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Published: Thursday, Feb. 3 2011 6:57 p.m. MST

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cjb
Bountiful, UT

We are not a PURE democracy. We are a constitutional republic, meaning that those who represent are constrained by the constitution.

However its worth noting that a republic is an indirect democracy.

Radical Moderate
West Jordan, UT

Type of government of the United States from the CIA World Factbook: Constitution-based federal republic; strong democratic tradition. Why all this sudden angst about democracy? I can understand why "socialism" might be considered a bad word, but I am stunned that "democracy" has now become one. I am thinking that we should be VERY careful from now on who we elect as our representatives to this Republic. I vote that we elect ones who don't think democracy is a bad word. I'm also thinking that we need to make some serious changes in our state representation. By the way, does this legislation carry the full descript of the government? FEDERAL Republic? If we are going to be accurate, let's be accurate.

IMHO
Logan, UT

For the love of Pete, our representatives should be able to pass the high school U.S. government course before interfering in our schools.

The U.S. is a Republic (with a great Constitution, yes, so we are a Constitutional Republic). We are also a democracy - the citizens vote. But we are not a direct democracy, where citizens vote on every law. We are a "representative democracy," where we vote in representatives. The terms "representative democracy" and "republic" are interchangeable.

The state legislature should absolutely NOT seek more control of public schools until they themselves understand their own jobs.

Laura Ann
Layton, UT

The schools are being buried in requirements. The teachers are spending time testing and testing. There is less time for teaching. The legislature needs to stop giving the teachers more to teach. Although I have no problem with making sure things are taught correctly, why do they need to pass a law about it? Also, consider the cost. They'll probably have to create something that needs to be printed and given thoughout the state. Every year they burn all of the testing material. What a waste of money. If a teacher wants to cheat, believe me, there are ways to do it even if they don't see the tests ahead of time. Also, if a teacher is not suppose to teach to the test, what are they suppose to teach about. The papers that must be signed each to to promise that the teachers won't cheat. Why don't they just have you raise your arm in front of witnesses and promise not to do it. I'm glad I'm retired. My friends at my previous school are going absolutely nuts! Go away legislature. Stop wasting teaching time.

Utah Dem
Ogden, UT

Once again the Utah Legislature, specifically Morley, needs to stop micromanaging education!

This bill is purely an attack on the Alpine School District's mission statement because they used the word Democracy in their statement.

Winglish
Lehi, UT

Cut the school budget, then add required curriculum. Fiscal hypocrisy or irresponsibility?

Lagomorph
Salt Lake City, UT

The proposed amendment reads, "Instruction in American history and government shall include the study of: forms of government, such as a democracy, monarchy, and oligarchy; and the United States' form of government, a republic."

I recommend amending the amendment to add theocracy, plutocracy, and corporatism to the list. The kids might as well learn about the forms of state government, too.

CHS 85
Sandy, UT

All because a bunch of parents in American Fork threw a tizzy fit over a word. Wow, what a waste of money and time. Is there anything important that the legislature needs to work on? Maybe we should cut a week or two out of their session.

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