SME, your supposed facts are twisted. Study after study after study after study
is now showing that money spent in the classroom has a direct correlation to
causal effect on achievement. Non-classroom expenditures have almost zero
effect on achievement. Guess which areas have the highest non-classroom
expenditures? Washington D.C., New York, California... I'd be more
than glad to get together to show you 387 pages of research I have on the topic.
It's in my hands right now :)More money in the classroom translates
to more achievement. Period.
If more money was the solution the students in states leading in spending per
pupil would do much better than those at the lower end. That is not the case.
Washington DC and California are among the leaders in spending per pupil.Their
students do NOT lead in acheivement.
Here is where we draw the line and democrats have to learn to deal with a
balanced budget of living within your means. Obama is not our governor and as a
president even more questionnaire. Following the lead of Obama is the path of
destruction by implosion. Imploding is the path to a nuclear explosion with some
nefarious radioactive fall out.These so called critical issues are
the problem and time to real in their disasters on the economy. Education in
Utah is over funded, not accountable, and too riddle with fraud and waste to
give them any more funds. Even cut a lot of funds to them.
@worfI'm sure your anecdotal finding are true across the board,
right?How do you know that the seven special education students
aren't severely handicapped and require one-on-one help? How do you
know that there isn't a behavioral unit at the school that needs a detention
teacher? I guess one secretary can enter all attendance
information, make all appointments, manage the funds, and keep the place open?
There's more to education than just having teachers in the
classroom. Have you run for your local school board to inject your vast
educational experiences into the running of a district, or is it just easier to
complain about it? I'm sure you can clean the place up and improve it.
Arizona,I would be proud being 49th in spending. Here are some examples
of wasted money I've seen in just one small high school:1. New
artificail football turf--fifteen million dollars.2. New computers through
out the school. No one could understand how to use them, so they got rid of
them.3. Students made to eat breakfast in their classroom and told to
throw it away if they're not hungry. The state pays for a large amount of
students eating while money and food goes to waste.4. District pays for
curriculum to be written and re-written annually. Expensive textbooks have
curriculum professionally written, but districts keep reinventing the wheel.5. Seven special aid teachers and assistants for seven students.6.
Purchasing 900 new math textbooks which were not used because the curriculum
directer set up a different agenda.7. In a school of less than 900
students, you have:* one principal-with a secretary* two
assistant principals* two counselors* two curriculum directers* two testing coordinators* one detention teacher* three
secretariesDistricts will use funding so it can be justified for the
next school year. This kind of waste is common in many schools.
Hey, American First, I see you hail from California so things are obviously
different there. Utah is a right-to-work state. There is no such thing as a
union in Utah. Here we do have the Utah Education Association, which some would
love to demonize, but really is fairly benign and powerless as far as state
appropriations and what happens in Utah schools. The associations in Utah
cannot strike like in other states. They can't hold the Legislature hostage
from a bargaining position. All the talk is just rhetoric around here. The
Legislature calls the shots and decisions are completely, 100% Republican made.
Democrats get to share an opinion.
the leader of democratic party - George Soros - wants young Americans to be
"re-programmed" into a socialist minded culture. Obama must agree
because George has made many personal visits to the Oval Office over the past
two years. That's right, George Soros - the socialist billionaire who kills
economies and creates government dependence. Maybe Barack will have George Stand
tonight as an honored guest.
@ america firstThe bigest "funneling of money" (as you
call it) PAC in the state is Parents for Choice (as long as it is not public
education). They spend three times as much in putting money into candidates
hands(exclusivly republican hands), as does the UEA (split about 60-40
democrat-republican). Let's tell the truth about who is stuffing money in
legislators pockets for their special intrests.
I'm a teacher in Arizona (and a very conservative Republican) and am currently
studying educational funding in the U.S. I always cringe because Arizona ranks
49th in spending per pupil. Guess which state is 50th? Utah.
GuitarGuy wrote my reply. He is exactly right about the anti-intellectualism in
our culture. It is somehow seen as bad is someone is eloquent and studious.
In my opinion, education should be the first priority of our nation.
We should be giving the same effort to improve our education system as was
given during Kennedy's race to the moon.In a global economy in which
the USA will compete in the service industry, education is the ONLY factor that
matters for our future prosperity. We must improve all aspects of our system by
hiring and retaining the best teachers. That alone won't solve the problem
however. We need to foster a change in our culture that values education
instead of mindless entertainment. Most people here know who won the Superbowl
last year but very few probably know who won the Nobel Prizes last year. We've
got our priorities backward!
Here are just two of the reasons why other industrialized nations are more
successful at educating their children than we are:1. Parents are
more involved with their children, particularly their education. Divorce rates
are lower, and fewer couples are dependant on two incomes. So more often than
here in the US, Mom and Dad are together, and one of them is home full-time.2. The notion of being educated is valued, as opposed to being a cause
for ridicule. Getting good grades here makes you a "nerd". Speaking
and writing correct English makes you a "grammar Nazi". Worst of all,
we worship at the feet of celebrities, musicians and athletes, many of whom did
not go to college (much less finish high school), and to whom we flock in droves
for minute-by-minute updates on their charmed lives in a mutant form of English
Why is it other industrialized countries can educate their children for a third
of the money we spend? Every time legislative leaders talk education, I cringe
at what it will cost this time. In the industrial nations, we rank 25th in
literacy and 1 with spending.It's not bad teachers---it's greedy
money spending legislators.
@American First:Is your comment for real?
Funeling money to their Union buddies in the Public teachers unions is Democrats
top priority, we all know it's about getting people in their pocket and vote
buying...nothing to do with educating our children. Smoke and Mirrors.