Same cougar trolls, same bla bla bla....Let's give it a week and see
what everyone is saying shall we? The class as it sits would be
great and we know Whit has a history of Coaching players up. Let's see what he
can do with the mutiple 3 and 4 star kids that have signed over the past 2 years
compared to all the 2 star guys who are in the NFL from previous years. I do think that the Bingham High class BYU signed looks pretty good, but
it is too bad they didn't get the best one. He wanted to play for real football
team in a real conference such as Utah, USC and Stanford, and decided to be a
Ute! I would think that Utah going head to head against top
programs and winning some battles this year speaks volumes in the PAC-12 impact.
You will learn the names Mcgill, Langi, Rowe, Bryant, Norris,
Asisata, White, Oliver, Fakahafua, Still and company for the next several years.
Utes have lost a lot of 'things' since last November. The list is quite long and
this is the third story this year about losing recruits.Looks like a
trend, a continuing one!
@BBallJunkieScout currently has utah's recruiting class ranked 51st
and BYU's ranked 57th. Doesn't seem like either is having a banner year. They
did have utahs ranked higher before "commits" began to bail left and
right. It would appear that fact has hurt this supposedly superior pac10 recruit
filled class. LOL
@uteology1944 was alot longer ago than 1984 LOLKeep
living in the past brother. LOL
Brown chose poorly...big dealI like our leadership and team. I see
the U doing some special things over the next few years!Go Utes!!!
@EFFE"Oregon State- OSU is not a bad team, but there is no way BYU
gets downed by the beavers."That's what you said about 4-8 Utah
State, 7-6 FSU, and 7-5 Arizona over the last three years. BYU's
won 2 games vs. final ranked teams in over 12 years. So you better hope that
the 4 BCS teams you play are bad. Otherwise, look for the following trend to
continue: 9 beat downs in three years.@RockActually in
basketball is even worse then in football in the postseason:Utah vs
BYUFinal Fours: 4 vs 0Tournament Record: 35-30 vs 11-28Championship Seasons: 1944 vs 0Tournament Appearances: 27 vs 25
Hey ute fans, your energy about all these so called four star guys has you
ranked high 40's by scout, BYU with what you keep bagging on is just behind.
Don't get to pumped. You won't win more than 6 games then you will want Norm and
Kyle's head on a platter.
2010 Brian Blechen 3-stars ... 2011 All AmericanSo its not about the
stars, its more about the coaches ability to spot talent and develop them. Just
go see who's developing more NLF players.Hint, it's not the
university that had the top 25 class last year or has the top mid-major average
class rankings over the last 10 years.1. BYU 46.672. Utah
68.223. TCU 70.784. Boise 72.11
@pebblesWould you mind repeating that in english?
First the philanderer bails and now this. LOLIs there really such a
thing as a utah "commit"?Funny thing about this one is
this kid bailed after it was announced the great qb maker norm chow was coming
on board. I thought that the top qb's were supposed to flock to this guy not run
from him?Interesting.Seems like all these guys wedgie
has been bragging about for the last several weeks are not really considering
utah afterall. But I guess if utah sends them a letter they can claim they are
recruiting them against the big boys.LOL
Cali Coug "All Yewet Fans: If the Y is so awful, their coaching so bad,
their school nothing more than a high school...why do they keep kicking you
trash in all sports? We welcome you all to the beat down in Provo...come see how
Champions play."You mean kicking Utah's trash by losing to them
in football this year? Utah having 20 game lead head to head and being picked to
go to the PAC while your team wasn't. Or in B-Ball where Utah has a NCAA
championship and another finals appearance and 5 or so final four appearances
(none for BYU). Awh, the delusions of our little brothers down south; too bad
they really don't have anything but their delusions; facts would be nice but
would be too much to ask for from such as them. Maybe we can chip in and get
them the help they need (you'll have to come up to the U though as your school
doesnt have a med school/hospital).
The difference is at BYU, though, that there is QB depth. If Heaps
got hurt, James Lark and Jason Munns are both more than capable QBs. Both were 4
star, pro-style QBs out of high school and would be great as starters even if
Heaps weren't in the picture. So, I'm not terribly worried about the
QB picture at the Y.Not to mention there is a pretty good option QB
in Riley Nelson if worst comes to worst.
All Yewet Fans: If the Y is so awful, their coaching so bad, their school
nothing more than a high school...why do they keep kicking you trash in all
sports?We welcome you all to the beat down in Provo...come see how
Brian Blechen was the #14 th ranked dual threat QB in the nation according to
Rivals. Last year he play DB and looks good as a Linebacker next year. Griff
Robles is a good get and is of the same mold.Both are Sophomores. Remember Paul
Kruger was recruited as a QB. I think Chow has a good eye for the qb
situation and will spot the best of the bunch. Maybe the blue bloods can cool
off a bit when the understand that even Heaps could take a fall injury. So who
is their back up qb to lead them over the tough teams of N.M State, Idaho, and
Louisiana Tech ?Texas, CF, and Utah could put Heaps in the disabled
column, All it takes is one good hit to knock the S out of him and leave him in
There's nothing like Cougar fans calling other fans dillusional and
rationalizing. Priceless. This is what I call rationalizing: Going 7-6, but
saying you played well in your last 7 games, like the first half of the season
never existed; Utah won 2 BCS games in the past 7 years and we haven't been to
any, but we did win a NC 25 freakin years ago; BYU pulled Harvey Langi's
schollie, as well as all of the other kids who said "NO" to BYU, they
didn't tell us no; It doesn't matter that we very very rarely beat a top 25
team or one from a BCS conference, because we still win 10 games a year(even
though most of the wins are against nobodys), And the list goes on and on.
Bottom line is that Utah's recruiting has steadily improved over the past
3-4 years, and this year will be its best yet. However, they do need to be
successful in the next couple of years in the Pac if they want the recruiting to
get even better. Go Utes
Is it possible to be both a Coug and Ute fan? I'm glad when both teams win.
Makes the state look pretty good. When they play each other, I wear blue.
Recruiting is not a zero sum game.
Papa Smurf UTEYou are right, BYU does have 4 tough games next season
and one semi tough game. But your predictions for an 0-5 start is delusional.
At worst, BYU will go 3-2 against these teams. BYU 2011
Schedule @ Ole Miss- Very winnable game. Ole Miss is an SEC
opponent, but sits near the bottom of the conference. They are very
inconsistent. @Texas- Will be the toughest game of the season.
Especially being a home game for Texas. But they are in a similar position as
BYU, coming off a down season. This game will be competitive. Vs.
Utah- After barely escaping with a win @RES, against an "All-Freshman"
team. How can Utah be predicting a win? With no QB, a freshman RB, and no
receivers. @ UCF- A good team that took down Georgia in a bowl
game. But I do not see them winning over BYU.. @ Oregon State- OSU
is not a bad team, but there is no way BYU gets downed by the beavers.
On another note, I hope they have that ugly Mtn West logo off the turf with the
new Pac 12 logo by the Red White game in april, that should look pretty sweet.
What is ybU going to paint on their turf? "Independence"? Or, "We
have our own tv facility with HD"? We'll see I guess. You win
some recruits you lose some, as long as we have Coach Whit, we'll be fine.
I'm more upset about losing BJ Kelley.And if you all think it is
about the star rating, then you aren't thinking like a scout. The Utes have
amazing scouts who find the diamonds in the rough. 3 star recruits that play
better than their top ranked counter-parts. And getting players out of JCs is
not too bad. Anyone heard of Cam Newton?
TJ, you are a moron. The ZOOBIES have 4 tough games, and 1 semi tough game. They
will lose the 4 tough games, and maybe come out on top of UCF. The rest of their
games are against the The Little Sisters of the Poor. They should win those 7.
To me that adds up to 8 possible wins. That is a far cry from the 10 you are
predicting. Also, 8 wins against crap teams at the end of the season does not
get you ranked anywhere near the top 20 of the final BCS rankings. Your team
will be 0-4 before you know it, with no conf championship to hope for, no all
conf awards for your players to win, and a possible bowl game vs Western Mich
School of the Blind in Maine. Have funwith that. Our 8 wins can still get us in
the Holiday Bowl against a great team. I like our future better.
hedgehog:with the number of postings you are , bored, unemployed or have
nothing else in life. I hope you find something meaningful in life besides
posting the continuous dribble that you spew daily.
Claws, You bring up a legitimate point. You forgot
Tyler Shreve. He was signed for the 2010 class, then had a bit of trouble with
his baseball coach, but did what Kyle asked him to do and was able to start
school in January.He is a big kid, about 6'4, with a big arm
(drafted by Blue Jays in the 10th round but didnt' sign). Pretty skinny, about
200 lbs coming out of highschool, but I don't know what he is at now, hopefully
put some beef on. As it stand now, only Robles, Shreve (and I think
a walk on QB) will be the QBs in spring which I think is good because it will
give them reps so if Wynn can't go, someone will be as prepped as possible.I think Shreve is probably the reason why the Utes aren't beating the
bushes for a QB in this class, but certainly are going after Eubank.
worf, the only history I see repeating itself is Utah continuing to beat BYU
like circus monkeys.
Lets compare recruiting classes (Rivals): Byu has 1 recruit with multiple
BCS offers, Utah has 10. Utah has recieved visits from 26 kids (7 four-star
recruits), BYU has had 2 kids take official visits. Hopefully Michael
Eubank commits in place of Brown, because Eubank is an absolute beast.Hey
cougs, Scoreboard!Love Utah, and Utah State
I do agree with the earlier poster that way too many grown men are freaking out
about 17 to 18 year old kids. Recruiting speculations are fun but to take shots
about whose recruits are better is like saying my dog can beat up your dog.That being said, I'm really not saying this to take shots but I really
would be worried about the QB situation at Utah. Terrance Cain is graduating,
Jordan Wynn is hurt until Fall camp. Who is left at QB until then? Some fans
talk about this kid and that kid, but with this Brown kid leaving there is not
one officially committed QB for this year's recruiting class for Utah. I guess
that leaves Griff Robles as the springtime Utah QB and then Wynn can play in the
Fall, but will they be ready to compete against the PAC when the season starts?
And I'm really genuinely asking I'm not trying to start a fight. It looks like
Robles and Wynn can both play but if either of those guys gets hurt, there is
literally no one left. They might end up being fine, but I would be worried.
This is crazy. To BYU fans, Utah will have a strong class this year. Kids
decommitt all the time for a myriad of reasons. To Utah fans, BYU will have a
strong class this year as well with fewer committs because they have a large,
very talented class of missionaries coming back. Including Bills who looked very
good before he left. What I would be worried about if I were a Utah fan is that
Utah is ranked about where they were last year and this year they have the PAC12
Conference affiliation to help with recruiting. Last year BYU, as a MWC member
had a top 25 class. Utah has never had a top 25 class. Either in Rivals or
Scout. That said, coach Whitt seems to have a knack for getting kids who can be
developed into great college players and good NFL players. Both teams will just
get better. I still can't believe all the smack over a qb who decided to go to
UW and not Utah.
I think that the utes football team will follow in the footsteps of the bball
team and bolt for any other team. The "Runnin' utes will be running for
other schools. Once they get into the pac 12 and start comparing schools they
will bolt.Enjoy the bottom of the pac and your half filled RES after
the first year. You ute fans just crack me up with your downgrading of BYU. You
were rated how high? and then finish with a mighty win against the Y. You brag
so much about that win and it was by one point against a bunch of freshmen. Boy,
I can't wait until Football season. You utes are in for an awakening and stores
will sell out of crying towels."But we're in the pac 12 now,
why are we fading into nothingness?" Good luck with staying relevant in the
pac 12 or for that matter, college football.
First to all of the ones claiming utah is hurting. I thought snorting anything
was against Y rules?As far as I have seen on all of the recruiting pages
the U has the advantage. That does not mean a lot though because the U has been
out shown by many of their past bowl competetion at recruiting. What really
matters is how they do on the field. I know a player by the name of Weddle that
no one fought the utes over and look what he is still doing. We could talk about
all of the pro players that Utah has playing in the NFL that were not recruited
big time. We could say just the inverse about how many recruited heavily did
nothing?What is the deal with Bingham and the Y? Has BYU-SL moved
campuses?Hey BYU fans if it doesn't work out with CHow I will take Anie
also. I think your Kitty Club makes some stupid decisions. I though it was
stupid when you ran off CHow and took CrowtoWn. I hope DoMain works out DuePay
won't help. If you can I would get Determan he does know his stuff.
"Once again, the utes are chowing down on left over players nobody else
wanted"worf,hmmm, typical tds troll response. I know you
have the time, so take a look at the offers the kids we have verbals to. Now,(
because you have the time) take a look at the offers the tds verbals have.Let me know your thoughts....LOL!
Nevada, FSU, USU, AF, TCU, UtahYep, the picture is crystal clear.
TheHailstorm | 1:20 p.m. Jan. 25, 2011 South Weber, UT Again, it's
just too early ... wait until the ink dries. ===Hailstorm is
right. No reason to worry until it's done.
TCU, Boise State, Notre Dame.--We get the picture!
Azute,I agree, the tds trolls are out in force today. probably 80%
of the comments. I wondered Y wouldn't these trolls want to comment
on their own program?... so I looked at the BYU page. As you could guess; no
articles on BYU football recruiting.....again.You see, Bronco and
crew have already punted on this years class. What you see ( not much) is what
you get.Bronbco might want to see if there are any other Bingham
High kids interested...LOL!
Why not wait until Feb.2 before the program bashing ? I think the Utes do have a
foot up on coaching and finding the better athlete and then develops them into
quality players. Again, it's just too early ... wait until the ink
2 of 3, 6 of 9 and a BCS-Conference Invite are enough to make any and every
provo-fan insecure....The trolls are out in full force....UTAH will be just fine
for crying out loud....Chow WILL have an impact and Whit WILL close, as he
ALWAYS does....Just think, we could be stuck with the following to look forward
to: UCF, Utah State, San Jose State, Idaho State, Louisiana Tech, Idaho, New
Mexico State and Hawaii, with a off-week before LT and UH....AND if Ole Miss and
UT are anything like they were last year, well, you get the picture........
HedgeI just saw that tweet. It looks like now he's going to make his
announcement on or before signing day.With whit going there this
week, I really like our chances of landing him.National signing day
is going to be great.
Why would Norm Chow be a draw to LA area kids? He's just been canned by a
second major SoCal program. Rick Neuheisel was desparate to save his job and
what was his best answer? Get rid of Norm Chow. You don't think both UCLA and
USC will use that against utah? Believe me, the legend of Norm Chow is NOT
shining brightly in the LA area....
pocyute,(As if last night) Raven tweeted that he had not made a
decision and the reports of him giving a verbal to Texas AM are (at least at
this point) false.
Being a coach would be tough having your livelihood connected to teenagers.Utah's class is already very good, and I expect it to be great by the
time it is over. The Utes currently have only lost 1 commit,
Brown.Raven was never a commit, Henderson has not decommitted.
Infact his rivals recruiting profile has him upgraded to a solid verbal, which
also means his good friend and 4 star WR Junior Pomee is coming as well.Hopefully Whit and Co bring in Raven, Eubank, Denham, Latu and Lucien
and make it the highest rated class ever.It's a good time to be a
C'mon guys... The Utes will be just fine."Fine" standing
for: F.rantically I.n N.eed at E.very position.
I've heard Henderson is also out. By the way, players don't hold out until the
last minute to choose Utah. At least not yet.Next week will reveal
all.At least 6 PAC schools now ranked ahead of Utah in 2011
recruiting.Utah plummeting 10 spots already. Maybe in a free fall.
According to the trib Utah just lost another recruit to BYU. Olmua is coming to
Provo! Turns down an offer from Utah.
Man... too many grown men (allegedly) care way too much about 17 and 18 year old
kids... and that goes for Ute and Coug fans.All the recruiting talk
is just too over the top. Can Whit coach? Yep. Will he be competitive with the
kids he recruits. Yep. He's got a track record of doing that.The
talent pool has been increasing and will continue to increase (see the trend of
more Ute players going to the NFL).
"The wheels on the bus, are falling off, falling off, falling off, the
wheels on the bus are falling off"...poor whittle utezies, our wee losing
our recrutizies? Awe, dang...
Ute_4_lifeThe Closer is non-other than Coach Whit himself. With all
the talk of Raven going to A&M, I haven't heard that Whit's in home visit is
cancelled. Until then, I'm not counting him out.
Once again, the utes are chowing down on left over players nobody else wanted.
This time next year, ute fans will once again make excuses for why they loss big
games and hedgehog will than head towards hibernation to hide his shame. Oh!
How history repeats itself.
Wow!! All the haters are out in full force.... hey, where's all the comments
about how obsessed we are with your program. Brown leaving is not a
huge shock. UW only has two qbs on their roster... why not go.try to be the next
Locker vs not play for (best case scenario) 2 years. I wouldn't be shocked if
Wynn doesn't have the starting job by next fall by the time Shreve, Griff, and
possibly Eubank all have their shots to play win the first team.Raven I think is gone, lots of players decommit, but not to many don't learn
their lasson and do it again. Latu gave an updated list today with his top three
and we're not on it, so forget about that one.Now the good news.
Denham gave a highly complimentary interview that sounds as close to a commit as
you can give without saying yes. Pomee sound about the same and where he goes
Henderson will also go. Add in the fact that Chow was Ucla's best recruiter? I
wouldn't be suprised to see their tank empty and us benefit from it.
@cougar4ever2We now have Chow to go after LA erea kids for PAC-12
play. So don't worry about us, we'll be fine.I find it interesting
that now BYU has DuPaix and Doman, rumors are they plan to make Skyline HS their
2nd feeder school after Bingham HS.
I love the coog comments on here spelling out the doom of Utah's program.Yeah we have had some decommits but we are also in the game with a lot
more highly recruited kids - it will all work out in the end. When signing day
finally comes, I'm sure this will be one of the higher ranked classes the Utes
have had. It will only get better from there. To say otherwise is simply
foolish. Look at the number of players Utah is putting into the NFL every
year.... it's consistantly gone up every year with Kyle.Oh and to
the coog fan that wants to say how much better byu finished their season
compared to the Utes... look at who they were playing. The y finished with the
dogs of the MWC. Don't forget you lost to Utah State!!! Heaps is a good QB but
you also have Bronco who doesn't believe in making adjustments or preparing his
team differently for other opponents.We will see in a week or so who
ends up with a better class but then we will go on to compete in the PAC 12!!!
jealousy is ugly.
Seems that Utah has lost its edge on some recruits now that they're in the
PAC12, why should someone commit to Utah when they can probably be gotten at
most other PAC12 schools that have the in-place reputation? Good luck to Utah,
it's going to be a tough road for you.
HedgehogActually Utah only had four 4 star commitments from 2010
according to rivals,John CullenTerrell ReeseKenneth
Scott V.J. FehokoAnd Utah has five 4 star recruits according
to scout. Problem is, 5 of the 5 are JC transfers. BYU's recruiting
class for 2010:One 5 starfour 4 starsNot one of them were a JC
Expect Chow to have sway?Why?Have you Utes been to Husky
Stadium, the Coliseum, Oregon, Stanford, or Arizona State?UCLA plays their
games in the Rose Bowl. U can't compete with that.U has
the 2nd smallest stadium in the pac-12. Not impressive.U
better just hope that once you have a commit, that they don't actually take
visits to your Pac-12 brothers, once they compare.....oh well.These
18 year old's could not care less about Chow's legacy, that's 2 generations ago
to these kids.All this nonsense of being in the pac-12 will help
your recruiting? These kids are bailing on Utah, once they compare
their Mid-Major facilities and fanbase to Genuine Big-Time programs.Looks like U-Pretenders are being exposed.The hype is now running
head-on into the wall of reality, known as the World of Washington State.Get used to it Utah, put your feet up, drink a cool one and relax, it is
what it is. 5 and 6 wins is will have to do.Get the promotional
department ready to ramp up the old "Buy a Taco get a free Ticket"
Utah has now had three players decommit and move on. The logic is clear, if you
can play in the PAC 10, why play at Utah? If you think utah had an inferiority
complex in the MWC just wait. I also think Utah now becomes the
"Mormon" school of the PAC 10. Utah fans have worked so hard over the
years to develop that as a negative that it's going come back and haunt them.
These decommits are a major blow the program.
OnlyInUtah,just a reminder; It was last year at this time the tds
was crowing "look at all the Ute decommits". Then came signing day the
the only thing to be heard from the tds was crickets.Y, you ask?Let's look at what happend on or after signing day last year - shall
we:Po'u Palelei 4 starReggie Dunn 4 star Mo Lee
4 star Dexter Ransom 4 starV.J. Fehoko 4 starJohn Cullen
4 starLucky RadleyTevita Finau 4 star
Look this Brown kid left for the same reason Langi joined....a chance to start.
Although, I am unsure what Brown saw in the pipeline at Utah that made him think
he couldn't get a serious look right of the bat.
I'm a Utah fan and they will not win more than 6 games next year. Kyle really
blew it with Wynn. He weighted 155 lbs in High school and has put on 40 lbs to
bulk up. His body is not built to play D-1 Football. He can't run, He can't pass
out of the pocket and when the pocket collapses he curls up like a little girl
and waits for the whistle. His arm is not strong enough to hold up over the
entire season. The mistake made by Whit is that he was just to small and
delicate to hold up to the rigors of D-1 football.Little known fact. Wynn
lost the team and the receivers months ago.One more question. Why
run the option or pistol or wildcat when your QB has zero running ability or
size or speed to run those plays.
The Chow effect starts.....
Recruits are bailing... sounds like a downturn in the program. Apparently there
are better opportunities for these blue chip players. What happened to all the
talk about how an invite to the PAC-12 would help with recruiting?
I expect Utah recruiting to improve by virtue of being in the PAC and they seem
to be competing with other PAC teams. BYU's recruiting is not as
good as it needs to be. However, based on the the number of NFL
players placed over the last few years by both schools, I think it is fair to
suggest that BYU has done reasonably well with less talent. BYU
needs the right recruits at key positions to compete. If they don't get those
key positions they tend to falter.Utah tends to have more NFL
players.BYU will be okay with a couple of the right recruits. They
are still hurting at TE and WR. DBs are always a problem. Chow is
probably an improvement at OC if you give him enough talent. Utah is
losing about as many great players as they are recruiting (so far). The team
should be about as good as last years but with a tougher schedule. BYU's defense should be better. The offense should improve if they have people
who can get open and catch the ball. The schedule strength is about the same.
We can add paranoid to the list including jealous, obsessed and insecure when
describing hedgie and coachcarter etc. Your comments are the cause of much
laughter for serious fans of both schools. Especially the ones that
"guarantee" wins and losses. Here is a PREDICTION ladies.2011
footballBYU 10 or more wins top 20 ranking in final BCS pollUtah 8
or fewer wins top 50 ranking in final BCS poll.
Dude why do you care what Ute fans say about Heaps? He isnt that great and your
season was mediocre at best. To bad Brown decided to go but oh well they will
figure it out.
coachcarter,Are you really trying to say that Heaps is not a great
QB. Any sane Ute would take Heaps over Wynn in a heart beat.Also,
you can spout off win-loss records all you want but we all know that BYU
finished out the season on a much higher note than Utah.
Like I've said, COMPETING for big time recruits doesn't give you big time
credibility, but SIGNING big time recruits would be a step in the right
cougar4ever2,you really have no room to talk. remember last spring
when Heisman Heaps was the Savior of BYU football?Utah 10-3, BYU
cougar4ever2,Your right, I guess we shouldn't speculate about ACTUAL
4 star recruits the Utes are meeting with THIS WEEK. It's probably
better to jump into "tds delusion" in believing that bronco only needs
a couple of bingham high school kids every year to go 10-2.The TDS
recruiting class is a trainwreck with no hope in sight.
This hurts the Utes a little bit. Other recruits who are sitting on the fence
may be swayed by this. The Utes will need these guys to be competitive in the
PAC. It will be interesting to see how it all pans out next week.
I love how hedgehog rationalizes losing Brown by saying the Utes will get
someone better....Cam Newton comparison is priceless. Good luck with that!The
Utes are going to NEED Cam Newton, not a comparison to, next year if they are
going to have any hopes of winning any games. Keep on rationalizing Hedge. I
will look forward to the excuses next year when your team is nursing a losing
record with Jordan Wynn still wondering which way is up. Norm Chow isn't the
savior of your team anymore than he was for UCLA.....rearranging deck chairs on
the Titanic is what your team is now doing.
pocyUte2,Out of curiosity, who are you referring to as "The
Closer"? Scalley? If so, let's hope he pulls it off!
hedge,don't count Raven out yet. The Closer still has his home
visit down there later this week.
Tom Cella ( Rivals) believes that Denham, Pomee and Latu are all but shoe in's
for the Ute class. ( all 4 star players)Unfortunetly Floyd Raven has
just given a solid verbal to Texas A&M.... that hurts. Utah really needs to
find that shut down CB.I'm also hearing that Mike Eubanks is still
in play. If the Utes can land Eubanks it would be an upgrade over Brown.Eubanks is 6.5 / 225/ 4.7. ( 4 star) Often compaired to Cam