Utah loses Brown to UW


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  • UteMan South Jordan, UT
    Jan. 26, 2011 6:16 p.m.

    Same cougar trolls, same bla bla bla....

    Let's give it a week and see what everyone is saying shall we?

    The class as it sits would be great and we know Whit has a history of Coaching players up. Let's see what he can do with the mutiple 3 and 4 star kids that have signed over the past 2 years compared to all the 2 star guys who are in the NFL from previous years.

    I do think that the Bingham High class BYU signed looks pretty good, but it is too bad they didn't get the best one. He wanted to play for real football team in a real conference such as Utah, USC and Stanford, and decided to be a Ute!

    I would think that Utah going head to head against top programs and winning some battles this year speaks volumes in the PAC-12 impact.

    You will learn the names Mcgill, Langi, Rowe, Bryant, Norris, Asisata, White, Oliver, Fakahafua, Still and company for the next several years.

  • sammyg Springville, UT
    Jan. 26, 2011 5:57 p.m.

    Utes have lost a lot of 'things' since last November. The list is quite long and this is the third story this year about losing recruits.

    Looks like a trend, a continuing one!

  • Duckhunter American Fork, UT
    Jan. 26, 2011 1:57 p.m.


    Scout currently has utah's recruiting class ranked 51st and BYU's ranked 57th. Doesn't seem like either is having a banner year. They did have utahs ranked higher before "commits" began to bail left and right. It would appear that fact has hurt this supposedly superior pac10 recruit filled class. LOL

  • Duckhunter American Fork, UT
    Jan. 26, 2011 8:47 a.m.


    1944 was alot longer ago than 1984 LOL

    Keep living in the past brother. LOL

  • Boom Irving, TX
    Jan. 26, 2011 12:25 a.m.

    Brown chose poorly...big deal

    I like our leadership and team. I see the U doing some special things over the next few years!

    Go Utes!!!

  • Uteology Fort Worth, Texas
    Jan. 25, 2011 9:57 p.m.

    "Oregon State- OSU is not a bad team, but there is no way BYU gets downed by the beavers."

    That's what you said about 4-8 Utah State, 7-6 FSU, and 7-5 Arizona over the last three years.

    BYU's won 2 games vs. final ranked teams in over 12 years. So you better hope that the 4 BCS teams you play are bad. Otherwise, look for the following trend to continue: 9 beat downs in three years.


    Actually in basketball is even worse then in football in the postseason:

    Utah vs BYU

    Final Fours: 4 vs 0
    Tournament Record: 35-30 vs 11-28
    Championship Seasons: 1944 vs 0
    Tournament Appearances: 27 vs 25

  • bballjunkie Cedar Hills, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 9:38 p.m.

    Hey ute fans, your energy about all these so called four star guys has you ranked high 40's by scout, BYU with what you keep bagging on is just behind. Don't get to pumped. You won't win more than 6 games then you will want Norm and Kyle's head on a platter.

  • Uteology Fort Worth, Texas
    Jan. 25, 2011 9:17 p.m.

    2010 Brian Blechen 3-stars ... 2011 All American

    So its not about the stars, its more about the coaches ability to spot talent and develop them. Just go see who's developing more NLF players.

    Hint, it's not the university that had the top 25 class last year or has the top mid-major average class rankings over the last 10 years.

    1. BYU 46.67
    2. Utah 68.22
    3. TCU 70.78
    4. Boise 72.11

  • Duckhunter American Fork, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 8:05 p.m.


    Would you mind repeating that in english?

  • Duckhunter American Fork, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 7:31 p.m.

    First the philanderer bails and now this. LOL

    Is there really such a thing as a utah "commit"?

    Funny thing about this one is this kid bailed after it was announced the great qb maker norm chow was coming on board. I thought that the top qb's were supposed to flock to this guy not run from him?


    Seems like all these guys wedgie has been bragging about for the last several weeks are not really considering utah afterall. But I guess if utah sends them a letter they can claim they are recruiting them against the big boys.


  • Rock Of The Marne Phoenix, AZ
    Jan. 25, 2011 7:30 p.m.

    Cali Coug "All Yewet Fans: If the Y is so awful, their coaching so bad, their school nothing more than a high school...why do they keep kicking you trash in all sports? We welcome you all to the beat down in Provo...come see how Champions play."

    You mean kicking Utah's trash by losing to them in football this year? Utah having 20 game lead head to head and being picked to go to the PAC while your team wasn't. Or in B-Ball where Utah has a NCAA championship and another finals appearance and 5 or so final four appearances (none for BYU). Awh, the delusions of our little brothers down south; too bad they really don't have anything but their delusions; facts would be nice but would be too much to ask for from such as them. Maybe we can chip in and get them the help they need (you'll have to come up to the U though as your school doesnt have a med school/hospital).

  • Cougar Claws Lindon, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 6:55 p.m.

    The difference is at BYU, though, that there is QB depth.

    If Heaps got hurt, James Lark and Jason Munns are both more than capable QBs. Both were 4 star, pro-style QBs out of high school and would be great as starters even if Heaps weren't in the picture.

    So, I'm not terribly worried about the QB picture at the Y.

    Not to mention there is a pretty good option QB in Riley Nelson if worst comes to worst.

  • Cali Coug Visalia, CA
    Jan. 25, 2011 6:19 p.m.

    All Yewet Fans: If the Y is so awful, their coaching so bad, their school nothing more than a high school...why do they keep kicking you trash in all sports?

    We welcome you all to the beat down in Provo...come see how Champions play.

  • TheHailstorm South Weber, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 6:15 p.m.

    Brian Blechen was the #14 th ranked dual threat QB in the nation according to Rivals. Last year he play DB and looks good as a Linebacker next year. Griff Robles is a good get and is of the same mold.Both are Sophomores. Remember Paul Kruger was recruited as a QB.
    I think Chow has a good eye for the qb situation and will spot the best of the bunch. Maybe the blue bloods can cool off a bit when the understand that even Heaps could take a fall injury. So who is their back up qb to lead them over the tough teams of N.M State, Idaho, and Louisiana Tech ?
    Texas, CF, and Utah could put Heaps in the disabled column, All it takes is one good hit to knock the S out of him and leave him in a Heap.

  • Pac10_Utes Magna, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 6:12 p.m.

    There's nothing like Cougar fans calling other fans dillusional and rationalizing. Priceless. This is what I call rationalizing: Going 7-6, but saying you played well in your last 7 games, like the first half of the season never existed; Utah won 2 BCS games in the past 7 years and we haven't been to any, but we did win a NC 25 freakin years ago; BYU pulled Harvey Langi's schollie, as well as all of the other kids who said "NO" to BYU, they didn't tell us no; It doesn't matter that we very very rarely beat a top 25 team or one from a BCS conference, because we still win 10 games a year(even though most of the wins are against nobodys), And the list goes on and on.
    Bottom line is that Utah's recruiting has steadily improved over the past 3-4 years, and this year will be its best yet. However, they do need to be successful in the next couple of years in the Pac if they want the recruiting to get even better. Go Utes

  • cactusflats American Fork, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 4:55 p.m.

    Is it possible to be both a Coug and Ute fan? I'm glad when both teams win. Makes the state look pretty good. When they play each other, I wear blue. Recruiting is not a zero sum game.

  • --JEFFE-- Cedar City, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 4:52 p.m.

    Papa Smurf UTE

    You are right, BYU does have 4 tough games next season and one semi tough game. But your predictions for an 0-5 start is delusional.

    At worst, BYU will go 3-2 against these teams.

    BYU 2011 Schedule

    @ Ole Miss- Very winnable game. Ole Miss is an SEC opponent, but sits near the bottom of the conference. They are very inconsistent.

    @Texas- Will be the toughest game of the season. Especially being a home game for Texas. But they are in a similar position as BYU, coming off a down season. This game will be competitive.

    Vs. Utah- After barely escaping with a win @RES, against an "All-Freshman" team. How can Utah be predicting a win? With no QB, a freshman RB, and no receivers.

    @ UCF- A good team that took down Georgia in a bowl game. But I do not see them winning over BYU..

    @ Oregon State- OSU is not a bad team, but there is no way BYU gets downed by the beavers.

  • Wallbanger Spanish Fork, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 4:45 p.m.

    On another note, I hope they have that ugly Mtn West logo off the turf with the new Pac 12 logo by the Red White game in april, that should look pretty sweet. What is ybU going to paint on their turf? "Independence"? Or, "We have our own tv facility with HD"? We'll see I guess.

    You win some recruits you lose some, as long as we have Coach Whit, we'll be fine.

  • wwookie Payson, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 3:46 p.m.

    I'm more upset about losing BJ Kelley.

    And if you all think it is about the star rating, then you aren't thinking like a scout. The Utes have amazing scouts who find the diamonds in the rough. 3 star recruits that play better than their top ranked counter-parts. And getting players out of JCs is not too bad. Anyone heard of Cam Newton?

  • Papa Smurf UTE Herriman, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 3:38 p.m.

    TJ, you are a moron. The ZOOBIES have 4 tough games, and 1 semi tough game. They will lose the 4 tough games, and maybe come out on top of UCF. The rest of their games are against the The Little Sisters of the Poor. They should win those 7. To me that adds up to 8 possible wins. That is a far cry from the 10 you are predicting. Also, 8 wins against crap teams at the end of the season does not get you ranked anywhere near the top 20 of the final BCS rankings. Your team will be 0-4 before you know it, with no conf championship to hope for, no all conf awards for your players to win, and a possible bowl game vs Western Mich School of the Blind in Maine. Have funwith that. Our 8 wins can still get us in the Holiday Bowl against a great team. I like our future better.

  • ute alumni Salt Lake, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 3:36 p.m.

    with the number of postings you are , bored, unemployed or have nothing else in life. I hope you find something meaningful in life besides posting the continuous dribble that you spew daily.

  • pocyUte2 Pocatello, Id
    Jan. 25, 2011 3:35 p.m.


    You bring up a legitimate point.

    You forgot Tyler Shreve. He was signed for the 2010 class, then had a bit of trouble with his baseball coach, but did what Kyle asked him to do and was able to start school in January.

    He is a big kid, about 6'4, with a big arm (drafted by Blue Jays in the 10th round but didnt' sign). Pretty skinny, about 200 lbs coming out of highschool, but I don't know what he is at now, hopefully put some beef on.

    As it stand now, only Robles, Shreve (and I think a walk on QB) will be the QBs in spring which I think is good because it will give them reps so if Wynn can't go, someone will be as prepped as possible.

    I think Shreve is probably the reason why the Utes aren't beating the bushes for a QB in this class, but certainly are going after Eubank.

  • pocyUte2 Pocatello, Id
    Jan. 25, 2011 3:17 p.m.

    worf, the only history I see repeating itself is Utah continuing to beat BYU like circus monkeys.

  • Kankles Miami, Florida
    Jan. 25, 2011 3:08 p.m.

    Lets compare recruiting classes (Rivals):
    Byu has 1 recruit with multiple BCS offers, Utah has 10. Utah has recieved visits from 26 kids (7 four-star recruits), BYU has had 2 kids take official visits.
    Hopefully Michael Eubank commits in place of Brown, because Eubank is an absolute beast.
    Hey cougs,
    Love Utah, and Utah State

  • Cougar Claws Lindon, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 3:01 p.m.

    I do agree with the earlier poster that way too many grown men are freaking out about 17 to 18 year old kids. Recruiting speculations are fun but to take shots about whose recruits are better is like saying my dog can beat up your dog.

    That being said, I'm really not saying this to take shots but I really would be worried about the QB situation at Utah. Terrance Cain is graduating, Jordan Wynn is hurt until Fall camp. Who is left at QB until then? Some fans talk about this kid and that kid, but with this Brown kid leaving there is not one officially committed QB for this year's recruiting class for Utah. I guess that leaves Griff Robles as the springtime Utah QB and then Wynn can play in the Fall, but will they be ready to compete against the PAC when the season starts? And I'm really genuinely asking I'm not trying to start a fight. It looks like Robles and Wynn can both play but if either of those guys gets hurt, there is literally no one left. They might end up being fine, but I would be worried.

  • Cougars1 Bluffdale, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 2:55 p.m.

    This is crazy. To BYU fans, Utah will have a strong class this year. Kids decommitt all the time for a myriad of reasons. To Utah fans, BYU will have a strong class this year as well with fewer committs because they have a large, very talented class of missionaries coming back. Including Bills who looked very good before he left. What I would be worried about if I were a Utah fan is that Utah is ranked about where they were last year and this year they have the PAC12 Conference affiliation to help with recruiting. Last year BYU, as a MWC member had a top 25 class. Utah has never had a top 25 class. Either in Rivals or Scout. That said, coach Whitt seems to have a knack for getting kids who can be developed into great college players and good NFL players. Both teams will just get better. I still can't believe all the smack over a qb who decided to go to UW and not Utah.

  • Eddie Syracuse, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 2:13 p.m.

    I think that the utes football team will follow in the footsteps of the bball team and bolt for any other team. The "Runnin' utes will be running for other schools. Once they get into the pac 12 and start comparing schools they will bolt.

    Enjoy the bottom of the pac and your half filled RES after the first year. You ute fans just crack me up with your downgrading of BYU. You were rated how high? and then finish with a mighty win against the Y. You brag so much about that win and it was by one point against a bunch of freshmen. Boy, I can't wait until Football season. You utes are in for an awakening and stores will sell out of crying towels.

    "But we're in the pac 12 now, why are we fading into nothingness?" Good luck with staying relevant in the pac 12 or for that matter, college football.

  • PHealey Holladay, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 2:03 p.m.

    First to all of the ones claiming utah is hurting. I thought snorting anything was against Y rules?
    As far as I have seen on all of the recruiting pages the U has the advantage. That does not mean a lot though because the U has been out shown by many of their past bowl competetion at recruiting. What really matters is how they do on the field. I know a player by the name of Weddle that no one fought the utes over and look what he is still doing. We could talk about all of the pro players that Utah has playing in the NFL that were not recruited big time. We could say just the inverse about how many recruited heavily did nothing?
    What is the deal with Bingham and the Y? Has BYU-SL moved campuses?
    Hey BYU fans if it doesn't work out with CHow I will take Anie also. I think your Kitty Club makes some stupid decisions. I though it was stupid when you ran off CHow and took CrowtoWn. I hope DoMain works out DuePay won't help. If you can I would get Determan he does know his stuff.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    Jan. 25, 2011 2:02 p.m.

    "Once again, the utes are chowing down on left over players nobody else wanted"

    hmmm, typical tds troll response. I know you have the time, so take a look at the offers the kids we have verbals to. Now,( because you have the time) take a look at the offers the tds verbals have.

    Let me know your thoughts....LOL!

  • pocyUte2 Pocatello, Id
    Jan. 25, 2011 2:00 p.m.

    Nevada, FSU, USU, AF, TCU, Utah

    Yep, the picture is crystal clear.

  • Veritas Aequitas Fruit Heights, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 1:55 p.m.

    TheHailstorm | 1:20 p.m. Jan. 25, 2011
    South Weber, UT
    Again, it's just too early ... wait until the ink dries.

    Hailstorm is right. No reason to worry until it's done.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Jan. 25, 2011 1:31 p.m.

    TCU, Boise State, Notre Dame.--We get the picture!

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    Jan. 25, 2011 1:29 p.m.


    I agree, the tds trolls are out in force today. probably 80% of the comments.

    I wondered Y wouldn't these trolls want to comment on their own program?... so I looked at the BYU page. As you could guess; no articles on BYU football recruiting.....again.

    You see, Bronco and crew have already punted on this years class. What you see ( not much) is what you get.

    Bronbco might want to see if there are any other Bingham High kids interested...LOL!

  • TheHailstorm South Weber, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 1:20 p.m.

    Why not wait until Feb.2 before the program bashing ? I think the Utes do have a foot up on coaching and finding the better athlete and then develops them into quality players.
    Again, it's just too early ... wait until the ink dries.

  • AZUTE1 Mesa, AZ
    Jan. 25, 2011 1:14 p.m.

    2 of 3, 6 of 9 and a BCS-Conference Invite are enough to make any and every provo-fan insecure....The trolls are out in full force....UTAH will be just fine for crying out loud....Chow WILL have an impact and Whit WILL close, as he ALWAYS does....Just think, we could be stuck with the following to look forward to: UCF, Utah State, San Jose State, Idaho State, Louisiana Tech, Idaho, New Mexico State and Hawaii, with a off-week before LT and UH....AND if Ole Miss and UT are anything like they were last year, well, you get the picture........

  • pocyUte2 Pocatello, Id
    Jan. 25, 2011 1:11 p.m.


    I just saw that tweet. It looks like now he's going to make his announcement on or before signing day.

    With whit going there this week, I really like our chances of landing him.

    National signing day is going to be great.

  • Hawk Littleton, CO
    Jan. 25, 2011 1:03 p.m.

    Why would Norm Chow be a draw to LA area kids? He's just been canned by a second major SoCal program. Rick Neuheisel was desparate to save his job and what was his best answer? Get rid of Norm Chow. You don't think both UCLA and USC will use that against utah? Believe me, the legend of Norm Chow is NOT shining brightly in the LA area....

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    Jan. 25, 2011 1:01 p.m.


    (As if last night) Raven tweeted that he had not made a decision and the reports of him giving a verbal to Texas AM are (at least at this point) false.

  • pocyUte2 Pocatello, Id
    Jan. 25, 2011 12:42 p.m.

    Being a coach would be tough having your livelihood connected to teenagers.

    Utah's class is already very good, and I expect it to be great by the time it is over.

    The Utes currently have only lost 1 commit, Brown.

    Raven was never a commit, Henderson has not decommitted. Infact his rivals recruiting profile has him upgraded to a solid verbal, which also means his good friend and 4 star WR Junior Pomee is coming as well.

    Hopefully Whit and Co bring in Raven, Eubank, Denham, Latu and Lucien and make it the highest rated class ever.

    It's a good time to be a Ute.

  • GuitarGuy Layton, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 12:39 p.m.

    C'mon guys... The Utes will be just fine.

    "Fine" standing for: F.rantically I.n N.eed at E.very position.

  • moodyblue77 Provo, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 12:19 p.m.

    I've heard Henderson is also out. By the way, players don't hold out until the last minute to choose Utah. At least not yet.

    Next week will reveal all.

    At least 6 PAC schools now ranked ahead of Utah in 2011 recruiting.

    Utah plummeting 10 spots already. Maybe in a free fall.

  • 3grandslams Iowa City, IA
    Jan. 25, 2011 12:16 p.m.

    According to the trib Utah just lost another recruit to BYU. Olmua is coming to Provo! Turns down an offer from Utah.

  • RBN Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 11:59 a.m.

    Man... too many grown men (allegedly) care way too much about 17 and 18 year old kids... and that goes for Ute and Coug fans.

    All the recruiting talk is just too over the top. Can Whit coach? Yep. Will he be competitive with the kids he recruits. Yep. He's got a track record of doing that.

    The talent pool has been increasing and will continue to increase (see the trend of more Ute players going to the NFL).

  • MichiganCoog Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 11:59 a.m.

    "The wheels on the bus, are falling off, falling off, falling off, the wheels on the bus are falling off"...poor whittle utezies, our wee losing our recrutizies? Awe, dang...

  • pocyUte2 Pocatello, Id
    Jan. 25, 2011 11:50 a.m.


    The Closer is non-other than Coach Whit himself. With all the talk of Raven going to A&M, I haven't heard that Whit's in home visit is cancelled. Until then, I'm not counting him out.

  • worf Mcallen, TX
    Jan. 25, 2011 11:44 a.m.

    Once again, the utes are chowing down on left over players nobody else wanted. This time next year, ute fans will once again make excuses for why they loss big games and hedgehog will than head towards hibernation to hide his shame. Oh! How history repeats itself.

  • Skierelmo Oakley, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 11:37 a.m.

    Wow!! All the haters are out in full force.... hey, where's all the comments about how obsessed we are with your program.

    Brown leaving is not a huge shock. UW only has two qbs on their roster... why not go.try to be the next Locker vs not play for (best case scenario) 2 years. I wouldn't be shocked if Wynn doesn't have the starting job by next fall by the time Shreve, Griff, and possibly Eubank all have their shots to play win the first team.

    Raven I think is gone, lots of players decommit, but not to many don't learn their lasson and do it again. Latu gave an updated list today with his top three and we're not on it, so forget about that one.

    Now the good news. Denham gave a highly complimentary interview that sounds as close to a commit as you can give without saying yes. Pomee sound about the same and where he goes Henderson will also go. Add in the fact that Chow was Ucla's best recruiter? I wouldn't be suprised to see their tank empty and us benefit from it.

  • Uteology Fort Worth, Texas
    Jan. 25, 2011 11:27 a.m.


    We now have Chow to go after LA erea kids for PAC-12 play. So don't worry about us, we'll be fine.

    I find it interesting that now BYU has DuPaix and Doman, rumors are they plan to make Skyline HS their 2nd feeder school after Bingham HS.

  • Qwest Perfected Salt Lake City, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 11:13 a.m.

    I love the coog comments on here spelling out the doom of Utah's program.

    Yeah we have had some decommits but we are also in the game with a lot more highly recruited kids - it will all work out in the end. When signing day finally comes, I'm sure this will be one of the higher ranked classes the Utes have had. It will only get better from there. To say otherwise is simply foolish. Look at the number of players Utah is putting into the NFL every year.... it's consistantly gone up every year with Kyle.

    Oh and to the coog fan that wants to say how much better byu finished their season compared to the Utes... look at who they were playing. The y finished with the dogs of the MWC. Don't forget you lost to Utah State!!! Heaps is a good QB but you also have Bronco who doesn't believe in making adjustments or preparing his team differently for other opponents.

    We will see in a week or so who ends up with a better class but then we will go on to compete in the PAC 12!!! jealousy is ugly.

  • Johnny Triumph American Fork, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 11:09 a.m.

    Seems that Utah has lost its edge on some recruits now that they're in the PAC12, why should someone commit to Utah when they can probably be gotten at most other PAC12 schools that have the in-place reputation? Good luck to Utah, it's going to be a tough road for you.

  • --JEFFE-- Cedar City, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 11:08 a.m.


    Actually Utah only had four 4 star commitments from 2010 according to rivals,

    John Cullen
    Terrell Reese
    Kenneth Scott
    V.J. Fehoko

    And Utah has five 4 star recruits according to scout. Problem is, 5 of the 5 are JC transfers.

    BYU's recruiting class for 2010:
    One 5 star
    four 4 stars
    Not one of them were a JC transfer.

  • Bluto Sandy, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 10:57 a.m.

    Expect Chow to have sway?

    Have you Utes been to Husky Stadium, the Coliseum, Oregon, Stanford, or Arizona State?
    UCLA plays their games in the Rose Bowl.

    U can't compete with that.

    U has the 2nd smallest stadium in the pac-12.
    Not impressive.

    U better just hope that once you have a commit, that they don't actually take visits to your Pac-12 brothers, once they compare.....oh well.

    These 18 year old's could not care less about Chow's legacy, that's 2 generations ago to these kids.

    All this nonsense of being in the pac-12 will help your recruiting?

    These kids are bailing on Utah, once they compare their Mid-Major facilities and fanbase to Genuine Big-Time programs.

    Looks like U-Pretenders are being exposed.

    The hype is now running head-on into the wall of reality, known as the World of Washington State.

    Get used to it Utah, put your feet up, drink a cool one and relax, it is what it is. 5 and 6 wins is will have to do.

    Get the promotional department ready to ramp up the old "Buy a Taco get a free Ticket" campaign.

  • 3grandslams Iowa City, IA
    Jan. 25, 2011 10:47 a.m.

    Utah has now had three players decommit and move on. The logic is clear, if you can play in the PAC 10, why play at Utah? If you think utah had an inferiority complex in the MWC just wait.

    I also think Utah now becomes the "Mormon" school of the PAC 10. Utah fans have worked so hard over the years to develop that as a negative that it's going come back and haunt them.

    These decommits are a major blow the program.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    Jan. 25, 2011 10:36 a.m.


    just a reminder; It was last year at this time the tds was crowing "look at all the Ute decommits". Then came signing day the the only thing to be heard from the tds was crickets.

    Y, you ask?

    Let's look at what happend on or after signing day last year - shall we:

    Po'u Palelei 4 star
    Reggie Dunn 4 star
    Mo Lee 4 star
    Dexter Ransom 4 star
    V.J. Fehoko 4 star
    John Cullen 4 star
    Lucky Radley
    Tevita Finau 4 star

  • Bottom Line Draper, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 10:34 a.m.

    Look this Brown kid left for the same reason Langi joined....a chance to start. Although, I am unsure what Brown saw in the pipeline at Utah that made him think he couldn't get a serious look right of the bat.

  • flintrock Rigby, Id
    Jan. 25, 2011 10:31 a.m.

    I'm a Utah fan and they will not win more than 6 games next year. Kyle really blew it with Wynn. He weighted 155 lbs in High school and has put on 40 lbs to bulk up. His body is not built to play D-1 Football. He can't run, He can't pass out of the pocket and when the pocket collapses he curls up like a little girl and waits for the whistle. His arm is not strong enough to hold up over the entire season. The mistake made by Whit is that he was just to small and delicate to hold up to the rigors of D-1 football.
    Little known fact. Wynn lost the team and the receivers months ago.

    One more question. Why run the option or pistol or wildcat when your QB has zero running ability or size or speed to run those plays.

  • Max-was-right springville, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 10:20 a.m.

    The Chow effect starts.....

  • OnlyInUtah Cottonwood Heights, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 10:19 a.m.

    Recruits are bailing... sounds like a downturn in the program. Apparently there are better opportunities for these blue chip players. What happened to all the talk about how an invite to the PAC-12 would help with recruiting?

  • Bugoff Houston, TX
    Jan. 25, 2011 10:09 a.m.

    I expect Utah recruiting to improve by virtue of being in the PAC and they seem to be competing with other PAC teams.

    BYU's recruiting is not as good as it needs to be.

    However, based on the the number of NFL players placed over the last few years by both schools, I think it is fair to suggest that BYU has done reasonably well with less talent.

    BYU needs the right recruits at key positions to compete. If they don't get those key positions they tend to falter.

    Utah tends to have more NFL players.

    BYU will be okay with a couple of the right recruits. They are still hurting at TE and WR. DBs are always a problem.

    Chow is probably an improvement at OC if you give him enough talent.

    Utah is losing about as many great players as they are recruiting (so far). The team should be about as good as last years but with a tougher schedule.

    BYU's defense should be better. The offense should improve if they have people who can get open and catch the ball. The schedule strength is about the same.

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 10:06 a.m.

    We can add paranoid to the list including jealous, obsessed and insecure when describing hedgie and coachcarter etc. Your comments are the cause of much laughter for serious fans of both schools. Especially the ones that "guarantee" wins and losses. Here is a PREDICTION ladies.
    2011 football
    BYU 10 or more wins top 20 ranking in final BCS poll
    Utah 8 or fewer wins top 50 ranking in final BCS poll.

  • Utes21 Salt Lake City, ut
    Jan. 25, 2011 10:05 a.m.

    Dude why do you care what Ute fans say about Heaps? He isnt that great and your season was mediocre at best. To bad Brown decided to go but oh well they will figure it out.

  • Hunt Spanish Fork, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 9:36 a.m.


    Are you really trying to say that Heaps is not a great QB. Any sane Ute would take Heaps over Wynn in a heart beat.

    Also, you can spout off win-loss records all you want but we all know that BYU finished out the season on a much higher note than Utah.

  • Hawk Littleton, CO
    Jan. 25, 2011 9:31 a.m.

    Like I've said, COMPETING for big time recruits doesn't give you big time credibility, but SIGNING big time recruits would be a step in the right direction....

  • coachcarter Cedar City, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 9:17 a.m.


    you really have no room to talk. remember last spring when Heisman Heaps was the Savior of BYU football?

    Utah 10-3, BYU 7-6....Enough said

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    Jan. 25, 2011 9:12 a.m.


    Your right, I guess we shouldn't speculate about ACTUAL 4 star recruits the Utes are meeting with THIS WEEK.

    It's probably better to jump into "tds delusion" in believing that bronco only needs a couple of bingham high school kids every year to go 10-2.

    The TDS recruiting class is a trainwreck with no hope in sight.

  • TJ Eagle Mountain, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 9:10 a.m.

    This hurts the Utes a little bit. Other recruits who are sitting on the fence may be swayed by this. The Utes will need these guys to be competitive in the PAC. It will be interesting to see how it all pans out next week.

  • cougar4ever2 SLC, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 8:49 a.m.

    I love how hedgehog rationalizes losing Brown by saying the Utes will get someone better....Cam Newton comparison is priceless. Good luck with that!The Utes are going to NEED Cam Newton, not a comparison to, next year if they are going to have any hopes of winning any games. Keep on rationalizing Hedge. I will look forward to the excuses next year when your team is nursing a losing record with Jordan Wynn still wondering which way is up. Norm Chow isn't the savior of your team anymore than he was for UCLA.....rearranging deck chairs on the Titanic is what your team is now doing.

  • Ute_4_Life Springville, UT
    Jan. 25, 2011 8:46 a.m.


    Out of curiosity, who are you referring to as "The Closer"? Scalley? If so, let's hope he pulls it off!

  • pocyUte2 Pocatello, Id
    Jan. 25, 2011 8:21 a.m.


    don't count Raven out yet. The Closer still has his home visit down there later this week.

  • hedgehog Ann Arbor, MI
    Jan. 25, 2011 8:00 a.m.

    Tom Cella ( Rivals) believes that Denham, Pomee and Latu are all but shoe in's for the Ute class. ( all 4 star players)

    Unfortunetly Floyd Raven has just given a solid verbal to Texas A&M.... that hurts. Utah really needs to find that shut down CB.

    I'm also hearing that Mike Eubanks is still in play. If the Utes can land Eubanks it would be an upgrade over Brown.

    Eubanks is 6.5 / 225/ 4.7. ( 4 star)
    Often compaired to Cam Newton.