Question to Dennis Romboy and Lisa Roche - why was it necessary, important or
warranted to have a quote in your article from the Eagle Forum?As a
member of the LDS Church I too am curious as to why two GAs were part of the
opening day - there are other religious organizations in Utah as well as
individuals that could provide a moment of reverence, spiritual thought, etc.
This is the only "shakedown" that begins with a prayer!
'Well; since Utah was disputed territory, it was rather difficult to get a final
authority on who was able to offer either LEGAL or ILLEGAL authority to enter
wasnt it? So you merely ask a trick question.' - Counter Intelligence | 4:29
p.m. Jan. 24, 2011 It's not a trick question. The people who had
established themselves there first were the 'nomadic' Ute Tribes. Though
they didn't have a policy initially, I'm pretty sure they did when they were
forced to onto reservations or to flee to Canada. Since Mexico,
France, the US and Great Britan were where people were comming FROM... not where they were going TO. Since the land of destination did
NOT factually give pioneers consent to immigrate here, they did not move
here...LEGALLY. That's like saying Mexico gave immigrants legal
authority to move to America. And yet, even with this example in
history, those who benifited from illegal immigration try to deny that same
lesson to others. Irish, Polish, Danish, European America is
decended from immigrants. To show such lack of compassion to others
is truly a shame. And if you have a guilty consience, I canot help
With all due respect, this sounds like more of a church service than a
government activity. Is it one and the same?
'Therefore your implication that the Mormon pioneers were illegal immigrants is
not very pertinent.' - Counter Intelligence | 2:41 p.m. Jan. 24, 2011 Ok. Counter Intelligence, please give the who and what date,
gave Mormons the LEGAL authority to live in Utah. When it was, as
you say, disputed territory between: US, Britain, France & Mexico... while trying to say nothing about the Ute tribe that lived here before
Do the religious ceremonies that opened the Legislature, define the LDS-centered
politics of Utah?As the grandchild of an immigrant who only had to
come through Ellis Island and show she did not have TB, I support open
borders.The LDS came to Utah BEFORE the Treaty of Hidalgo was signed
in 1848. This isn't about immigration; this is about keeping brown people
"where they belong" (mowing our yards, cleaning our hotel rooms and
cooking our meals).To paraphrase a favorite phrase of the right
wing:When all immigrants are illegal, only illegals will be immigrants.
Utah, the world is watching you. You are the best hope for good government.
I hope that the legislative body takes into account all of the approximately
3,000,000 Utah residents feelings when they square off over illegal immigration
and not just the 3,000 signatures on the Utah Compact that Robles is trying to
push on Utah. The argument Robles is pushing is Utah does not have the right as
a State to enforce Federal immigration policy and out of the other side of her
mouth she is saying Utah has the right to make it's own laws and allow illegals
a free pass because they are already here breaking the law. Robles cannot have
it both ways and I think she shouldn't have her way at all. There are already
Federal Laws pertaining to illegal immigration. Those laws should enforced at a
State level if the Feds won't enforce the existing laws and protect the
interests of all US Citizens.