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Published: Friday, Jan. 14 2011 4:22 p.m. MST

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VST
Bountiful, UT

Jash, your referenced second to last paragraph of Article 1, Section 8 has no specific wording regarding that ALL the land in the states belong to the federal government and the country. That was the claim of My2Cents with regards to ALL Utah land.

Section 8 of Article 1 has to do mainly with the establishment of the District of Columbia (less than 10 miles square) wherein Congress has the power to exercise exclusive power over Washington D.C. Per this same Section 8, all other power to exercise like authority over all places purchased by the Federal Government can only occur with the CONSENT OF THE LEGISLATURE OF THE STATE.

Bottom Line: The Federal Government does not own ALL the land in every state. In the State of Utah, the Federal Government owns a majority of the land (an agreement reached upon issuance of statehood), but it does not own ALL of it.

OpenToDiscussion
Holladay, UT

Less then 20% of the BLM land in Carbon and Emery counties is closed to OHV use. Clearly much more protection is necessary to come close to the "balanced use" that the trail machine and corporate use groups speak about. OHV use is mutually exclusive to all other uses of the land. Remember wilderness is beneficial, even if you never set foot on the land.

justamacguy
Manti, UT

#1: OHV use is mutually exclusive to all other uses of the land.

No it isn't... only in your mind.

#2: Remember wilderness is beneficial, even if you never set foot on the land.

Wilderness in nice... but not necessarily beneficial. Beneficial is a defined use, just like "wilderness characteristics". It depends a a person's point of view which may totally differ from the next persons perception. ...and something that I do not set foot on or gain something form directly or indirectly is not beneficial. I'm living just fine without the dodo bird or the dinosaurs. I can probably live adequately or even better without wilderness. Especially if I have never visited or will never get to visit it.

OpenToDiscussion
Holladay, UT

Hey justamacguy, some people like me go to the land for peace and solitude and whining machines destroys that experience. Having less then 20% of the land set aside for that experience is not fair. Also wilderness means clean air and water available to those living around the wilderness areas. This is proven. The BLM land in Utah belongs to the people of the United States, not just those in Utah.

Uncle Charles
Where freedom and liberty reign, utah

@Dukie: you try so hard to be "above" the fray but you just can't help yourself with each of your posts. You claim to be independent but just constantly rip the Right and support the Left.

There is a clear case to be made that Obama is a Marxist and using his own words to do it.

The word is fair, not fare or perhaps that was a Freudian slip on your part since you are for taking our money to buy votes for your causes.

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As for the land grab, I say we just tell the BLM to take a hike and reclaim it as state land. Afterall, that's exactly what they do in the name of taking more and more state land. Just tell the Feds to shove it and we will do with our land, within our state boundaries, as we wish.

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