Hatchm you failed to support your "original" stance from earlier this
year, to becoming a total hypocrite, and you even failed to stand for your so
called "new stance".. clearly, no one is buying it. Hypocritical Flip
Flop failure. If you had a moral character and leadership to stand for what you
have believed for years, you would have voted "yes"! That speaks
louder then becoming a total failure of flip flopping .. like McCain nowadays.
Politicians I tell ya, no moral value in them nowadays.
I Cannot understand why it is "stupid" to teach the law and expect it
to be upheld.Whether it is selling drugs or not following the law to
become a legal citizen, it is still breaking the law and needs correcting. Is
breaking the law what this country was built upon. It seems to be wise to not
meddle with something which is not broken. Enforce the law or get
rid of it. It would develop respect.
Dear Utah Republican party delegates,Note Senator Hatch has failed
to show up to vote on the bill, either YEA or NAY. He said in his tweet that he
would vote NO, yet he did not follow his principle in showing up at the Congress
and prove it.Representative Jason Chaffetz has more backbone than
Senator Hatch. Consider dumping Hatch for Chaffetz or another candidate that is
a true conservative and WILL defend the Republic against illegal alien invaders
and domestic enemies, not just foreign enemies.Kick Hatch out in the
first or second round at Utah Republican Convention when he's up for primary.It's time to clean the house. (Congresspersons who fail to represent
Utah the proper and conscientious way must be ousted to be replaced with
principled Congressperson-elect)Mr. Hatch (I don't call you senator
anymore), you're next after your treasonous, RINO buddy Bob Bennett.
To: Tami...*Yes* Seniority is **extremely** important in the Senate,
and Hatch's seniority benefits Utah...Get your changes in
seniority... *Then,* and only then go after the folks you think are in it only
for seniority.If you allow (as happened recently) anti-Mormon
politicians from outside Utah to influence Utah elections to gerry-mander
seniority... All you are *really* doing is setting Utah up to lose jobs.Change for the sake of change is stupid when it is seniority that
decides things... Hatch is a good conservative.His
original plan of giving US Citizenship to returning combat veterans was a *good*
plan... His political enemies in Utah and out, and in the Republican party and
out can call it what they want...If *anyone* in the entire world
deserves US Citizenship... It is a soldier who has recieved fire in combat for
our country...Hatch had a good plan to begin with, and when *his*
plan turned into something else... He was smart to walk away from the vote. He
did the right thing.But, yes, in the *entire* Hatch package... His
seniority is a good thing for conservatives, and it is a good thing for Utah.
This was not Hatch at his best. But the fact remains that he is one of the best
Senators Utah and nation have ever had. His hand prints are probably on more
U.S. laws---making them more conservative---than any other current Senator. With
a greenhorn replacing Bob Bennett, Utah would be nuts to also boot Hatch. He
consistently votes in the best interests of Utah and nation. And his stature and
seniority-based power may be the only thing standing between Hill Air Force Base
and other federal facilities in Utah and their demise.
As a conservative (and against illegal immigration) I say, give Sen. Hatch a
break.The DREAM act had very little chance of passing anyway and I
think Sen. Hatch is NOW voting with the majority of Utahns.When I
write to Sen. Hatch about issues, I get a good response. When I wrote to Sen.
Bennett I got a "form" response (if at all). Sen. Bennett was all
about "arrogance", ("you couldn't vote me out if you wanted to,
my banker buddies will give me all the cash I need").Lets see
what happens in the next year. It would be bad to lose Sen. Hatchs' seniority
if, in fact, he will begin to vote conservative!
To juni4ling, What a poor excuse to keep someone in office-lets not worry about
whether or not they are representing us, we just need to maintain seniority so
we can get important committees. This is not a reason to keep Hatch, it is a
reason to demand change! Assignments based on seniority limit our voting power
and force us to keep people we may not want simply to hold seniority, yet they
tell us we don't need term limits because we can vote them out. We need to
DEMAND this change!
The truth is, Hatch abstaining from a vote on something he didn't want a part of
isn't something that should be held against him...I have personally
changed my mind on political ideas over time myself...For instance,
I think Hatch was right in originally wanting to give returning US Soldiers
American citizenship.Hatch supported (among many other conservative
Senators) giving soldiers who have fought for our country citiznship... Then
Liberals wanted to add pretty much *everybody*...Well, a bill
originally for *soldiers* changed into a monstrocity...I, for one,
don't hold that against Hatch...It turned into something *bad.* Liberals wanted to paint Hatch into a corner by seeing his vote... And
his political enemies (in his own party) wanted to paint him into a corner by
seeing his vote...He walked away.He did the *right*
thing in the long-run...To be excplicitly clear, Hatch's original
plan of giving US citizenship to soldiers who have fought for America in combat
is absolutely good legistlation. Period.It was a *good* plan, it was
*good* legistlation. And Hatch was smart to walk-away from the mostrocity that
it became.Hatch is a good conservative. Period.
Attending a grandson's graduation is probably a legitimate reason to miss a
vote. That said, Hatch knows that a vote for the DREAM act would have been fatal
to his re-election bid, and a vote against would have labeled him as a
hypocrite. A political conundrum at its best, and one that will cost him. Hatch
would do well to thank Utahns for their many years of support and join Bennett
in the lobbying business.
Once again....hopefully the last time, Bennett votes against the majority of his
constituents. Bye Bye Bob!!
I like many have really liked Sen Hatch over the years, but this was a very
stupid thing to do. We elected you to vote the way the people who voted you in
to represent them. By not voting, I have lost respect for him. Take a stand and
then deliver the vote. Like someone once said..."If you don't stand for
something, you will fall for anything." I kind of hate to say it, but I
think Sen Hatch will fall come election time.I for one want a better
explaination. Not voting is not being represented.
Hatch is doing a great job for the state of Utah.You folks are lucky
to have a Republican with enough seniority in the Senate to actually get things
done for your state...You folks talking about him quitting remind me
of little kids who want a cookie right NOW! You don't have the patience to wait
for your cookie, you want it right NOW!The truth is Hatch has done a
lot of good for Utah, and will continue to do a lot of good... You can replace
him with a Jr. Senator if you want, but you will then have to deal with the
consequences...Hatch's seniority in the Senate means *good* things
for conservatives, and *good* things for Utah.But, rest assured the
(anti-Mormon) Senator from South Carolina who trashed Bennett (via video) at the
Utah convention to endorse another potential candidate does not care one iota
about Utah, or Utah jobs... All he wanted to do was get Bennett replaced (with a
Jr. Senator)... A *brilliant* political move...When it comes time to
"move" Utah jobs to South Carolina (or wherever) you won't be hearing
a *peep* from the "Tea Party."
This lates debacle is Orin Hatch at his worst, but as much as I think Hatch has
let the citizens of this state down, Chaffetz would be the mother of all
debacles! We can't win for losing!
Senator Hatch, I have always been a HUGE fan and supporter of yours. Now, you
have precisely two options:(1) Keep up this politician's,
double-talk patter and be hounded out of office as was Bennett. Destroy your
own legacy with this desperate, self-serving spin, and make yourself a pariah
within the State among normal people, or(2) Announce asap that you
plan to exit the Senate, and gracefully represent your constituents (and not
your own ego, as did Bennett) until that day arrives in 2013. Remain popular to
a grateful and nostalgic Utah.Note that neither option involves your
re-election, which would be a miracle far outside the power of ANYONE in this
You folks gunning for Hatch will regret it if you get your way and the BRAC
comes around, and you don't have anyone from Utah with enough seniority to sit
on the committee...There are *senior* Senators who would *love* all
the jobs Hill would bring to their state...You might not like it,
but *seniority* in the Senate = jobs (military and Fed) in your state.Go ahead, and tell yourselved that pushing out Hatch is a good idea... There
are probably some *senior* Republicans who would like to see him go too, so
their "spots" move up, and they can get more jobs for their
constituents at the expense of jobs Hatch could protect... Hatch has
done a lot for the state of Utah that his time and seniority in the Senate has
bought for him... I think it is nothing short of silly to think folks can look
at that and think that gunning for him is a *good* idea...Yeah, you
go for Hatch's job, and replace him with a Jr. Senator who can't get a seat on
the BRAC committee, and see what economic devastation closing Hill would bring
What is cynical is Hatch.
Hatch was elected to represent the people of Utah and is being paid to vote YES
or NO, not to attend graduations or other affairs. He needs to step down or be
voted out in 2012!
I'm afraid the "graduation" excuse is going to backfire on you, Sen.
Hatch. Utahns are not that dumb -- and they don't enjoy having their
intelligence insulted. They especially don't appreciate you jeopardizing the
country by skipping this important vote -- one which was rather close, to
boot.Perhaps it is time to ow throw your efforts into helping
Utah needs a senator that is not going to pass away in office, one who is not a
Hatch, you have really made a big mistake in that decision. We have had persoanl
communication by voice and emails on this subject of illegals and their children
and you assured me you were against all illegal foreign occupation, border
crossings, and jobs by illegal aliens. Now you have made it clear you have
misrepresented yourself.We are not going to forget this next time
you want to remain in office. If the people still had the power to request the
redress of an elected representative, I'm sure you would be fighting for your
position now.Our representatives in Washington and Utah have lost
sight of who their constituents are, and it is not illegal aliens or citizens of
Mexico. Anyone entering this country illegally and by force is NOT an immigrant,
they are an invaders and terrorist individuals. I challenge every one of them to
produce any immigration documents just as every elected official should do.
Pretending to be ignorant is not always bliss and is personal self deception to
the truth.Sorry Hatch, I think you dug your own end of your
'Just six months ago, Hatch spoke in favor of the (DREAM) act at a town hall
meeting in Layton.' - Article So, first he's for it.
Then it's a cynical exercise.' Then he dosen't even show up for the
vote. It's not like I have EVER supported Hatch...
mainly because he dosen't support me. Or any of his constituents.
I agree the Democrats were using this to gain support from the far left and
Hispanic groups. They knew they did not have the 60 votes. On this
type of action, no discussion is allowed, it's votes to pass. Hatch knew his
vote would not matter. But I wish he would of voted, and showed his
constituency that he is listening. The only way to force people to
follow the law, is enforcement, not rewards when they break them. The 6-12
billion per year this bill would cost (besides the costs of giving amnesty to
millions)would buy lots of enforcement on the local level, and deportation
For the most part, they are all cowards when it comes to putting their name on
something. Vote Hatch out next, he needs to be voting against this garbage we
are handed by the democrats.
Senator Hatch is already in retirement...all we need to do is make it official
in the next election, that is unless he resigns. Hear that Senator Hatch,
resign. the fire has gone out in your belly. I have known that for a long time.
The "cynical political charade" here is Orrin Hatch trying to look
conservative with an election coming up.Listen up, Hatch: no one's
Senator Hatch won't get away with this spin. He needed to stand up and be
counted on this issue, one way or the other.
Once again Sen. Hatch shows us the skills he has learned from his overly long
power trip inside the Beltway.Speak against a bill, but then don't
actually vote against it. Hope that later on you can campaign for support from
those Hispanics who are pro-amnesty, while still being able to tell those
opposed that you opposed it.However Hatch is right when he said
"What do you call a Senator who has been in Washington too long? You call
him home!"Hatch is no longer offering leadership for
conservative (if he ever did) but only seeking to perpetuate his own power and
Mr. Hatch, your no-show on the dream act is an insult to the majority of Utah
residents. You publicly stated you would vote against the bill, then you had
the temerity to not show up. Your absence was as good as a yes vote. You need
to retire, you no longer represent Utah.
I like senator Hatch, but he knows he's in some trouble for reelection in 2012,
and for someone who disdains career politicians; Hatch has been in way too long.
Time for him to step aside (which I think he will do), and let a stronger
conservative fill his seat. 2012 is going to be a wilder election year than 2010
because whoever runs against Obama will win, and the Democrats will lose control
of the senate too. They will go from controlling both houses of congress and the
presidency, to controlling nothing. Their legacy is a ruined economy, a
president who golfed and played basketball while America burned, unemployment
rose, taxes rose, debt rose, and despair reigned.
Flip, flop. Flip, flop. Orrin actually supported the dream act before he
opposed it. Orrin actually supported health care reform before he opposed it.
As a matter of fact, Orrin sponsored a health care reform bill in 1993 that was
similar to what passed this year.Flip, flop. Flip, flop. Spin
"a cynical exercise in political charades"Hmmm, sounds just like
election Nov 2012. Goodbye Mr. Hatch.
Hatch should have voted, 'Yea'.
It seems to me that the current resident at 1600 Pennsylvania Avenue frequently
voted "present" in the Illinois General Assembly.I had to
chuckle at Orrin's rationale. Given that logic, why did he cast all those other
votes over the years? Perhaps Hatch has had enough of that Senate job and needs
to make a career change.
Senator Hatch: You may think your job is about a million different things but
the bottom line is that you're there to represent your constituents. By not
voting, you're not doing you job. Listen to the people of Utah or follow in the
footsteps of Mr. "We need illegals" Bennett.