To Bishop, Huh, and others who asserted that single people will be disciplined
by the church for adopting: You are dead wrong. The official Church Handbook of
Instructions simply does not support your assertions. The church's only official
policy on adoption is that adoption laws must be strictly followed. The church
encourages adoption by couples, but the church in no way punishes single parents
who legally adopt.Congratulations to Bill and Amy (the married
adoptive couple). I hope you make it through all the legal hurdles successfully.
To Anon 808,It never hurt anyone to breed out a race of people. The
English tried to do it with the Scottish people, and they were quite successful
with those they didn't kill. mixture is the only way this world can get along.
Thank you Tina, and so will I, Sunday will no longher look as much like the
whitest day of the week. One of many reasons I stay in the Islands.Also some of the Princess will look like Tiana (Princess and the Frog).In a few years you could also do a remake of Guess who is Coming To
It wont hurt Utah to populate this state with Haitians. Utah has good resources
here to educate all the Haitian children.
Totally appreciate your sentiments, and for the general population of children,
I whole heartedly agree. However, this article was written with incorrect
information which was corrected here in the comments section by Billy's Mom (and
she actually is Billy's Mom) Lauren was found in the streets by the pastor who
runs the orphanage many many months (I think she said 2 years, but am not sure
and for some reason I cannot toggle between here and her comment)before the
earthquake. In her time at the orphanage no one has come looking for her or to
visit her. I really think the so-called reporter for this story did the
Betz's a disservice by not asking more questions and giving more details as to
the full situation of both Lauren and the orphanage she lives in. I'm all for
LDS centered good news, but when there is more thought put into identifying who
is and is not LDS in the story, than into the complexities of a not-so-simple
situation, its disappointing.
I have stayed on this Board on this Topic because the Mods, keep the hate out.
I live in a land where people do not see Color and Race as much as
elsewhere. In part because of Scott, I have done a complete 180 on
this subject. I have had to rethink it and put it to Prayer. I did not think
that this Adoption thing was a very good idea.I still hold the same
reservations as I did before. Fact is Fact, Life is life. What has changed is
attitude and the ending words So What!Get as many kids out, as young
as you can as fast you can, then let God sort it out.I have No
Problem with most of the People of Haiti, my issues are with the Government Of
Haiti. I have the same issues with the Government of the D.R.If you
build Shacks along Major Fault Lines when the Earth Moves Stuff will fall down
it is as simple as that. When that happens people die.If I was stuck
in Haiti and I could get my child out, I would be dead. We are
saving, not stealing the Children.
I think anyone who LDS who needs a child should be able to have one of these
wonderful kids. If we have enough of them in the church they will not feel
alone. The more the better.
Bishop: LDS Social Services will only allow Adoption to Married, Two Parent
Homes, Active In The Church with a Current Temple Recommend.There
are also other requirements. Age among them. In the case of Single
Parent Adoption in most States it is Legal. The Church is required
to obey State and Federal Laws. State and Federal Laws Trump Religion and
Culture.The is about the Religious Bloodline and the Priesthood. The
rules are to protect the Adults and the Kids. I think the word
Tolerant is Wrong. I think the Word Accepting fits better.In a
culture where the Goal is Family and Temple Marriage I can see where Single
Adoption could cause a ripple among some people.In some places the
Box is very small, where I live not so much. We had the natural Father of an
Adopted Child show up at our Ward last Sunday. We shock hands and Hugged and
welcomed him. So didn’t the Adoptive Family, who are my closest friends in
the Ward.I have always suggested that they move out of the general
area but they have chosen to stay. Sometimes you just buy the BVD's
and live with it.
Than k You Scott Taylor. You will be a legand among them, when they read you
storyies.Although she is far younger then me. My wife and I are
somewhat older. I have been wondering what I could do for these
people.I can adopt one or two. My Son's Girlfriends Mother is from
Trinadad, I can talk her into doing the same. I have a Sister In Law in Ogden,
Her and her Husband are young and full of game, they would enjoy another child,
I will have my wife talk to her.I have a Stepdaughter in Seattle,
she has two almost grown Black Daughters and a late life White Son and another
on the way. She is an Accountant and works from Home. I will talk to her.Get the idea, get on board if you can and quickly.I could
take shr/him/them to my Ward and No One would Stare or Grab their kids away.
They would hug them, welcome them and see if we needed any cloths.If
we died before they where grown, my kids would finish the job for us. This I can do and I will start tommorow.
I am totally fascinated by people comments!I have been following this tragedy
though the LDS because I can expect stories like this one, not every thing is
glum and dumb.yes my heart goes out to these people, I lived 31 years in a Latin
American Country and I know first hand what these children so though. Adults can
bounce back but a child is totally defenseless. So if it takes a tragedy like
this for these children to have a decent home and caring families then so be it.
God bless all that take the steps to help these children.I wish I had the means
to do this myself, but my prayer are for those that have the means and the
stamina to do so.
Taking the children out of country temporarily for safety purposes is fine.
Getting away from the disaster area is a necessity to it's being rebuilt and
people to live in relative peace and calm. Haiti is a small country when you
look at a map.Adopting is different from taking them out of country,
temporarily displacing them for safety purposes. How would this family feel
about adopting her and having to return the child to a relative or parent a year
or two down the line when they are finally reconnected officially. And to return
her to those conditions. Seems cruel for everybody. The missing time the bio
parents had not knowing, the child going from one home to another and being
returned to vastly different environment, the adoptive parents who no longer are
the parents.BTW before singles rush to apply to adopt from China
they stopped accepting single applicants in 2007. There aren't a lot of choices
for singles. Agencies aren't accepting new clients for Haiti program
because there is no infrastructure to fascilitate new adoptions now. With the
mass graves how can officials be sure who is dead and who is alive?
Stop being so nasty. They were pointing out that non-Mormons and MOrmons are
working together. Otherwise everyone would assume he was Mormon, since he hosted
the LDS team.I doubt your so-called charity extends that far. Drop the
not-so-civil religious war and quit looking for slights where none exist.
There is quite a bit of paperwork that must be done in the US before even
heading to Haiti or any other foreign country. For those who are unaware here
is the basic run down.1st you must choose a country (each country has
different requirement)Then you find a home study agency they thoroughly
check you out background checks (notice more then one) financial
checks,reference checks, parenting evaluations and much more. (this typically
takes 3-4 months)So as you can see like Bills mom said this is the
beginning of a very long process.Then you chose a placement agency (which
could be the same as home study agency)Then you get cleared through UCSIS
(US fed Goverment) More fingerprints and background checks.Then you must
meet all the requirements and do the paperwork to send to the overseas
govermentOnce all that is done then you are matched with a childdo
more paperworkgo through court in the countrygo through the US
embassy to make sure your not trafficking childrenThen you can bring your
In case you missed it, with these feels good stories - sounds good stories -
this just in - Three aid groups called for an immediate halt to any new
adoptions of Haitian children after last week's earthquake. Save the Children,
World Vision and a unit of the British Red Cross said the focus first must be on
tracing any family members that children may still have and reuniting them. Any
hasty new adoptions would risk permanently breaking up families, causing
long-term damage to already vulnerable children, and could distract from aid
efforts in Haiti, the agencies said in a joint statement. Stories of Haitian
orphanages struggling after the quake and the plight of the children there also
has led many to ask about adopting children. Save the Children Chief Executive
Jasmine Whitbread said the vast majority of children on their own in Haiti are
not orphans, but were simply separated from their families in the chaos. Taking
children out of the country would permanently separate thousands of children
from their families. a separation that would compound the acute trauma they are
already suffering and inflict long-term damage on their chances of recovery.
As I read this story I got both good and bad feelings.Good because its
always great to see a child happy.Bad because I heard that according to
international law when theres a catastrophe in a country adoptions are put on
pause. And as its known in Haiti all the offices have been destroyed and most
officials have died. So how could you start adoption papers (even if helped by
someone) This could lead to bad people getting this children.They dont
know the age of this little girl, so how can they be sure if she doesnt have a
relative still living. Im in favor of making the adoptive process less
expensive and faster, but in a serious way.You can help this orphans by
making sure theyre given food, medical treatment, etc. Take them with a tourist
visa to the US for a couple of months until they can be relocated in Haiti. But
no weird adoptions processes.
It is, and will always be the Church's position that children should be brought
up in a two parent household whenever possible. That also included adoptions.
I have a wonderful friend, she is lds, SINGLE, and has adopted 2 yes 2 girls
from China!!!! I met her 2 years ago while we both were participating in the
Hill Cumorah Pageant, in Palmyra, NY. These 2 girls were both
orphans, both of them have no idea who their birth parents are; they were left
on the street as newborns! So let's talk about which situation
either the church OR anyone would rather these girls to be in... The chances of
them being adopted by LDS families and sealed was slim to none! My friend has
given these girls a loving home, and they have been taught the restored gospel
of Jesus Christ! As for possible discipline for a single person
adopting.... I can't swallow that AT ALL! In fact, that infuriates me! If we lived in a perfect world then sure singles wouldn't need to adopt there
would be families waiting for EVERY orphan out there!!! In fact, if we lived in
a perfect world there WOULD BE NO ORPHANS RIGHT?????
Obviously some of you did not read the entire story, It indicated that he
borrowed a cell phone to call his wife. This leads me to believe that he is
married. However, what difference does it make if a person is single or
married. These children need parents. Should it matter if they are single? I
think not as long as they can give these children warm loving homes. Who cares
what the Bishop says.
While it is true that adoption by singles is frowned upon by the Church and may,
in many circumstances lead to discipline, the Church is becoming more tolerant.
Adoption "He is obviously not LDS. If you are LDS and single you cannot
adopt. You can even get excommunicated for it."You might want to
read the article again. It states several times that he is married.
I guess this is one way to increase the diversity of Utah.
To 'Adoption'. Where on earth do you get your information??? And He isn't
adopting, if you know how to read correctly. What he meant was that he was
going to 'adopt' the orphanage, not a child! To 'Wow', quit it with the
cynicism. There are many people who realize that non-LDS people are kind and
generous. Your religion has nothing to do with it, it is your attitude and your
choices. So, you are in fact quite the oxymoron yourself. To those of you who
are still worried about the 'paperwork' to be done. The country is in shambles,
and the lives of children are at risk. The important thing is to get them out,
and placed with foster parents and then work on getting them placed permanently.
My husband and I are confirmed for a flight to Haiti to help with the crisis
and are ALSO working on paperwork to foster/adopt a child. Lets all just use
our energy to be a force for good, and not for judgement, cycicism or "I told
you so". Good luck to Lauren, and all those children, and adults who are
It's sad, but you're 100% correct.
That is simply not true. I know several single LDS people who have adopted
children. Your information is incorrect. If they adopted children and were
excommunicated, it wasn't because they were single.
He is obviously not LDS. If you are LDS and single you cannot adopt. You can
even get excommunicated for it.
That is not the true according to the statement by our government on the
intercountry adoption page. Parents must have the say whether the child is
adopted even after they enter the orphanage. They need to see papers to that
effect or documented proof they are dead. I can't post the link.
Would have been nice if it were included in the article or read before this
story was printed. How many are going to bombard agencies with calls when
adoption isn't possible at this time from Haiti. Even if the featured family met
the qualifications. It is too easy in the adoption world to get your heart
broken and wallet emptied. Why can't groups feed the entire family
so families are split up to begin with?Adoption is wonderful and
that's what made me a parent. I wish them luck finding a program and match.
What a great story and article.
Bill did not go the Haiti to adopt. He went to help with providing medical aid
to the disaster victims. As His parents, we have watched and worried as he
headed off to El Salvador after massive mudslides caused death and destruction
in that country years ago and returned each summer to work in clinics with
health care and building projects. Sometimes stories become changed in the
telling, in this case, Lauren was actually found in the streets, apparently
abandoned at a few months of age, she has been reared for 3 years in a very poor
orphanage that was destroyed in the earthquake. Bill has spoken with the pastor
who found her and learned than no one in 3 years has come forth to claim her.
We, as a family, understand adoption to be a long process and hope everyone's
prayers will be with Lauren for health and comfort in the long months ahead
while she waits in the new orphanage.
@K "Parent's wouldn't bring their children there if they knew they wouldn't have
them back again."This is not true. Before the earthquake most
orphanages in Haiti were filled with children who had living Haitian parents who
placed them there because they could not feed or care for them. They had to
agree to let them be adopted when they left them there. The orphanages were
supported by adoptive parents who sent money each month until their adoptions go
through. The biological parents do have to sign the final papers before the
children are able to leave with their new parents, but if the parents do not
sign the child will be returned to them, not able to stay in the orphanage. One
of our Haitian granddaughters was once returned to her birth mother because she
misbehaved and the orphanage thought that no one would want to adopt her. Generally, Americans have no concept of things in Haiti. You cannot
think of it in terms of what would be normal or accepted in the US. And now,
after the earthquake, it's even less like American life or standards.
I see these stories, yet see adoption agency websites indicating that they
aren't doing any adoptions through Haiti at the moment. That the first priority
is to link children with possible extended family or neighbors in the area who
would care for these children. Where do those who are interested in adopting
"Though not a Mormon, Laurent has opened his home, guesthouse and compound this
week to a visiting team of LDS volunteer doctors and nurses from Utah and the
rest of the United States providing post-quake care."Does that mean
that there are actually *gasp* decent and generous non-Mormons out there? My
entire foundation is rocked by this news.
How could you go down there to help and no bring back an orphan? Those poor
children that are suffering so much. I hope the adoption process is sped up to
save more of these kids.
With Daniel and K. While this story is "heartwarming" and I applaud
what many are doing for the children of Haiti, it is my hope that whoever wants
to follow suit do so cautiously and do so by educating themselves properly and
not rely primarily on emotional grounds. Or should we do so to gratify our own
desire.Yes, it is downright tragic but these children do not need
our pity nor do we need to patronize them for what we perceive they lack. They
do need more than a handout. These are REAL children with REAL stories.I have worked with and met many who "initially thought" it was a good idea
(because I'm helping someone else) to save the "less fortunate" from their
world.But when the emotional need subsides and reality hits, the
children only end up becoming the victims of our own misdirected intentions.
Actually the parents both need to be 35, if one is under 35 they must be married
If you look at the website the US government has talking about intercountry
adoption and Haiti there is a special message dated on the 22nd."We
understand that other Americans, moved by images of children in need, want to
open their homes and adopt other Haitian children who had not been identified
for adoption before the earthquake. The State Department advises against this
course of action at this time. Intercountry adoption involves strict safeguards
and legal requirements that must be met to protect children from illegal
adoptions, abduction, sale and child-trafficking as well as to ensure that any
adoption is in the best interests of the child." Children who are
coming home were already adopted or the 18 month adoption period was well
underway, it just takes months after for the official adoption passports and
VISA's to get done. Most kids coming to the US have already taken the name of
their adoptive families long before the quake.
My comment didn't go through.In the last 6 years in stable time
about 300 adoptions to the US took place from Haiti. That is with an "orphan"
count of 300,000 plus.Pet-store mentality. I am upset this phrase is
used in the story. To Question. There are programs you are qualified
for. Just not this one. If someone really wants to adopt they will look into
various programs, see which qualifications they meet. Discourage what
challenges they are comfortable facing: FAS, conspicuous families, breaks in
attachment such as is seen but not limited to foster care kids, orphanage
developmental delays, special need children.. We can care for
orphans and still not adopt them. The child in question was brought to an
orphanage but that doesn't mean all family is dead. Earthquakes don't happen
when everyone is home. Parent could be injured somewhere so neighbors too her
there. Most in orphanages there aren't orphaned. Their parents can't feed them.
But even though kids can't necessarily get out of the orphanage. Parent's
wouldn't bring their children there if they knew they wouldn't have them back
I looked on the Haiti adoptive website and it said that in order to be qualified
to adopt, you have to be married for 10 years, and be over 30. I am 24 years old
and my husband is 25. We've been married for almost 3 years and have had
infertility problems. I would love to adopt, but if I'm not qualified then
there's nothing I can do right? I can provide a good stable environment, more
love than any child could ask for, food, water... why are they putting a
qualified status on there? Wouldn't they want children to be adopted so they can
grow up educated and healthy and happy and loved? Does anyone know anything
about this that could help me?
cute story though. People are going down there to like pick out their future
children. Sounds a bit weird to me.
I will add to what I said when Bill and Amy first emailed me. Not only am I
overwhelmed with gratitude that I can call you both family, but I am grateful
that you keep the spirit and listen to it. You are truly blessed to have the
means to be there and help in such a huge way. I have no doubt the blessings you
will receive from Lauren will drastically overshadow the effort it has required.
Please let me know how we can help in ANY way.
And I am an adoptive parent from a child born overseas.If someone
wants to adopt there are processes to go through. Even with Haiti you don't fly
to an orphanage and pick one out. Adoption should be about family
building. Not the knee jerk response to a tragedy. Who wants to be a parent's
visable sign to their community of a "good deed" performed? These
kids already will go through trama and have delays from nurtition gaps. Now
there is the earthquake. Placing them in a home that's drastically different
from their environment. Not seeing many from their ethnicity and culture. When
you adopt you go through meetings/interviews with social workers, take classes
on the above topics to help deal, gather paperwork on every detail of your life
financial, marital, education, work, extended family. You invite people to
inspect your home. There are rules regarding age, weight, heath of parents,
number of kids in the home.A person who is on the ground and sees a
child hasn't gone through any of this process yet. They have no idea what they
are getting into or even if it's possible to adopt?
This story brought tears to my eyes...and I'm at work! Sure hope no one walks
into my office and sess me blubbering over my keyboard. What a beautiful way to
bring something good out of something so horrific. I'm sure her parents are
smiling down from heaven.
I love these pictures! Congratulations to the new parents and best of luck to
the people creating the new orphanage. What a wonderful story.
Time for me to change my attitude of Brandt Andersen (formed after his terrible
Michael Jordan PR stunt recently). Good for him for giving aid and helping out.
best of luck to the young couple and God Bless...
Obviously "Distasteful" is just a young inexperienced kid. He/she does not
understand the horrors of this world. I am a grandma of 60, and would take a
child in a heartbeat. Where do I sign up? I hope that there are many thousands
more of families like the Betz's who will take in the orphaned children of Haiti
and give them a chance at life. I went to the LDS webpage and they have a
donation site. I felt it was the one safe place to give money to help Haiti.
Obviously you have never felt the pain of not being able to have a child. You
must have some pain in your life for something. What a wonderful guesture to
give a girl a better life. She will be surrounded by people who truly love and
in regard to "distasteful kidnapping" - wow, what a sad person. There is only
love to be seen in this story. To think it better for this little girl to live
in a makeshift home with no food or clothes, illness that comes from such - I'm
just not sure what a person like that could be thinking. I'm so glad she found
a family that wants to bring her into their home and raise her and give her a
life. I hope they don't suffer through too many of the hardships that adoptive
parents go through in a situation like that.
Kidnapping.. are you sick and crazy? so.... let's leave these little children
there in a country torn apart, very little food,(of which is being brought in),
a lack of potable water, etc etc... to NEVER have a loving family and home
life.This beautiful child deserves a home, with parents who will
nurture, teach and guide through lifes trials; she will surely face. Did you read how most of the children in this orphanage were brought there?
I for one think this is a WONDERFUL STORY and made me weep to think
this little one has a future! Thanks for an article filled with HOPE
in this seemingly HOPELESS situation there for the people of Haiti. May God bless you and your efforts. All who are there giving aid to those who
The only distasteful story here is your comment.Obviously you know
nothing about Haiti. You know nothing of the disease. You know nothing of the
contempt the government has for the orphaned children which is exactly what
happen with Lauren if she is left there. They are left to die in the streets,
to drink from ditches along side of animals and animal droppings. They are left
to starve. They are ignored. No Distasteful, the people who go to
Haiti to help have kind gentle souls. I hope many children come home with them
to find warm homes with food, education, and most of all love. So,
Distasteful, you go ahead and sit there on your computer and do all the judging
you want but when you get ready for the day, stand in front of your mirror and
ask yourself, what have you done to help the Haitian people today and long term.
@"Distasteful Kidnapping"And what, exactly, do you think will happen
to those children who are NOT adopted from Haiti during this crisis? Even
before the earthquake, the Haitian adoption agencies were not exactly
functioning smoothly. In the aftermath of the earthquake, those agencies will
be too swamped to provide adequate services, and children like Lauren will
probably starve unless someone adopts them quickly. This is not the time to
fuss about rules; little kids' lives are at stake.@got a question:
The article says that the rescue volunteers are living in a "sprawling
compound" owned by a construction magnate. Maybe he and his wife have a toy
kitchen set. In Haiti.
I don't know. The phrase that is most troubling to me is "her parents said to
have died". I think that we need to tread lightly here. As one who has lived in
Haiti, I can attest that there are plenty of children who have been in
orphanages for years who are adoption candidates. To push forward with the
adoption of a child on the premise that her parents may have died in this recent
disaster is inappropriate in my opinion. While this may be a touching story to
some, an exhaustive effort ought to be mounted to find her parents, grandparents
or other relatives before taking this sweet little girl away. No matter how
worthy & deserving these prospective parents appear to be, there is vast
potential for impropriety here.
To "Distasteful kidnappig": Would you rather this child (and other
children like her) continue to live as orphans for the rest of their lives,
malnourished and with little hope for a bright future. Your condemnation of
this scenerio is mindboggling!
This is a powerful story, but the comment about distateful kidnapping is clearly
misguided. Anyone who takes a malnourished, orphaned child into their home is
not kidnapping. What is the alternative? Keep the child in an impoverished
orphanage without access to food, healthcare, education, etc. They will make a
wonderful family--shame on anyone for judging this couple's desire to provide
love and care.
what else is distasteful is the cost for adoption, people that collect the
monies or the governments that collect the revenue are doing nothing but human
trafficking.This is a a great story, in the way that this girl has
no living family & now she will have a couple that really wants to take care of
"...with no intent to return them to their homes." What homes? These are
children with no home, no parents, no family other than the orphanage, no hope.
What a distorted, negative view on life you have. What about considering
compassion and providing a home and hope to those that have neither?
Did you read the article? The girl's parents died in the earthquake. Would you
rather her grow up in a Haitian orphanage? She will be loved in her new family,
and given opportunities she never would have had in Haiti. It is not criminal to
want to give someone a better life. It is compassion.
Kidnapping? Are you crazy? This child's family is dead. How could you possibly
think this is anything but a wonderful thing this person is doing? And what home
do you think this little girl should be returned to? Your attitude
is nothing short of astounding to me.
I certainly do not understand how "Distasteful Kidnapping" can be so negative to
such a heartwarming story???? Some people are not happy unless they are putting
someone else down. I would love to have a couple of these orphaned children
myself to care for and put through school. How do you know that he will not
teach his adopted daughter about her country?? This is beautiful and I hope that
more children will be taken in. With the numbers so staggering, there will
probably be many orphans in Haiti who will live in an orphanage until they are
adults, if they are lucky. I've seen so many pictures of children wandering the
streets with little clothing on and it just breaks my heart. Congratulations to
Bill Betz and his wife and new little girl!
I am humbled by the generosity of these people, and awed by those who are so
willing to share their means to rebuild a devastated orphanage. The world needs
more people like the ones in this story.
Such a wonderful story--but I have to ask-where in the world are they in
the picture where they are playing with the little toy kitchen set? It
looks like someplace not to be found in Haiti ever.Thanks Scott for
another great story.
This was the most touching story I have ever read. What a wonderful beginning
for a sweet little girl. I'm sure she will be home with her new family where she
can finally get proper care and food. What a sweet blessing for this wonderful
couple who waited so long to find their little girl.
What a sweet story. I wish this new all the love they deserve and hope for a
speedy home coming.