To Andrew,Zach is correct. Your not allowed to take 2 steps when you
havent dribbled the ball. LeBron got the ball, took a small step back with
his right foot which then becomes his pivot foot then he took a massive step
behind the line with his left foot. He then lifted his right and also dragged it
behind the line. That was only one of many but anyway..we won and he'll continue
to get away with it regardless.
Now now Doug, those personal attacks are not necessary here. Why do you feel the
need to do that? Everyone is entitled to their opinion my good man,
even you and your alter-ego Ed. When you get so defensive it is obvious to see
you are clutching at straws and trying to insult your way out of trouble,
instead of using logic and reasonable arguments.Just accept your
views are in the extreme minority on these boards (and in the thinking world)
and move on. It's not good to carry such hate in your heart ol' Dougy baby!
I will give Sloan some of the credit for the win but at the same time he was
forced to put players into the game that would not usually see the light of day
in the fourth quarter with Boozer fouled out, and AK and Deron sucking there
thumbs in the locker room. And does it not seem stupid that you have two seven
footers playing for the CAVS and yet Fes is glued to the bench but in crunch
time you put a guy in that is on his second 10 day contract. Yeah great he hit
the shot but it was not because Sloan was the better coach. It was more because
he was forced to play guys who have more heart than the starters do.Guaranteed if the other guys are not fouled out or hurt Sloan rides them to
the loss because that is what he does.
What, no trade rumors today? Chris bosh could be in utah, and he should be at
all costs. He'd be a player we can depend on, and he'd be loving sloans system.
he said in a report he'd think about going to new york because d'antoni is a
good coach, i wonder if he thinks sloan stinks, and this is why we haven't
traded for him?
in case you havent noticed the lakers can maybe relax a bit and lose some games
since they are the defending champions afterall. there is a reason why the
lakers have the top record right now in the nba just as the jazz did in '97 and
'98, because they are talented, deep, and have a really good team. the jazz'
current winning streak is the norm for them each and every single year, they'll
win like 10-15 in a row each year which will shut their critics up only
temporarily and then they go right back to their losing ways and give their
critcs a reason to complain.
To AndrewJust a clarification, Lebron's step back 3 pointer WAS a travel.
You are not allowed two steps without a dribble. Once you get the ball and take
a step you've established a pivot foot, and once that pivot foot is established
it may be picked up, but cannot be returned to the floor without shooting or
passing. The new rule reads, in part (Oct. 16, 2009): "A player who receives
the ball while he is progressing or upon completion of a dribble, may take two
steps in coming to a stop, passing or shooting the ball."
You are wrong again.Analysis is always fair...it just that you
rarely have anything to say but offer NEGATIVE and COMPLAINING analysis. If you ever do offer any positive statements it always seems to be with
a qualifier.My guess is that in your life your glass has never been
half full.You have been challenged multiple times on these forums as
a result of your incessant critical comments of O' Conner to give us a trade
that:1. Does not worsen the Jazz salary cap issues.2.
Does not make the Jazz take on bad long term contracts.3. A trade
for players actually available.4. Makes us able to beat the
lakers.When you provide this then you might get some credibility.Until then most everyone recognizes your comments for what they are.
I for one would still like to see a trade!! That was a tremendous shot by Gains
but that wont get the Jazz to the playoffs!! I for one would like to see a
D-Will and Rip backcourt here in Utah!!
I would still like to see a trade before the deadline!! that one shot wont get
us to the playoffs! we need to make a push for the playoffs!
The Cleveland game is why I go to sporting events, everyone that watched has a
great memory, had fun, and will talk about that game for a long time. Your
favorite team does not have to win a championship or win every game to enjoy the
game. Sure you buy a ticket and the team you support should try and put the
best product out there, but enjoy the game.
Doug, you need to cut out the rhetoric. More people agree with Todd than they
do not. He is fair when Sloan and O' Connor do right he has mentioned it.If it was up to you and a few others Censorship would be alive and
well.I agree as usual with Todd, most of the people who write and
bag on those who disagree and are not satisfied "with a nice product", you
rarely see on here when they lose.
I was AT the Jazz/Cavs game sitting behind the Cavs bench, and I heard King
James verbally intimidate a ref. Yeah, others do it too with a snarl and
in-your-face attitude, though I haven't seen the Jazz do that much. Not like
LeBron. And he rolled his eyes after we won as the team exited. Yuck! Loved
Korver's shot and can still see that last ball by Gaines flying through the air.
It was a timeless, hold-your-breath moment, and then the noise was enough to
make my body vibrate! I think about who was playing and who wasn't, and I have
to say I'm impressed. All other Jazz issues aside, it was a night to remember
and well worth the ticket price for those seats. That win will always merit its
own stand-alone place in Jazz history, no matter what's come before or will come
after. I loved it! Thank you Jazz for a very memorable evening!
Here is what 1124 and Doug and Ed want to hear: I want to provide
pleasureThe JAZZ are the best run sports organization since the
invention of the peach basketThe Jazz always spend the money wisely,
make little change which is great, respect the elders and feel the best way to
go is for everyone to agree whatever they doBeing critical, is
unamerican and unjustifiedSloan has the most versatile system
ever-better than Scottie Bowman and all the legendsSLoan, loves
utilizing his whole roster, loved milking Knight, Collins, Benoit, Mcleod and
other great Jazz players that were as good as KobeSloan has the best
defensive mindset. AS a player he always knows what to do. Against good
shooters it is a great idea to allow 2 open shooters behind the line and tells
his guys to stay humble in the lane/paintFabulous.Sloan
has the best playoff of any coachSloan is Far better than Pops,
Auerbach, Red (both) and Phil ever would hope to beSloan knows more
in one hand than the rest will know in a lifetimeBeing critical when
called is wrong and uncalled forMy name "House Man"
Ed and Doug the new "outsider" Bodyguards. who needs the real thing?Ed you said it best, so I do not have to call you a "sloanaholic"I
smell something fishy and it is not what "the Rock has cookin"
Yes Doug,Todd is a "veteran" of his oops I mean these boards.He reigns supreme and he is always "fair" and "accurate" but never
negative.Todd you are delusional windbag on here and everyone knows
it.Good comments Doug. There was absolutely nothing wrong with what
you said.Nothing that is unless your name is Todd. Then there is
always something wrong.
If lebron james played for the utah jazz all of you would wouldnt care about a
travel. why dont you worry about your poing guard trying to guard jennings
tonight. especially if its williams.
We need 100% focus from everyone tonite,otherwize there`s gonna be alot of
dissapointed Jazz fans tomorrow,need to share the ball and play
defense...pretend you`re playing the Lakers or Cavs...
I was just reading comments on a Cleavland Newspaper article, and all the fans
there kept commenting that Sloan out coached Brown and it was Sloan's great
coaching, proper use of the clock, proper use of players and proper use of
time-outs that allowed the Jazz to have the chance to win. Funny you can come to
D-news and see the opposite reaction from Jazz fans. And "Invisible
Man" LeBron's step back 3 was not a travel. You are allowed 2 steps without
dribbling, doesn't matter if it's 2 steps toward the rim (going in for a dunk or
lay-up) or 2 steps away from the rim, the rule is two steps. LeBron only took
one step. This was not a case of the refs looking the other way, in
an effort to give the win to the Cavs. The refs aren't all out to get our team,
and they're not all out to give LeBron anything he wants. Perhaps he will get
the benefit of the doubt in a lot of situations, but nothing so obvious as that.
Doug-I hope you keep posting. Although I wish Fes would get to play and I
think AK was treated badly a few years ago, I could be called a Sloanaholic.
The constant negative stuff on this board gets a little tedious. We know a
number of writers want Sloan fired.....and some of us disagree. Your comments
have added some balance.
Hey Jazz Cop... I dont know if you realized but they are on a 3 game winning
streak? Its not just that magical moment they are riding on! Sure they were
down! The Lakers lost 3 of 4... are they all the sudden a bad team? They have
their problems but they arent a bad team.. they were in a slump.. they have
worked hard to get out of it and are playing good basketball!
So, the jazz had a magical moment, does that suddenly make them a "good" team?
The fans will get carried away believing that, but the players and coaches
should know better. You can't overlook how much we've struggled. The magic
moment is a good sign, but its not a cure for the reasons that the jazz aren't
better than they really are. I don't think there's many people in the
orginization who will want to push that magical moment further, measures can be
taken, but if history is any indication, we'll see the jazz relapse tonight,
they're going to come out like they're too good to have to get up for a game
against milwaukee at home, and then after the jazz embarass themselves, i'll
humiliate the players even more by pointing out everything they did that was
wrong. even doug might say something negative about sloan, so you know,
miracles happen everyday, nothing to get excited about.
Can't wait to see Korver's game when his knee heals all the way! He brings it
with every ounce of strength he has. Korver is a hustle player. He knows how to
pass the ball! He gives it all he's got when he's on the floor! He is a great
leader! The fans love him and ticket sales should improve now that he's playing
Game should not have come down to last shot if the Jazz could make their free
throws. James gets away with playing football on the court. It's a disgrace to
the league. Tonight the Jazz blow out the Bucks.
I'am predicting a loss in the 1st round of the playoffs like always unless Sloan
starts using the bigs now to get them ready. When you go to the playoffs you
better go big or stay home. Especially if you piddle around during the season
trying to make small ball work and go in as the 8th seed against a taller longer
Lakers team. By the way the Lakers brought in Kareem to tudor Bynum the last few
years and Phil Jackson saw the importance of giving Bynum playing time to bring
him along. 10-20 minutes a night. Fes's rooky year he out played Bynum when we
beat the Lakers. ( Fes got a chance to play only because of injuries.)B.R.
Great feat for the new kid! Terrific game for the guy with a gimpy leg too! He
plays like crazy even when his shots don't go in the hole. Korver brings it off
the bench! He plays smart ball! A great game overall for everyone! Way to go
Who says the Jazz don't have heart? There was plenty of heart Thursday night.
What a show. The team did not give up. Everyone of them hung in there to the
end. Nice to see Korver get some respect. He was awesome. Also fun to see the
new kid realize his dream. Here's hoping they can keep up their energy over the
next few games. Keep it going guys!
The JAZZ will have a great game tonight and roll to an easy victory, thats the
way Basketball works the Bucks are missing their top scoreer in Redd and they
will play good in the first half down by 8 or 10, then the energy of the Jazz
fans will wear them down. Thats the way it will happen they will ride the win
the other night, I predict a 27 point victory.well it could happen
that way?And on stopping Lebron James in the 4th he does it all the
time its not a Jazz thing, well when he traveled to hit that step back three
pointer after he missed his free throw, yea that giant step back without
dribbling well that was a travel and that is one thing that makes him good is
only a few players are allowed to do that and not get it called.
You have some good points. Mo Williams is just better and more experienced than
either of the Jazz combo guards. Sloan did put Price in and that helped. Double teaming James would have left others open for 3s and cuts to the
basket. About the only way to stop James was to foul him before he could shoot.
That has it's own set of risks.
Doug, I respect people that have good logical takes, and that is why I miss
Magnus even though like you he "was a Sloanaholic"You are not a
veteran of these boards. You can say what you want. However, this defending of
everything the Jazz do, everything Jerry, Kevin do it is with such vigor, I
cannot help but wonder is there something in this for you?Sorry,
that is my opinion. It does not mean one has to be always negative. I have
been fair. I said O COnnor does a great job with "undrafted players". Heck, i
even thought the 3 guys we cut that played In England were not bums either.
Brandon Jennings will be worth the price of admission and Andrew returns to
Utah. Looking forward with eager anticipation of a fun night of NBA and high
entertainment, for those of you going have a great time....
JB too bad you are not a familiar with the NBA. Perhaps your rosy idea of
stopping LeBron in the fourth is something you should share with the other teams
in the league. Charles Barkley is also out to lunch as he played for years and
he said that LeBron is unstoppable in the 4th qtr. Not sure about your
statement of making a few adjustments and overcoming James.Mr.
Anonymous you are predicting a let down. Is that because you cannot live in the
moment? The Jazz just came back on the team with the best record in the east
and they did it with style with all people contributing, some outstanding and
you predict a let down. How about a predicting a loss in the 1st or 2nd round
of the playoffs.The Jazz just enjoyed one of the best wins of the
past 3 seasons and it should be enjoyed up til the tip off of their next game.
Change your name to Eyore or chicken little.
I have been hard on this guy (korver) great game and heart, and I apologize to
all his fans. I am not completely sold on him, but if he keeps it up I am in.
great game and hustle Korver.
Loved that game...however, I predict a let down tonight
great win & unbelievable shots by Gaines & Korver but we shouldn't have even
been in that situation if Sloan could make a few adjustments. He was willing to
just sit back & watch James torch us down the stretch & not double him. Also Mo
was taking our point guards to school on the defensive end. How about a pick on
the ball or screen roll to help our points out a little.
I agree! That was missed by many and made the electrifying shot by Gaines
possible.Also, kudos to KOC and Sloan for making the call to get
Much has been said about Gaine's winning shot, but let's give credit to the
extremely difficult shot Korver nailed over the backboard to set that up!
thats what the utah jazz is all About, giving the unknown player a shot at
glory, and the jazz has been and still is the only team in the nba that teaches
honor and character, which is all but gone anywhere.
Sweet Win, now hopefully it can be backed up with a win against the Bucks!