Water, food are the top needs; churches being used for shelter
It's nice to hear that the Church was ready to go. And what a blessing that the
church has supplies close to the disaster.
There are several Christian groups that have a active prescence in Haiti, The
Salvation Army and The Cross international,along with the donations of Mormons
and Muslim charities, the response should be great. The Salvation Army has a
history of working with Muslims,I don't know about any history with Mormons.
Hopefully this aid can get to those who need it in a timely fashion. With
buildings crashed and roads destroyed, and people trapped inside buildings even
getting aid to people will at times prove difficult.
It's a blessing that there were no missionaries in danger or injured. The
building standards of LDS chaples is a God sent for these poor people. How
wonderful it is to see the world work together and help this country and their
I love how prepared the LDS church is for disasters and how it doesn't seem to
matter whether or not the people they help are members of their church or not. I
have been to their humanitarian aid center and they tirelessly work to prepare
for disasters such as this one I wondered if all the work was worth it but at
moments like this you know it is
Its phenomenal That all missionaries were protected and that even the meeting
house were spared. It does show the the lord protect his faithful saints and
also afirm the truthful and sacredness of the restoration.
What do they need, ?& What can we do?
right because god cares more about Mormon missionaries then the Haitian people.
I realize that is not what you mean but please be more careful what you say
Way to go "Church of Jeses Christ of Latter Day Saints" commonly known as the
"Mormon Church" . I am so proud to be a member of this Christian church. Also of
the human race of good people who step up to the responsability to help in any
way they can when a disaster happens.Loveing one another and looking out
for the poor and needy, injured and destitute, in so many ways is the way of
Jesus Christ. May God bless all involved.I hope that this tragity can bring
peace to all the world and put a smile on the face of GOD.
@DENIS AND WENDY, Perhaps your time would be better spent in actually DOING
something to help out rather than writing lame, pathetic comments like
these....and yes, I HAVE made a donation. Have you?
A in LA, I'm glad you made your donations. I have donated all my life to the
LDS Church Welfare fund through my Fast Offerings. I have added extra when
asked (Katrina, etc). I'm glad that these donations that I have made all
through my life are being used to help these people. So don't act so self
righteous because you donated once.To hear the Missionaries are
fine, and the church buildings are fine is also good. That gives the Church
places to help not only the members, but everyone else who comes for help.
No, there are no strings attached to the aid provided by the LDS Church, unlike
many government programs. I sincerely hope you never have to endure a natural
disaster of this magnitude. It's hard to be sarcastic when you are relying on
the kindness of others.
I'm gald they removed your post.
What a blessing it is to have these resources available. A in LA:
Don't be so judgemental...Those on this board heralding the fact that the
missionaries are safe and the meeting houses were spared are grateful that it
means that there are more hands to help, and places to organize, administer,
minister, and store. No, God doesn't love any one child more than another, but
it is possible that through the misfortune of natural disaster or calamity, he
provides a way for His children to be taken care of by their brother/sister.
Mike: Like you I have tried throughout my life to observe an honest
fast and donate a generous fast offering. The past 10 years of so I have been
in a position to donate 10 times what I had the first 10 years of my marriage.
Hundreds of millions of dollars are collected annually through the LDS Church
for these such purposes. Shame on the naysayers, and shame on the
criticizers...this is the Lord's way.What a great blessing to have
so many groups working together. SalvationArmy, Muslim relief, RedCross,
LDSHumanitarianAid, and other religious groups...this is the Lord's Way!
Christian,Pastors,lay people and workers have been involved with the people of
Haiti for a couple hunderd years. The aid from The Mormons and Muslims is
wonderful. Medical supplies have always been a problem.
MIKE -You have no idea how many times or the amounts I hae donated "all my
life". I am a member of the Church and have donated faithfully through them and
others "all my life". I did not wait to be "asked" for extra donations during
Katrina before I donated. Pehaps you are just a bit self righteous
yourself...what's that about a beam in our own eye.....
Guys, knock of the arguing and snide comments, this is not about you and what
you have and haven't done. You ought to know better as Church members to
recognize that this is a time for us to come together especially if we have the
financial resources to help out in the dreadful situation. Keep it to a higher
level, and think about the people in need. As an LDS Church member I find
arguing among ourselves in a public forum distasteful and unnecessary.
I would appreciate an explanation from the censor as to why my previous
submittal was not posted. I was attempting to let all know that there are those
who will troll (i.e. those who misrepresent themselves by posting comments with
the intent to shed a bad light on the Church or its members). I was trying to
help others to not attribute such posts as being representative of the general
membership of the Church, or the Church itself. It is frustrating that those
who submit comments to incite get posted, but not posts from someone trying to
call them out. Thanks.
To the 7:41 commentor, Since ALL LDS missionaries in Haiti are
Haitians, you are creating a false diachotomy in your comment. Beyound
this, what Denis was saying is that it is good for people that the LDS Chapels
are well built and were not destroyed. Did you even read the article? There
are 500-600 people sheldtered in the chapels, and it appears they belong to many
religions. With so many other buildings falling, it is good to have some
that are in good shape. I am sure there are other well built buildings
that stood. However, for the 500-600 people mentioned above, they only care
that the building they are in is a safe place during the aftershocks.
Helping people is not a zero sum game.
To MikeC, Your issue is actually not with AinLA but with the commetor
under the name @Denis. AinLA was not responding to Denis, but to @Denis. I think it might help if we rethought the tone of our comments. I am glad
that the DN moderators have removed some of the most inflamatory ones. Since I
did not actually read Wendy's comment, I am only guessing about its content, but
I think if it was still present AinLA's point would be more clear and his tone
would be even less surprising. It is truly a difficult thing, and I fail
as much if not more than most people, but we need to try to not let others
hatred rub onto us. A soft answer turneth away wrath.
To H in Boise, I have a friend named H. On to more pertinant
things. I think it would help if you used the term moderator. If you
really want to help people engage in more civil conversations, than use terms
that exude civility. Another possible term is monitor. I suggest this
one because they say they monitor comments. However, moderator is the normal
term. Internet forums have rules. Your participation is conditioned on
your obeying of the rules. The moderator makes sure rules are followed.
However, the Desnews does not promise to post all comments. The first four
listed categories for exclusion are very arbitrary. I would argue that
the hardest to enforce is the rule on misrepresentative comments. This would
cover comments in which people lie about their identity, or in which they favor
a policy opposite what they believe in to try and discredit their opponants by
making them seem more extreme than they really are. Due to the open nature of
postings, this is hard to detect. It also covers the use of a posting
name in a way to suggest you are a different commentor. However with no
registration this is impossible to prove.
What I mean by impossible to prove is not so much it is unclear who posted a
given comment. This is at times ambiguous, at least to someone other than the
actual users of a name. However, it is impossible to prove in many cases
intent to decieve, and in fact intent can only be demonstrated when the posing
poster directly uses another name. With my name it is not as clear a case
of identity ambiguity as some. However there are regular posters who use
the names pagan, realitycheck and cats. There have been cases of other people
using all three of these names, but it is hard to prove that the other uses
intentionally stole the moniker, as opposed to having independently come to use
it and not realized that it was already a commonly used one.
how can you people argue after all this tragedy? time to come together, people!
The article about the Haitian student attending BYU mentions that her family
there was staying in an LDS Stake Center which they had to evacuate from because
the Stake Center fell down as a result of aftershocks. This seems to contradict
the statement that all the LDS chapels are okay. Which is true?
Where is the Christian in us? Instead I'm reading bickering over the
inconsequential when Haiti is experiencing - and has always experienced - a life
of abject poverty, with little voice or hope, far removed from any of us. We
should be thanking the Lord for our blessings and sharing our thoughts and
prayers and resources for and with those most in need.
It is very gratifying to see people overcome man made barriers to assist each
other as children of God. I am humbled by the gospel in action.
Come together right now. (beatles song).
Having attended a ward in New York that was roughly half Haitian, I can testify
of the humility and dedication of many of the Haitian members. They have a
great deal of faith in God. The Haitian people have suffered much yet I believe
that out of this adversity will come a better future for the Haitian people.
They are strong people.
I'm grateful for the Humanitarian Aide the church provides in times like these.
I'm most grateful that the assistance is well thought out as well. They can
bring relief all the faster.
Greg Mortenson's "Stones into Schools" talks, in part, about the devastation of
a recent earthquake in Pakistan. The book really helped me have a better idea
of what surviving something like this means to families and individuals. It
helped me understand a little better what people might need, and the challenges
involved in delivering aid to remote places. After having read it, I had to
donate to Haiti. I chose "Feed the Poor" to donate through, as they are already
there, and 97% of what you donate actually ends up reaching the people.
Aparently, the LDS Church has a cooperative relationship with "Feed the Poor",
"A in LA" clearly has an attitude and it isn't a good one.Chill!
I find it disturbing that people are more proud of the LDS church then they
express concern for the dead and displaced. I find this very telling of the
current mormon culture. Very sad.
@Gayle Jacobson 2:53 - I find it distrubing that, no matter what the story is,
no matter who is involved, someone, somehow finds a way of kicking the LDS
Church and its members in the teeth. In their view, nothing the LDS Church or
its members do is good enough. Very sad.
Wow, I just wasted 3 good minutes reading these posts, most of which were
pointless. And, come on guys, if you wand to sound smart at least check your
spelling before you post.
Gayle, you don't get it. People are grateful that the organization they donate
money to, is able to quickly help those who are suffering in Haiti. Most of us
cannot go there ourselves and all we can really do to help, is to donate our
money. We are ever so grateful to have a means of helping those brothers and
sisters of ours who are so far away and suffering so greatly. Before you jump
to conclusions, we believe all mankind are our brothers and sisters, not just
those who are members or our church. In addition to donating money, we do ask
the Lord's help for our brothers and sisters in Haiti. It is all we can do.
Our thought and prayers are with the peoples of Haiti and their families.I am
saddened by the contention on this site and on the wasted thoughts and words.
May we each find the time to ask Our Father in Heaven to comfort those in need
of comfort, guide those who are in leadership both within government,churches
and organizations.May we be ever grateful for the blessing we have and for the
direction we are given to be prepared.Is your 72 hour kit complete and do you
ave a spare packed for someone else in need? May you feel the comfort and love
of our Savior Jesus Christ,and do the right thing regardless of how much you
have already done.Let there be Peace on Earth and let it begin with me.
I find it incredible, from what I understand, that the LDS Church has donated
more to this relief effort than the governments of Iran, Venezuela, China,
Russia, and Saudi Arabia combined. Expressing one's pride in the fact the
LDS Church is exceptionally well organized, when it comes to aiding people in
disasters, is no sin. It's a pat on the back to the hundreds--if not
thousands--of people who work to amass the supplies, warehouse them, and ship
them to their destinations and intended recipients. Let's not forget the
individuals and vendors who provide the materiel in the first place. To
express gratitude that LDS Missionaries are safe is no sin. I believe the same
people would express sorrow over the loss of Missionaries of other faiths, as
well (which there sadly have been). We are all Children of our Heavenly Father.
I hope someone with authority and technical savvy will delete ALL these
Who cares which church, insitution, organization or country contributes the most
or least to assist and help Haiti; what matters is humanitarian support. There
will be many lessons learned from this catasphrophe; perhaps those contentious
here may like to start learning about false pride. I think it is wonderful that
the Church is well organized and knowing exactly where to go to start aiding.
OH BTW ... hey JPL, nice to see you on here.
I appreciated this article with its update on the church's response to the
disaster. I hope another is forthcoming as the situation changes. I hadn't
noticed before today, that there is a separate line on the tithing receipt that
reads "humanitarian aid" in addition to tithing and fast offerings. I put my
donation in that today. I know the red cross works closely with the church and
some of its leadership are members so I imagine donating to the church's HA
branch will have very direct, effective, immediate results.
It is gratifying to know that all of my small donation in Brisbane Australia is
helping those in difficulty whom I have not seen. Don't knock it. One day our
donations may help you. Are you ready for your own disaster? Possibly you will
need some of my donation. I will give annonomously & freely.
99% of the aid that the LDS church gives all year, all over the world to members
and non-members, is anonymous. It is amazing that when its actions are made
public that some people just have to find fault. I don't think the Haitians care
where the help is coming from, why should we?Thanks to millions of
LDS members worldwide who donate time and money (all year long, not just in a
crisis), the church is in a position to help. Many of these donations come from
people who are scarcely better off then those receiving the aid.I
doubt the Haitians care whether the intentions of the givers are self righteous
The Haitian tragedy is devastating and a reminder to all of us to be prepared
for ourselves and to help our brothers and sisters wherever they might be.I'm thankful to the church for their ever ready preparedness and quick
response. I am also grateful that there are so many good people who are also
looking for ways to respond. It certainly takes our hearts away from our own
challenges. It is interesrting that the church is sending water
filtration bottles instead of water. That kind of goes along with the quotation
"Give a man a fish, feed him for a day. Teach a man to fish feed him for a
lifetime." Now they will have water forevermore. Too bad we cannot do that
with food and medical supplies.
FIco feliz em saber que o Reino do Senhor aqui na Terra pode ajudar essas almas
que tanto sofrem...Amo essa Igreja!!!
I appreciate the comments that stick to the situation rather than reverting to
their own self. Seems like a site like this shouldn't be about pushing and
shoving one's way to the front.
While reading your posts......a scripture came to mind. It goes a little
something like this. 3 Ne. 11: 29- For verily, verily I say unto
you, he that hath the spirit of contention is not of me, but is of the devil,
who is the father of contention, and he stirreth up the hearts of men to contend
with anger, one with another. Just sayin! Think about it before you
try to engage in a battle of the tongues......or keystrokes!
We have given the little dollars we can (no income at this time) and want to
send many needed items to Haiti: sheets, towels, clothing, unopened painkiller
medication & antibacterial ointment, tent, water filtering bottles, batteries,
flashlights, etc. Can you connect us with a distribution network? Thanks.
The Haitian Tragedy is so diverstating, we pray that the Lord helps them through
this difficulty time, am happy to be an LDS member and to show my concern and
hand in my donation. May the Lord help you through remember that faithful giving
makes real receiving possible. God bless you all!!