Sore wrist doesn't slow Williams down at all in The Big D
This win proves one thing only:That the Jazz are becoming a
CONSISTENT defensive team. By the numbers (which really tell "most" of the
story), the Jazz this year are a good/average defensive team and an average
offensive team. As compared to us being a Great offensive team last year, while
being an average/poor defensive team.Korver is going to make a huge
difference as he gets more time.
Lets see Hilton Armstrong for that reason as of today now with Sacramento,
Brendan Haywood being looked at by Denver and PortlandO Connor loves
this exact group..
Back to Fes getting more time. Sloan is trying to win with the lineups he puts
on the floor but he needs to plan some for the future. Like I said earlier, the
Jazz need someone besides Okur,Booz,Milsap, to complete against the Lakers,
Celts, Magic, Cavs, etc. The bigs on those teams are too big,long,tall &
athletic for our bigs. We need Fes and KK to develope so they can be on the
floor when we need them in the playoffs (if we make it).
Re Mathews; I agree with alot of what you say. I love seeing Wes play D, he
moves his feet and he fights to get thru screens etc. He hustles. With his
scoring being as good as it has been, it's hard not to agree with those who
think he should be playing ahead of CJ. I'm a big CJ fan BUT my hopes and
patients are wearing thin. Obviously Sloan likes something CJ brings to the
table. CJ is long and athletic and passes pretty good, he opens up the floor,
play with patients and looks to Sloans main offensive weapons (Booz. Okur,
Dwill, MIlsap etc) and maybe they see what CJ can do in practice.Sloan has
been playing it pretty good as far as giving time to the player who is playing
well. If CJ isn't playing well to start the game, then Mathews or Korver have
been getting the minutes.I agree with the posts that say AK should get
more minutes too, proof is in the pooding (stats).Somehow we have to get
Sloan to see he needs to play Fes more.
Matthews is the highest rated defender the Jazz have for one simple reason--he
keeps his man in front of him most of the time and he fights through screens as
well as anyone.The other perimeter pansies on this team go under the
screens too often which lets the ball handler get loose and either has an open
shot or abuses our steel curtain of defense Okur and Boozer as they scream ole'
as they escort them the rest of the way down the lane for a layup.If
we had guys stay in front of them men our interior D would not look so bad every
night.Matthew is one of the players who makes a difference even when
he is not piling up stats because he makes his man shoot tough jumpers by simply
staying in front of him and not letting him penetrate.Where does
that stat show up? Only in missed shots which is what he causes defenses to do.
Strangely though Miles think CJ jacking up 14 shots in 20 minutes looks better
on the stat sheet.
Glad to see that Dr. Jekyll of the Jazz showed up for the game instead of Mr.
Hyde. Who's next?
Michael has it right. Unlike many fans, he watches defense. The Jazz are very
good when they play team defense. When they don't, almost anybody can beat
them. Overall I like the Jazz right now. I have to give kudos to Boozer. He
has improved a ton on defense. He still stays home too much, but compared with
the past, when he was one of the worst defensive power forwards in the NBA, he
is fine. I thought Williams would cut down on his turnovers this year, and I
was hoping that Price also would get more minutes and learn to play under
control. These improvements are being made in baby steps -- such small baby
steps that the Jazz appear headed to a first-round matchup with the Lakers at
best. Here's hoping that Deron has finally figured out that gambling with the
ball is not worth it. AJ has cut down on his stupid turnovers, and now it's
DWill's turn. At that point, and if the team continues to play team ball when
they're behind in the fourth quarter, I think the second half of the season will
be far superior.
Your right about Matthews. But don't think for one minute that CJ has or will be
the answer. He has so much talent and wastes it. Not impressed and he is NOT a
starter. AK needs to be in there starting. Look at +/- stats....I can't believe
you are comparing Matthews and CJ--that is a joke as neither a difference
@Fedor: I can't stop laughing. If Matthews had 5 more minutes he would have
hauled in two more rebounds. News bulletin: Matthews had zero
rebounds, zero assists, zero steals. I am sure another 5 minutes would have
made a huge difference!! Oh and by the way, CJ had two rebounds. He averages
more rebounds, assists, steals and blocks than Matthews.Let's see,
Okur, Boozer and Millsap all shot less than 50%. So they must need their
minutes cut too?
People! You can play loose, hang loose, be loose, have a rope loosely around
you neck.You cannot, however, loose a ball game. Please get it right!!
(Sorry, pet peeve).NIce game Jazz. As I said the other day where is
Miles. He should be telling us how great Miles is and how he is the key to our
team. Some consistency from all would be nice!
stay with the green ditch the light blue
Agree with "finally." It starts with Deron. He has to take charge like CP3 does
for NO. He is in the top five point guard category but this is changing people.
Let's get it done Deron, every night....
AK does need more minutes....+/- doesn't lie.
Great win.....I agree with "finally." DWill needs to take charge of this team.
Defeating Dallas means nothing. They were without some key players. Even a
bling squirrel can find an acorn once in a while. Remember what happened to the
Mavericks in the playoffs last year? You could see it in the eyes and the body
language of the Mavs last night. They did not have it. Typically, the Jazz do
not hit shots as they did for once. The game based on history would have gone
the other way. What is retrospectively more of a lingering concern is why the
Jazz cannot steamroll the Timberwolves/Grizzlies/Clippers/Kings and most of the
eastern conference teams that they continue to lose to year in a year out. This
would seem to validate my contention that the Jazz are not a "good" team. They
are a collection of players who cannot put aside their individual and collective
egos/agendas and just play smart. This is what is troubling to me. They bury
themselves with stupid passing, ball hogging and passive defensive play.
Nevertheless, they can come up with a win here and there over teams who are
roster depleted, but better more athletic than they are once in awhile.I still root for them.
This game prove what many of us already know....this is wildly inconsistent team
who choose when to assert talent and when to hold back. Game like this make
loss to Memphis, losses to Wolves and Kings at home twice as frustrate. I give
Jazz credit, you must play hard and well to win at Mavs....but where is that
same effort every game? CJ shot less than 50%, 2 Reb and no assists. Wes
Matthews scored 10 in five less minutes of play, and probably could have hauled
in rebound or or two and get dime if he had those 5 extra minutes. To Jerry
Sloan: Wake up and smell the stink coming from CJ. He is head case, can't
handle spotlight, can't handle pressure, he is just bad player. It will be
interesting to see if Jazz can get back to back win against DWade and Heat on
Monday. We only score 70 in their house last time. 70 POINTS!!!!! Sad, let's
make it two Utah Jazz.
It seems everyone agrees that ak needs more minutes, so what's the argument for
not starting him? As I've said, I think he needs to be out there with the
starters, the jazz aren't so strong that they can afford to use ak the way they
are. Especially when ak47 is playing like the last three games, he should be
providing support for that first unit, which tends to go cold less often with
him. As i mentioned identity before, the jazz identity is they are
soft, they stood around and thats what happens to teams that stand around. It's
true for every team that has an identity that when they play within that concept
they win. The jazz/sloan identity has always been they are a tough out,
predicated on hustle play and defensive effort; lots of rebounds and second
chance points. The last three games have been fun to watch, because this is our
jazz team playing into their identity. I just want to leave with the point that
I think teams have to work for their identities, they earn them, and they have
to maintain them-otherwise, they become mediocre.
Re:scodyshootfightDespite the fact that you make a good point and
have history on your said. I do think that one reason you might be wrong is the
jazz have improved their defense, and continued improvement (like dwill not
being lazy?), means a different team.I agree, the jazz have played as you
said; and I don't think it will take much laziness and before you know it, the
jazz are a wreck again, we've seen it too many times. I think memo, booz,
dwill, ak, brewer, miles, anyone getting alot of minutes can mess things up by
not playing hustle ball and team ball. Then, you will be right.The fans
aren't excited to see the jazz get into shootouts with teams, either. We'd
rather watch the kind of games like last night, and the two previous games; see
that the defensive effort is there and hope the offense comes around. But if
the jazz are going to change their identity, they need to get hard, and it
starts with d. You must agree, if they keep it up (like the last three games),
they can fight out of their medicroity.
I love it any time any team beats Dallas and Mark Cubin! More so when the Jazzz
...Deron stops walking the ball up the floor!!...Deron starts the
offense before 9 seconds left on the shot clock....Deron stops
making careless bonehead passes.Gets his team mates more
involved.What do you know?A win!!!I hope it
sticks. Mabe he did learn something watching from the sidelines.ANDREI KIRILENKOWhen he gets 30 minutes he thrives and the team
gets ALOT better. Less than 30 he doesn't and the TEAM SUFFERS.Bench whoever you have to because there is nobody on the team that can do as
many things as AK can when he gets his 30 minutes.
Dampier played 29 minutes,2 points/13 boards,Fes should have been matched
against him for at least 20 minutes.He`d learn more from playing against this
vet than he will in 5 years of practice,who does he practice against?
Koufos,Memo? Boozer would probably teach him the most around the basket,but he
needs to play when we`re matched up against the big plodding centers and Dampier
is the perfect example,Gasol(Marc) is another
So called "fans" that wanted to see williams traded after the jazz beat memphis
AT HOME. We sure didnt need williams last night wink wink..come on fans.I laugh
at your stupidity.
I agree that Sloan has been wasting Kirilenko and, in my opinion, benches him
more out of some personal vindictiveness than how well AK is playing.Kirilenko does do everything, and he regularly leads the Jazz in +/- rankings.
Even when his shot is off, his defense is more than making up for it. Sloan has probably "figured it out" that AK gets us wins, but he plays him low
minutes because Sloan is about Sloan. It is a disservice to us, the fans.
Oh yeah, I forgot to mention that their history makes it hard to get excited
about this win, because you and I both know that after a few quality W's do
come, they're going to slide back in to selfishness and mediocrity. I hope I'm
wrong, but the history tells us that we need to brace ourselves.
This win does NOT change my opinion of the team. It just shows who they really
are and who they've been for the last year or so. They play hard for a few
games and get a couple of wins against quality teams, and then relax, get
selfish, look for their own stats, and play with no heart.That's
what history tells us with this group of players. Check out the Boozer quote:
"We need to get going,and play like this every night. ... That's what Coach
(Sloan) just talked about: We need to bring this kind of intensity every
night."Really? Coach Sloan needs to TELL you to bring intnesity
every night? That's why I haven't been able to stand the team. They can't
motivate themselves to bring intensity every night. They usually need to get
embarrassed in order to get motivated.
Ak has been good in mem and dal. I think he should be starting, no doubt. I
don't think the jazz are such a good team that they can afford to have ak come
off the bench. Him and millsap play well together, it was a good combo that
sloan stuck with down the stretch. The player who needs to pick it up,
dwill. He was great on offense, on defense, his rotations almost through the
jazz into a defensive funk. At this time, he needs to pick it up because his
defense looks lazy. I thought his rotations kind of threw brewer off, and it
looked like the jazz were about to go into scramble mode, but we're lucky it
stopped there. Honestly, i can't say dwill gave it his all on defense, I think
everone else did, though, 4 out of 5 playing hustle ball is an improvement, it
won't be enough down the stretch. It just takes one player to be lazy, and this
team will crumble, we've seen it too many times, its too bad to see dwill taking
it lightly on defense, with so much at stake?
AK should get more time. He really impacts the game in a winning way.He
does everything and pass the ball better than anybody.
Good to see Deron back... and look what happens, the Jazz win on the road
against a division (southwest) leader no less. If only the Jazz could make a
habit of it.
Nice win against a good Mavs team. Chuck and CL, I agree with your comments
about matchups. We got away with Loozer and Memo playing big minutes against the
Mavs, but we need Fes against the Lakers and other elite teams. I agree with
what you said about Sloan and young players CL. Sloan didn't give Deshawn
Stevenson time to develop. Look what he did with D-Will his first season. He
started Macleod and Palacio in front of Deron. Give me a break, Jerry!
Calgary Jazz sez, "when will sloan figure it out. More minutes for AK on the
floor = better chances to win."Brilliant. Does it occur to CJazz
that less minutes to AK are due to his not playing well, and not because Sloan
hasn't got it figured out? When he plays well, he gets minutes.What's so hard
about that?Who did Sloan play hard a few years ago when all the big
dogs were hurt or gone and who became an All-Star? AK. What did AK get? A fat
contract. What did the Jazz get? A guy who plays gutsy one game and like a ghost
the next. The problem CJazz isn't that Sloan hasn't gotten it
figured out, it is that he indeed does have it figured out--AK plays for AK most
of the time.
Dougy,Hey How's Magna? Yes Douglas we did win with sloan and
without Fess. Did you see the Memphis game where Fess came in while the Jazz
erased a 19 point deficit in the first half? Then in the second he
didn't get in to shut down the paint and Randolf joined a long list of players
to get a season high while sending us to an embarassing loss?
They finally played an uptempo run and gun offense instead of the slow down half
court Sloan game that everyone in the league knows is quickly stopped by a zone
defense. Trade Sloan, keep everyone else.
Let's give Korver his kudos. He played great tonight. To those looking to trade
him, I'm not ready to give him up just yet.He's played hurt for most
of the time he's been with the Jazz. Unlike others, he just hasn't made a big
deal of it. Now that it looks like he's healthy, I want to see what he can
really do.To Chuck Nunn, great comments all around. I too hope
Fesenko starts to get more minutes. If the Jazz make the playoffs they are going
to need his big body.
Re Doug: You make some good points but I still think Sloan can play Fes more
than he does, so he can get experience and learn. The Jazz need his defensive
presence and although he makes mistakes he still has a high +-. Sloan wants to
win so bad he doesn't play young players enough, and he is negative with them
when he does play them. If the Jazz are to improve and make a move up into the
elite teams of the league, they need someone in the middle. Someone who can
handle the big,tall,long players of LA,Boston,Orlando,Clev,. Booz, Okur, &
Milsap can't handle them. We have the players necessary if Sloan will develope
them.Your right CJ and Korver are questionalbe as the go to guys we need.
Korver looks like he has been working hare on his shot but his athletism
/defense is problematic, even though he makes up for it somewhat with smart
play. CJ is the one I have been hoping would be the one to step up and be
consistant and the scorer/go to guy DWill needs as a partner. So far that isn't
working to well.
AK plays 30 min, gets best +/- ranking and Jazz win. When will Sloan figure it
out - more minutes for AK on the floor = better chances to win.
Chuck when Korver plays good it is a joy to watch...sadly though he shoots
a very poor percentage as in lower than Okur. He also loves to pass in pressure
situations ie last night and in the Laker playoff series last year. We need
people to step up and make the shots. He and Cj are really questionable.
Hopefull both will be involved in a trade.Todd in practice is the
best place for Fes to be in a rotation. He has a big body and if he could be
trusted to make NBA decisions he would play in the games more. Till he can make
those decisions he is an NCCA level player in an NBA league...as in not quite
ready yet.Those who are ready get to play...sad to say some are
ready to play but can't score regualarly ...sorry CJ.This team
continues to surprise me who they can beat.
Wow great game! I got to tell ya I kept waiting 4 the melt down late into the
last quarter, but it didn't happen. I am not complaining, but it sure looks like
players are stepping it up either to save their jobs or just in case there is a
trade. Again great game and the last 2 games great defense. Chuck: I
agree that this game plan worked on the Mav's, but the Lakers they better come
with some size.
DWill is to this team...Glad he will play at less than 100%
Re Chuck: Pretty much right on.
In regards to Gaines : The Jazz need 13 players on the roster, so if the like
how he has played and how he practices they will probably keep him.So far
I like what I see, he plays good D, pushes the ball up the floor, hit his shot
tonight and it looked good (nervous and rushing first couple of games) scored
like 23.9 in the D league, he can score. Looks strong, quick, & tough. Play
maker and assist man yet to be determined. So far he looks pretty good.
and it's Sloan's fault.
I want you to still send the letter along with others to Greg. These are the
moments why Greg gets away with the status quo. Do not be fooled. When they do
this all the time (like the talent is capable of) we at worst should be a #4
seed with 1st round home court advantage, then the criticism will lessen.I am not cynical. I am of course happy to win. It will mean nothing if
we lay an egg to the Miami Heat.They seem to intimidate us. We
played scared against them.They do not have Shaq. We need to go in
theyr'e face and get a 10 point lead and not let up until the final buzzer ticks
I hate to say this but maybe DWIL resting for the last 2 games taking a break
from the pressure of the losing anf negativity was the best thing.He
seemed rejuvenated. The ball moved and was not stagnant. Doug,
Boozer is better than Millsap. We know that. When I talk trade, I always
mention Okur first. Far as Fes, I did not expect him to play much in this game.
The Mavs shoot a lot of jumpers.Still Fes needs to be in the
rotation.Further I am "CJ"D OUT"Let us get "sloan and
the sloanaholics" to put Matthews back in the starting lineup to set a defensive
mindset. Wes is capable of offense just lacks consistency.In
closing, wishing all of you a good night. However, I can say, we have made
"some road progress this season" we have only 7 wins but it is better, and some
of those such as at SPurs, and tonight.The problem is the home
court.Monday, we play a team I feel with average talent -Wade and
Beasley and an overrated, average coach, who I rate "behind SLoan"Traditionally, we struggle hard to beat them home or away
Well, Doug, don't think we're not out here, and don't think one game changes the
facts. I just happen to have a life away from basketball, but I'm here now. It
was a good win tonight, no question, but the Mavericks are a team that likes to
go small, so the usual small lineups Sloan goes with actually worked tonight.
But against about 28 other teams in this league, we need Fesenko to be in there
as Okur's backup. It was great to see AK and Korver play as well as
they did. When Andrei is active and gets a good amount of touches on the ball,
he and the Jazz do well, so no surprise there. Peace out from the
Good things happen when dwill doesn't turn the ball over more than 5
times...tonight he looked like an all star, moved the ball quickly and took care
of it. These are the only things need to improve on. However, Miles will always
be Miles(still don't like him) and I will always cheer for Matthews, even when
he has an off night(not tonight) cause he's a good player. Things didn't change,
just dwill improved...
Like all of you, I too am excited about this win. However, I will wait to see
what they do from here before I get the parade started. One good game does not
make the season a success. There is a lot of basketball left and they have to
have more games like tonight to give me something to really get excited about.
Having said that, win or loose, I will always be a Jazz fan!!!!! Remember, if it
wasn't for sports, there would be "No next year"!
Is Sundiata Gaines a legit PG ? haven't seen him play. What are the odds that he
will stick with the Jazz after the 10-day contract expires ?Sundiata?
interesting name. origin?
I will admit I am stunned. Never would have expected this based on history the
last 2 years, especially a back to back on the road yet.Last night,
I did say, maybe that loss will bring the club together if they could show the
same grit tonight.Shocking. Dallas came off a huge win in Spur
Land. Jason Kidd being allowed to go 3-3 on "3s" in the first
quarter worrisome, but luckily the Mavs went away from that.Matthews
and Korver, Kirilenko, Millsap all pretty good off the bench. I was not able to
see much of the game, but Korver is getting his stroke back and it is opening
nore things up. Brewer, Millsap among others seemed to have theyr'e way in the
paint.Ok CIty won as expected, so this was
critical to stay tied for 8th.Korver and Matthews need to continue
and take the minutes from CJ at this point. I am glad Kyle has come
on, because when he hits the outside jumpersm things open up and do not need
Boozer to score 20 plus. He struggled a lot tonight and we won, so good
As Boozer says, move the ball around and good things happen. If one guy holds on
too long bad things happen. Thank Goodness D Will listens! Go Jazz!
What an exciting game to watch! Just kept wondering when the Mavs would make
their move. Jazz kept it going in the 4th quarter thanks in part to Korver who
was rested in the lst half. Wow! Shots right on. What a beautiful sight. He
has the smoothest shot going! Can't get any better than Korver tonight. Makes
one wonder what Korver could have done had he played more! Williams gave his all
and AK finally got some good minutes and showed why he needs to start. Keep it
Saw the game, and Utah looked very impressive..DWill lead the team, the players
hustled, hit shotsBut..Dallas is a team that Utah plays very, very
well..teams with penetrating guards, players who really attack the basket, and
Utah's soft interior defense can beat make things very hard on the Jazz...very
I keep saying this in most of my posts, but the Jazz are playing much better
defense this year then last season (even in games where they lose like against
Memphis the night before). I think defense is the key. Offensively, before
tonight they had struggled a bit, but long term I don't see scoring points being
a problem. When the Jazz pass the ball around on offense and play unselfishly
they play so much better.The Heat have owned the Jazz though...they
are a tough, physical team. The Jazz had better come looking to match there
Where is the Jazz cop and other negative writers saying the Jazz do not have a
good team, we need to play Fez more and Boozer has to go?Great game
guys as in enjoyable to see you do well. String a few of these together and it
will be much more fun to read these columns.
Today they showed they can be a champion team, another day they will show they
are going into the lottery pick!!!!!Anyway, good job tonight,
as we always said: "keep it up" Though they never listened.
This is the most unpredictable team the Jazz has ever fielded. Who knows what
they're going to do on any given night?Am surprised that Deron was
able to play that well with his injured wrist. Matthews also solid, Booz came
on late, Korver was perfect. Memo was pooped, Miles ineffective, Jerry sat both
in second half. No wonder the man can't find a permanent, stable combination.
The Jazz seem to play better defense on the road than they do at home. Is this
just a lack of focus problem when they are at home, or is it the fact that they
think they can just go out and outscore teams?
Why can't they show this effort and play like this every night.Just
makes being a Jazz fan that more frustrating!
Way to go, Deron. Glad to see you not allowing your injury to keep you on the
bench for long. Hope you continue to heal but we do need your talent on the
floor. If Kobe can play with a fractured finger on his shooting hand, you can
play with a sore wrist. Even if you're not shooting much, we still need your
brain on the floor to run the offense. You're smart to know what you can and
cannot do. Good luck tonight! As of right now you're shooting 2 for 2. Good