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Doctor will charge patients a flat yearly fee for services

Published: Monday, Jan. 4 2010 12:00 a.m. MST

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LibertyAngel

This is great! More options for people to choose from is excellent. His fees are about the same as I am paying for my families insurance each year. There is discussion here in Utah about not taking part in the Federal Mandated Health care plan, and I hope that comes to pass! Anything the government is involved with becomes much worse. There is supplemental insurance that is not too much, AFLAC has some great options, some of the policies I have with them are less then $20 a month. They have a hospital plan and many others... a lot to think about.

No thanks, I will take what

the Democrats have to offer. In the future Obamacare will not be a bad word but a blessing.
What a great President!.

Anonymous

This is fine until you need x-rays or need to stay in the hospital. What happens when you need a specialist? Then you have a real problem!

K

A family of 4 would pay him $5,500 a year whethere they needed more than one visit or not. And xrays aren't covered? What about a mammogram?

Then there is the hospital, will he have privilleges at any?

Kristine

Anonymous

This scheme is only for the benefit of this doctor. It won't help the patient who needs outside services. I think this is essentially a scam if a patient thinks this scheme will meet their health insurance needs. This doctor is doomed to eventual failure.

Good plan for rich people

I understand why the doctor doesn't want to hassle with all the ridiculous paperwork required by the insurance companies, but his plan is not really a viable alternative for any but affluent and basically healthy patients (known as the "walking worried well").

Disillusioned

$1,800 per year. That's $150 per month. Holladay is quite a wealthier area of SLC. That is a lot more than I spend per year at my Primary care Physician. Sounds like the divide between the haves and the have nots is getting wider! If you can afford it, great! If not, suffer! What about emergencies? Nothing in this plan will care for you if your appendix need to come out or your leg gets broken! I applaud him for pushing insurers aside, their job increasingly is to deny services and claims. I'd also like to remind everyone that a majority of the US is for health care reform. Our country has the worst health care system in the world! I'm so tired of the cost, bankruptcy to people with or without insurance, change jars and fund raisers for people with medical needs. We don't do enough. Our teeth are shot, we have life long chronic illness and insurance and Dr. costs increase every year and gobble up our flat wages. I've given up even going to Dr's anymore. What a mess!

Mark

This is not a panacea, but it is a step in the right direction!

The biggest problem with our current healthcare system is the disconnect between payors and providers. Adding to the problem is that most of the people out there have no clue what their healthcare costs. People with employer-based plans don't realize that the employer just docks their pay up to $1000 a month to provide a health insurance "benefit."

It will be interesting to see what it would cost for a high deductible insurance to cover everything above and beyond what Dr. Jennings covers.

PAPERWORK

Well I would like to live my life without having to do paperwork too.
It seems like I spend half my time working, and the other half writing down what I did.
Certainly understand where the doctor is coming from.
Hope it works out for him.
Seems more expensive then just having health insurance however, do not know what the benefit is for patients.
As much as we would like it not to be health care is a business.

Fixed Up Today

My chiropractor, Dr. Watson, in Lehi only takes walk-ins and charges $30 per visit, no insurance needed, but who cares since my co-pay with insurance would be $30 anyway. And he's not one of those chiropractors that tells you that you must come three times a week forever. I try to go monthly.

Marks

The comparison to car insurance is stupid. When my car gets old enough that the monthly repairs are higher than payments, I junk the car and get a new one. Can't do that with grandpa, or with a son that has Crohn's...

livefree

Health care is not a right! It is a privilege. One in which is given for just compensation. So how much is your health worth? More than a nice car? a TV? The truth is that most people would rather skimp on health care and splurge on travel and entertainment. Subtract a car payment, cell phone, cable and internet and you should have enough for health care (whether through insurance or pay as you go).

KS

Your DC must be one of those that "cures" heart disease. cancer, tooth decay, etc, etc...
He's a "quack".

CHEAPER!!!!

MY DOCTOR, AARON HARTLE IN SPRINGVILLE DOES EXACTLY THE SAME THING FOR 35.00 a month AND HAS TWO LOCATIONS--ONE IN SPRINGVILLE AND ONE IN LINDON WITH A HEALTH CLUB MEMBERSHIP INCLUDED. THE NAME OF HIS CLINIC IN SPRINGVILLE IS THE PACE CLINIC. THE CLINIC IN LINDON IS CALLED NUCEA. ALL OFFICE PROCEDURES AND VISITS ARE FREE AFTER THE 35.00 PER MONTH. A FAMILY IS LESS. THIS GUY IS NUTS TO BE CHARGING SO MUCH!!!

The Twilight Zone

So a family a 5 would be $6,500 a year, which doesn't include X-Ray's or any kind of hospitalization should it be necessary. Yeah sure that's a deal. Good Luck!



Re: Livefree

Heath care should not be considered a privilage that only the wealthy can afford. There are so many of us out there who are living modestly within our means and still struggle to pay for our out of pocket expenses that we pay on top of our premiums. My family is young, my husband and I both graduated college and both work. I honestly think it is ridiculous how much we struggle with paying medical bills. This doctor is onto the right idea, its not perfect but it is a step in the right direction. If I were single, or if it were just my husband and I, we would consider something like this just to cover our yearly physical and doctor visits for minor issues.

More Economics

Non-profit is always going to be more expensive than for profit. The idea that profit makes things more expensive is just another myth that has resulted from ignorance of basic economics. The profit motive inspires & creates competition and provides incentive as different entities compete for that profit. And to compete successfully, the entities involved must be more efficient, innovative, productive, etc. than their competitors. This results in better products for less money. After all, in competitive market, people have a choice where to buy the things they need & want. In a non-profit situation, there is no profit motive, and consequently no incentive to be efficient, innovative, etc. When you have only one source for the things you need, you had better be prepared to pay a lot for very little.

Anonymous

I think this is a great idea. By establishing the pricing that he has he limits his number of patients and is able to offer a higher level of care. A family of five with a high deductible plan would spend about $8500 a year, or $708 per month, on health care costs. There are a lot of self employed people paying that right now. This sounds like a good deal for some, although not all.

This doctor is on the right track. This is more in line with what medicine should be like. Use a high deductible policy for catastrophe and a family physician charging flat fees for everything else.

Do the math?

The good Dr is doing 40% less work without insurance claims, seeing 1/5 of the patients he currently sees, and will likely sustain his standard of living. Sounds like a good deal to me!

I think I'll stick with what I've got.

Dilemma isn't it?

If more doctors would do this, BUT make their fees more reasonable than his we could all manage with a catastrophic care plan for the worst scenario requiring further intervention like surgery and diagnostics. My husband and I eat extremely well, healthy, no sodas, pre-packaged high sodium foods etc. and have good cholesterol and no diabetes at ages 60. We only lack routine wellness checks and blood work because we lost our jobs. That would be perfect but at this price? No can do. The good Dr. Jennings and others need to sharpen their pencils and come back at it.

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