Comments about ‘Canadian in Utah to seek 'strange creatures seldom seen'’

He's been watching too much TV.

John Warms is on a monstrous quest for "strange creatures seldom seen."

Is he searching for Utah Democrats?

A percentage of people love to believe in the unbelievable, and they seldom require much evidence to suspend logic, commonsense and skepticism in order to pursue their beliefs. I have friends who believe in Sasquatch, alien-driven UFOs, alien-made crop circles, governmental conspiracies about autopsies of alien crash victims, governmental and big corporate conspiracies to hide deleterious effects of chemicals such as Aspartame, and on and on. I think incredible and extraordinary claims should require extraordinary evidence, not half-baked theories supported by the most outlandish way to treat facts, acceptance of eyewitness testimony over the total absence of solid, physical evidence, and the reliance on rumors and conspiracy theories. Are these believers crazy? No. But their methods of processing evidence and their lack of ability to employ logic are clearly evident to those of us who retain our skepticism in spite of the many efforts to persuade us to believe in unproven things.

He may have luck in other fields, but not with the Bear Lake Monster. According to generations of family folklore, the story was started as a prank by one of the sons of Charles C. Rich, who settled the area.

How about the Utah Valley democrat. I know someone who said they saw one once.

It was skeptics like you that told us the world was flat.

Unknown to date species of animals, reptiles and plants are still being discovered and rediscoverd. Previous civilizations may have recorded their existence.
The researchers looking for them should not be put down and made fun of. When they discover new species, they add to our knowledge. Many legends have a basis in fact. Finding the facts about them is one of the keys to finding the truth. But, this can take a long time to accomplish by dedicated researchers.

"So far, he said, no scientific experts will take any interest in these purported creatures."

Most scientists won't be interested in rumors and sightings because it usually gets them nowhere. But one thing is true: science certainly has NOT discovered every creature that lives on this earth. There are thousands (millions if you count the microscopic ones) that don't want to be discovered. Good luck to this guy!

He's a Nut ! !

I remember a peculiar creature a few years back, before the Olympics came to Utah.
True to the tradition of Olympic behind-the-scenes payoffs and vote-buying, Salt Lake City got the Olys --- but then ratted on itself! Other cultures would have just kept quiet.

But, nooooo, SLC prosecuted organizers for several years. Almost made some of them extinct.

Weird bunch out there in Utah.
Can't you just play the money game the way the rest of Olympic cities have always played it?

Closer to home, Mr. Warms, you will find rarer creatures.

Read "Hunting Dinosaurs in the Bad Lands of the Red Deer River, Alberta, Canada" by Charles H. Sternberg, published in 1932.

Update on the Bear Lake Monster story: It was not started by the Charles Rich family, but he told it once, with a great big wink, at a public event. Many of the locals gave him credit or blame for it thereafter.
There is a watercraft with twin engines made to represent it, giving tourist rides on the lake.

I once saw a hairy beast foraging in the middle of the night. It was making low rumbling noises and eating quite noisily. When it was done devouring its meal it went to sleep...

turns out it was my dad just downing a midnight snack. Oh well!

All joking aside, there's a difference between being Open-Minded versus Stupid. The truly Open-Minded are willing to investigate and consider without damning an idea based on its popularity or lack thereof. Stupid, however, was once defined to me as a combination of ignorance--"You don't know"--which of itself is not offensive if one WANTS to learn, as opposed to Stupid: "You don't know and you don't WANT to know."

Purported Scientists and Skeptics are as illogical and foolish as overly credible Believers when they refuse to so much as look at a given phenomena because they deem it unworthy. Ridiculing reports, rather than proving them wrong or at least highly unlikely, only serves to kill their credibility as they obviously use the same lack of sense they accuse the Believers of.

Let's drop the status fight and encourage looking at phenomena. THAT's scientific.

PJ in OH

I will be looking forward to your book! Unknown animals or creatures thought extinct are out there!

Open-mindedness is the one of the keys to unlocking the mysteries of the world, if we retain some skepticism and common sense. There are a lot of things in this world that can't be explained, I for one personally know this, but to put down anybody that is searching for answers, whether it be a true researcher or a crackpot, is just plain oppressive. Mr Warms has a passion, let him do what he has to do!
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Take a good look at his picture, he will be the next missing hiker that has no idea what he is doing.

Cool!