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Published: Thursday, Dec. 17 2009 1:00 a.m. MST

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If you visit the historical sites in Kirtland Ohio, you will understnd that the Community Of Christ does not base their beliefs on historical events such as the first vision,sacred grove,etc.What I see is that the events that took the church from 1820 to the 1860's when the RLDS church was established are no longer infallable doctrines of the COC. For me the COC gave up their belefs in the restoration,the Prophet Joseph and all that he stood for.Little to none is ever mentioned about Joseph in the COC.Even acceptence of the BOM is only an elective in that church.


This was such a beautiful article. To those of you who say they cannot understand Mr. Parrott, may I try to help you out? I have loved the story of Joseph Smith and the history of the LDS Church for over 30 years. I have never considered, no would I ever, join your Faith. I, like Mr. Parrott, feel that something that your people consdider miraculous happened in the Grove in 1820. It is because YOU believe that we respect and take in the meaning of the Sacred Grove. A lot of LDS are moved at the beauty of the Great Cathedrals of Europe but not to the point of changing your beliefs. I feel that God sanctifies places, be they Mormon, Catholic or any other place. Many have approached me to be baptized. At one time it was annoying, now I just say "no thank you". Each person brings from the Sacred Grove an individual experience, not a shared experience that the Latter-day Saints have. Please don't confuse appreciation and respect for some secret longing to convert. God Bless All.



Thanks for your comment.

I have known several people who respect our beliefs, some who even come to church... But who have not "joined" the church.

On my mission in Australia, I baptised a woman who had attended church for over ten years, and only joined when her husband left her...

There are lots legitimate reasons people don't join the church when *we* think they should...

I think we should all learn a lesson from this article... At one point in my professional career, I (a Mormon) was hired by Catholics to do construction on a Catholic church.

I gave it 110%. If someone were to ask me, I would say that I appreciated the work they were giving me and my family, and I respect the Catholic faith... Pretty much the same response this guy gave... If someone asked me why I wasn't a Catholic, I would give the same answer this guy gave as to why he is not LDS...

Great article, and thanks to DNews for the article, and NonMormon for your insight...

for Thanks@8;36

Thank you so much for your kind thoughts. I am NonMormon @ 8:36 and guess what? I am Catholic. So your sentiments were especially appreciated. I would bet that your work reflected the 110 per cent you gave. I wish in these very troubling times that we could all learn to respect each other's beliefs and defend not only our own Faith, but the Faith of others as well. May you and your family have a joyous Christmas as we celebrate the birth of the one we both call Jesus Christ the Saviour.

To Unasked Question

Maybe he believes in the 1832 (the First and only account written by JS himself) instead of the official version published by the church and based on the wentworth letter (1842...10 years later !)?
How can you miss such important details on such imprtant event? From angels only to Jesus only to The Father and Jesus...
Don't know, but the typical apologist explanation is not easy to swallow, specially when we are talking about a vision of GOD and JESUS no less!
btw... was this a vision? or an aparition?


I've known people who feel something everytime they go into an LDS Chapel or even a Catholic Cathedral. Some have no idea what that feeling is but they enjoy it. That is something we all should take with us. The story of the first vision is known throughout the world. Some believe it happened as is described not only by Joseph Smith but also by those who have heard him tell it. All are the same as it depends upon the audience. This is not apologitic but common sense. I appreciate the respect we receive from those not of our faith and I honestly believe that seeds are planted every day. Some florish and grow instantly and some take years to florish. No matter, the time will come when all knees shall bow and every tongue confess that Jesus is the Christ. There are many righteous people of all faiths and religions. Let us as Latter Day Saints respect and honor those not of our faith since each and every one of us is a child of our Heavenly Father.



Implicit within your comment is an arrogant assumption that your Church, and ONLY your Church is "true". Consider that WE are planting seeds of truth in YOU! Open your mind and study it out in your heart, and you will see that the Christian tradition preserved by the One and Only Holy Catholic Church is the source of any and all good feelings, righteous works, and knowledge about Jesus Christ. Any "truths" you find in Mormonism were placed there as "seeds" by God through the Catholic Church, and they will germinate when you recognize your faith is derivative, secondary, and borrowed, not original in any way. God bless you that the scales will fall from your eyes during this season of "Christ's Mass".

to Madison

Is that comment satirical?


Is your question rhetorical?


To Madison:

I've always stated that the true Church of Jesus Christ is either the Catholic Church or the LDS Church. I know without any shadow of doubt that what Joseph Smith saw and spoke about what happened in the Sacred Grove happened without any deviation from his accounts. Whether they be written by those who were present or by his own hand. Fact remains something extraordinary happened in this grove of trees in New York. In the life time of Joseph Smith he restored the Gospel of Jesus Christ to the Earth, translated by the hand of God the Book of Mormon and had it printed on two continents, sent missionaries to the four quarters of the earth and today this Church that began with just 6 members is in excess of 13 million today. Sure some are less active, just as about the same amount of Catholics are. It is not an assumption that the Church of Jesus Christ of Latter Day Saints is the only true Church. I'm not being arrogant at all. I'm being truthful.

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