It is a parents choice whether to hold their child back a grade or not. These
parents are very capable and know what is best for their child. To begin
speaking poorly of these parents is immature and uneducated. Many of these
athletes were held back from attended kindergarten for a year and therefore it
had nothing to do with their ability in sports. Many children are not ready for
school intellectually and socially when they are suppose to begin school so
their parents chose to hold them back to help them be better prepared. Therefore
it is not your job to accuse their parents of breaking any "rules." Age does not
affect an individuals athletic capabilities until they are an adult (20) so
therefore the age of these young men does not matter. Accept an athlete for
their abilities and give them the recognition they deserve.
Talon has actually played up most of his days in sports, he played on my
freshman little brother's football team for awhile back in like 6th grade, then
he decided to play up a grade in sports. So even if he was supposed to be a 10th
grader it doesn't matter, because he is playing with the 10th graders and has
been playing with that age group for awhile. Same with basketball. Perhaps
parents actually do know whats best for their kids. hmmm that's idea...
just for the record, Talon Shumway is still 15 and won't be 16 until months
after the season ends. also he rarely plays his own grade so all you complainers
can get over the fact that the players that are just a little bit older like
Jordan Darger and Talon Shumway are the best players with nick emery. They don't
deserve to be criticized just because they are good at what they love. next year
Shumway will be starting basketball and quarterback for lone peak so age will
have no affect because he'll still be one of the youngest.
Lewis must be a super coach, the list above of his accomplishments are amazing.
Looks like I'll be attending some LP games this year and for a few years to
come. With Emery and next year TJ Haws, look out everyone, these guys will be
tough to beat and congrats to Coach Lewis!
I agree about the holding back! There is no rule, it is not cheating! It is a
decision and it perfectly acceptable! It is pretty much commonly accepted that
males mature later than females and they benefit from the extra maturity!
Regardless of sports!
Lehi had their best on ball defender guarding Emery. He's a quick guard who can
stay on most guys like glue. IMO, he is one of the best defenders in the state.
Two things: I've been watching Emery in AAU tourneys for three years..he is
just that good and on top of that, had an unbelievable night. Secondly, the
Lehi coach never gave the kid guarding him a rest all night. If you never
substitute you are putting your team at risk in the 4th quarter. Lehi gave up a
5 point lead with a minute or so to go IIRC.Regarding holding kids
back - People need to not whine so much. It's not attractive for a male.
Didn't see the game. Just looking at the box score. Looks like Lehi choked
more than LP won... their previous lowest scoring quarter was the 1st with 11
and they only scored 4 in the fourth??? Lehi shot 57% from the free throw
line!!! If they'd shot 67%, which isn't good, they would have had OT! Just an
observation (from watching Emery play this summer against a GOOD defender)... if
Lehi had an decent defender on Emery, they win that game!!!
The only reason that Lone Peak won that game was the Emery kid. You can't teach
natural skill, and that kid has alot. However, the Pioneers played harder and
have more heart, and I know they would be able to win in a rematch.
All you that are crying about whether someone held their kids back for sports.
Shut up. You really have no idea why that child was held back. Most boys are
better off, if held back. And that has nothing to do with sports. The question
I have for you is why are you so upset with parents of these boys? Is it
because your children are not very good at sports?
He could go there and be a back-up, or he could go to BYU and be a star. But I
guess he will have his pick.
You are right Loveridge and Pryor are Sophmores and not freshman but they are
great players. The class of 2012 do have other players who are just as good and
talented too. With all this talk you people forget that these boys are only kids
and should not have their childhood taken by crazy people or parents who live
through them. Oh and FYI all these boys are good friends and they get along well
and they do hang out together every once in a while and if you were to ask them
who is the best out of them all they all would say," Who cares I just want to
play basketball". Everyone please relax
Nick Emery is way to good to stay at home and go to BYU He belongs in the ACC
Duke or NC
Loveridge and Pryor are sophs and not freshmen. The class of 2012 has very few
good players in it.
dont forget about Jordan Loveridge, and Jordan Pryor at West Jordan High school
they are the same age as these studs at lone peak, Loveridge and Emery will
fight it out for the best player in the state the next coulple of years and Byu
is after both kids so once again byu could get the best kids in the state for
there classes again, come on utah get some of these local kids
Nick is clearly the best freshman right now, but some kids develop later on. It
will be interesting to see how good these players are by there senior year in
high school. The most improved player I've seen this year is Brandon Miller
(Freshman) I believe by his senior year, he will challenge Nick for best player
in the state, they both play in the same region it will be a fun rivalry for
years to come!
Nick is simpley the best he will be the first true freshman to lead the state in
scoring. Not only is he a great scoreer his defense is even better.
I held my kid back. He has asked me if I held him back because I thought he
wasn't good enough to play his own age. Kids are smarter than you think they
understand why most parents hold them back. In reality we are just cheating our
kids when we hold them back.
so should everyone that has kids that play sports hold their kids out?
tell that to the kid that was as good and maybe a little better than your kids
but didn't get to play because he was a grade ahead because he played by the
rules. Nobody ever said it was illegal and your kids aparently were held out
just for sports if they were good enough to get scholarships that is great for
them it is not the kids fault it is the parents fault that contiue to live in
their kids dreams. There is still alot of life out there go grab a peice of it
live it and love it. It is another kids turn to play move on.
I held all my kids back for sports when they were younger, because they were
late bloomers and had mid to late summer birthdays, and would have been the
youngest kids in their class. All you whiners could have done the same thing.
So, now I'm a cheater for making things more equal? We have
opposable thumbs people, and we have intelligence and get to make decisions. I
guess the people that planned to have their children born in September, October
and November are cheaters as well, because they planned for their kids to be the
oldest in their respective grades, with a distinct advantage over the younger
kids in their grade. Also, last I checked it was not illegal to
have your kids repeat a grade, or start them late in school. Until they make it
illegal, do it yourself. All my kids served LDS missions and have been great
parents, so I don't understand the moral dilemma either. By the
way, the boys all received full ride scholarships in football. I think it was a
wise financial decision.
Nick has got to be the best freshman to ever play. Im good friends with him and
he is a really good kid to be around. and he is also incredible at basketball!
It doesnt get much better than that!
It isn't the kids fault they should be playing as seniors but the UHSAA should
put in a new rule that dosen't punish the current kids in this position but
kicks in down the road so that future parents that hold their kids back to so
knowing that they will not be able to play their senior year.
I agree it's not the kids fault but if they were held back for sports it is
cheating and they should not be able to play their senior year.
Shad Watson is the best player coming into high school next year. He might even
be better than Nick Emery right now time will tell. He will start varsity at
Box Elder and could probably start at any high school in the state.
someone knows a lot about these kids, but from what I've heard Nick's b-day is
also right on the edge. Nick is far and away the stud of 2013, but I think
Chad Watson (8th grader from Box Elder) will give him a run for his money
starting next year.
these kids are great players however they should be in 10th grade. It is not
the kids fault that the parents hold their kids out for sports. It teaches the
kids the wrong things in life. The parents need to figure out what is important
in life honesty should come before sports. Should these kids be allowed to play
when they are seniors and taking the spot of a kid that played by the rules???
And the fact that they could be (not should be) in 10th grade diminishes them
how? Don't take credit away from any of the kids. Just give it where it is due.
The fact is these athletes all have 4 years of varsity basketball left and they
have a ton of talent. They will be exciting watch. Don't take that away.
Most of the best current Freshman should be Sophomores---they are just following
the national trend--but Brandon Miller-Brighton, Jordan Darger-Jordan, Talon
Shumway-Lone Peak, Bubba Miller-Bear River should all be in 10th grade. Of all
the top Freshman only Nick Emery (Lone Peak) Parker Van Dyke (East) and Connor
Pardoe (Jordan) are of "true" Freshman age.
most of the top players played AAU basketball with Salt Lake Metro Nick Emery,
Talon Shumway and Connor Toolson are all at Lone Peak. Jordan Darger and Connor
Pardoe are at Jordan High. Brandon Miller and Uaea Misina are at Brighton High.
All of these schools are in region 4 this will be the best region in 2013 and
very exciting to follow.
don't forget about the Andy Toolsons kid at LP he is another great player and
could end up at BYU
he is the real deal and should be a top rated recruit. If he wants to make it
big, then out of state is where he needs to go as the Utah schools just don't
put out the quantity, quality and rarely see pro status. I say rarely.The LP program is amazaing and you have to give to quincy and the fathers of
most these kids. There is a freshman from LP however that would likely be in his
JR year had they followed the age for process......just some thoughts.
This was such a heartbreaker to watch. Zach Stanley is one of my best friends
and I really wish he would have made that last shot. He is a great basketball
player. Even to get that shot off in them midst of such great defense is a
tribute to his talent. Lehi will take state in 4A. Go Pioneers!
hey the coach needs to make a change and start getting out of the box- double
and scout your team- the ball out of the best players hand
Yes Nick Emery is a great player but the Class of 2013 is LOADED! Besides Nick
and TALON SHUMWAY from Lone Peak check out JORDAN DARGER at Jordan, BRANDON
MILLER at Brighton, PARKER VANDYKE at East and WADE "BUBBA" MILLER at Bear
River. All of these Freshman are fabulous players and are playing Varsity
baksetball this year. This will be a fun class to watch!
Last time I checked Lone Peak is 1-3 against Provo in the last four years. There
is a difference between scoring and winning. Collinsworth and the rest of the
Provo kids know how to win. Collinsworth can't shoot? That is crazy. Look at his
shooting percentage. Jackson is great. Tyler is great. And Nick is also great.
But don't trash Provo -- because they are also great -- just look at the last
I was at the game and I was amazed with Nick's game and how he can shoot off the
dribble. Another player that stood out was Tannon Pedersen he is good at both
football and basketball. But there is another freshmen on the team that needs
some credit and that is Tallon Shumway he pulled down a huge rebound at the end
of the game to help Lone Peak in the win.
Everyone also needs to remember that there is another Freshamn on that team --
Talon Shumway, and even though he isn't starting, he is an incredible athlete.
Lone Peak has great coaching and will continue to win this year and in the years
coming up. Emery is a great player and he has good teammates.
I am not surprised about how good Nick Emery is, he has been making shots like
this since 3rd grade. I expect many more big shots for him to make over the next
Emery is going to win Mr. Basketball his freshman, sophomore, and his junior
year. By his senior year there going to have to make a brand new award just for
Emery is unstoppable. Nobody can guard him, and he is a freshmen. He will be
the leading scorer in the state as a 9th grader.
This is the first time in four years LP isn't the heavy favorites to go all the
way. But with a horse like Emery and a great supporting cast is anyone going to
write them off when they get to February form?
Quincy Lewis has been the coach at Lone Peak for six years. He's fifteen players
into college basketball including every starter from his last three teams. He's
won 3 state championships (no 5A team has ever won more then 2 in a decade) and
played for 4. He's won 85% of his games against what is typically the best
schedule in Utah. Best coach around. Doing it again.
Emery is top to bottom the best player in the state. I would give collinsworth
the edge except for one flaw, he can't shoot, let alone score jumpers off the
Lone Peak starts a freshman, sophomore, junior, senior, senior. Only one of them
had any Varsity experience last year. First two guys off the bench are another
freshman and a senior who hasn't played basketball since he was a sophomore. The
fact Lewis wins no matter who he puts out on the floor is incredible.
Is loaded for the forseeable future. Haws's little brother comes through next
year as does thurl bailey's son. Emery is downright nasty. What freshman in the
country can hit an NBA 3 going to his right with a kid draped all over him to
tie the game? Did I mention nick is left handed? It was a great game. Pederson
played great and shumway (another freshman) came up with a huge board with a
minute to go.
Every white kid is the return of John Stockton - study calculus son - the pay is
better on the knees... even if ...BIG IF....you are that good...
Nick is an amazing kid. I go to school with him. This game shows that Lehi we be
a force to beat in the 4A divison. I don't think we will play a harder team this
year other then maybe provo. This was the most intense game ever. We couldn't
have played any better. Lone Peak will also have the toolson kid next year.
Holy Cow! Just how good is this kid?! That's impressive. Not only does he tie
the game and then give his team the lead, but he scores half their points in the
game and it's only his 3rd varsity game. Unbelievable. It makes me
wonder just how good this kid will be by the time he's in his senior year. It
sure will be fun to watch.
Nice job Nick! First of many great things to come! Give a lot of credit to
Lehi, that is a VERY good team. They will be one of the last 4 standing this
year in 4A. What a game!