Yeah, nobody hears Ute fans spouting about their "two" BCS wins, nope I never
have, the past is still the past whether it's been 20 years or one. What is your
point? Then you stop talking about beating Alabama and Pitt, it's 2009 AND YOU
ARE PLAYING CAL!!
Hey Ute fans? So explain to me how going from the Sugar Bowl one year and crying
that you should be #1, to the POINSETTIA Bowl the next is some great
accomplishment? Isn't that a HUGE downgrade? You are playing a non-ranked
crappy Pac-10 team. At least BYU is playing a ranked team, And somehow you
think that you are still some powerhouse, historic team??!!?!? the Poinsettia
bowl is even lower than the Vegas Bowl, At least BYU doesn't go from playing in
the Vegas bowl to playing in the Little Ceasar's Pizza Bowl year after year. I
don't care if you have a bowl streak going, who wouldn't playing teams like
Navy, Southern Miss and Tulsa? How many bowl games have those teams ever won
anyway? I just don't get it, some P-ute fan explain this to me.
Ha ahaha, really? Oh, sorry I forgot the entire Ute team has 4.0 GPA's, have you
ever seen a TV interview with Robert Johnson? Wow, do you think he passed
english? Doubt it.
And how many of the Ute players are up for some prestigious award? Exactly.
BYU is not that great but will cuz OSU is terrible and I will be there cheerin
for the ducks
Let's check and see if Tonga has the grades from this semester required to
play. I know he passed Lego's 3 and made a Barney puppet, but scholastically ? I
bet that he isn't eligible.
Cal will kill you guy's in San Diego !!! Really go on your site and sing your
tune there...YOU ARE BORING...
I love the Utes and Cougars. I have a RED Diploma and I am very proud to be a
COUGAR FAN despite Hall's big mouth. But we are all aloud to insert our feet
into our mouths several times in our lives and Max has preformed up to par,
tremendous job Maxie...Any way lets knock out the "09" season with a bowl win
and get ready for next year when Riley gets his shot...GO #13 in 2010...Go
I meant conference championships
I meant championships For a team ''Utah'' that has only won five conference
championships in 50 years. And lost three out of the last four, to there rivals.
You are starting to know about the gnashing of teeth that is fore told.
For a team ''Utah'' that has only won five bowl games in 50 years. And lost
three out of the last four, to there rivals. You are starting to know about the
gnashing of teeth that is fore told.
OSU will be very very tough. As a PAC-10 (and BYU) fan with degrees from UW and
OSU, I watch these guys. James Rogers is an amazingly good little receiver. Fast
and great hands even for a 5 foot something receiver; he beats taller DBs. Maybe
Logan can stay with him - at least they'll be comparable in size.Jacquizz Rogers is 5'something 210 pounds of bowling ball. He'll duck under
our D-Line's arms and will be a load. Extremely quick. He killed USC last year
with about 200 yards himself.Their QB is 6'4" prototypical pro QB
with fabulous touch and a great arm.BYU'll have to be as good as
they were against OU, Wyoming and Air Force. I think it will be a shootout
because their defense is not great.This is a great matchup with real
props to the winner. I'm pumped as "heck". Rooting for BYU, but won't be
heartbroken if OSU wins it.
How many times has BYU appeared in a post-season bowl game only to lose to an
opponent considered below its stature?Remember all those times the
WAC champion lost to a 4th, 5th, or 6th place team from a "big" conference?
What an excellent job of representing the conference! Similar results as MWC
champ.Oh, and what about the time BYU's Heisman trophy winner put up
a fine, fine performance in his senior season bowl game against those A&M
Aggies? Lots of great memories when it comes to BYU and bowl games!
Lots and lots.
BYU was fortunate to finish the 1984 season undefeated. Good job. That BYU
team won the national beauty contest and was voted #1. Good job. BYU played 0
teams in 1984 that finished the year ranked. BYU had 4 "close" games (by Dick
Harmon's count). Voters that year preferred LaVell Edwards to Barry Switzer.
Good job (and a really good choice by voters if you ask me).Utah was
fortunate to finish the 2004 and the 2008 season undefeated. Good job(s). The
2004 Utah team had 0 close games and beat 1 team that finished the year ranked.
Good job. The 2009 team beat 4 teams that finished the year ranked, including
two in the top 10, and one that spent five weeks ranked number 1. Another good
job. BYU faithful can make whatever they want of the national
championship banner. Until there is a playoff for college football, this very
informed college football fan will take what teams accomplish on the field over
the beauty contest results any day.Oh, and, BTW, hoping for a BYU
victory in the Las Vegas Bowl.
I sure hope you really are called little jimmy brady and not trying to be cute
by association with the youngest brady kid on the brady bunch. Because his name
was actually "little BOBBY brady".But, if you truly are a jimmy
brady, then disregard my comments and accept my apology, because I was not
trying include all little jimmy's in my remarks, just the few (5%) of them that
are the trouble causers in the entire fan base..... oh wait, that is a different
subject all together. My bad!, sorry ute athletic director, no really I do
apologize, no really!!where would we be without sarcasm?
It never ceases to amaze me how similar politics and sports are--especially with
their fans. When a fan takes a step away for a minute and takes a non-biased
look at the situation, they might think, "What are we even talking about?"The Vegas Bowl is not for the 2nd place MWC team. If that were the case
TCU would have gone last year, right?Who cares about 1984? Who cares
about 2004 and 2008? It's over. You enjoyed them. Now, get on with your lives!
2008 is what causes Utah fans to refuse to look at this year's team rationally.
Please everyone spending time comparing history, just get over
yourselves. Enjoy your team and quit using stats that are ultimately
games of the bowl season. 2 great teams with reasons to plays well. Expect a
great effort on both sides. Expect a lot of points to be put up. Bothe have
great Sr. QBs and 1000yd rushers. Both have defences, especially pass defences,
that have been suspect in the past.BYU wins a close one.38-34
Will Boise still be laughing when they get beat by TCU AGAIN, his time in a Bowl
Consolation Series game? Sorry, you do not get to prove your worth against a
real BCS team.
Okay, you want BYU to participate on Sundays, but if they did you would jump all
over them for being hypocrites. Your kind should go out and find a
good place to freeze in the ice.
Dear BYU if you can't be a part of the activities on Sundays, please just get
out of NCAA Sports! Don't expect everyone else to have to change just to please
you! Forfeit the Bowl If you can't play by the plans already in place.
Just don't deny me the Rolls...
You forgot some: Utah is still in third place. Utah still lost. BYU is still
3-1 against Utah over the last four years.
Hey B Whine U Fans,In case you forgot:BOISE 2 BCS
BowlsBYU 0 BCS Bowls
Please OSU show them how to get smacked in the mouth again. They are the biggest
smack talkers yet accuse Utah fans of doing the same thing. Their favorite is to
quote who made the final play. Well the difference is when Utah wins we beat
them good, not by some miracle play that was deemed by our "worthiness" at the
end of the game. BTW - Hall is still throwing interceptions, sticking his foot
in his mouth, and posing for cheesy photo shoots with Collie and Pitta.
Las Vegas is for the 2nd place team (BYU) and San Diego is for the 3rd place
team (Utah). It's not about the venue although I'd be in San Diego, it's about
BYU-W, Utah-L. For Ute fans, "L" means loss as in losers.
Re:re:What plays there stays there | 11:46 p.m. Dec. 7, 2009 I would like a Mustang.... 1984 was a long time ago. The Rolls won't run
i'm disappointed, like all beaver fans, that we're not playing in the rosebowl.
but this should be a great game with byu! i'll be there in vegas cheering on
the rodgers brothers and company. and to cougar fans, i believe you will find
that beaver nation is both proud and classy. and i loved that max hall said
exactly what was on his mind after the utah game! go beavs!
Hey Utah Fans! The Dallas Cowboys and NY Football Giants just played a game. The
Giants won. The Giants starting running back Brandon Jacobs said after the game:
"It's extra special against Dallas. I've been hating Dallas ever since I knew
anything about football.'' I listen to Dallas sports talk radio
EVERY DAY and NO ONE in Dallas said a word about those comments. BYU/Utah is a
rivalry. Rivals don't like each other. Might even "hate" each other. I can't
believe how childish, sensitive and immature Utah fans are. No one
in the nation cares about what Max Hall said. It has received virtually NO
attention because it is a non-story. GET OVER IT. QUIT WHINING. GROW UP. You are
embarrassing yourself and only proving Hall more correct every day. I am
continually amazed at how sensitive and childish you are (generally and not
individually, I wouldn't want to offend all Ute fans again). Max said he was
sorry. Won't you ever find it in your hearts to forgive him (sarcasm
intended)?What is best for Utah, TCU and BYU is that ALL of them win
their bowl games.
Living in the past as always! The game is BYU vs. Oregon State.Not BYU vs Michigan 1984.
All thos numbers when all you reall need to know is that BYU has beat Utah three
of the last four years. Harline is open, 4th and 19, George is still
running.How hard is is to crunch those numbers?OK, I see
I am dealing with a Ute fan who never went to college. Let's try this...Let's say Bronco has three apples, and Kyle has one. Who has more
apples. Now, let's assume that 3 > 1. Bronco has more apples, Kyle is jealous,
and says "I didn't want your stupid apples anyway". Kyle runs away.Of course, Kyle wanted the apples but realizing he couldn't have them, he gets
angry and storms away.One other fast one. Let's assume that BYU has
an 1984 Rolls Royce, but Utah has a 2004 and 2008 Mustang. Would Utah trade
those two Mustangs for the cherry 84 Rolls? Of couse they would, but since they
can't, they say "Who want's a stupid 84 Rolls?" They walk away singing "We have
two Mustangs, and you-ou-ou do-on't".Everybody has mustangs, but
only 1 Rolls Royce is made per year.National Championship
You Zoobs amaze me.We might not understand football but we do know
that today success under the BCS cartel is not a national championship for us,
TCU, Boise, and everyone else not affilated with with the cartel execpt maybe
BYU because of their tradition. Oh wait TCU has 2 national titles.
Couldn't ask for a much better matchup then this one, going against Oregon state
who tied for 2nd in the pac 10. I dont care that BYU is playing in the Las Vegas
Bowl for the 5th straight year, the matchup they got is perfect. It will be a
good game and could be a shootout, but hopefully BYU will bring their A game on
both sides of the ball.GO Cougars!!!
Oregon State plays teams like:Cincinnatti wins by 10 (ranked 4th latest
poll)Stanford loses by 10 (ranked 19 latest poll)Oregon wins by 4
(ranked 7 latest poll)USC wins by 6Arizona loses by 5 (ranked 22 in
latest poll)BYU loses to Florida State at home by 26 (not ranked)BYU loses to TCU at home by 31 (ranked 3rd latest poll)BYU beats Utah in
OT (ranked 23 latest poll)Oregon 36BYU 14Have a great
zoobie summer and book your tickets for Vegas early. Las Vegas Bowl - BYU
plays here and STAYS here!!!
To the Ute Fan who posted the three tier post.Tier One-BYU TCUTier Two- Everyone ElseNo matter how you cut it, BYU and TCU
are the only teams from the Mountain West to ever win National Championships in
football. I know it still stings seeing BYU rewarded with another trophy to
honor this accomplishment. Still... the U does have gymnastics to fall back on
or over. So... I suggest you go put on that leotard and do a tumble. You may
Just like he did in the Utah game, right?
on yet another double-digit win regular season, on your second place finish in
the MWC, on your #15 end-of-season ranking, and on your selection to the Vegas
Bowl to play a Pac-10 team that was one score away from the Rose Bowl.Congrats Utes on your 9-win regular season, third place finish in the MWC,
staying in the top 25, your lower-tier selection to the San Diego Credit Union
flower bowl, to play a team that has been continually blown away when they lose.
No past history here. Live in the present! Life as a Cougar
Fan is good.
Glad to see some classy people on the post.Yes... Hate the Utes but,
go Utah. Beat Cal badly. Yes... Love the Cougs and, go BYU. Thrash
Oregon State.Nationally, what's good for BYU is good for Utah and
vice versa. Utah did BYU a big favor by whipping Alabama.
Alabama came into the Sugar Bowl last year (according to analysts) without any
heart or emotion. Why, because they were #1 and lost the shot at the National
Championship game. They are elated this year, and said yesterday they were
excited to be in the NC game after the dissappointment of not playing for a NC
last year.To them, a BCS game is meaningless. To play in a BCS game
might be exciting for the little puppy schools, but the Big Dogs know a chance
at the National Championship is the zenith of college football. Many
college football teams have played in BCS gams, many have won, many more than
two. Many of those teams have never won a National Championship.What
a feeling to walk in your teams stadium and see the National Championship
banner. To be able to go and see the trophy in your teams trophy case.Utah fans who demean a National Championship regardless of the year, just do
not understand college football.A National Championship means you
are voted #1 in the final polls, regardless of the current system in place.So bark, little puppies, and take your third place position... The
"Heisman candidates in New York.. | 6:59 p.m. Dec. 7, 2009 Where is
Maxi Hall?Did he get invited?"And you have the nerve to call
the guy who puts on the helmet, beats you on 4th and 18 with a dislocated
shoulder that kept your star out for three weeks, threaded it to George to beat
your sorry butts again... classless?Do you need a dictionary???
It will be business as usual for the Utes. They will win another bowl game while
BYU gets rolled over by the Oregon State Beavers. Hopefully Max Hall gets a
taste of that astro turf all night long!
Good Luck Cougs. Represent the conference well.Go Utes!!!
Canfield was OUTSTANDING in the OSU vs UofO game. Hall has a tough match with
Canfield's ability to see the whole picture. Quizz Rodgers is another person to
watch on OSU's team. He may be small, but he's very quick and agile. No doubt
about it. BYU is going to have to shut down OSU's offense in order to win.
In, MWC:Tier-1 (BCS teams): Utah, TCUTier-2 (BCS chasers):
AFA, BYUTier-3 (doormats): CSU, UNLV, UNM, SDSU, WYO
BYU surprised me with how well they finished the season at 10-2. After their
meltdown against FSU, all you Cougar fans wanted Bronco to take a hike. Now
look at what he has done for you now. You all think he is just as good as a
PBand J sandwich. BYU still needs to focus on DEFENSE. Just leave that GPS at
home, you can all probably drive to Vegas with your eyes closed. If the
Cougars lose, don't be blaming Bronco for mistakes. OSU has a very good QB,WR,
We shall see what happens this Bowl Season. I cheer on the MWC! I want ALL MWC
teams to win strong in all their Bowl Games. (Even UTAH root for do
I....Yoda)I do think that the BCS is so protective in putting BSU
against TCU so as to prevent two of their beloved BCS conference teams from
being humiliated by upstarts! But, those with the Gold, Rule. Go
I LOVE playing in the Vegas Bowl, and better than ever this year as we are
ranked higher than ever going into the game and facing a better and
higher-ranked opponent than ever. Doesn't get any better than this - except
WHEN WE WIN!
Keep it clean or go join the Crimson Line!
No, Maxie will not make it. He'll be QBing for Utah since their QB couldn't
play for Bingham High. It's his penance for his comments...he has to be a Ute
for one game and feel what it's like to play for an inferior team.
Everybody whines every time we get the invite to the Vegas Bowl, why? Here is
the fact, the VEGAS BOWL PAYS $1,000,000 the Pointsettia Bowl pays $500,000,
WHAT ARE YOU CRYING ABOUT??? We'll take it!!! Plus we get a share of the Fiesta
Bowl Pay Out!!! Talk about a PAY OUT! This is great for the Conference! We could
be lowly Wyoming and squeak into the MASSIVELY POPULAR NEW MEXICO BOWL where the
real big money is! Come on people, this is a GOOD THING, even the Cowboys help
pay into the pot this year!!! Good job!!! Mountain West Bowl Teams!
Where is Maxi Hall?Did he get invited?
What have we done wrong? you would think because WE ARE BYU we could p;lay a
real team like Cal State Fullerton.
RE: "Ute fan | 5:25 p.m. Dec. 7, 2009 Normally I would cheer for BYU
against Oregon State but seeing that I have no class being a Utah fan, I hope
BYU gets mopped up just like against Florida State! Ya, that's what I want for
christmas a good old butt kicking for the team DOWN SOUTH."A
classless Ute fan, that wants a BYU loss more than a Ute win, and doesn't know
how to capitalize Christmas (they have classes).My, how things have
Calls as good of a game as they did against utah and the BYU D line can get to
the QB like they did against Utah they will win. If the BYU D plays like they
did against TCU or New Mexico it will be an Oregon State blowout.
For how many years do we have to hear our favorite Ute fans whine and cry with
comments about the team down south and max's classy comments. WHY can't UTE
fans MOVE on?????????Go Cougars. Las Vegas loves to host BYU
because of their fan base and CLASSY team. Who cares if Utah wins
their game. don't care. who cares what their stats are opposed to Cal? don't
Re: 437pm: There was a Yewt fan that didn't already cheer for every team that
plays BYU? Who knew? Well I know I'm really upset that Max's comments have now
caused all one of you to join the rest of your fans, but I'll still be cheering
for Utah to win its bowl game for the sake of the conference. Since when did
Yewt fans become such sensitive babies that they can't handle a little hate
speech from Max Hall? A win for BYU against the second place team in the PAC-10
would do a lot more good for Utah than a loss, but we BYU fans really couldn't
care less who you cheer for while watching the game in your parents basement.
Just don't embarrass yourself by going to the game.
RE: BYU!!! | 5:15 p.m. Dec. 7, 2009 Yes, BYU does have a slight lead
in all those statistical categories. But, I must admit, BYU also got to play
teams like UNLV and New Mexico. They are a low worse than the bottom teams of
the Pac-10. Still, these are two teams that are very close to each other
statistically. On paper, it looks like a good game.RE: Ute fan |
5:25 p.m. Dec. 7, 2009 The "team down south" garbage is exactly why
I dislike Urban Meyer. It's that kind of bologna that has made the rivalry such
a class-less event in the last few years. Show a little bit of respect for your
rival, please. Then maybe people won't accuse you of lacking class.
I like the way you think!
key here is that this is BYU's 5th consecutive bowl. Obviously the Maaco Las
Vegas Bowl likes the cougs too. As to who will win or kick the other's butt. How
about we wait and let the boys strap 'em up and play some football. That's what
it's all about. Let 'em play. Go blue!
To: OSU / 4:37Which Cougar tale would you like them to take? Maybe
the tale about Hall to TE Andrew George and "he is still running".
Here's a name you BYU fans will know after the Oregon State game. Jacquizz
Rodgers. Good luck trying to stop him. (key word: Try)
Normally I would cheer for BYU against Oregon State but seeing that I have no
class being a Utah fan, I hope BYU gets mopped up just like against Florida
State! Ya, that's what I want for christmas a good old butt kicking for the team
re cougarette.......you make me laugh. good one.
B.Y.U. is fired up this year and on the upswing after the Utah win.This team
handled the T.C.U. loss a lot better than last year's team.I believe that the
Cougars will win in a close game.
We lead Oregon St. in a lot of important categories:Passing
Offense:BYU- 288.92 ypgOregon St.- 275.75 ypgRushing
Offense:BYU- 148.17 ypgOregon St.- 144.17 ypgTotal
Offense: BYU- 437.08 ypgOregon St.- 419.02 ypgScoring
Offense:BYU- 37.45 ppgOregon St.- 32.42 ypgRushing
Defense:BYU- 112 ypgOregon St.- 114.25 ypgPassing
Defense:BYU- 219.08 ypgOregon St.- 238.67 ypgPassing
Efficiency Defense:BYU- 122.12 ratingOregon St.- 128.75 ratingTotal Defense:BYU- 331.08 ypgOregon St.- 352.92 ypgInterceptions-BYU- 13Oregon St.- 8Fumble
Recoveries-BYU- 8Oregon St.- 6You'll notice marginal
differences in several. The point is, WE LEAD! I love our chances in this game,
and if you want to talk intangibles, Oregon St. is by and large depressed that
they didn't get to go to the Rose Bowl. Different case last year with Arizona,
they wanted to be there a lot more than we did and it was their first bowl game
in like 10 years or something. Go Cougars!!! Beat the Pac-10 snobs
Since this is the hoped-for matchup between Bronco and his alma mater, he's
excited to play. Since it is Max Hall's last game as a Cougar, he will leave it
on the field. Look for BYU to win and move into the top 10 in the final poll.
What a slam to the Utes who go to the rinky dink bowl!
LET IT GO!! My goodness! Let it go!
Did bronco really use the term 'higher level' again?sheesh!!!!
And that's exactly why BYU will lose, they will be drugged by Oregon State with
their high powered offense. BYU lives by the pass, and dies by the pass.
I just hope Max can keep things classy, win or lose. He brought a lot of
attention with his infamous comments after the win in the rivalry game, i
believe he will put on a better act this time.
If the cougars win, and I beleive they will, they should finish top 10. That is
impressive by any standard. If Utah loses they wont be ranked. I hope Utah
wins though. If BYU loses they will probablky be around 20. TCU will probably
win and of course stay in the top 10. How many conferences will have had as
sucessful of a year? Go MWC!!!
HEY AGGIE: How about "Cougars sure to prove stiff challenge for Beavers."
will take the cougars tale and show 'em what orange classless looks like....I've always cheered for BYU when they didn't play Utah but those days are
over--- I hope Hall gets his butt kicked....
Go get 'em, Cougs.
D news last year quoted Bronco, Jan Jorgensen and a slew of others indicating
they were excited to play another PAC 10 team . . same kind of quotes this year
again . . let's hope for a COMPLETELY different outcome. I watched the Civil
War Thurs. night and it was scary seeing Oregon State's team speed on the edges
with Ja'Quiz Rogers (sp?), the mobile QB with a decent arm, their wideouts etc.
& special team speed. We will need to have exceptional offensive strategy and
efficiency and a solid defensive performance for 60 min to win. Good luck
And where did you play your college football son?And, his media statements
are called "freedom of the press".I prefer his comments over some of the
profanity laced rants of other coaches.When did you last have something to
say that anyone wanted to print? Sorry chico, blogs don't count.
I would like to thank "Aggie" for making the one comment that actually made me
laugh. Plenty try, but you succeeded. These comment boards really should be used
for cracking jokes (no pun intended), since they're usually a joke anyway.
BYU's defense has been suspect this year, but mostly against the pass. OSU is a
run first team. BYU defends the run pretty well. That'll be a good match up.
They'll pass on BYU, but with an offensive pass game more like Utah than TCU.
Should be a good game.
"BYU's Eager for Crack at Oregon State"I think the author could have
chosen a better title than this. It makes all BYU players seem like drug
I live in the pac 10 area and fallow Oregon teams regularly. The MWC looks every
bit as strong as the Pac 10 this year. I look forward to seeing what happens in
#2 Mountain West vs. #2 PAC-10 -- the way MWC bowl games SHOULD be!
Bronco says they're excited to play a ranked team, WOW. Maybe he and they should
have felt more excited a year ago, they should be excited to be playing anywhere
in December. Thanks for the once again priesthood meeting'esq media statements
Bronco.Cougs lose .... AGAIN.
Why don't they just change the name from the Las Vegas bowl to the byu
this time, please BYU. Don't fall flat in the post season. Oregon State is a
very good team that has some amazing players that have proven themselves over a
long PAC10 season. The Beavs have played well in big games and will be ready to
prove themselves. Riley is a good coach and OreState tends to peak later in the
season, not early and then fizzle toward the end. Living in PAC10
country, I'm pretty sure that BeaverNation won't pour beer on BYU fan. Will be
nice to play against a team that has some class.
This is a game of the coach's old alma-mater, if that's not worth playing for
its the highest ranking of these two, in this game!!!
It's great to see two very good ranked opponents in the Las Vegas bowl! And a
#2 from a very good pac-10 conference! Go Cougars and Go Max Hall! Leave us
with an incredible game that will forever match your legacy!
I much rather would have preferred to see the Y down here in Sunny San Diego for
the Poinsettia Bowl, especially after 5 straight LV Bowl appearances; however,
the LV Bowl knows a good thing, ticket & fan base-wise, when they see it. The
Y's D will definitely need to be on their "A Game" for this one. Go Cougs!
11-2 would be a great end to a good season over a good Oregon St team. Go
Cougars we will see you in Vegas! Make it 3/2 in Vegas
With the coaching staff that BYU has, and their predictable play calling, BYU
will NOT win against Oregon State!!