Comments about ‘Teachers should be treated with respect and trust’

I'm saving this article, it is so well stated.

Thank you so much for this timely article! There was a time when teachers and the teaching profession were respected by parents and teachers alike. Teachers were idealistic and willing to work for less pay. Education attracted the best and the brightest.
In the US, those days are gone. Indulgent parents and spoiled children (not to mention most of our legislative leaders) disrespect teachers on a regular basis and make teaching very difficult. Low pay and this disrespect make the profession less attractive, and as a result, graduates seek other employment. Education is no longer getting the best and the brightest.
After 40 years in education, I've seen things go steadily downhill. Although I still believe that most Utah teachers do a fantastic job with what they are given, morale among teachers has dropped. It's hard to motivate yourself when no one seems to appreciate what you do.
I just wish more parents would visit our classrooms and see what we have to put up with. I think they would come away amazed.

I left the teaching profession because I had a desire to be respected--and the level of respect that principals, parents, and students in Utah give to teachers is disgustingly low.
Making two-and-a-half times more after just a couple of years of graduate school was a nice bonus, but the money wasn't the main reason I left teaching. The lack of respect was.

I agree and I am sure many of my peers agree respect and trust is lacking for teachers in Utah today.

We are abused by parents, principals and students.

Shouldn't the public education system work to earn the respect and trust of the public? Our problem isn't funding. Our problem is a broken system which focuses on the teachers and administrators rather than the education needs of the students.

Great Article

Well said.

Let's see how to start this,

oh yea,


Dear John Florez:

You "loudly-boast-out that "Teachers should be treated with respect and trust".


Now clean off your glasses, and listen up.

Don't YOU THINK, for one second, with a 35 year out dated failed Public School system, it's time to "SHUT THEM ALL DOWN", and, get back to "Home Schooling"?.

Plus "STOP" feeding the AFL-CIO Teacher's Union's to?.

I, as a conservative, do.

If Patrent's want a baby sitter, they can hire one themself. NOT teacher's.

When you said teacher's must be treated with respect and trust, you let down your gaurd, as they have sex with their kid's in class and abuse them as well.

You have liberal focuses here, and your doing it "in the name of children", as in "do it for the children". Get real. That started up in the 70's went out in the 90's when the radical feminist movement died.

Now, it's time to get back to "HOME SCHOOLING", we all know that works.

That's my view.

Sincerely,

A Knowledgeable Person.

Teachers are human beings too. Of course there are going to be a FEW bad apples in the bunch (just like there is in ANY group of human beings).

I would suspect that the percentages of bad guys in teaching is WAY lower than in society in general. So if you are going to be afraid of people and cut your children off from people because there are bad guys out there you could NEVER let them go out it public. School would be one of the SAFEST places for them. And HOME statistically would be one of the most at risk places for children (if you study the percentages of where and by whom children are abused).

Just something to think about.

BTW
The kids getting in trouble with teachers have been teenagers (old enough to be taught what to avoid).

The Schroeder letter depicts the problems in education: the individual. Names like "liberal" don't define the problem, they just put a pejorative label on it. Black-and-white confrontation between "conservatives" and "liberals" is a major block to any solution. Polarization and Name Calling are destructive.

Top-down administration that doesn't understand the classroom environment is another part of the problem. A Quality Process needs to be in place. The front line troops (the teachers) aren't being heard. Their service is not facilitated. Administrative Dictatorships never flourish.

Another problem: the attitude of students who are too worried about being "cool" and not concerned enough about learning. The massive immigration we have experienced in recent years has altered the culture in Utah. The old culture valued education. The new culture values acceptance, even when it is on a destructive level.

Teacher's pay. If a person can't make a living in one job, they will move to a job where they can. With the price of an average home as it is and rent is through the roof, is it a surprise good teachers are leaving?

Brother Churck,

Have you walked through a modern high school lately? Hmmmm. I wonder how many parents can teach calculus, oil painting, biology, computer science, physics, world literature, world history (including world religions), with a foreign language or two. Are you up to the task?

Of course, I'm sure you want your medical doctors, nurses, political leaders and attorneys all home schooled, don't you?

Maybe somebody could write a really interesting article on WHY teachers don't get the respect they demand.

RE: Viet Vet | 9:16 a.m. Nov. 23, 2009




Your right, let's just put a pejorative label on it.

"Teacher's pay. If a person can't make a living in one job, they will move to a job where they can. With the price of an average home as it is and rent is through the roof, is it a surprise good teachers are leaving?."



Your statement had a hidden part to it, that should come out, with these liberal teacher's.


TEACHER's Pay. (you left out all the hidden bennies, healthcate for life, pention's etc etc etc etc etc etc after they put in their 20 years, and while they are working also.

Don't even go there and poor mouth Teacher's.


I know better.

Yes, we should all respect our teachers, principal and administrators. We should trust their judgment.

And we should teach our kids to do the same.

However, how many of you taught your kids just the opposite when opposing school decisions to allow the President of the US to address our children.

What a pathetic example of partisan politics. And now, many of you have taught your kids to be partisan also.

And to you brother Chuck. Take off your blinders. With parental involvement and support, our kids can do just fine in public school. It would be safe to say that more kids are sexually abused at home than at school.

C'mon Chuck, there is not only one right way.... you should get out more often.

Somebody asked how many parents could teach calculus, oil painting etc.

To begin with oil painting is something the great painters managed to learn without public education and is not something to be teaching during the Second Great Depression.

Secondly, if parents can't teach Calculus, it may be that public school didn't do a good job of teaching it to THEM. Calculus has been aroud for a long time and I was taught it at school. Some graduates now couldn't even make change let alone learn Calculus.

It WOULD be safe to say that more children are abused at home wouldn't it? But is it true? I have my doubts. I read the "statistics" and know from whence they are derived. It is shocking how many teachers now appear to be having sex with students. Where is the outrage from the teachers about the demons in their midst?

ALL people should be treated with trust and respect. Why not teachers?

About 15-20? years ago the legislature talked of making parental involvement in the schools MANDATORY. The proposal was to make a state law that MANDATED 4 hrs. per parent be spent in the school. With the budget cuts, and the lack of ANY SORT of discipline in the schools, I think the issue could/should be considered again. As I remember; businessmen "shot the idea down" because they just "couldn't give up their employees" even for 4 hrs. per month. Also, some of the teachers (through their union)really weren't too excited about the idea of having parents in the school either. The parent "volunteers" could be trained to understand that they would ALWAYS BE SUBSERVIENT to teachers in the school system and thus, I think be made useful. All the parent volunteers would not necessarily have to be INSIDE the school. Maybe some could build QUALITY playground equipment, mow lawns, keep up the grounds, thus saving money so teacher salaries could be better used!!

As with so many other things in our culture, we think that "SOMEBODY ELSE" should deal with it, rather than US!

Brother Chuck Schroeder, please proofread your writing. If you are the teacher of your home schooled children, spelling and grammar must be a hoot!

RE: @ Brother Chuck Schroeder | 9:42 a.m. Nov. 23, 2009
Brother Churck,

Have you walked through a modern high school lately? Hmmmm. I wonder how many parents can teach calculus, oil painting, biology, computer science, physics, world literature, world history (including world religions), with a foreign language or two.



Get back to Home Schooling and the 3 R's.


All other thing's in Public Schools are a bureaucrat's elective classes for credit's only, not educational at all. Stop dumb-sizeing-down our children.

This article is spot on.

As a teacher I am making enough money (after 20 years).

What I do not get is the hate from the legislature. My local legislator constantly posts anti-public education stuff on his page. Like he thinks he is some kind of hero for hating education. There are always a couple of his cronies that say, "right on! Go get 'em." I always was under the assumption that we were on the same team and wanted the same outcome.

In reality he is just increasing the disrespect for teachers.

I love teaching my students. I love to see them comprehend a difficult subject. I love my work schedule.

What I can't take for much longer is the disrespect from the people on these comment boards. Why the hate for someone that is trying to make our society a better place?

Like I tell my legislator,

I am not the enemy.