Here is a thought...Why on earth is this at all a legal matter? These kids were
having a good time, just trying to make a video with there friends. If the
manager finds it disruptive, he asks them to leave. As far as I have heard,
they left immediately or shortly thereafter, which means they complied to any
directions that were given to them. There is not, as I have ever seen, a posted
warning against the pranking of and/or singing to a drive-thru attendant. We
can argue all day of whether or not this was disruptive to the business and
whatnot, but the fact of this matter is that there is no real reason for this
thing to have ever been brought to a court. It is an exercise of free speech.
Recall Mayor McCheese!
I keep telling myself, "Utah is not provincial, small-minded, and reactionary,"
and then something like this happens. These kids could have been out doing a
lot worse (I just wonder what would have happened if their order was placed in
the style of a Country-Western song, an aria, or a church hymn). I used to get
a meal everyday from this McDonalds on my way to work, but that has now come to
end and I won't patronize another McDonalds franchise in the valley operated by
the same management company until I hear about an apology. Join me, won't you.
Where has plain old common courtesy and respect for other people gone? The boy
will never learn that his actions are not appropriate and offensive to some with
a mother jumping in and defending or justifying his actions. I'll bet she has
been a hovering parent all along the way. Always jumping to his rescue.
From what I read in the news, it was not the Dewalder boy who verbally abused
anyone.Also according to the Utah Supreme Court, vulgar language though it may
offend people is protected by the First Amendment to our U S Constitution. Also,
in the Bible it says that "you who are without sin can cast the first stone". So
who is going to throw that stone?
Yep, you are right. Good for Mrs. Dauwalder for having the courage to teach her
son that he can use vulgar language to verbally harass someone and not have any
consequences for his actions. Good for her for being pro-active and shielding
her son from the responsibility of his actions. Our society needs more kids that
think they are immune to consequences and that Mommy and Daddy will protect
them....P.S. Lest you all think Mrs. Dauwalder has some altruistic
motive behind this she is the one that has pumped this story to the media.
Hmmmm...I wonder if she thinks this hot news is as good as hot coffee from
McDonald's...yeah we need more parents like that...
GOOD FOR THESE PARENTS--ESPECIALLY MRS. DAUWALDER for having the courage to
believe in her child enough to make sure that she insures JUSTICE is served, and
that her child doesn't go through life thinking that he has to be bullied by the
police and McDonalds! A PRO-ACTIVE parent is always the best type of parent to
have! Good for both of them...
Well, I think a boycott of McDonald's in AF would let them know what the people
think of such a silly response to kids pranks. It was not disrupting
business!!!The owner of that McD's franchise needs to know what an
inept manager runs that store!
The boys were wrong for disrupting this business, but make them clean up the
area or have them do a car wash for charity in the parking lot. Let's move on...
If that's how McDonalds treats people I'll stay away. If that is how American
Fark treats people, then I'm definitely not visiting their town or any of their
businesses. Why risk it?
Wow the sad thing about this is that there is more swearing in high school and
middle school. That manager really needs to get fired or Mc.Donalds is gonna go
out of business.
throw the case out and get to some real crime, af. are our taxpayers REALLY
paying for this to be brought to trial? if so, we need to have another election
and rethink the cadidates priorities.
Some things haven't changed. As a kid growing up in Utah, I always felt that
many Utahans were offended anytime kids are having fun. Just laugh in a
restaurant in Manti.
What did they do that was illegal?Sing a song? They left when they
were asked.Say the oh so dreaded 'F' word? That is free speech.Maybe I should have the cops write up the people that can not get your
order irght at that mcdonalds because they do not know english. That seems for
more 'disorderly' than what the kids did.
Oh, the humanity. They dropped the "F" bomb. Won't someone think of the
This has gotten bigger then what it should be. Let it go what a waste of our tax
Wasn't it American Fark where they didn't want the youngsters dancing? How did
that work out? Maybe someone will make it into a commercial. Oh ,they already
did. Good luck with this one Mr. hall monitor. Spare the rod ,spoil the child.
This is also a great way to spend our tax dollars, besides anyone caught rapping
should be flogged and then forced to eat a cold big mac and bag of fries. Excuse
me , I've got to go make a citizens arrest on this senior trying to buy 16 items
in the 15 or less line.
The entire story has probably not been told. BUT, the teens do not need to be
offensive in a prank, at the expense of others. NO, they shouldn't serve time,
but they do probably need the "mouth washing" the above writer suggested.
It sounds like these teens were just being stupid and this whole incident has
been blown out of proportion. I've heard teens in public singing, humming,
swearing and it hasn't offended me. But, if I owned (or managed) a business and
their behavior was becoming disruptive, I would ask them to leave. Apparently
they did leave so I'm not sure why the police were called and why the police
would have responded if no crime had been committed. I'm guessing there might
be more to the story that we just don't know yet.
Good, I hope the kid wins Bigtime. Have we as America evolved into a police
state when you can't even have fun ordering fast food. WOW..this
is ridiculous. The cops should be fired.
The charge is disorderly conduct. Not for the rap, not for the swearing, but
for the entire incident, which in total is accurate. Perhaps if these kids
wanted to make their own version of the YouTube rap they should have come
inside, cleared it with the manager, and then made their movie. Everyone could
have had a good time, then. Instead it came off like a prank and was not well
received. Maybe next time they'll show a little more forethought and
consideration when they want to make a joke. We are a society, lots of people
living together. We need to get along. One ought not to just blindly stumble
thru life having "fun" at the expense of others. A little common couresty goes
a long way.
Speaking as an AFHS grad and attorney, if I were one of these boys' classmates I
would certainly remember this incident the rest of their lives. I would
remember it as one of the most hysterical and ridiculous things that happened in
our high school and share a good laugh and a smile every time I saw them. I bet
they would do the same. This is not a life-changing thing, just a silly prank.
Hopefully the city will realize how ridiculous dragging this out makes them look
and drop the charges as they never should have been brought in the first place!
Only one of the boys used a vulgar word, not the boy fighting the case.
The simple fact in business, is that if no one buys your stuff, then you do not
make money, and go out of business.I wonder what percentage of the
Mcdonalds sales, come from high school kids.The kids in the high school
should stop going to the Mcdonalds.If they were smart Mcdonalds would do
everything they could to encourage kids to hang out at their restaurant.Maybe have a rap contest the winner getting a months of big macs.I
myself do not go there, to me their food is like tv dinners.
In the US we have the freedom of speech. You do not have freedom from offence.
Get offended if you wish, but when we punish people for speaking, then we live
among the Taliban. The kids left when they were asked to leave. No crime was
comitted. If you dont like the way they look or speak and have no problem with
this citation, then watch your back. AF police will get you next. These are the
same people that cited the two 11 year olds for porn trafficing at Forbes. Good
Grief!!! Is this Alfganistan?
Oh my heck, the language: That boy deserves a life sentence with no chance of
Until a SWASTIKA flies over the court house, instead of the American flag, I
think we are still protected by the constitution. Surely I can do something as
simple and mundane as sing my conversations or speech. But if someone is going
to charge me for singing, then the SS have arrived and it is time to push back.
This was a potty mouthed boy that needs his mouth washed out with soap. Then he
can go retrun for his happy meal. Mommy needs to let him get the
spanking he deserves.
What the article fails to mention is that after the teens were asked to leave,
they used the most vulgar, offensive word (starts with f) and sped off. THAT is
the reason for the ticket, not the rap. Not to mention, it is private property
and the restaurant has the right to not serve someone anyway, if they wish. But
that was not the case. The kids used offensive, degrading language
which obviously offended the employees, as it would have offended me.I hope this will be a lesson taught that careless teens need to be reigned in
and have respect for others.
Perhaps Ms. Dauwalder hasn't thought about the long term impact 'her' actions
will have on her son. This scenario is his high school legacy. He will long be
remembered as the McDonald rapper with the overbearing mother. To his
classmates, teachers and community, that will not change. It doesn't matter
what great things he accomplishes in life he will be remembered for what his
mother is doing here. Its interesting to note the boys father is absent.
Perhaps he can see the damage.
These teens were asked to leave and then did, what did they do that was wrong
here?I wish I were on this jury,These teens ought to sue