Paul , If we listened to you the blacks would still not have the Priesthood. The
Sutherland/Eagle forum do not represent the Church or conservative thought.
Paul T. Mero says "I'm a conservative because I'm a Latter-day Saint."Well, Paul, the church has repeatedly stated that it does not endorse any
political party, political platform or candidate, and that members of all
political persuasions can be in good standing. To imply that LDS =
political conservative clearly contradicts the Church's official statements on
the matter of politics.
"Because the church has all the answers"!!!!!!!! I question the claim that
Mormons are the experts on "what it means to be a human being" but they've got
arrogance nailed down. This is disgusting.
Wow! Wow! Wow! And my family wonders why I left the fold. Amazing.
I'm a convert to the LDS Church, and my beliefs are a big reason why I am not a
member of either political party – though I do vote.
It sounds like people are offended that the LDS faith feels like we understand
the purpose of life. I'm sure that Mero never ment to put down other religions.
The LDS faith believes that all religions have good in them and understand many
truths about life and it's purpose. That is what religion is all about, finding
meaning in life. The way Wendy put it, it did sound arrogant. But that is not
the way the LDS church feels about it.
This is hillarious.First, the devout Mormon I admired most was my maternal
grandmother a staunch FDR loving Democrat, who would have been fine with FDR
having 3 more terms.Second, the VAST majority of Conservatives (fiscal and
social) are NOT Mormon, and would scream bloody murder if they thought becoming
a TRUE CONSERVATIVE meant joining the LDS church.The article is by
and for Mormons, nobody else would read it and not howl with laughter.
You understand the purpose of life? Please elaborate. Feel free to give
Hmmmmm wish I could wrap myself up in such a cozy and comforting and warm
blanket of knowing it all (Right Answer); instead, I'd say based on my 37 years
post conception much of life is about ambiguity and complexity, one big
existential ? that sits above our collective heads... IMHO it's far better to
ask hard questions (one's own cogitation) than to look for and accept easy
answers (another's regurgitation).
I think a good Latter-day Saint can be a Republican or a Democrat or an
Independent or a Conservative or a Liberal or just about anything else. And so
can a bad one.
So much conjecture used to justify lots of anger. By their fruits
you shall know them. That's not just a Christian belief. So, go find the
Sutherland Institute's 'fruits'. Then, when you've accumulated a few pages of
the great works they have done and continue to do, come back and post what your
fruits are. And we'll compare. It never ceases to amaze me how
easily people spew their own garbage hidden behind the anonymity that forums
like this offer. LauraBTW - I'm not a member of either
of the polical parties either but I am very policially active.
The blacks likely got the Priesthood long after the would have, certain "true
believers" had not tried to force The Lord's hand.I served a mission
a long time ago in the buckle of the southern Bible Belt. People had pictures
of Jesus with FDR having equal billing.Their originally loved JFK
pictures had become dartboards.By the way, I do have all the
answers, I just don't do a good enough jon of following them
From a Church which is grounded in polygamy. Their morality compas arrow is
The fact that the Sutherland Institute has directly contradicted the Church's
position on the Salt Lake City fair housing law indicates that Mero's claims of
being fully in line with the Church are not justifiable. Beyond that, His
statement that the Church has "all the answers" is a direct contradiction with
believing that God will yet reveal many great and important things. The Church
is led by Jesus Christ and he has all the answers, but he reveals his gospel
line upon line and precept upon precept. To say we have all the answers
is inaccurate. We may understand enough to progress at this point, but there
are many questions that we do not know the answer to.
To the 8:29 commentator, People are offended because Mero speeks in
absolutes. If he really thought the Church had all the answers than he would
not attack them for supporting fair housing laws. If he really believed the
Church had some of the answers, he would have paid attention to their support of
fair housing laws a year ago and not been blindsided by the Church supporting
the fair housing law in SLC. The Church has some answers, but we learn
line upon line and to say we have all the answers is to imply Jesus Christ has
taught us all he knows, which he clearly has not. The reason why
Mero's statements elucidate such reactions is because they are arrogant, and
ignore the real beliefs of the Church.
"Man's chief end is to glorify God and enjoy him forever". The Westminster
confession has the Christian answer to the purpose of life.
It would be great to provide the full text of Mero's speech so we can see
everything he said rather than have to make assumptions based on these few
Pedro,Mero is saying that he's a conservative because he's a
latter-day saint, he didn't say he's a Republican or Democrat because of his
faith. There's a big difference between a system of beliefs (authentic
conservatism) and belonging to a party. The Church does not endorse any party,
platform, or candidate, and it doesn't specifically endorse any particular
ideology, but its teachings seem to align more with conservatism (as Mero
defines it) than with any other ideology.
The story seems to be about why Paul Mero is a conservative and how he draws the
correlation between Mormonism and Conservatism. It does not sound like Paul Mero
is speaking for the Church, nor do I think Paul is speaking for the Church. I
think this is simply a personal insight to Paul Mero and why he is a
The Sutherland Institute is almost always on the conservative to libertarian
side of issues, except one. The Sutherland Institute has taken the side of the
cheap labor employers on the illegal immigration issue. They have strongly
supported Amnesty for illegal aliens. In other words if they are able sneak
across the border they should be allowed to remain in the U.S.This
amnesty position is rooted in both Mr. Mero's (Sutherland Institute) belief in
the LDS philosophy and Libertarianism. The official position of the LDS Church
on illegal immigration is neutrality, however the "unofficial" position seems to
be somewhat different. There is a difference of opinion among
members of both the LDS Church and Libertarians because of that pesky 12th
Article of Faith, which states that "we believe in honoring and sustaining the
law." Many Libertarians believe in the open border concept in order to keep
wages suppressed, while many Mormons believe that by sneaking into the U.S,
coming to Utah and joining the Church, souls can be saved. Therein we find Mr.
Mero and the Sutherland Institute. In my opinion the Sutherland Institute has no
credibility on the illegal immigration issue.
Although boring, this debate will rage and the good Mormon=conservative myth
will keep being told until -- and only until -- one of the senior G.A.s (not
Marlin Jensen) stands up in General Conference (not in a letter) and says (to
Utah Mormons) "We are serious when we say there is enough good (and bad) in
either political party that a worthy LDS can support either in good faith -- as
many of us do and our predecessors have always done. Those who have made
comments (recently and in the past) about the impossibility of being liberal and
Mormon were and are simply wrong."
My, my, my, we are so quick to judge a person without knowing all of the
details. It reminds me of Obama and the "Stupid Police" issue. What he is
saying is when we know better we do and treat persons better and he has gained
knowledge that makes him a better person and should make us all better persons.
"As ye judge, so shall ye be judged"
Where were you when Harry Reid said he was an idiot liberal because he was
"Because the church has all the answers to the purpose and meaning of life, Mero
said,"HA HA HA HA!Oh, pleeeeaaase! Make him stop! I
Actually the Church does teach where we came from, why we are here, and where we
will be going after this life.I happen to know that there are
conservative democrats and liberal republicans. The problem is that neither of
these two aspects live long in the current two party system.I don't
agree with Mero on everything he says nor do I think he is coming close to
speaking for the Church. He is a member of the LDS Church with his own personal
opinions as all of do.To those who are saying the Church is wrong to
teach illegal immigrants the Gospel, let me ask where would Jesus Christ teach
them. Would he tell them to go home to their country and wait for him or would
he stop and teach them where they are? It isn't wrong to teach them anything at
all. It would be wrong to teach them not at all.We are not judging
the individual at all where he lives nor do we feel it wrong to go into prisions
if asked. Christ established his work amoung the dead during the three days
between death and resurrection.
The Sutherland Institute has fallen a LONG WAY since Mero has assumed the
presidency!This speech is an embarrassment to many of us in the
Sutherland Institute and in the LDS Church.
That would be awesome.
I'm still patiently waiting for not just a declaration that you know the purpose
to life...can you give me a synopsis or do I need a couple of boys 40 years
younger than me tell me about golden tablets that no one ever saw(spiritual eyes
Apparently Mr. Mero believes it is ok to discriminate against someone in
employment and housing because they don't approve of their lifestyle. I don't
approve either however treating people as second class citizens is a violation
of our constitution which many conservatives claim to hold in such high esteem.