Comments about ‘Talk about faith, scholar tells BYU’

The last thing we need in America is more religous nuts in office.

The Real Thomas Jefferson Part 1 by Andrew Allison National Center for Constitutional Studies, WDC, 1981,p301, quote, Jefferson wrote to a friend F.A. Van Der Kemp, "The genuine and simple religion of Jesus will one day be restored, such as was practice by Himself.", written in 1820.
Jefferson proposed that our nation's seal be God, leading the children of Israel following the pillar of fire according to author Farley Anderson,The Restoration of our Republic, p.111 quoting W.Cleon Skousen, The Making of Americap. 32-33

Then don't run

To Cat: Your intolerance is astounding. Who are you to decide that an opinion, even a religiously based one, is less than another when it comes to people running for political office? The Constitution forbids that very practice.

You think that religious people are "nuts". Fine. You are entitled to that view. But don't you dare try to tell me that I'm not entitled to my religiously based one.

I believe in God AND in open dialogue. Apparently you do not.

Debra,

You completely and totally lose all credibility when you quote W. Cleon Skousen!

If Jefferson was really a Christian, or even a Deist, don't you think during his lifetime he would have refrained from rewriting the New Testament without all the "hocus pocus" in it? Don't you think he would have openly and cleary professed his faith when he was in the very public and very heated fight with John Adams in the election of 1800? Skousen's warped, apologetic nonsense is infamous for being the antithesis of scholarship!

The problem with religious belief is that it is not susceptible to public scrutiny and debate. We cannot even imagine what kind of public "test" could be used to resolve theological and religious controversies! That is why religious controversies degenerate into hate speech and violence quicker than any other discussion. Unless and until someone can articulate grounds for religious faith that are open to indisputable public examination, religion has no place in politics, academics, business, athletics, or anywhere else. Religions have long traditions of dwelling in deserts. That is where religion belongs.

Atheism is as much a religion as any other. It has beliefs and tenets too, and has become the religion of the state which is unconstitutional too. Religion is not nutty. Pretending that you can believe absolutely nothing is nutty. You think, you speak, therefore you believe something even if that belief is in nothing. You still believe. It\'s still a religion, and is now the state-backed religion.

Don\'t pay any attention to Cats. She is frequently hostile, unaccepting of any views different than her own. Most people just ignore her comments now.

\"Then don\'t run.\" What a terrible comment. Why would you discourage someone from running for office if they are religious; even if they they are zealous about their beliefs. We should welcome diversity in all its\' forms.

Cats, I agree. I would rather share a foxhole with an atheist too.

I like that this guy came to speak at the Y and I like what he said. We do need to speak up and make a difference. We get too caught up in not offending others and wanting to hide our beliefs in our homes when other people sure don't hesitate to offend us. Religion SHOULD NOT be held back from our schools, businesses or athletics. We've kept it out and you can see what kind of a mess we've gotten ourselves into. If people relied more on the God they believe in, we'd have a much better society.

I'll get in the foxhole with an atheist and I'd pray like heck that God would save both him and me. However, if I had my choice I'd rather be in there with someone filled with faith and hope regardless of what religion he is a part of.

I guess if all you people who think we should mix religion with politics then we should have the Taliban run our nation. They are as nutty as the extreme right wing christians and the kkk.

Apparently you haven't been to war, because "there are no atheist in foxholes."

Or if you want Ateist leaders we can find people like Hitler. Who seem to have very same opinions as you.

And bald is a hair color . Atheism is simply the rejection of the idea that there are God/Gods Nothing more than that.There ARE atheists if foxholes folks . Sorry to burst your superstitious dogmatic little religious bubble. I have been to war and at no time did I start believing in superstious nonsense . I was scared, no doubt, but calling on something that I dont think exists did not happen

Hitler claimed publicly that God was on his side.
What the heck are you talking about?
Home schooled?

Re: Cat | 3:37 p.m - Hitler believed in God and was a Catholic until the day he died.

From a 1927 speech: "My feelings as a Christian points me to my Lord and Savior as a fighter. It points me to the man who once in loneliness, surrounded only by a few followers, recognized these Jews for what they were and summoned men to fight against them and who, God's truth! was greatest not as a sufferer but as a fighter. .. How terrific was His fight for the world against the Jewish poison."

He also wrote: "The folkish-minded man, in particular, has the sacred duty, each in his own denomination, of making people stop just talking superficially of God's will, and actually fulfill God's will, and not let God's word be desecrated. For God's will gave men their form, their essence and their abilities. Anyone who destroys His work is declaring war on the Lord's creation, the divine will."

Try again

To "Ateist leaders":
He wasn't the first a-religious, amoral person to try and mislead people using religion as a curtain to hide behind. Religious people haven't been the ones to commit the atrocities. It is people like Hitler falsely doing it in the name of religion. When religion isn't available they just use something else, so doing away with religion would NOT impede them. Yet we WOULD lose all the good that religion does accomplish.
Religious people do need to be much more proactive about confronting Hitler and his ilk.

A very small minority of Americans questioned Mitt Romney's religious faith. Most voters did not vote for Gov. Romney because Gov. Romney is a liberal.

Noah Feldman is speaking of a crime that never occured.

Lennon, Stalin and Chairman Mao, shared your view and values. Be careful what you wish for. If you want fewer relgious people in office be preparded for another Mao experiment. More people have been killed under these three athiets than in all the religious wars.

If athiesm is a religion, then evidently open-mindedness is certainly NOT one of its basic tenets . . . or speaking respectfully to those who don't see things as you do.