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BYU and Utah struck gold with coaching hires
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BYU is probably as good as they will ever be. For what BYU wants to be, fans should accept that.
For those BYU fans who want to smallow a little hard and look at Utah like a BYU Salt Lake and root for a program that takes football seriously, then they can root for Utah. Just try to ignore some of the Utah fans.
Utah is probably the only school capable of beating TCU next year. I hope they can do it just so TCU doesnt start to think they are too good for the MWC.
But undeniably Whit is the superior coach who seems to do a much better job at coaching up to big games.
BYU, well they choke most of their statement games, that has been the pattern.
Utah's defense isn't quite as great as their talked up to be and next year they lose:
Robert Johnson
Joe Dale
R.J. Stanford
Stevenson Sylvester
Mike Wright
Kepa Gaison
Kenape Eliapo
Koa Misi
And you plan on replacing all of those players. . .how?
The only starters you're left with are Brandon Burton and 2 D-lineman.
Oh yeah, and doesn't Dave Reed AND Aiona Key leave next year too?
Jordan Wynn is coming back, and so are your two running backs, I'll give you that too.
So, crunch the numbers, and it looks like Utah might go bowling with 6 wins next year. . .
Utah Fans- Would you be better off, worse, or the same with Bronco at the helm?
BYU Fans- Would you be better off, worse, or the same with Whit at the helm?
Although I am hoping BYU manages to beat AFA and then make it 3 out of the last 4 against the Utes, I hope it is another great game with drama that is long remembered - and yes, I think a certain tight end is still wide open in the end zone, but Dennis Pitta was good enough to make fans forget. BYU and Utah seem dead even this year and about even with AFA. That will make for 2 interesting weeks of Cougar football.
With regards to adjusting expectations, BYU has been very consistent over the past 3 years. I think most of us know exactly what to expect from them....10 win seasons and a finish in the top 2 of the conference.
Both teams are very lucky with their coaches, but the story will be told over the next 10-15 years.
Bronco loves to see his name in print and his words in print. Why doesnt he just coach and forget the press coverage that he loves. Love the Y. Don't care fot the coach. Don't like Utah, but I do like the coach. Go figure.
I don't know which nation you live in, but having split time between Connecticut and Indiana over the last five years I hear about BYU football much more often than Utah in the local and national press, whether that news is good or bad. While Utah is one the rise and is certainly respected nationally, I wouldn't count BYU out just yet.
Urban won two outright championships in two years. Kyle has won one in five years. Urban lost 1 MWC game TOTAL in 2 years. Kyle has lost more than 1 MWC every year but 1.
Kyle's done a good job at Utah but to say he has surpassed what Urban did is just not true.
But I agree that Coach K is a better coach.
He has won big games --with the exception of TCU last week-end. Also, at the national level, he is there too. COY. BCS. Most importantly, not too many coaches at the mid-major level can go 10-2 in a rebuilding year.
Let me be the first to say this...expect Utah to be in the race for another BCS next year.
SoCalUtahFan
PS. Good article, Dick.
There is a consistency problem that is obvious - it goes to the coaching staff.
I am not one of your regular fans but this is a nice article. One observation though. I can understand the resentment from a few BYU fans about Kyle's success at a national level but I would have thought you would be above the the pettiness. Utah didn't just participate in two BCS games, they won and did so convincingly. I know you "bleed blue" (remember those ridiculous billboards at point of the mountain) but perhaps you could give some credit to the Utes for their BCS wins and Coach Whit about his win over Alabama. They didn't just participate. I supposed until BYU gets to a BCS game and maybe wins we will continue to listen to Cougar fans try to talk up Bronco's success while wishing for the success Kyle achieved. Yes Bronco has one more win in the two coaches careers but one of Kyle's has been BCS and I am sure Bronco and the rest of Cougar Nation would give up their conference championships to be able to say the same. Perhaps I have higher expectations of fans and writers. But I never give up hoping because,
Magic Happens!
How embarrasing for you guys.
Can your dad beat up my dad?
Magic Happens!
Which coach is better? I don't know, but either can bring chips to my house for the Super Bowl.
EARTH TO UTE FANS: Your "speedy" defense just got ripped for 55 points and 549 yards against TCU. Aside from an opening-season rout of FCS team Texas State, that's the Frog's best offensive performance this season.
That's more points and yards than BYU allowed. More than Colorado State, Air Force, SMU and Virginia. Even UNLV's defense fared better against TCU than the Utes did.
If I were you, I'd pay more attention to how your vulnerable defense will play against good passing offenses like San Diego State and BYU, instead of trying to pretend that you were somehow competitive in Fort Worth last week.
That's debatable. Kyle Whittingham has 16 losses; 7 have been by 10 points or more.
Bronco Mendenhall has 15 losses; 8 have been by 10 points or more. I don't see much difference.
Furthermore, during his career Mendenhall's teams have lost only once to teams which finished the season with a losing record; Whittingham has done it three times, including a head-scratching 27-0 shutout at the hands of a 2-10 UNLV team.
So one could say that Whit is better at getting his teams motivated for a big game, but he does a lousy job of keeping them motivated for the small ones.
Something to keep in mind with San Diego State coming to RES this week.
Keep up the good work, gentlemen!
maybe instead the headline should be...
BYU and Utah are both paying a pile of gold to their coaches.
Oh, and let's also hope that TCU's Gary Patterson sticks in the league! This is the first time in my life that I've seen back-to-back years that multiple conference games really matter on the national scene. Awesome!
Whitt didn't just step into something Urban built, Urban came in won with coach Mac's players and left. Coach Whitt had to rebuild almost an entire coaching staff. Utah lost most of the starters on both sides of the ball and Whitt didn't have much behind the starters that left, so CHECK THE FACTS.
And what about expectations for each as they took over? Kyle took over a school that had just become the first BCS busters. While Bronco took over a school coming off 3 straight losing seasons. All Bronco had to do was win more games than he lost, while Kyle had to try and live up to Urban.
They both had their work cutout for them, and have both done very well.
Both coaches have been on the national radar, and both got beat by a very excellent TCU team. Each coach is having success in his program. Because of these 3 great coaches in the MWC, I believe the league is better than it has ever been. And whoever said that 50 percent of the teams have to lose every week, is right on. And now Southern Cal and Notre Dame are among them. Wow.
Unfortunately the lame-brained fans in just Utah can't let IT go.
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