Brad Rock: Utes exposed as a good, not great football team


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  • Ute man
    Nov. 16, 2009 1:37 p.m.

    This was a tough loss to take - but at least we didn't lose by 31....
    at home......
    with a senior QB.....

    True - Utah was overmatched, & the inconsistent play finally caught up with us. True this will sting. But we will remember!

    And unlike other teams we will make the adjustments necessary and we will continue to recruit more athletes into the program. We will bring the pain to San Diego & BYU....

  • Not surprised
    Nov. 16, 2009 12:31 p.m.

    I was not suprised by either result this year, BYU getting worked, or the Utes getting worked. TCU is one of the best teams in the country this year. BYU and Utah are on the the best teams in the conference this year. TCU was better than both of them last year, but Utah prevailed in a home game,Utah also upset Alabama. Utah was not the best team in the conference last year. TCU was, and they are this year by a wider margin. If the MWC wants respect. BYU and Utah need to get better all the time. TCU is doing their part right now. The way I see it. TCU is firmly established themselves as the front runner of this conference now and BYU and Utah need to step it up to that level if they want to remain relevant as BCS busters or as top 25 teams.

  • fruit
    Nov. 16, 2009 12:23 p.m.

    Utes are STILL ahead of BYU in the latest BCS.... How you like them apples?

  • Expectations
    Nov. 16, 2009 12:13 p.m.

    Hey Blew fans,

    Why don't you think back to the begining of the season, where was the majority expecting your team to be? In contention for a MWC conference, BCS and a Perfect Season with a Heisman trophy QB.

    Where were they expecting the UTES to be? Rebuilding, lucky to escape the seaon with less than 3 losses. Hoping for a chance at a share of the conference.

    Again, you have under acheived, the coach is frustrated with your ignorance and is making excuses about not having enough time to prepare like other schools.

    Maybe you should start living right and your luck will turn.

  • Ratman
    Nov. 16, 2009 10:20 a.m.

    Rock, I can tell you've been waiting to use that biased writeup for a long time now. Yes, the Utes lost to TCU on the road by 27. Let's see now...a couple of weeks ago TDS lost to the same team AT HOME by 31. So tell me, using the same logic, does that mean your beloved zoobs aren't as good as the Utes?

  • @BYU wont learn
    Nov. 15, 2009 7:56 p.m.

    wow, awesome insight I think you are on to something...you should talk to Coach Mendenhall and see if he won't let call the shots this week, you sound like you've lots of experience running an D1 offense. I would love to to see how well you would do

  • BYU wont learn
    Nov. 15, 2009 6:08 p.m.

    Cougar fans know for sure that coach Anae won't be using this film to learn how to beat the U defense. In fact, coach Anae will ensure to use the same weak offensive strategy that barely keeps us in games we should win big. Any cougar fan who things the BYU offense will learn something from what TCU did to Utah is sorely mistaken.

    Apparently running the ball against a weak defense only takes place on two or three series a game...or throwing screen passes to keep the D-line guessing is only something to do twice a game. Way to go Anae, let's keep games close.

  • montanacutter
    Nov. 15, 2009 5:46 p.m.

    Well, here we are Utah and BYU meet in a few weeks. That game will be for who is the best in the state. No BCS game, no MWC championship game, just a game.

    Like life everything changes. TCU is the one this year. Next year is another story. Utah and BYU will reload for next year! TCU has peaked this year end of story.

  • trueblue
    Nov. 15, 2009 5:01 p.m.

    The Utah BYU game is a toss up. Neither of these teams realy look that good. All this talk about dominance by one team over the other is a joke. Wake up fans, Your teams are a little better than average. If my cougars play like they did against New Mexico, they will get pounded by Air Force and Utah. I hope they wake up, play intense and destroy the Utes in provo. Heres to Hope !

  • Face the Facts!
    Nov. 15, 2009 3:59 p.m.

    I dont care if you lost by 1 or by 100, both the Utes and the Cougars were clearly outmatched by a much better TCU team. But who cares? Niether team will win the conference and neither team will go to a BCS bowl game. They have both had "average" seasons. End of discussion!

  • T Crushed U
    Nov. 15, 2009 3:07 p.m.

    Not just exposed but embarrassed too. Utah after listening to your unrealistic smack talk last week, I love it. You gave so much bulletin board material to TCU I'm surprised they didn't onside kick when up by 30. You got what you deserved. What was that you were screaming last year,"Respect Us". You gotta give what you want.

  • Dennis Green
    Nov. 15, 2009 2:09 p.m.

    The Utes are exactly who we thought they were.

    And poster "AKK" is exactly who I thought he was. The Utes gave TCU their best shot and lost by 27 while BYU quit and lost by 25??? Nice math skills, Einstein.

  • @Pretty decent little team
    Nov. 15, 2009 2:03 p.m.

    The Cougar fans have know for quite some time that TCU is the class of the MWC this year. It has nothing to do with "hate Utah syndrom" and more to do with recognizing reality. The fact that many Utah fans (not all) did not understand this does not mean that all BYU fans are in a state of Hate Utah.

  • Whatever
    Nov. 15, 2009 1:52 p.m.

    It's funny, because all season long, and especially all this week, there has been nothing but smack talk from all the Ute fans about how they "CAN play with the big boys", unlike the "little brothers down south".

    The Sugar Bowl and the streak of 29/30 games has been brought up too many times. The all-time record of the U vs. TCU was used as proof that somehow the Utes had a way of defeating TCU that we poor Cougars could only wish for.

    Well, that is why your team was EXPOSED this week as mediocre at best. Most of us already knew the Utes weren't a great team in 2009. It just took this beating for UTE fans to wake up and realize that fact.

  • Wynn was lucky..
    Nov. 15, 2009 1:51 p.m.

    ...to have Reed at the end of most of his passes. Without some amazing catches by Reed, Wynn gets less than 100 yards passing.

  • bigutefan
    Nov. 15, 2009 1:39 p.m.

    Losing to Air Force will be the end for you Yner fans! Funny that a freshmen qb on the road can score 28 points against the best defense in college football. Yet that mighty oh so powerful offense and senior heisman wanna be qb could only manage 7 points in Provo. TCU is a great team, no excuses, thought the Utah defense would be better against them, but at least now Utah is not the only MWC team carrying the conference. When might the Yners do their part to contribute to the conference? Stick your 84 National Championship in the past, since it was the WAC. What have you done for the MWC? NOTHING!

  • Pretty decent little team?
    Nov. 15, 2009 12:57 p.m.

    How condescending is that?

    Throughout Urban Meyer's 2 years, Cougar fan hated the Utes success. But they kept saying "Well, he's just going to leave you". That's all Cougar fan had. Urban did, and Cougar fan rejoiced.

    Kyle Whittingham stumbled out of the gate. Cougar fan rejoiced- "The Utes are bad again, just like it should be". Although, in reality, the Ute program had been as good as the Cougar program throughout the nineties.

    Then the Utes won 29 out of 31. Went undefeated last season. Went to another BSC bowl. Won another BSC bowl. Beat #2 Alabama by 2 TD's in the process. An Alabama team who had been ranked #1 for nearly half the season. This time, Cougar fan couldn't say the coach is going to leave. Frustration has been boiling over for Cougar fan for 2 years.

    Cougar fan is releasing that 2 years of frustration after the Ute loss to TCU. But guess what? TCU may be the best team in the country. Celebrate now, Cougar fan- the Utes are not going anywhere this time.

    I wonder if an LA columnist called USC a pretty decent little team this morning?

  • No Defense
    Nov. 15, 2009 12:22 p.m.

    Can't blame this on a new QB. TCU was more physical and had more speed than a weak defence.

    nough said

    Nov. 15, 2009 12:16 p.m.


    AVERAGE PAC 10--64.0


  • akk
    Nov. 15, 2009 11:22 a.m.

    There is no shame in losing to TCU... they played great. Utah wasn't exposed they were beaten by a better team on their home field who had revenge on their mind and were playing for a BCS spot. We got there best game and they worked us. I was happy that they DIDN'T quit like BYU did and am excited for the future. We will learn alot about the Utes by how they bounce back against San Deigo St. GO UTES!!!

  • A Man's Perspective
    Nov. 15, 2009 11:19 a.m.

    Any realistic Utah fan knows that they are a good team and not great this year. I have been around Utah fans all season, and except for a minority of yahoo Utah fans on this board and another, every Utah fan I have run into expected more losses this season, including myself. Even if Utah loses to BYU, a 3-loss regular season exceeds my expectations.

    I do, however, think you should give a bit more credit to Jordan Wynn. Considering that the kid is just out of high school, and had only one full game of experience (against a terrible team), and to throw over 200 yards against that defense is in my opinion a rather pleasant surprise. I didn't expect that. However, it is coupled with a truly pathetic defensive effort. Utah's defense looked hurt, scared, and not up to the challenge. And Utah's penalties showed a lack of discipline. The defense goes home with its tail between its legs and a bloody nose and black eye. The playground bully beat them and beat them hard.

  • JW Morrison
    Nov. 15, 2009 10:51 a.m.

    As a BYU fan I have to say the BYU loss was worse than the Utah loss. I rooted for the Utes to win but TCU has an excellent team and I hope they prove it when they beat the BCS team they will be matched up with.

  • Laser
    Nov. 15, 2009 8:52 a.m.

    Should have been an 8 win season? Is this writer serious? When USC loses to Oregon and Oregon puts up 55 on them, they stay in the top 10 and it's because Oregon is good. When Utah loses to a fantastic TCU team that is probably the best team in the country (way better than Oregon) it's because the Utes are lousy. Thanks, Deseret News. Your true bias is revealed.

  • Best Ever
    Nov. 15, 2009 8:45 a.m.

    Utah was not "exposed". We have known all along what was going to happen.

    TCU happens to be the Best team the MWC has ever produced.

  • The Utes
    Nov. 15, 2009 8:39 a.m.

    are exactly what the Cougar fans have been saying all year long. A good but not great team. Kind of like the Cougars. We'll find out which team is better at LES.

    Nov. 15, 2009 8:24 a.m.

    Not sure what to think about this article.. seems pretty accurate but a little angry and biased.

    Wouldn't mind seeing you "expose" the TDS on their efforts yesterday with their "vetted and experienced" senior QB playing the worst team in the MWC.

    TCU was beyond good in all aspects of the game their experienced Offense and Defense "put the rails down and ran the tracks hard amnd fast".

    It really is a win win for the MWC having TCU so powerful.

    And the bonus...Boise will get no ride to a BCS bowl... as it should be for the medium sized fish in a really small WAC pond.

    Hope BYU or Utah get to play a slap BSU around while TCU is playing the big time.

  • heh, heh
    Nov. 15, 2009 8:16 a.m.

    Now it's a rebuilding year? Whatever excuse fits, I guess. The Utes haven't played anyone until now, and I include Oregon since the Ducks were playing well enough at that point to maybe beat their grandmothers. Now the Utes have real teams to play in the last three weeks and their ranking will show just how rank they really are. Better luck next year - or the year after, or the year after....

  • Anonymous
    Nov. 15, 2009 7:12 a.m.

    Rock, we have heard this rebuilding "stuff" twice this year, once after the Oregon loss and today. This is not anymore of a rebuilding year for Utah, than any other school in the country. What it is, is a year where Utah has 4 hard games and 8 very easy games. So far they handled the easy games just fine, some poor outing but they still won. What is ugly though, is that versus the hard teams, they are now 1-2. They beat a good Air Force team but had to go to overtime to do it. When you only play 4 hard games you have to do better if you want that "greatness" tag.

    Next year, Utah has a more difficult schedule. They need to be better prepared for the hard games and do much better in the easy games.

  • In Utah's defense
    Nov. 15, 2009 5:53 a.m.

    Not many teams could hang with the TCU this year. I couldn't name more than 2... maybe three. The sad part is that they won't get to play for the NC and they would probably win it all.

  • Congrats TCU!
    Nov. 15, 2009 5:09 a.m.

    Congrats to the Frogs! They deserve it as well as the Utes getting what they deserved. I hope their lower margin of victory doesn't keep them out of the BCS!

    Whoever shows up with their "A" game will win the BYU/Utah game. If the BYU team that played New Mexico gets out of bed on the 28th, the cougars will get worked.

  • Anonymous
    Nov. 15, 2009 4:44 a.m.

    exposed is an understatement hahahhahaha

  • Trademark Infringement
    Nov. 15, 2009 2:12 a.m.

    Dear Utah Utes,

    We have reviewed your performance in your big game against TCU on Saturday. Your performance has been determined to infringe on our trademark for performances in big games. At this time, we formally request that you discontinue this trademark infringement.

    BYU Cougars

    Nov. 15, 2009 1:49 a.m.

    I think the Utes fans expectations of their team got exposed against TCU. If I remember correctly, Utah was picked to finish 3rd in the conference in the preseason and it was supposed to be a rebuilding year for them. Too bad they blew Wynn's redshirt.

    Anyways, this board should be interesting later with BYU and Ute fans arguing on who's loss was worse. In my opinion only scoring 7 points at home for BYU and Utah giving up a double nickle in points on the road are equally pathetic.

  • See What Happens
    Nov. 15, 2009 1:05 a.m.

    when you play a team with a winning record...with a QB who was completely overmatched....embarrassing. And actually the score was closer than the game....Total TCU dominance.

  • Title too long...
    Nov. 15, 2009 12:50 a.m.

    Just "Utes Exposed" would have been plenty...pretenders abound! Your team quit and your defense was horrible.