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Brad Rock: Utes exposed as a good, not great football team
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Title too long... | 12:50 a.m. Nov. 15, 2009
Just "Utes Exposed" would have been plenty...pretenders abound! Your
team quit and your defense was horrible.
See What Happens | 1:05 a.m. Nov. 15, 2009
when you play a team with a winning record...with a QB who was completely
overmatched....embarrassing. And actually the score was closer than the
game....Total TCU dominance.
EXPOSED? | 1:49 a.m. Nov. 15, 2009
I think the Utes fans expectations of their team got exposed against TCU. If I
remember correctly, Utah was picked to finish 3rd in the conference in the
preseason and it was supposed to be a rebuilding year for them. Too bad they
blew Wynn's redshirt.
Anyways, this board should be interesting later with BYU and Ute fans arguing on who's loss was worse. In my opinion only scoring 7 points at home for BYU and Utah giving up a double nickle in points on the road are equally pathetic.
Anyways, this board should be interesting later with BYU and Ute fans arguing on who's loss was worse. In my opinion only scoring 7 points at home for BYU and Utah giving up a double nickle in points on the road are equally pathetic.
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Trademark Infringement | 2:12 a.m. Nov. 15, 2009
Dear Utah Utes,
We have reviewed your performance in your big game against TCU on Saturday. Your performance has been determined to infringe on our trademark for performances in big games. At this time, we formally request that you discontinue this trademark infringement.
Sincerely,
BYU Cougars
We have reviewed your performance in your big game against TCU on Saturday. Your performance has been determined to infringe on our trademark for performances in big games. At this time, we formally request that you discontinue this trademark infringement.
Sincerely,
BYU Cougars
Anonymous | 4:44 a.m. Nov. 15, 2009
exposed is an understatement hahahhahaha
Congrats TCU! | 5:09 a.m. Nov. 15, 2009
Congrats to the Frogs! They deserve it as well as the Utes getting what they
deserved. I hope their lower margin of victory doesn't keep them out of the
BCS!
Whoever shows up with their "A" game will win the BYU/Utah game. If the BYU team that played New Mexico gets out of bed on the 28th, the cougars will get worked.
Whoever shows up with their "A" game will win the BYU/Utah game. If the BYU team that played New Mexico gets out of bed on the 28th, the cougars will get worked.
In Utah's defense | 5:53 a.m. Nov. 15, 2009
Not many teams could hang with the TCU this year. I couldn't name more
than 2... maybe three. The sad part is that they won't get to play for the
NC and they would probably win it all.
Anonymous | 7:12 a.m. Nov. 15, 2009
Rock, we have heard this rebuilding "stuff" twice this year, once
after the Oregon loss and today. This is not anymore of a rebuilding year for
Utah, than any other school in the country. What it is, is a year where Utah
has 4 hard games and 8 very easy games. So far they handled the easy games just
fine, some poor outing but they still won. What is ugly though, is that versus
the hard teams, they are now 1-2. They beat a good Air Force team but had to go
to overtime to do it. When you only play 4 hard games you have to do better if
you want that "greatness" tag.
Next year, Utah has a more difficult schedule. They need to be better prepared for the hard games and do much better in the easy games.
Next year, Utah has a more difficult schedule. They need to be better prepared for the hard games and do much better in the easy games.
heh, heh | 8:16 a.m. Nov. 15, 2009
Now it's a rebuilding year? Whatever excuse fits, I guess. The Utes
haven't played anyone until now, and I include Oregon since the Ducks were
playing well enough at that point to maybe beat their grandmothers. Now the
Utes have real teams to play in the last three weeks and their ranking will show
just how rank they really are. Better luck next year - or the year after, or
the year after....
HMMMM | 8:24 a.m. Nov. 15, 2009
Not sure what to think about this article.. seems pretty accurate but a little
angry and biased.
Wouldn't mind seeing you "expose" the TDS on their efforts yesterday with their "vetted and experienced" senior QB playing the worst team in the MWC.
TCU was beyond good in all aspects of the game their experienced Offense and Defense "put the rails down and ran the tracks hard amnd fast".
It really is a win win for the MWC having TCU so powerful.
And the bonus...Boise will get no ride to a BCS bowl... as it should be for the medium sized fish in a really small WAC pond.
Hope BYU or Utah get to play a slap BSU around while TCU is playing the big time.
Wouldn't mind seeing you "expose" the TDS on their efforts yesterday with their "vetted and experienced" senior QB playing the worst team in the MWC.
TCU was beyond good in all aspects of the game their experienced Offense and Defense "put the rails down and ran the tracks hard amnd fast".
It really is a win win for the MWC having TCU so powerful.
And the bonus...Boise will get no ride to a BCS bowl... as it should be for the medium sized fish in a really small WAC pond.
Hope BYU or Utah get to play a slap BSU around while TCU is playing the big time.
The Utes | 8:39 a.m. Nov. 15, 2009
are exactly what the Cougar fans have been saying all year long. A good but not
great team. Kind of like the Cougars. We'll find out which team is better
at LES.
Best Ever | 8:45 a.m. Nov. 15, 2009
Utah was not "exposed". We have known all along what was going to
happen.
TCU happens to be the Best team the MWC has ever produced.
TCU happens to be the Best team the MWC has ever produced.
Laser | 8:52 a.m. Nov. 15, 2009
Should have been an 8 win season? Is this writer serious? When USC loses to
Oregon and Oregon puts up 55 on them, they stay in the top 10 and it's
because Oregon is good. When Utah loses to a fantastic TCU team that is
probably the best team in the country (way better than Oregon) it's because
the Utes are lousy. Thanks, Deseret News. Your true bias is revealed.
JW Morrison | 10:51 a.m. Nov. 15, 2009
As a BYU fan I have to say the BYU loss was worse than the Utah loss. I rooted
for the Utes to win but TCU has an excellent team and I hope they prove it when
they beat the BCS team they will be matched up with.
A Man's Perspective | 11:19 a.m. Nov. 15, 2009
Any realistic Utah fan knows that they are a good team and not great this year.
I have been around Utah fans all season, and except for a minority of yahoo Utah
fans on this board and another, every Utah fan I have run into expected more
losses this season, including myself. Even if Utah loses to BYU, a 3-loss
regular season exceeds my expectations.
I do, however, think you should give a bit more credit to Jordan Wynn. Considering that the kid is just out of high school, and had only one full game of experience (against a terrible team), and to throw over 200 yards against that defense is in my opinion a rather pleasant surprise. I didn't expect that. However, it is coupled with a truly pathetic defensive effort. Utah's defense looked hurt, scared, and not up to the challenge. And Utah's penalties showed a lack of discipline. The defense goes home with its tail between its legs and a bloody nose and black eye. The playground bully beat them and beat them hard.
I do, however, think you should give a bit more credit to Jordan Wynn. Considering that the kid is just out of high school, and had only one full game of experience (against a terrible team), and to throw over 200 yards against that defense is in my opinion a rather pleasant surprise. I didn't expect that. However, it is coupled with a truly pathetic defensive effort. Utah's defense looked hurt, scared, and not up to the challenge. And Utah's penalties showed a lack of discipline. The defense goes home with its tail between its legs and a bloody nose and black eye. The playground bully beat them and beat them hard.
akk | 11:22 a.m. Nov. 15, 2009
There is no shame in losing to TCU... they played great. Utah wasn't
exposed they were beaten by a better team on their home field who had revenge on
their mind and were playing for a BCS spot. We got there best game and they
worked us. I was happy that they DIDN'T quit like BYU did and am excited
for the future. We will learn alot about the Utes by how they bounce back
against San Deigo St. GO UTES!!!
REDS POWER RANKING | 12:16 p.m. Nov. 15, 2009
TCU---118.1
BYU---65.5
UTAH--65.4
BOISE-65.3
OTHERS-
TEXAS--101.5
FLORIDA--101.4
USC-----78.8
AVERAGE PAC 10--64.0
LAS VEGAS BOWL SCORE--PAC 10-28 MWC-27
BYU---65.5
UTAH--65.4
BOISE-65.3
OTHERS-
TEXAS--101.5
FLORIDA--101.4
USC-----78.8
AVERAGE PAC 10--64.0
LAS VEGAS BOWL SCORE--PAC 10-28 MWC-27
No Defense | 12:22 p.m. Nov. 15, 2009
Can't blame this on a new QB. TCU was more physical and had more speed
than a weak defence.
nough said
nough said
Pretty decent little team? | 12:57 p.m. Nov. 15, 2009
How condescending is that?
Throughout Urban Meyer's 2 years, Cougar fan hated the Utes success. But they kept saying "Well, he's just going to leave you". That's all Cougar fan had. Urban did, and Cougar fan rejoiced.
Kyle Whittingham stumbled out of the gate. Cougar fan rejoiced- "The Utes are bad again, just like it should be". Although, in reality, the Ute program had been as good as the Cougar program throughout the nineties.
Then the Utes won 29 out of 31. Went undefeated last season. Went to another BSC bowl. Won another BSC bowl. Beat #2 Alabama by 2 TD's in the process. An Alabama team who had been ranked #1 for nearly half the season. This time, Cougar fan couldn't say the coach is going to leave. Frustration has been boiling over for Cougar fan for 2 years.
Cougar fan is releasing that 2 years of frustration after the Ute loss to TCU. But guess what? TCU may be the best team in the country. Celebrate now, Cougar fan- the Utes are not going anywhere this time.
I wonder if an LA columnist called USC a pretty decent little team this morning?
Throughout Urban Meyer's 2 years, Cougar fan hated the Utes success. But they kept saying "Well, he's just going to leave you". That's all Cougar fan had. Urban did, and Cougar fan rejoiced.
Kyle Whittingham stumbled out of the gate. Cougar fan rejoiced- "The Utes are bad again, just like it should be". Although, in reality, the Ute program had been as good as the Cougar program throughout the nineties.
Then the Utes won 29 out of 31. Went undefeated last season. Went to another BSC bowl. Won another BSC bowl. Beat #2 Alabama by 2 TD's in the process. An Alabama team who had been ranked #1 for nearly half the season. This time, Cougar fan couldn't say the coach is going to leave. Frustration has been boiling over for Cougar fan for 2 years.
Cougar fan is releasing that 2 years of frustration after the Ute loss to TCU. But guess what? TCU may be the best team in the country. Celebrate now, Cougar fan- the Utes are not going anywhere this time.
I wonder if an LA columnist called USC a pretty decent little team this morning?
bigutefan | 1:39 p.m. Nov. 15, 2009
Losing to Air Force will be the end for you Yner fans! Funny that a freshmen qb
on the road can score 28 points against the best defense in college football.
Yet that mighty oh so powerful offense and senior heisman wanna be qb could only
manage 7 points in Provo. TCU is a great team, no excuses, thought the Utah
defense would be better against them, but at least now Utah is not the only MWC
team carrying the conference. When might the Yners do their part to contribute
to the conference? Stick your 84 National Championship in the past, since it
was the WAC. What have you done for the MWC? NOTHING!
Wynn was lucky.. | 1:51 p.m. Nov. 15, 2009
...to have Reed at the end of most of his passes. Without some amazing catches
by Reed, Wynn gets less than 100 yards passing.
Whatever | 1:52 p.m. Nov. 15, 2009
It's funny, because all season long, and especially all this week, there
has been nothing but smack talk from all the Ute fans about how they "CAN
play with the big boys", unlike the "little brothers down
south".
The Sugar Bowl and the streak of 29/30 games has been brought up too many times. The all-time record of the U vs. TCU was used as proof that somehow the Utes had a way of defeating TCU that we poor Cougars could only wish for.
Well, that is why your team was EXPOSED this week as mediocre at best. Most of us already knew the Utes weren't a great team in 2009. It just took this beating for UTE fans to wake up and realize that fact.
The Sugar Bowl and the streak of 29/30 games has been brought up too many times. The all-time record of the U vs. TCU was used as proof that somehow the Utes had a way of defeating TCU that we poor Cougars could only wish for.
Well, that is why your team was EXPOSED this week as mediocre at best. Most of us already knew the Utes weren't a great team in 2009. It just took this beating for UTE fans to wake up and realize that fact.
@Pretty decent little team | 2:03 p.m. Nov. 15, 2009
The Cougar fans have know for quite some time that TCU is the class of the MWC
this year. It has nothing to do with "hate Utah syndrom" and more to
do with recognizing reality. The fact that many Utah fans (not all) did not
understand this does not mean that all BYU fans are in a state of Hate Utah.
Dennis Green | 2:09 p.m. Nov. 15, 2009
The Utes are exactly who we thought they were.
And poster "AKK" is exactly who I thought he was. The Utes gave TCU their best shot and lost by 27 while BYU quit and lost by 25??? Nice math skills, Einstein.
And poster "AKK" is exactly who I thought he was. The Utes gave TCU their best shot and lost by 27 while BYU quit and lost by 25??? Nice math skills, Einstein.
T Crushed U | 3:07 p.m. Nov. 15, 2009
Not just exposed but embarrassed too. Utah after listening to your unrealistic
smack talk last week, I love it. You gave so much bulletin board material to
TCU I'm surprised they didn't onside kick when up by 30. You got what
you deserved. What was that you were screaming last year,"Respect Us".
You gotta give what you want.
Face the Facts! | 3:59 p.m. Nov. 15, 2009
I dont care if you lost by 1 or by 100, both the Utes and the Cougars were
clearly outmatched by a much better TCU team. But who cares? Niether team will
win the conference and neither team will go to a BCS bowl game. They have both
had "average" seasons. End of discussion!
trueblue | 5:01 p.m. Nov. 15, 2009
The Utah BYU game is a toss up. Neither of these teams realy look that good.
All this talk about dominance by one team over the other is a joke. Wake up
fans, Your teams are a little better than average. If my cougars play like they
did against New Mexico, they will get pounded by Air Force and Utah. I hope they
wake up, play intense and destroy the Utes in provo. Heres to Hope !
montanacutter | 5:46 p.m. Nov. 15, 2009
Well, here we are Utah and BYU meet in a few weeks. That game will be for who
is the best in the state. No BCS game, no MWC championship game, just a game.
Like life everything changes. TCU is the one this year. Next year is another story. Utah and BYU will reload for next year! TCU has peaked this year end of story.
Like life everything changes. TCU is the one this year. Next year is another story. Utah and BYU will reload for next year! TCU has peaked this year end of story.
BYU wont learn | 6:08 p.m. Nov. 15, 2009
Cougar fans know for sure that coach Anae won't be using this film to learn
how to beat the U defense. In fact, coach Anae will ensure to use the same weak
offensive strategy that barely keeps us in games we should win big. Any cougar
fan who things the BYU offense will learn something from what TCU did to Utah is
sorely mistaken.
Apparently running the ball against a weak defense only takes place on two or three series a game...or throwing screen passes to keep the D-line guessing is only something to do twice a game. Way to go Anae, let's keep games close.
Apparently running the ball against a weak defense only takes place on two or three series a game...or throwing screen passes to keep the D-line guessing is only something to do twice a game. Way to go Anae, let's keep games close.
@BYU wont learn | 7:56 p.m. Nov. 15, 2009
wow, awesome insight I think you are on to something...you should talk to Coach
Mendenhall and see if he won't let call the shots this week, you sound like
you've lots of experience running an D1 offense. I would love to to see
how well you would do
Ratman | 10:20 a.m. Nov. 16, 2009
Rock, I can tell you've been waiting to use that biased writeup for a long
time now. Yes, the Utes lost to TCU on the road by 27. Let's see now...a
couple of weeks ago TDS lost to the same team AT HOME by 31. So tell me, using
the same logic, does that mean your beloved zoobs aren't as good as the
Utes?
Expectations | 12:13 p.m. Nov. 16, 2009
Hey Blew fans,
Why don't you think back to the begining of the season, where was the majority expecting your team to be? In contention for a MWC conference, BCS and a Perfect Season with a Heisman trophy QB.
Where were they expecting the UTES to be? Rebuilding, lucky to escape the seaon with less than 3 losses. Hoping for a chance at a share of the conference.
Again, you have under acheived, the coach is frustrated with your ignorance and is making excuses about not having enough time to prepare like other schools.
Maybe you should start living right and your luck will turn.
Why don't you think back to the begining of the season, where was the majority expecting your team to be? In contention for a MWC conference, BCS and a Perfect Season with a Heisman trophy QB.
Where were they expecting the UTES to be? Rebuilding, lucky to escape the seaon with less than 3 losses. Hoping for a chance at a share of the conference.
Again, you have under acheived, the coach is frustrated with your ignorance and is making excuses about not having enough time to prepare like other schools.
Maybe you should start living right and your luck will turn.
fruit | 12:23 p.m. Nov. 16, 2009
Utes are STILL ahead of BYU in the latest BCS.... How you like them apples?
Not surprised | 12:31 p.m. Nov. 16, 2009
I was not suprised by either result this year, BYU getting worked, or the Utes
getting worked. TCU is one of the best teams in the country this year. BYU and
Utah are on the the best teams in the conference this year. TCU was better than
both of them last year, but Utah prevailed in a home game,Utah also upset
Alabama. Utah was not the best team in the conference last year. TCU was, and
they are this year by a wider margin. If the MWC wants respect. BYU and Utah
need to get better all the time. TCU is doing their part right now. The way I
see it. TCU is firmly established themselves as the front runner of this
conference now and BYU and Utah need to step it up to that level if they want to
remain relevant as BCS busters or as top 25 teams.
Ute man | 1:37 p.m. Nov. 16, 2009
This was a tough loss to take - but at least we didn't lose by 31....
at home......
with a senior QB.....
True - Utah was overmatched, & the inconsistent play finally caught up with us. True this will sting. But we will remember!
And unlike other teams we will make the adjustments necessary and we will continue to recruit more athletes into the program. We will bring the pain to San Diego & BYU....
at home......
with a senior QB.....
True - Utah was overmatched, & the inconsistent play finally caught up with us. True this will sting. But we will remember!
And unlike other teams we will make the adjustments necessary and we will continue to recruit more athletes into the program. We will bring the pain to San Diego & BYU....
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