Comments about ‘Log Cabin touts GOP backers for 2 gay-rights bills’

and what???
Why this homosexual lifestyle s lately pushing so hard.

Gays should have no special rights. They are not a suspect class and should never have special rights. Homosexuality is a choice and they should never ever have special rights that any other person has. EVER!

The camel's nose has just entered the tent. It will be interesting to see how long it will take for the whole camel to displace the owner.

It's not surprising the "Republican" sponsor to the gay rights bill doesn't want to be named: He either doesn't exist, or he realizes that he is sure to lose next fall if he follows through on his promises to the gay lobby.

It would behoove the above commenters to recall that religion, including our own, is a choice. Arguing vehemently against the moral choices of others is thin ice to tread when we claim that our perfectly legal way of life should trump their perfectly legal way of life.

If it's a might-makes-right numbers game, we lose in only a few generations, or hadn't anyone else noticed the droves of young folks leaving Salt Lake and the Church for the grass over other fences...

Anonymous: Was that English? I though conservatives believed if you are in this country, you should learn the language.

No way: I agree with you only because you used all caps and an exclamation mark. You don't have to have a good argument if you have both of those.

Carry: Do you seriously think that homosexuals will displace the rest of Utah are you just mean-spirited ad don't have a real argument?

Yeah right: I agree.

Please spell correctly in your argument. Especially if you are mocking other people about their use of the English language.

So much for "Respectful" dialogue as called for by the LDS Church.

Half the post by LDS members have been respectful,
the other half are anything but.

The world is watching to see if there is any truth to these new claims of civility and fairness.

1 Judge not, that ye be not judged.

2 For with what judgment ye judge, ye shall be judged: and with what measure ye mete, it shall be measured to you again.
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Let me elaborate:

If you are a bigot, intolerant and hateful --

You will be avoided, rejected and hated as well, by others [and the Lord].

It is interesting that you feel that homosexuality is a choice, when even the LDS church no longer believes this.

Have you noticed that the Church no longer says that same-sex attraction is a sin? Now the official stance is that only acting upon those attractions are a sin.

Why the change? Years ago, the BYU Psychology Department/Clinic-sponsored research studies that included electric-shock therapy experiments to try to cure homosexuality. The studies examined aspects of homosexuality, its origins, and its modifiability.

The results of these studies were communicated to Salt Lake and the Brethren, and it is because the results indicated that homosexuality may be inborn and is extremely resistant to the most powerful forms of electro- and chemical- therapies that the Brethren have taken the official stand they have taken. Officially, same sex attraction is not a sin–only homosexual behavior is now considered a sin in the Church.

Religion is a choice, and yet religion is a "protected class." It was not enough that the constitution gives religious expression total freedom, we required laws to protect those of any religious background from being fired or forced to move because of their "choice of faith." Of coarse that has never happened in the entire history of our country. Mobs of people did not burn and kill many our of ancestors. We always worshiped how we wanted with no ill effects.

Anti discrimination laws are are meant to encourage someone to "do the right thing" as the governor says, when they might lien to being just as forceful as some on these responses have been.

What you choose to do in your own bedroom should never be allowed as reason for dismissal. If you cannot do the job, your performance is effected etc, then replace the employee, but to arbitrarily terminate someone for something they do on their own time and in their own privacy is wrong.

These laws would not protect just "gay" people. They also protect the bigot who works for a "gay" owned company that could fire you for saying what I have read here.

REspectful Dialogue... that is really funny because I see the opposite...

So, if my judgment is that a man lying with another man is an abomination (Lev. 18:22), do I get to be judged as one who adheres to Biblical tenets? Will the Lord avoid, reject, and hate me for believing the Bible?

By what authority do you speak for the Lord in saying who He will avoid, reject, and hate? Maybe it is you who should beware of your judgments, and, by presuming to speak for the Lord, beware you're not taking His name in vain.

Who are the Log Cabin Republicans? What? Why is this even a headline?

I never get tired of laughing at people who cite the New Testament to chastise people for judging others, and in their next breath proceed to castigate those they've judged to be bigots, intolerant, hateful, and worthy of banishment from society and heaven.

Karma, indeed.

The Log Cabin Republicans is a conservative group of Republicans that believe in equal rights or all, while hold that being fiscally responsible is important. They also believe in a strong national defense, fairness in taxation and limited government interference in our personal lives. I am a member of this group because I believe in Republican values, but do not necessarily agree with the moral agenda pushed by the religious right.

And can we all remember that most of the vehemence I hear on this subject is not terribly Christlike.

I will not judge you or impose my will upon you. The government has no place in sanctioning one belief system over another. Leave that to the church's to do.

Ok, when you find that you can't rent an apartment or your job is at risk because of who you love, then you can tell the rest of us that an extra protection isn't necessary.

As a gay man, I must say that I find the charge that I "chose" to be gay a particularly strange one.

Want to know whether I "chose" to be gay? Just ask me. I am more than willing to talk about how I grew up, began to realize I was "different," and spent decades of my life in a sometimes desperate effort to change my sexual orientation. If ever there were a human being who "chose" not to be gay, that would have been me. But, apparently, it doesn't work that way.

I did eventually come to accept the fact that I was gay, and now live my life honestly and with integrity, and that includes choices I have made--not to pretend, not to marry a woman, but rather to live in a committed relationship with someone I love.

But I didn't "choose" to be gay. That's the bottom line, and the truth.

For anyone looking for reasons not to treat me or other gay people with fairness under the law or even with respect, I respectfully suggest that you look for other rationales. This one has no basis in fact.

Peace,
Linguist

For everyone saying homosexuality is a choice:

I am a Mormon. That is my choice. Even so, I would prefer not to be discriminated against based on that choice. Everyone's different, that doesn't mean that we can't treat each other with basic respect, even if we don't agree with each other.

Some maintain that the sin of Sodom was being mean-spirited, inhospitable and judgmental. None of that here, of course.