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Utah Jazz: Is selfishness to blame for woes?
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Anonymous | 12:30 a.m. Nov. 13, 2009
Interesting theory on DWill's part. Here are the shots per 48 minutes for
the Jazz:
This Year Last Year
Deron Williams 20.3 18.9
Kosta Koufos 18.8 15.7
Carlos Boozer 18.9 20.5
Eric Maynor 18.6 ---
Mehmet Okur 18.5 17.7
Kyrylo Fesenko 13.8 11.1
Wes Matthews 13.1 ---
Paul Millsap 13.3 15.7
Andrei Kirilenko 12.7 14.9
Ronnie Brewer 13.6 15.3
Ronnie Price 16.0 13.2
Of the starters, only Okur and DWill himself are shooting more often than last year. Boozer got two more shots per 48 last year. The problem is not what he thinks. The problem is too many shots from the outside--look at the increase for all the outside shooters--and not enough patience in pursuing the inside game: both Millsap and Boozer are getting far fewer shots this year.
This Year Last Year
Deron Williams 20.3 18.9
Kosta Koufos 18.8 15.7
Carlos Boozer 18.9 20.5
Eric Maynor 18.6 ---
Mehmet Okur 18.5 17.7
Kyrylo Fesenko 13.8 11.1
Wes Matthews 13.1 ---
Paul Millsap 13.3 15.7
Andrei Kirilenko 12.7 14.9
Ronnie Brewer 13.6 15.3
Ronnie Price 16.0 13.2
Of the starters, only Okur and DWill himself are shooting more often than last year. Boozer got two more shots per 48 last year. The problem is not what he thinks. The problem is too many shots from the outside--look at the increase for all the outside shooters--and not enough patience in pursuing the inside game: both Millsap and Boozer are getting far fewer shots this year.
No d in Utah Jazz | 12:45 a.m. Nov. 13, 2009
There isn't a player on the team that wants to play defense. They are all
offense all the time. Not a single big man on this team even attempts to block
shots or make people afraid to bring it into the lane. Not to mention that most
of the offensive minded players don't shoot very well either.
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Anonymous | 1:55 a.m. Nov. 13, 2009
This needs to be the depth chart in my opinion when everybody is healthy:
PG: Deron Williams, Ronnie Price, Eric Maynor
SG: C.J. Miles, Kyle Korver, Welsey Matthews
SF: Ronnie Brewer, Andrei Kirilenko
PF: Paul Millsap, Carlos Boozer, Kosta Koufos
C: Kyrylo Fesenko, Mehmet Okur, Kosta Koufos
PG: Deron Williams, Ronnie Price, Eric Maynor
SG: C.J. Miles, Kyle Korver, Welsey Matthews
SF: Ronnie Brewer, Andrei Kirilenko
PF: Paul Millsap, Carlos Boozer, Kosta Koufos
C: Kyrylo Fesenko, Mehmet Okur, Kosta Koufos
Sloan says..... | 1:56 a.m. Nov. 13, 2009
I don't know????? Well then Jerry, if you can't see the writing on
the wall it is time to hang it up. Sooner the better. Lets have a big farewell
party cause we love you non the less.
KOC | 4:19 a.m. Nov. 13, 2009
Kevin O'Connor needs to earn his keep this year. It was a noble attempt to
bring the team back to see if an injury-free season would mean more success, but
at this point you've got to see that despite all the supposed focus on
defense in the pre-season, this team is just not equipped for it (mental or
otherwise). O'Connor needs to move some big pieces in the coming weeks for
some defensive bigs. Especially if the Jazz ever want to compete with the
Lakers, Gasol and Bynum underneath.
I agree with Sloan !!! | 4:35 a.m. Nov. 13, 2009
"It's amazing," sloan said. "You see them play so well
together for a period of time, then all of a sudden it changes. They lose their
focus, or whatever."
This team has chemistry problems that needed to be fixed yesterday. I kind of dont blame them. Boozer pulled a cleveland and went against his word of backing out and opted back in. The Jazz were clearly ready to be done with this guy. Now they are in a position where they needed some time to work something out that will help the team. It is looking like that time might have run out.
So please everyone stop blaming sloan. You would think that if he was so bad and the game plan was so elementary the professionals, you know the guys that actually wear the shorts and the sneakers would revolt or something against him. Funny that has never happened. In fact the total opposite. Nothing but praise for the old man.
He has proven he can change can you??
This team is in need of a shot of something and once that happens we will see it all start to come together.
This team has chemistry problems that needed to be fixed yesterday. I kind of dont blame them. Boozer pulled a cleveland and went against his word of backing out and opted back in. The Jazz were clearly ready to be done with this guy. Now they are in a position where they needed some time to work something out that will help the team. It is looking like that time might have run out.
So please everyone stop blaming sloan. You would think that if he was so bad and the game plan was so elementary the professionals, you know the guys that actually wear the shorts and the sneakers would revolt or something against him. Funny that has never happened. In fact the total opposite. Nothing but praise for the old man.
He has proven he can change can you??
This team is in need of a shot of something and once that happens we will see it all start to come together.
OlDeRaDo | 4:45 a.m. Nov. 13, 2009
AK and Fes are showing some defensive presence, but AK isnt blocking half as
many shots as he could do if he focuse more and Fes doesnt get much playing
time!
Re: Anonymous 12:30 a.m | 5:08 a.m. Nov. 13, 2009
Very interesting breakdown. It makes sense what your saying. D Will is in a
tough spot right now. The entire load probably feels like it is on his
shoulders. He needs somebody he can count on. But at the same time nobody on
this team should ever be above constructive criticism.
Thanks for your post. I found it very educational.
Thanks for your post. I found it very educational.
If DWill can't get | 6:01 a.m. Nov. 13, 2009
a decent pass into Boozer/Millsap, or if he does and it gets blocked or they
fumble it, that reduces the interior shooting.
Sloan's system has been negated and stymied, not by selfishness but by other teams packing the paint. The Jazz shoot outside because they can't go inside and the shot clock is running down.
That is not selfishness. That is reality from getting out coached. The Jazz would have a better outside shooting percentage IF they had outside shooters and IF they had plays designed to unpack the paint.
Since they don't that is part of getting out coached.
"Selfishness" is a code word for Sloan's system is broken and we are being out coached and I do not know how to fix it.
"Selfishness" is meant to sound like DWill is taking blame for taking bad shots and maybe blaming others. Well if the extra pass is not there or the paint is packed what are the options?
DWill has shot more because he has had to. Why do you think he hates to send the ball to Boozer? He knows he will traveled, fumble or get blocked far to often.
Sloan's system has been negated and stymied, not by selfishness but by other teams packing the paint. The Jazz shoot outside because they can't go inside and the shot clock is running down.
That is not selfishness. That is reality from getting out coached. The Jazz would have a better outside shooting percentage IF they had outside shooters and IF they had plays designed to unpack the paint.
Since they don't that is part of getting out coached.
"Selfishness" is a code word for Sloan's system is broken and we are being out coached and I do not know how to fix it.
"Selfishness" is meant to sound like DWill is taking blame for taking bad shots and maybe blaming others. Well if the extra pass is not there or the paint is packed what are the options?
DWill has shot more because he has had to. Why do you think he hates to send the ball to Boozer? He knows he will traveled, fumble or get blocked far to often.
The Jazz Thrive On Insanity | 6:03 a.m. Nov. 13, 2009
Trade now, fire Sloan now! Whatever needs to be done, do it!!
I'd rather have my Jazz at the bottom of the rankings rebuilding than go another year with this group of under-achievers!!
The Millers won't do anything about it. They're going to ride this team and Sloan to the very end of the season.
What a waste!!!!
I'd rather have my Jazz at the bottom of the rankings rebuilding than go another year with this group of under-achievers!!
The Millers won't do anything about it. They're going to ride this team and Sloan to the very end of the season.
What a waste!!!!
Only 1 Thing Will Change This | 7:31 a.m. Nov. 13, 2009
A new coaching staff and GM. End of story!
Anonymous | 7:59 a.m. Nov. 13, 2009
We need a new G.M. coach and get booozer on the bench.
Anonymous | 8:01 a.m. Nov. 13, 2009
Maybe the new GM and coaching staff will be better shooters than the old
ones.
; -)
; -)
AKK | 8:02 a.m. Nov. 13, 2009
This team can't win as consructed... Trade with Golden State they have a
bunch of guys we can use and they are looking to blow up their team. Jackson,
Maggette, Ellis, Turiaf, Beidkins and some expiring contracts. Package Kirlinko
and Boozer and get something done.
D Will is Right | 8:02 a.m. Nov. 13, 2009
Everyone knows deep down Andrei is a selfish player and wants all the glory.
Boozer plays basketball for the money not because he likes playing.
Trade them both before their contracts end and you can't get anything for them. Bring big Mark Eaton!
Boozer plays basketball for the money not because he likes playing.
Trade them both before their contracts end and you can't get anything for them. Bring big Mark Eaton!
What Gives? | 8:07 a.m. Nov. 13, 2009
This is really confusing. All of you posters know more about basketball than me,
so I have to ask--the very first post says we need to take more outside shots.
The very next post says we can't make outside shots. Which is it? I also
always see people say to fire Sloan. Then the Jazz win and those people go away,
or they are reminded that Sloan is doing ok despite some injuries and did really
good a couple years ago with major players like Boozer et al missing so many
games. So, is it Sloan or Boozer the problem?
Sloan | 8:10 a.m. Nov. 13, 2009
Keep him. End of story.
jazz man 98 | 8:19 a.m. Nov. 13, 2009
That is interesting that he says that everyone needs to be unselfish,
interesting view. Sort of a freudian slip by a normally PC guy. But that is
Derons biggest problem, he doesnt want to hurt his boys feelings, so he doesn
chew them out.
Anonymous | 8:27 a.m. Nov. 13, 2009
D-will out tonight's game with personal reason.
RE: Anonymous | 8:29 a.m. Nov. 13, 2009
Although I like your depth chart at 4 of the 5 positions, I have to respectfully
disagree with the decision to put Wesley Matthews at the bottom of the SG
rotation. I think if anything he should be at least second. He's been one
nice surprise in this crap of a season so far.
Fergy | 8:36 a.m. Nov. 13, 2009
Here's a suggestion that could help in a small way...since Harpring is no
longer able to play why not bring him onboard as a "toughness coach"?
Whenever Matt was in a game there was no question about what he added to the
mix. It's obvious the current players that played with Matt didn't
learn by watching him play!
Just a thought
Just a thought
Miles | 8:40 a.m. Nov. 13, 2009
Everyone calm down. As soon as CJ and Korver are back on the court, the wins
will start piling up.
Trading Boozer just means taking on another expensive contract. Let his expire and move on.
Trading AK is not a bad idea if we can receive something of value.
Do not re-sign Brewer unless he learns to score from the outside.
Memo is a huge liability on defense.
Millsap doesn't want to play with Boozer and he is not the answer by himself. Big waste of money.
Dwill is the most selfish player as he is trying to make the all-star team.
Trading Boozer just means taking on another expensive contract. Let his expire and move on.
Trading AK is not a bad idea if we can receive something of value.
Do not re-sign Brewer unless he learns to score from the outside.
Memo is a huge liability on defense.
Millsap doesn't want to play with Boozer and he is not the answer by himself. Big waste of money.
Dwill is the most selfish player as he is trying to make the all-star team.
of course it's a problem | 8:58 a.m. Nov. 13, 2009
I still think Boozer is largely to blame... he went off all summer on a personal
rampage to get traded (after he signed) and his whole selfish attitude is
affecting the team... do you really want to help a guy who you know is just
trying to pad his stats and doesn't care about you?
CJ3 | 9:09 a.m. Nov. 13, 2009
One reason the Jazz are getting off less FGA's is that they've dropped
off of the rebounding chart, starting last season, when they were a top team in
the category the year before.
A good portion of this can be attributed to the loss of Boozer for much of last season, and while he's now collecting just as many as usual Millsap hasn't returned to form yet.
Two years ago the Jazz were a top offensive team also, and Boozer's drop-off in production has contributed to their not being now. Okur is down 3 points-per game, as well, despite taking more shots.
Now, the only stat cat that the Jazz were still tops in was assists -or ball-sharing. Last year Utah was the best at it. So far this season they're 8th, down a two full dimes a game, and off their pace of two years ago by nearly 4.
The point about too many jumpers holds water, too.
The Jazz have dropped in FTA's per-game from 30, to 28, back up to 28.7, to a low of 24 attempts per game. Lazy ball prevails now.
A good portion of this can be attributed to the loss of Boozer for much of last season, and while he's now collecting just as many as usual Millsap hasn't returned to form yet.
Two years ago the Jazz were a top offensive team also, and Boozer's drop-off in production has contributed to their not being now. Okur is down 3 points-per game, as well, despite taking more shots.
Now, the only stat cat that the Jazz were still tops in was assists -or ball-sharing. Last year Utah was the best at it. So far this season they're 8th, down a two full dimes a game, and off their pace of two years ago by nearly 4.
The point about too many jumpers holds water, too.
The Jazz have dropped in FTA's per-game from 30, to 28, back up to 28.7, to a low of 24 attempts per game. Lazy ball prevails now.
re: Only 1 Thing Will Change Thi | 9:20 a.m. Nov. 13, 2009
"A new coaching staff and GM. End of story!"
Brilliant! "Only 1 thing will change this," and then you name two!
Hope you aren't an accountant!
Brilliant! "Only 1 thing will change this," and then you name two!
Hope you aren't an accountant!
REALIST | 9:23 a.m. Nov. 13, 2009
ITS JUST NOT THE SAME OLD NBA.......WHO NEEDS IT? AS A FORMER SEASON TICKET
HOLDER, YOU COULDN'T GIVE ME MY SEATS BACK THAT I USE TO SHELL OUT $5000
FOR!
BOOZER IS NOT MALONE, DWILL IS NOT STOCK....SELLTHE JAZZ AND LET SOMEONE ELSE DEAL WITH THESE IMMATURE IMPETUOUS BRATS
WATCH HS FOOTBALL ...ITS $5 AND A WHOLE LOT MORE ENTERTAINING
BOOZER IS NOT MALONE, DWILL IS NOT STOCK....SELLTHE JAZZ AND LET SOMEONE ELSE DEAL WITH THESE IMMATURE IMPETUOUS BRATS
WATCH HS FOOTBALL ...ITS $5 AND A WHOLE LOT MORE ENTERTAINING
Lemme fix your problem | 9:42 a.m. Nov. 13, 2009
I still think Millsap is largely to blame... he went off all summer on a
personal rampage to get paid (after he didn't sign) and his whole selfish
attitude is affecting the team... do you really want to help a guy who you know
is just trying to pad his pocket and doesn't care about you?
There ya go! No problem.
There ya go! No problem.
Doug | 9:43 a.m. Nov. 13, 2009
We all noticed that New Orleans fired Scott. Is it only in our valley that poor
performance at the top goes untreaed?
the end of the innocense | 9:49 a.m. Nov. 13, 2009
getting a kings ransom to play a child's game...as if they cured
cancer...oooh me so concerned!
Miles | 9:57 a.m. Nov. 13, 2009
@CJ3: You can't rebound when the ball is dropping through the net on the
defensive end every time down the court. You have to stop someone first, to get
a rebound. It's hard to rebound layups.
Shooting a high percentage does not guarantee that you will win games. Playing tough defense does!!
Shooting a high percentage does not guarantee that you will win games. Playing tough defense does!!
TaylorD | 10:32 a.m. Nov. 13, 2009
The issues are clear:
1.) Defense
2.) Outside Shooting
The solutions are as clear if not more so:
1.) Trade Boozer, Okur, and if possible Kirilenko
2.) Acquire players that will buy into a Defensive Coaching Style that will challenge every shot and not allow easy buckets.
3.) Acquire a true SHOOTING guard that can and will hit the three when necessary. Brewer is one of the best finishers around the rim, but really struggles with mid to long-range shots. Miles and Korver can shoot, but the Jazz need a solidified starter at the 2 position.
I really like Marcus Camby and the defensive presence he brings to any team he is on. I also like Chris Anderson of the Nuggets.
For a shooting guard someone like Mo Williams would be really nice to have right now... Jason Terry is another. O.J. Mayo, Crawford of the Hawks, etc.
1.) Defense
2.) Outside Shooting
The solutions are as clear if not more so:
1.) Trade Boozer, Okur, and if possible Kirilenko
2.) Acquire players that will buy into a Defensive Coaching Style that will challenge every shot and not allow easy buckets.
3.) Acquire a true SHOOTING guard that can and will hit the three when necessary. Brewer is one of the best finishers around the rim, but really struggles with mid to long-range shots. Miles and Korver can shoot, but the Jazz need a solidified starter at the 2 position.
I really like Marcus Camby and the defensive presence he brings to any team he is on. I also like Chris Anderson of the Nuggets.
For a shooting guard someone like Mo Williams would be really nice to have right now... Jason Terry is another. O.J. Mayo, Crawford of the Hawks, etc.
Selfishness...Dang Straight | 10:35 a.m. Nov. 13, 2009
Yes, Scott got fired. Light the torches, time for Sloan right? NO! The effort
on our team sucks, not the coaching. Also, to all the unthankful fan base in
Utah, would you rather have a struggling team or no team at all. If the Jazz
fans can't support their team through tough times, the Jazz will never
survive in this market. $35 dollar tickets selling for $15; (If they were
actually selling at $15) Go to the ESA and enjoy some good basketball, even if
it is from a player rather than the Jazz's. If the fans give up, so will
the Miller family. You fire Sloan, and you don't haven any idea what you
have.
The main problem, Selfishness. Everyone got their money. Remember AK before the big contract? Remember Millsap before the big contract? Remember D-Will before the big contract? Remember Boozer stayed with Utah because there was no money anywhere else? That is the problem, a bunch of selfish money-hungry players...so DON'T even place the blame on a hall-of-fame coach. Last time I checked, Scott hadn't recieved that honor.
The main problem, Selfishness. Everyone got their money. Remember AK before the big contract? Remember Millsap before the big contract? Remember D-Will before the big contract? Remember Boozer stayed with Utah because there was no money anywhere else? That is the problem, a bunch of selfish money-hungry players...so DON'T even place the blame on a hall-of-fame coach. Last time I checked, Scott hadn't recieved that honor.
All you people going crazy | 10:51 a.m. Nov. 13, 2009
on how to improve the Jazz. You tell me who of any of the elite players would
want to come to Utah. "You play in Utah" is the answer from them all.
Move the team. Let's watch collegiate and high school sports and
'Forget about it' as they say in New York.
Anonymous | 10:58 a.m. Nov. 13, 2009
It is still way too early. We all need to just calm down and see what happens if
we keep losing and not making any improvements, that is when I will want to see
some trades and new line ups. But until then I will watch and scream at the TV
when needed. D.Will I think you are the backbone of this team, so I hope you get
everything taken care of and are back on the floor soon. There is still a true
fan in Idaho.
Hansol | 11:02 a.m. Nov. 13, 2009
Here's the problem: DEFENSE! Any intelligent human and basketball player
knows that in order to be a competitive team, defense needs to be the number 1
priority. Saying that defense is priority isnt good enough, Actions speak louder
than words! Boozer and Memo have to be the softest 4/5 combo I have ever seen.
We need a new defensive strategy and motto. Not the "Make me throw up in my
mouth Carlos Boozer Defense". You know, the kind of defense where I put my
elbow right on the defenders back opening myself up to a serious facial, or how
about when someone is coming down the lane for a wide open lay up and i decide
to box out my player in the key for the rebound? Get real Booz, come play my
church ball team to learn how to play defense. Basketball basics are missing in
their defense, thats it!
Consider this | 11:03 a.m. Nov. 13, 2009
How did the Jazz play without Boozer last year and what was their record once he
returned? They withered down the stretch after he got healthy. With him there
is just not any chemistry. We can't win with him and probably not without
him either. It may be that Milsap is another athlete that slacks off after
landing the big contract, but I'm thinking it's just impossible to
have a good chemistry with Boozer on the team, however we can't get
anything for him (or we would have by now).
It will help when our swingmen come back, but this team can't win with these players as we all know by now. Sorry for the realism (and the coming cliche), but it is what it is.
It will help when our swingmen come back, but this team can't win with these players as we all know by now. Sorry for the realism (and the coming cliche), but it is what it is.
CJ3 | 11:12 a.m. Nov. 13, 2009
Miles, the Jazz are actually out-shooting their opponents from 2-point range
.471 to .465. The problem appears to be from the 3-line where the Jazz are .301
to their opponents .411.
Utah has actually out-rebounded their competition by +1.6 so far, but to be successful that gap has to be much bigger.
From the FT line Utah is is a respectable .767.
Total adjusted FG% is being dragged down badly by that 3-pt percentage at .49 -good for only the bottom 13 in the league.
While I agree that improved defense is paramount to success, the Jazz must also step up offensively, something that's very difficult without the missing swingmen to keep opposing defenses honest. Teams will continue to pack the paint on Utah as long as they shoot 30% from 3, and keep taking jumpers to avoid the interior contact generated, along with the trips to the line.
The Celtics put on a clinic as far as ball-movement is concerned. Jazz players stand around watching iso plays all too often, when they should be moving around on both ends of the floor.
Utah has actually out-rebounded their competition by +1.6 so far, but to be successful that gap has to be much bigger.
From the FT line Utah is is a respectable .767.
Total adjusted FG% is being dragged down badly by that 3-pt percentage at .49 -good for only the bottom 13 in the league.
While I agree that improved defense is paramount to success, the Jazz must also step up offensively, something that's very difficult without the missing swingmen to keep opposing defenses honest. Teams will continue to pack the paint on Utah as long as they shoot 30% from 3, and keep taking jumpers to avoid the interior contact generated, along with the trips to the line.
The Celtics put on a clinic as far as ball-movement is concerned. Jazz players stand around watching iso plays all too often, when they should be moving around on both ends of the floor.
All | 11:29 a.m. Nov. 13, 2009
Interesting comments, but D'Wil is right. Basketball is a Team sport, NOT a
'ME' sport. Only when they are more interested in winning, instead of
scoring or money, will they begin to be a contender.
ALSO: for those who say our outside shooting isn't good enough...... I live in SoCal, (home of the Lakers). Phil Jackson said, just yesterday on the radio, that games are won in the paint, NOT from the exterior. Hmmmm, who won the NBA championship last year?
ALSO: for those who say our outside shooting isn't good enough...... I live in SoCal, (home of the Lakers). Phil Jackson said, just yesterday on the radio, that games are won in the paint, NOT from the exterior. Hmmmm, who won the NBA championship last year?
Low Basketball IQ | 11:44 a.m. Nov. 13, 2009
Evidently the Low Basketball Intelligence Quotient LBIQ is like H1N1...very
contagious and most of the commenters here have it.
AK is selfish?
That is why he is shooting less/48 minutes than Kosta Koufus?
I'm not going to list them all but the comments are mostly clueless.
Pretty simple to analyze the problems.
Limited outside shooting so they can't spread the floor and PLAYERS not committed to defense.
That is it...the rest is just banter.
AK is selfish?
That is why he is shooting less/48 minutes than Kosta Koufus?
I'm not going to list them all but the comments are mostly clueless.
Pretty simple to analyze the problems.
Limited outside shooting so they can't spread the floor and PLAYERS not committed to defense.
That is it...the rest is just banter.
Trades | 11:54 a.m. Nov. 13, 2009
Trading Boozer, Okur and Kirilenko are only possible if another team wants
them.
TaylorD mentions Camby and Anderson. Big deal,do you really think the Clips and Nuggets are going to deal them? Anderson just signed a new extension. What about SG? Jason Terry, Williams, Mayo? Are you serious. The only player the other teams would take from the Jazz for any of these players is DWill. Maybe!
Trades are not one sided unless you can one like Gasol to the Lakers. Why not trade Boozer and Kirilenko to the Lakers for Bynum and Vujacic? Gets the Jazz a big defensive presence and an outside shooter. This won't happen like most other trades because the Lakers don't need them. Nor does any other team with players of equal abilities and salaries.
Face it, most of the posters on these sites think they know everything and management doesn't. If you did, apply for the job and see how well you do. Fantasy B-Ball and Church Ball is one thing. The NBA is another.
TaylorD mentions Camby and Anderson. Big deal,do you really think the Clips and Nuggets are going to deal them? Anderson just signed a new extension. What about SG? Jason Terry, Williams, Mayo? Are you serious. The only player the other teams would take from the Jazz for any of these players is DWill. Maybe!
Trades are not one sided unless you can one like Gasol to the Lakers. Why not trade Boozer and Kirilenko to the Lakers for Bynum and Vujacic? Gets the Jazz a big defensive presence and an outside shooter. This won't happen like most other trades because the Lakers don't need them. Nor does any other team with players of equal abilities and salaries.
Face it, most of the posters on these sites think they know everything and management doesn't. If you did, apply for the job and see how well you do. Fantasy B-Ball and Church Ball is one thing. The NBA is another.
Miles | 11:59 a.m. Nov. 13, 2009
@CJ3: For every 10 attempts it breaks down like this:
3 pointers: 9 points
2 pointers: 9.4 points
Seems to me that the difference whether we take a 3 or a 2 doesn't matter over 10 attempts. I don't see our offense as being a problem at all.
The entire issue with the team is DEFENSE. There aint any! Most of Boozer's rebounds in year's past have been defensive rebounds. Now that teams are putting the ball in the basket more regularly, his numbers are down. Millsap on the other hand gets most of his rebounds on the offensive side and his numbers are way down. He is just lazy.
3 pointers: 9 points
2 pointers: 9.4 points
Seems to me that the difference whether we take a 3 or a 2 doesn't matter over 10 attempts. I don't see our offense as being a problem at all.
The entire issue with the team is DEFENSE. There aint any! Most of Boozer's rebounds in year's past have been defensive rebounds. Now that teams are putting the ball in the basket more regularly, his numbers are down. Millsap on the other hand gets most of his rebounds on the offensive side and his numbers are way down. He is just lazy.
Just Me | 12:10 p.m. Nov. 13, 2009
yeah I agree that all NBA players are babies and obviously make waaaaaaaaay too
much money. They arent curing cancer, or helping the hungry or helping children
get an education. but hey why not overpay for season tickets just to sit
courtside and watch them laugh all the way to the bank because they dont care
one way or another.
Anonymous | 3:47 p.m. Nov. 13, 2009
On defense, they don't seem to be able to work together. Sure if they had
Eaton in the middle, it would be ok for the guards to let people drive right
past them. But they don't have Eaton, so the guards have to do a better
job of staying in front of people. Boozer and Okur have to get in front of
people too, but they won't block shots, that isn't their game.
Biggest problem of all, though, is the team D. They communicate so poorly it is
quite shocking--they never seem to be able to work out what team mates are
doing.
Anonymous | 3:48 p.m. Nov. 13, 2009
On offense, it is even easier. Teams are packing the paint and daring them to
shoot jump shots. They are shooting them and missing. When they do go into the
paint, even 2 time All Star and Olympian Boozer is struggling with it packed in
so much--a lot of his shots are 15 foot jump shots because he can't get
inside. Millsap isn't lazy, he just doesn't have a chance against
that kind of D. He doesn't have the moves of Boozer, and he is shorter and
doesn't appear to be as strong.
TaylorD | 4:04 p.m. Nov. 13, 2009
In response to Trades. . . Yes I agree, we will probably not land any of the
players I mentioned. Just suggestions, those are just ideal. However, I do think
that we do have some significant bargaining chips in the New York Draft pick
that we would be able to pick up a quality addition to the team if we wanted it
bad enough. Trades are out there. Look at Boston and LA, both teams traded their
way to championships.
What would you have the Jazz do? Sit on their hands and continue on their downward spiral and probably not make the playoffs this year?
What would you have the Jazz do? Sit on their hands and continue on their downward spiral and probably not make the playoffs this year?
Jdizzle | 4:10 p.m. Nov. 13, 2009
Dwill is my homie
Solution? | 4:53 p.m. Nov. 13, 2009
Others above have mentioned selfishness and lack of effort as the big problems
and that Sloan is not the issue. From my perspective, selfishness and lack of
effort are synonymous with a lack of motivation, so unfortunately for all you
Sloan lovers, I do think HOF Jerry bears at least a portion of the blame.
Jerry doesn't want to accept it, but he needs to be part of the motivational solution for ths bunch. Jerry tries to absolve himself of his responsibility to motivate ("they're professionals," if the money doesn't motivate them, how can I," etc. etc.) but sorry to say, even pro athletes need some external motivation.
Give Hornacek a try - it can't be any worse than it is right now with Sloan.
Jerry doesn't want to accept it, but he needs to be part of the motivational solution for ths bunch. Jerry tries to absolve himself of his responsibility to motivate ("they're professionals," if the money doesn't motivate them, how can I," etc. etc.) but sorry to say, even pro athletes need some external motivation.
Give Hornacek a try - it can't be any worse than it is right now with Sloan.
JR | 4:53 p.m. Nov. 13, 2009
Boozer for Dwight Howard. Make it happen.
Anonymous | 5:03 p.m. Nov. 13, 2009
I was at the game with the Kings. It was a joke. There is no hustle anymore.
There were 2 minutes remaining and the Kings' lead was cut down to ten, but
there goes Williams moseying down the court like he's got all the time in
the world. It was ridiculous. Where's the passion that the Jazz used to
exhibit in every game?
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The truth is something has to be done. Mouthing Sloanisms is not going to change the real problems the Jazz face.
They are not getting the defensive effort out of Boozer or Okur. Millsap has disappeared. They do not have the outside shooting they need and part of that is Sloan not recruiting outside shooters or making plays for them.
A lot of it is Sloan not playing the right combinations or match ups.
A big part is DWill is hurt and not at 100% with no viable back up.
The Jazz do need to make some trades and now is as good a time to do it as any, if they can get a decent trade.
The big problem is that Sloan is not likely to trade for what is needed, a shooting wing, a real PF, a real combo guard. What is really needed is a change in game plan that uses the outside shot effectively and great defense.
That means new players and less "continuity".