Utah Jazz: Sloan may toy with starting lineup


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  • re: the truth
    Nov. 13, 2009 12:07 p.m.

    Agreed, 100%. AK could once again be a key assett to this team, but Sloan and Boozer have destroyed him and his will to this point. When Boozer was out last year, AK was much more productive, as soon as loozer returned AK looked lost.

    I don't blame him, why focus on "D" when the 'star' doesn't play a lick of it and still has every offensive play run for him. What a joke this boozer guy is.

  • Fire KOC!
    Nov. 13, 2009 8:47 a.m.

    Guys - who really is to blame? It's KOC! He's the one who put this team together. It's garbage. He can't draft well (lopez, humphries, almond, pavlovic, stevenson, etc, etc.) Sure Sloan can do a better job coaching, but get real. This is ALL on KOC. This team is garbage. Fire KOC! He does not know talent, how to draft, nor how to build a championship team!!!!!!!!!

  • Miles
    Nov. 13, 2009 8:45 a.m.

    If Phil Johnson wanted to be a head coach, he would have left a long time ago. When Jerry goes, he will go.

  • Swamie Says
    Nov. 13, 2009 8:02 a.m.

    Jazz will tank and earn 2 lottery picks in next year's draft (assuming NY continues to stink equally as bad as the Jazz). Sloan will be put out to pasture, Snoozer will finally be off the books and out of our hair.

    New coach, new rookies...Nowhere to go but up from here.

    Just don't tell me that Miller will replace Sloan with Johnson, please don't tell me that.

  • Stefan Arnason
    Nov. 13, 2009 4:02 a.m.

    You guys are going to look very bad after 3 or 4 weeks when Jerry has turned things around... Sloan is the best there is and I believe in him.

  • guess whos back
    Nov. 13, 2009 2:50 a.m.

    Hey it's the return of magnus, just in time to rearrange the deck chairs on the titanic that Sloan has built. Keep telling us what a good Coach he is, it's working!

  • chris
    Nov. 13, 2009 2:11 a.m.

    Boozer has got to go! I think it is a moral issue. Who would want to play with such a back stabber? How many turnovers have Okur and Boozer had this year? Time to make some serious decisions.ove okur sometimes and cringe at other times. Good off of the bench. Boozer would be good off the team. Stop bringing everyone else down with you boozer. No one likes you anymore. I am 5'6" 150lbs and could take you to the hole every time!!!!!!!Go away!!!!!!

  • The Jury is in....
    Nov. 13, 2009 1:51 a.m.

    will one of you guys download todays boards and forward them to Greg. Sloan obviously does not read us or he would get the points. Ten thousand fans can not be wrong Greg, not most all ten thousand fans. DO SOMETHING GREG....JUST DO IT PLEASE. It is your responsibility now Greg, not Dad's.

  • todd from santa ana
    Nov. 13, 2009 1:10 a.m.

    Tomorrow night prediction 99-93 Philly Saturday 111-93 Cleveland

  • Anyone who pretends that
    Nov. 13, 2009 12:41 a.m.

    Sloan could not be replaced by someone better is in denial. Sloan has strengths and weaknesses. His weaknesses have gotten to a point where they are killing the team.

    This team is begging for a coaching change.

    1. For at least 3 years Sloan knew this team could not play defense and never would.

    2. Sloan has also known that Boozer/Okur were good enough to make the playoffs but not go much further.

    3. Sloan could have gotten wings who shoot but refused to do anything until he was forced to trade Gordon, who was giving him grief for Korver.

    4. He knew he needed a real back up PG. He got cheap junk and the Jazz lost how many games because of it? Finally after 3 years they draft Maynor who is very iffy. Brilliant coaching.

    5. Sloan knows he needs a better PF, back up PG and shooting wings. What has been done in 3 years? He also knew he would not get defense unless he traded for it. Where is the defense?

    No one holds Sloan accountable.

    Miller's reputation as an owner is now at stake. This team is a joke.

  • Why Sloan is horrid
    Nov. 12, 2009 9:57 p.m.

    1.With the same core players this team has consistently gotten worse. The jazz should be getting better as the players mature and know each other’s game.
    2.Defensive 3pt philosophy. Jazz opponents shoot 41% from the 3 point line! This alone should be enough but this does not bother Sloan to change his philosophy. Still not convinced? Lets do some math. Say an opponent takes 20 shots from 3 and 2 from 2 range. That would result in 3*.41*20~25pts from 3 pt shots vs 2*.47*20~19pts from inside. NO WONDER EVEN THE WORST TEAMS KILL THE JAZZ FROM THE 3pt.

    Anyone want to add 3,4,5 etc?

  • IDjazz12
    Nov. 12, 2009 9:47 p.m.

    Those saying Sloan is not to blame well not fully the players have to share some of the blame but let me ask you this if Kobe Bryant put up the same kind of effort we see Boozer putting up and various other players too I would guarantee it would not be three seasons or three games later before he is riding pine by Phil Jackson. You set the tone with lazy players by benching them for a couple games. Lets face it certain coaches are able to bring out the best in their players and Sloan is not one of them.

  • napalihiker
    Nov. 12, 2009 9:14 p.m.

    When times were tough, John and Karl used to say everyone including themselves had to look in the mirror and see what they could do better. I appreciate Deron's competitiveness and willingness to say that some players are playing selfeshly, but everyone, including Deron, needs to look at themselves in the mirror............and keep Boozer away from the microphone. Nothing is ever that "man's(ie whiny crybaby)" fault.

  • jazzman72
    Nov. 12, 2009 8:52 p.m.

    Guaranteed contracts have killed this team. Ak,boozer, millsap. They got their big paydays and now their motivation is gone. I hope they score in the draft next summer.

  • magnus
    Nov. 12, 2009 8:50 p.m.

    Some good stuff here, I loved the guy who threw out the "The Suns fired their coach, and look where they are now!" Ya, look, three years later they are finally back to being as good as they where before they fired him, and they had to hire back one of D'Antonis prodigies to do it.

    Now the Hornets fired Scott...does anybody really think that is going to make a dimes worth of difference in their season? They might win more games, maybe less, but if you don't have the horses you aint winning the race, no matter who the Jockey is.

    I do love what the Hornets owner did though. When the GM fired Scott he basically said, "well, you say you have built a winning team here, and that coaching is the problem, so how about you coach them and prove it." That's Awesome.

    I really hope sloan does mix it up this next game, Boozer, Okur, Millsap, Brewer and Williams all need a wake-up call. Losing playing time might be that call.

  • Sloan is not the GM or owner
    Nov. 12, 2009 8:12 p.m.

    Come on, you can't really believe Slosn has the final say on who stays and goes. There are so many factors. First, money and salary cap. Who is available. Who a team already has on there roster. Are you telling us that Sloan had a choice on keeping Ostertag. The relationship between Sloan and Greg was infamously bad. So, some are saying that Sloan has purposely put together a team that is often unsuccessful. You can only coach with what you've been given.

  • Anonymous
    Nov. 12, 2009 7:33 p.m.

    SF AK
    C FES
    2ND UNIT

  • fossil
    Nov. 12, 2009 7:23 p.m.

    byron scott just got fired i wonder if the millers have any guts and send sloan to the farm. scott was better than sloan.

  • Lets Quit Kidding Each Other
    Nov. 12, 2009 7:16 p.m.

    Sloan has been the man almost from day one. He has had his way with the draft, trades, and free agent aquistions. Don't let anyone tell you anything different. He also hand picked looser O'Connor knowing he would fold into what ever he wanted to do. Jerry Sloan is responsible for what we have on the floor, if he did not have that control he would have left years ago. Do you really think ANYONE is going to tell the almighty tough Sloan what to do and have him agree? Silly. Even the Millers are scared of this man, don't give me the feeble excuse that they love him PLEASE!

  • New Coach
    Nov. 12, 2009 6:55 p.m.

    Really...should have titled "Jazz toying with an idea of new coach" Just look at the New Orleans Hornets, Byron Scott just got tossed out today!!! No matter what line up you put out in the floor...theres no motivation among the players, time for Sloan to retire!!!!

  • Taylor Christensen
    Nov. 12, 2009 6:29 p.m.

    Wow, you guys honestly think that it is the coaches responsiblity make the player's care. what is sloan, THE BEST COACH IN THE NBA supposed to do to make his players play hard. You hear him say after every single game that it's all effort, WHICH IT IS, and you all blame him for not knowing what is going on, and you repeat everything he says. GET BOOZER OUT, HE'S AN INFECTION! (By the way, don't you hate it how boozer smiles and laughs everytime he makes a mistake)

  • @Great Coaches
    Nov. 12, 2009 6:28 p.m.

    Why are these players still here and still in the rotation? This is not new! It is not just this year or just the last two years! Jerry is keeping these guys and he is putting them on the floor!

  • Great Coaches
    Nov. 12, 2009 6:01 p.m.

    It was nice to see that Coach Sloan was considered as one of the great coaches along with John Wooden, Dean Smith and Red Aerbach (it is actually spelled Auerbach). If his mind or enthusiasm for the game has faded then maybe, but to think Sloan should resign because they are disappointed in the effort of their team is crazy. What about the minds and enthusiasm of the players? Where is their heart? Competitiveness?

  • Just Quit This A.K. At The 4
    Nov. 12, 2009 5:56 p.m.

    His position doesn't make that much difference! When he does go in low he fumbles the ball, throws it away, or gets blocked. He really is not that good of a player when all is said and done. The only reason he looked ggod back when was because quite frankly he was the ONLY player on the team-don't you people remember our roster then? Filled with no nothings. While I'm at it lets put Brewer on the same get out of town team with Boozer, Memo, Price,and Maynor. Give playing time to KK and Fess to see if they in fact should join this group or whether in fact they are ballers. What a mess.

  • Glen Jonsin @part III
    Nov. 12, 2009 5:54 p.m.

    I believed what you are saying.........3 years ago! I knew these wimps were pretenders. Why did Sloan not demand to have AK, Boozer, etc dumped? He is either a poor coach or he is losing his mind to have roster like this. I loved Jerry for 25 years. The things that have been going on with the Jazz the last 3 years are very strange and make no sense at all.

    You never put three guys as soft as AK, Boozer and Memo on the floor together....not even in City League!

    Sloan is either getting or giving bad advice. And if he is not smart enough or powerful enough to stop O'Connel, why is he being paid $5,000,000.00 per season to coach this team. Also why is Fess on the bench @ 7'1", 300+ lbs.???

    What is going on my friends???

    Are Randy Rigby, Denny Haslam, Tim Howells and Greg Miller all going to lose their credibility over Jerry and O'Kevin? These are very smart businessmen! I really have a hard time believing that they would want to let this all go down without making a move or washing their hands.

  • Jazzsmack
    Nov. 12, 2009 5:50 p.m.

    Slaon has become a joke.

    First slaons says who starts does NOT matter, that who finishes is what is important,

    then slaons wants to convince us tinking with the starting line up,

    will show us what a clever coach he is,

    what a joke.

  • What kind of a man...........
    Nov. 12, 2009 5:36 p.m.

    ...........is Greg?

    We will soon find out...........stay tuned!

  • This is a Joke!!!!
    Nov. 12, 2009 5:32 p.m.

    John Wooden was a great coach so was Dean Smith................legends. They both left in a dignified manner......as did Red Aerbach!

    It is hard to watch Jerry and Phil over on the bench having niki fits of rage!

  • Get rid of Sloan? Part III
    Nov. 12, 2009 5:32 p.m.

    Get rid of Sloan? Part III For all those that think getting rid of Sloan will solve the problem, your crazy. What are some of the reasons you have posted? 3) Sitting on the bench during a game not enthused. Maybe Sloan is getting tired of working his rear off and having his players fold on him. Where is the leadership from the key players? Sloan is only successful if his players follow his lead and believe in his philosophy. Part I and II should lay to rest any questions about what Sloan is doing and it's effectiveness. The Jazz need their key players to call out those who are not pulling their weight. Stand behind your coach. Sloan might get more interested if the team was doing something interesting.

  • This is the only place in the US
    Nov. 12, 2009 5:28 p.m.

    Where things could be going so badly for an organization and have everyone (Owner, managmnet, coaches, players, MILLER MEDIA, pretend that nothing is wrong. This is one of the most ridiculous situations I have ever witnessed in any industry!

  • Jake
    Nov. 12, 2009 5:25 p.m.

    @ Phnehme.....Yep. Thats what we need to do. Bench the teams second leading scorer and leading rebounder. Sure nuff! That'd cure it!

  • Cowboy Joe to Todd
    Nov. 12, 2009 5:18 p.m.

    Todd Scott is equally as bad as Slown. He doesn't get along with his players very long because of his ego. He got ran out of New Jersey and New Orleans because the PLAYERS STOPPED listening just like SLown.

  • Get rid of Sloan? Part I
    Nov. 12, 2009 5:10 p.m.

    Part I For all those that think getting rid of Sloan will solve the problem, your crazy. What are some of the reasons you have posted? 1) everyone knows his schemes. It that was the case, the Lakers, Spurs, Celtics, Magic, et. al. head coaches would be just as guilty as Sloan. These teams are successful because each player knows their roles and where they need to be in the offense. From what I have seen, when players try to go on there own the trouble starts. There wasn't much complaint about the schemes when Stockton and Malone were on the Jazz. Every ask yourselves why not? Because they were successful running their schemes. So lay this one to rest.

  • todd from santa ana
    Nov. 12, 2009 4:45 p.m.

    Then we can get all rid of the "sloanaholics" also and clean things up around here, hope many leave with Jerry and get a smarter fan base

  • toddfrom santa ana
    Nov. 12, 2009 4:43 p.m.

    want Sloan gone? You guys know what to do---do it

  • todd from santa ana
    Nov. 12, 2009 4:35 p.m.

    Better idea. Pay jerry off thank him and get him out of here, give him Carte Blanche to always be welcome in this organization, make it out to be mutual and hire Scott who can start Friday night.

    Of course, Greg will not do that too much like Dad.

    ANd you guys worry about us "outsiders" making trouble?

    Funny stuff.

    See if this continues, no one will be going to games anyway see what crowds in Sacramento are?

    They have a more entertaining product now than we do

    Far more

    Then again they have a coach that is getting moreout lets see, Hawes, Thompson, Greene, Udrih, Nocconi etc etc

  • Defensive line-up
    Nov. 12, 2009 4:34 p.m.

    PG: Duh
    SG: Brewer
    SF: Millsap
    PF: AK
    C: Fez

    PG: Maynor
    SG: Mathews
    SF: Brewer/AK
    PF: Boozer
    C: Okur

  • Headline soon to read
    Nov. 12, 2009 4:14 p.m.

    Miller about seen enough of this irresponsible mess. Ready to toy with management and coaching change.

  • Stop Stealing
    Nov. 12, 2009 4:02 p.m.

    Jerry, please stop stealing money from the Miller family. They have already taken a hit in the car business. They are better off investing the 7 million a year with Bernie Maddoff.

  • my 2 cents
    Nov. 12, 2009 3:58 p.m.

    Since were playing Coach here, how about

    PG: DWill
    SG: Mathews
    SF: AK
    PF: Memo
    C: Fez

    you could have a rotation of big men for the 4/5 depending on matchups, and soon as Korver/Miles are healthy, nice depth at the wings.
    I believe that starting line-up is the best combo of Offense & Defense.
    What do you all think?

  • Tractor Rumblings
    Nov. 12, 2009 3:56 p.m.

    Heard in Illinois. John Deere tractors.

  • Phnehme
    Nov. 12, 2009 3:54 p.m.

    Boozer needs to go. I don't think there is another player in the league that is as soft, with absolutely no defensive ability. He knows he has the jazz over a barrell, so why try? Bury him on the bench until they can unload him for another expireing contract. AK needs to move back to the 4, Fes needs to start at center. Okur can back up the 4 and the 5 depending on match ups. Given his play Mathews should start and Brewer should be the back up. Hey here's a real novel idea....how about giving out playing time based on performance rather then paycheck.

  • Anonymous
    Nov. 12, 2009 3:33 p.m.


  • Tired of the same old same old
    Nov. 12, 2009 3:33 p.m.

    IS anyone really surprised that when the Jazz are basically the same team team as last year that nothing changed??? Sloan should man-up and retire. He must be delusional to think what he's doing is working. Here's what needs to be done:
    1-Sloan out(Take a hint from New Orleans..)
    2- Take Boozer and Okur with him or bench them.
    3- Get a shooting guard who can shoot
    4- Hire Jeff Hornacek to coach
    5- The Utah press need to quit making excuses and actually report the sports news and quit kissing up to the Millers
    6- Keep praying the Knicks are as bad as the Jazz

  • From Bobby Bowden
    Nov. 12, 2009 3:29 p.m.

    I think Jerry Sloan is too old to coach in the NBA. Sure he had some nice years in the '90s, but his time has passed.

  • Anonymous
    Nov. 12, 2009 3:08 p.m.

    I agree I think its time for Sloan to go and bring in a fresh face

  • Anonymous
    Nov. 12, 2009 3:04 p.m.

    I think its time for Slon to go

  • blauch
    Nov. 12, 2009 3:02 p.m.

    2 season was the Jazz's best season. The team had a great record and strong +/- of +565 points against opponents an average margin of victory was +6.9 per game. The Jazz had the 2nd beat offense in the NBA. Almost every lineup the Jazz used was sucessful. Williams, Brewer, AK, Boozer and Okur started and they were actually one of the most unproductive lines ups - even though they played almost 1000 minutes they had a +/- of 78. When we subbed Millsap for either Boozer or Okur that season with the same other 3 players the Jazz +/- was over 100 and they only played together under 400 minutes.

    The next season the Jazz substituted AK for Miles and the next season the Jazz's +/- was about -18 for over 700 minutes. Now Boozer was injured so during that time the Jazz Millsap played in that lineup.

    The point is Boozer and Okur cannot be successful together. You need one defensive big man. Sloan cannot make them play defense.

    The Jazz need to trade either Boozer for a small forward so we can have AK back play PF some times and get Fess more minutes

  • Re: the truth....
    Nov. 12, 2009 2:54 p.m.

    you are speaking the truth. it about time somebody points out AK's worth to our team. yeah he got a big contract, and he deserved it to. its not his fault he went from filling the stat sheet up at the 4 and then the next year we sign loozer to play 4. AK got it big time. he is so awesome at 4 it boggles my mind that he doesnt play there. he is a decent enough shooter that any 4 in the league would have to respect that and he would be able to drive on any 4 as well. defensively it keeps him low to contest shots. if we are all fed up with boozer and milsaps play of late, lets put AK at the 4 and watch him put up his all-star numbers again. boozer has to go. i dont care where, just not on the court.

  • Scott is actually a decent
    Nov. 12, 2009 2:49 p.m.

    coach. Sloan had better watch his back. Greg might be more of a businessman that some people think.

    When you have a team that is this disfunctional and Sloan has made all of the decisions in the last 3 years it is pretty obvious who you hold accountable.

    What ever you do DON'T hand the team to Phil. He can't run it better than Sloan. Corbin or Layden, maybe?

  • Managing Egos
    Nov. 12, 2009 2:34 p.m.

    Part of being an NBA coach is managing Egos. Another part is managing the game.

    Before Boozer got hurt this was his team to some extent and it reflected his mood swings. After he was out for ever the team moved on and it became DWill, Okur and to some extent Millsap's team. With Boozer back the chemistry leadership is unsettled (at best).

    Things are so bad right now Sloan does not need to worry about Egos. He has and needs to worry about keeping the right combinations on the floor at all times in spite of having limited options.

    The Jazz are desparate for this win. Who starts is not relevant. What is relevant is keeping a combination of players on the floor who maximize the net score. Sloan will have to constantly change the mix of players to both maximize scoring and defense all night in order to win.

    In my opinion that is what he should have been doing for several years instead of just running his preset rotations by the clock.

    It is long past time for Sloan to scrap his Vet bias and ego management and actually coach the game to win.

  • stockton, malone, barkley
    Nov. 12, 2009 2:17 p.m.

    people i think would be great coaches for the Jazz...John Stockton...having the greatest point guard in the history as your coach is alone a motivator..mix that with his never winning a championship (everyone would play for him) and he is a born leader and a firey leader!!! Karl Malone...i think karl would do the same as Stock and wouldnt it be great to see footage of practice and seeing karl malone get so P.O'd at booz that he gets in the action and "show's" Boozer how to play the game of basketball?!?! and last but not least...Charles Barkley...i would just love that because the jazz are already downhill and to have a coach that you would barely be able to understand stomping up and down the court that would be awesome!!! Barkley has a love for the jazz and actually in my opinion would be a great coach! would make a great motivator...(oh i say even look at Jeff Hornecek...wouldnt hurt) they would all do better than the outdated style of play by Jerry Sloan...sorry Sloan...i love ya man...but its time to go

  • The Truth
    Nov. 12, 2009 2:13 p.m.

    People need to stop bagging on AK for his contract. When the Jazz signed him to that deal they had him as their cornerstone player, the guy they were going to build around. Then they did a complete turn around and since then the Jazz have been playing him at the 3. That's not his position, especially in the Jazz offense. That's why after leading Russia to the Euro championship at the 4 spot AK was so unhappy. The Jazz have him guarding people on the perimeter, not necessarly his strength, instead of providing some shot blocking inside like Booz is doing? yeah right. AK take the jazz money, that's what they get for playing you out of your natural 4 spot. I'm hoping that the Jazz trade you to a team that runs....so I can watch the AK of old.

  • Change Millers Change!
    Nov. 12, 2009 1:40 p.m.

    Why not do what New Orleans just did and fire the coach and his staff? Phoenix has done the same thing in recent years and look at them now, also they have dumped player after player forever and always come back contending. This status quo thing is over bearing and needs changing RIGHT NOW! I'm sick of lame excuses. Get new management including this so-called GM we have out of here, along with new coaches unwanted players and lets compete again.

  • magnus
    Nov. 12, 2009 1:37 p.m.

    What about this for a starting lineup...

    PG: Williams
    SG: Matthews
    SF: AK
    PF: Millsap
    C: Fesenko

    Matthews and AK have been shooting it well enough from outside and I think this group would be good defensively.

    or this...

    PG: Williams
    SG: Brewer
    SF: AK
    PF: Okur
    C: Fesenko

    I would really like to see Fes and Okur on the court together more. They havent used it much this year but when they have it has been effective. This is probably the starting lineup I'd like to see most right now.

  • Blow it up!
    Nov. 12, 2009 1:31 p.m.

    We have a point guard and a very good back up power forward (Millsap). Our team is embrassing. Anyone who thinks the Jazz are contenders needs to be honest with themselves (Last night it was obvious. We are never going to get a ring with this group! We need to start building with D-Will. Please don't let me watch Boozer give opponents lay up drills, while Okur appears to help out with 15 lbs weights tied to each foot. This team is medicore at best. It was fools gold when we made it to the WC finals, because Dallas Choked. Let's start it over with the help of the Knicks and move on with life. I can't stand to see Denver and Portland get it together while we bet the farm on these clowns. People in this group have no loyalty to the Jazz (they just want a check)= AK, Boozer. How Can we give a max contract to a guy that can't even make it on the All Star Ballot (AK). This franchise has truly went down hill.

  • re: A coach can't
    Nov. 12, 2009 1:28 p.m.

    You have a valid point or two, but Sloan is NOT encouraging and motivating during games. He sits on the bench with his mouth open and has the same lost look on his face throughout the game. It is pathetic. Every player on that team has been chosen by Sloan to be there. He is the true GM, and is the problem. The "NBA rejects" on this team were signed and offered extensions with Sloan's approval. The poor defense, especially interior D, has been a problem for a few years now. This is the coach's job to correct. This core of players have had plenty of time to respond. The ability is there and if the coach can't bring it out of the players he has chosen to be a part of his "system", then the coach has got to go. The Celtics are an old team and ran laps around the Jazz. The NBA game has evolved, Sloan has not.

  • Cowboy Joe to a coach can't
    Nov. 12, 2009 1:26 p.m.

    Slown has admitted that he isn't a motivator. The game has changed. Slown is lost and the players need a motivated leader. Nobody claims that Slown is not a great coach, but it's is time for a change.

    Something needs to be done and replacing unmotivated players with different unmotivated players will still be a loss.

    I hope the Jazz and Knicks both keep losing. Two top picks in the draft is way better than a one a done 8th seeed in the playoffs. Especially if the Jazz get a new coach.

    Fire/Retire Slown please.
    I predict Slown will be the next coach gone. Out of a job before Chirstmas.

  • MyFriend
    Nov. 12, 2009 1:09 p.m.

    Start Memo at PF and Fes at center. Milsap and Boozer are backups unless they're playing in nationally televised games. Maybe if Boozer gets benched he'll come out mad enough to play some D.

  • GoodGuyGary
    Nov. 12, 2009 12:56 p.m.

    How about:

    PG: Deron
    SG: Mathews
    SF: Brewer
    PF: Millsap
    C: Memo

    and second unit:

    PG: Price
    SG: CJ
    SF: AK
    PF: Boozer
    C: Fes

  • A coach can't
    Nov. 12, 2009 12:39 p.m.

    force his players to play hard, all he can do is teach, encourage, and motivate, then discipline players not doing their job, (Boozer, Memo, Brewer, Millsap...). Sloan is one of the best. While all these other coaches win 20% of their games and get fired in a season, he has won almost 70%, has 20 season's experience, has been to the finals, and is a hall of famer. He's not the problem. Phil Jackson would've dumped most of these guys in a second, Sloan took em to the Western finals. how many Div or Conf championships have you people won? now do it with a bunch of NBA rejects.

  • jazzman 98
    Nov. 12, 2009 12:24 p.m.

    Should start-

    PG: Deron
    SG: Korver
    SF: CJ
    PF: Boozer
    C: Fes

    This is the best "jazz" lineup. Excellent point guard, two shooting wings, a scoring power forward, and a big (hopefully defensive) center. Also the bench becomes very good here.

    PG: Price
    SG: Brewer
    SF: AK
    PF: Millsap
    C: Memo

    Sprinkle Kuf and Mathews in the mix, and I will take that 2nd team against anyones backups in the league. Both the starters and 2nd team have a good mix of talent and hustle and defense (relitively speaking).

    Nov. 12, 2009 12:17 p.m.

    Byron Scott, Hornets head coach just got fired, Sloan is next, just watch. Jazz will be 3-7 after this road trip. Peace out Sloan.

  • Kevin in ther Terrace
    Nov. 12, 2009 12:03 p.m.

    Sloan making changes, bout time. Why not try to develope some of the newcommers.

  • @suggestion
    Nov. 12, 2009 11:52 a.m.

    It is a start. Koufos plays defense and rebounds. Fez can play defense, rebound and dunk. However, we need more offense. Maybe rotate a combination of Fez Koufos Okur, Millsap and Boozer (depending on if Boozer/Millsap are playing well). Try to keep Fez/Koufos paired with an offensive player.

    Boozer seems to do better at C when combined with Millsap or Koufos at PF.

    AK/Mathews are needed to open the inside game from the outside. They will have to be paired with Brewer from time to time as they can not play 48 minutes.

    The biggest problem is PG. If DWill can't go or go well, AK may have to play point forward.

    Maybe change the pace to super slow and use Fez Koufos on the inside. Make it a defensive struggle/slow down game? That would milk more minutes out of DWill, AK and Mathews.

    Sloan is going to have to actually coach this game and that means make some adjustments for the players who are actually playing well and forget his usual rotations.

    Sloan has always kissed Boozer (and most VETs). It is time he started playing people who will actually play hard.

  • The Truth
    Nov. 12, 2009 11:51 a.m.

    If we aren't going to play D, then we might as well be Phoenix. At least they play an interesting style of basketball and we have the point guard to do it. When Korver and CJ get back, we will have the 3 point shooting and with AK we have the quick powerforward. I like how after experimenting with Booz and Memo together for like what 4 years, we finally need a change? you think! Fess, Milsap,AK,Brewer,D-will should start and set the tone of playing hard. (Even Boston, who could start Garnett and Wallace together, don't. They keep a banger (Perkins) in their starting line up.) Booz and Memo should be paired with either Fess or Koufos to keep more size on the floor but who knows Jerry will probably do nothing???

  • Glad that we...
    Nov. 12, 2009 11:50 a.m.

    DID NOT re-sign Brewer for what he was asking.

    Can you hear that in the distance? What is that sound?


    Ya, that would be yet another WIDE OPEN UNCONTESTED BREWER JUMPSHOT.

    It is just unsustainable.

    Wide open and he misses more than he makes.

    Conversely, we all cringe when our opponents get wide open looks because we know more often than not they make them.

    It is not rocket science.

    This team has serious personnel problems. There is nothing serious wrong with the coaching..we just have a bunch of players who can't/won't defend and can't score when left wide open.

    No coach is suddenly going to make Brewer a shooter. Don't kid yourself. Good athlete but a shooting guard who can't shoot is not going to get the job done.

    Every team we see just packs the paint.

    We fluked into a win against the Knicks.


    AK hit his shots from outside. If he would have had just an average night we lose easily. It sure wasn't the defense that stopped the Knicks.

  • Tinkering with head coaching pos
    Nov. 12, 2009 11:47 a.m.

    To bad we can not as a fan base just vote and get Sloan out of here. I had an argument with a fellow season ticket holder if it is sloan's fault. He thinks it is the players. Being a coach myself i know that it is my job and his job to get everyone ready to play and motivated. He is a predictable joke who needs to retire. Take you size 30 ego and ride off to your farm.

  • I agree
    Nov. 12, 2009 11:45 a.m.

    ,agree,agree and agree.

  • Anonymous
    Nov. 12, 2009 11:43 a.m.

    put brewer on the bench and bring out Matthews. from what i've seen, hes played with more heart than anyone else on the team other than williams and kirilenko

  • Pick Your Poison
    Nov. 12, 2009 11:42 a.m.

    I'm curious what us fans would prefer... including the Knicks' 1st round pick with Boozer just to get a decent player in return (my wish would be Bosh) or to hold on to that pick and hope we get a Bosh-type 4 in the draft? What's your opinion?

  • Time for Sloan to go
    Nov. 12, 2009 11:33 a.m.

    Retire already. EVERY team in the NBA knows the Jazz's schemes and can game plan without watching video of us. Clear out the coaching staff (except for Ty Corbin, maybe) and let's get some fresh ideas in here. I'd gladly take a hit over ditching Sloan than another 1st round loss with no defense on star players.

  • Hee's another suggeston
    Nov. 12, 2009 11:30 a.m.

    PG: D-Will
    SG: Brewer
    SF: Korver, when healthy
    PF: Boozer
    C: Okur
    Head Coach: Scott Layden or Frank Layden or Jeff Hornecek or John Stockton or Ty Corbin or Tom Nisalke or Hot Rod or Ron Boone or Gail Miller. ANYBODY BUT SLOAN.

    My reasoning:

    Sloan is poison to the immediate and long term success of this franchise.

  • KD
    Nov. 12, 2009 11:22 a.m.

    The coaching staff should have had all these things figured out. It's like when Phil Jackson replaced Dell Harris at LA, his coaching style was able to get a bunch of egos to play together as a team. Nothing changed there, mainly just the style of coaching. Sloan's done the Jazz so much good and he can't ever be thanked enough. Bottom line though, we have the talent, someone's just got to bring it out.

  • Put a fork
    Nov. 12, 2009 11:20 a.m.

    in Jerry Sloan, he is done. I guess he can make a lineup change, that is a good way of blaming others for his incoherent and useless coaching.

    Jerry, please do the honest and morally correct thing and walk away. Deep down you know that you offer nothing to the future of this franchise. If you really love this team and it's fans and city/state, then do the right thing and retire.

  • Stupid
    Nov. 12, 2009 11:19 a.m.

    I think the Jazz are lazy. Makin' all that money..whether they win or lose. Boozer is the worst defensive player ever. Is is soft? Afraid of blocking out or shutting down the lane. YUP! And Okur... not sure he knows which end of the floor is which. Come on Jerry.. make some changes. We'd be happy with EFFORT from your players!

  • Sokol
    Nov. 12, 2009 11:09 a.m.

    Put the fans out of their misery and dump all of these scrubs and bumbs...

  • EB
    Nov. 12, 2009 11:03 a.m.

    RE: A sprained toe

    Did John actually ever laugh?

    He did, however, help the bigs against the post-up players.

  • Here's a suggestion
    Nov. 12, 2009 10:50 a.m.

    PG: D-Will
    SG: Wes Matthews
    SF: Kirilenko (sad that he's the best option now)
    PF: Koufos
    C: Fess

    My reasoning:
    Yeah, we'll probably get the same result (losing), but atleast they would all play hard and be fun to watch, a la 2004 Jazz team. Wes Matthews is a better shooter than Brewer. Koufos and Fess will add a defensive presence, and HUSTLE. Basically, I'm sick of watching Okur, Boozer, Millsap and Brewer get a free pass because they have experience. None of them are producing this year, so why not try fresh blood?!

  • roy
    Nov. 12, 2009 10:36 a.m.

    i think the jazz players are scared of sloan. he is so grumpy and scarry when they go back to the bench no wonder they are under so much pressure to win. he even complains when they win also.

  • I still like the idea of getting
    Nov. 12, 2009 10:25 a.m.

    some one like Alston who would solve the back up PG problem and also some of the perimeter defense and outside shooting problem.

    There may be better options than Alston but he would do the Jazz no financial harm and probably would instantly solve 2 immediate problems. He may be worth an extra 5-10 wins this season depending on DWill wear and tear.

  • Millsap will start but...
    Nov. 12, 2009 10:25 a.m.

    I'm not sure that is going to do anything to help much other than he does play better defense. That said he can't defend BIG's at all because he is too short.

    He gets some blocks but it is usually in help defense NEVER on his own man as they just "get into him" and shoot over the top.

    I am no Locke fan but heard some of his stats on the radio yesterday before the game.

    AK on the bench the Jazz are -24 against opponents.
    AK on the floor the Jazz are +4 against opponents.

    Sure that does not mean just leave AK on the floor 24/7 but what it does mean is they are completely defenseless when he is off the floor.

    Just saying--we have to get some players on the floor who will defend or our lottery pick will be within one selection of the Knicks pick we are getting.

    Kind of quandry though. We have to get Fess on the floor but we obviously lose offense when we do--he and AK are the only players we have that defend the paint at all.

  • Jimm z
    Nov. 12, 2009 10:25 a.m.

    Sloan, call a timeout once in while, dont take a guy
    out of the game when he is hot. And put Boozer, on the bench. Please

  • I have been constructively
    Nov. 12, 2009 10:22 a.m.

    critical of Sloan and the FO. He is finally forced into making some changes.

    In defense of Sloan/FO I would like to make the following points. They view it all from a longer term perspective.

    They know they will move Boozer one way or the other sooner or later. If they can get good play out of him in the short run so much the better.

    They know CJ and Korver will heal. That will fix the zone problem.

    However, the deeper problems such as NO back up PG, poor defense, PFs who are to short and coaching biases won't fix themselves. Only changes in players and maybe coaches will fix those.

  • Starting Lineup
    Nov. 12, 2009 10:21 a.m.

    It isn't just the line up, we need to get a couple hard nosed players in here to get these guys playing mean defense. Nobody is intimidated when they drive to the basket against the Jazz. In fact, they are all thinking it is a good way to get three points.

  • Gutless Starters
    Nov. 12, 2009 10:20 a.m.

    Boozer and Okur together WILL NEVER WIN ANYTHING. Those two together represent a layup drill for the other team.

    As soon as Boozer is on the floor the other team just runs steady pick n roll involving him. They know what will happen--so do we. He seems mentally incapable of learning to defend it which translated means he won't make the effort.

    Alternatively, Millsap has been a joke too.

    Although Fesenko is not much offensively he INSTANTLY changes the game defensively. I saw multiple times where he altered shots that did not go in and I saw at least 2 different players dribble into the paint, saw Fess, and then turned around and dribbled straight back out.

    When was the last time an opponent ever did that with Booz or Okur standing in front of them?


    All opponents see with those two is a layup which they get uncontested repeatedly.

    This team clearly does not believe they can win with Boozer on the floor. Most of them have quit playing any D they were all talking about in preseason.

    It just does not work when ALL players are not committed.

    This season is already a disaster.

  • A sprained toe?
    Nov. 12, 2009 10:12 a.m.

    Karl and John would have laughed that off.