Agreed, 100%. AK could once again be a key assett to this team, but Sloan and
Boozer have destroyed him and his will to this point. When Boozer was out last
year, AK was much more productive, as soon as loozer returned AK looked lost.
I don't blame him, why focus on "D" when the 'star' doesn't play a
lick of it and still has every offensive play run for him. What a joke this
boozer guy is.
Guys - who really is to blame? It's KOC! He's the one who put this team
together. It's garbage. He can't draft well (lopez, humphries, almond,
pavlovic, stevenson, etc, etc.) Sure Sloan can do a better job coaching, but get
real. This is ALL on KOC. This team is garbage. Fire KOC! He does not know
talent, how to draft, nor how to build a championship team!!!!!!!!!
If Phil Johnson wanted to be a head coach, he would have left a long time ago.
When Jerry goes, he will go.
Jazz will tank and earn 2 lottery picks in next year's draft (assuming NY
continues to stink equally as bad as the Jazz). Sloan will be put out to
pasture, Snoozer will finally be off the books and out of our hair.New coach, new rookies...Nowhere to go but up from here.Just don't
tell me that Miller will replace Sloan with Johnson, please don't tell me that.
You guys are going to look very bad after 3 or 4 weeks when Jerry has turned
things around... Sloan is the best there is and I believe in him.
Hey it's the return of magnus, just in time to rearrange the deck chairs on the
titanic that Sloan has built. Keep telling us what a good Coach he is, it's
Boozer has got to go! I think it is a moral issue. Who would want to play with
such a back stabber? How many turnovers have Okur and Boozer had this year? Time
to make some serious decisions.ove okur sometimes and cringe at other times.
Good off of the bench. Boozer would be good off the team. Stop bringing everyone
else down with you boozer. No one likes you anymore. I am 5'6" 150lbs and could
take you to the hole every time!!!!!!!Go away!!!!!!
will one of you guys download todays boards and forward them to Greg. Sloan
obviously does not read us or he would get the points. Ten thousand fans can not
be wrong Greg, not most all ten thousand fans. DO SOMETHING GREG....JUST DO IT
PLEASE. It is your responsibility now Greg, not Dad's.
Tomorrow night prediction 99-93 Philly Saturday 111-93 Cleveland
Sloan could not be replaced by someone better is in denial. Sloan has strengths
and weaknesses. His weaknesses have gotten to a point where they are killing the
team. This team is begging for a coaching change. 1. For
at least 3 years Sloan knew this team could not play defense and never would.
2. Sloan has also known that Boozer/Okur were good enough to make
the playoffs but not go much further. 3. Sloan could have gotten
wings who shoot but refused to do anything until he was forced to trade Gordon,
who was giving him grief for Korver. 4. He knew he needed a real
back up PG. He got cheap junk and the Jazz lost how many games because of it?
Finally after 3 years they draft Maynor who is very iffy. Brilliant coaching.
5. Sloan knows he needs a better PF, back up PG and shooting wings.
What has been done in 3 years? He also knew he would not get defense unless he
traded for it. Where is the defense? No one holds Sloan accountable.
Miller's reputation as an owner is now at stake. This team is a
1.With the same core players this team has consistently gotten worse. The jazz
should be getting better as the players mature and know each other’s
game.2.Defensive 3pt philosophy. Jazz opponents shoot 41% from the 3
point line! This alone should be enough but this does not bother Sloan to change
his philosophy. Still not convinced? Lets do some math. Say an opponent takes 20
shots from 3 and 2 from 2 range. That would result in 3*.41*20~25pts from 3 pt
shots vs 2*.47*20~19pts from inside. NO WONDER EVEN THE WORST TEAMS KILL THE
JAZZ FROM THE 3pt. Anyone want to add 3,4,5 etc?
Those saying Sloan is not to blame well not fully the players have to share some
of the blame but let me ask you this if Kobe Bryant put up the same kind of
effort we see Boozer putting up and various other players too I would guarantee
it would not be three seasons or three games later before he is riding pine by
Phil Jackson. You set the tone with lazy players by benching them for a couple
games. Lets face it certain coaches are able to bring out the best in their
players and Sloan is not one of them.
When times were tough, John and Karl used to say everyone including themselves
had to look in the mirror and see what they could do better. I appreciate
Deron's competitiveness and willingness to say that some players are playing
selfeshly, but everyone, including Deron, needs to look at themselves in the
mirror............and keep Boozer away from the microphone. Nothing is ever that
"man's(ie whiny crybaby)" fault.
Guaranteed contracts have killed this team. Ak,boozer, millsap. They got
their big paydays and now their motivation is gone. I hope they score in the
draft next summer.
Some good stuff here, I loved the guy who threw out the "The Suns fired their
coach, and look where they are now!" Ya, look, three years later they are
finally back to being as good as they where before they fired him, and they had
to hire back one of D'Antonis prodigies to do it.Now the Hornets
fired Scott...does anybody really think that is going to make a dimes worth of
difference in their season? They might win more games, maybe less, but if you
don't have the horses you aint winning the race, no matter who the Jockey is.I do love what the Hornets owner did though. When the GM fired Scott he
basically said, "well, you say you have built a winning team here, and that
coaching is the problem, so how about you coach them and prove it." That's
Awesome.I really hope sloan does mix it up this next game, Boozer,
Okur, Millsap, Brewer and Williams all need a wake-up call. Losing playing time
might be that call.
Come on, you can't really believe Slosn has the final say on who stays and goes.
There are so many factors. First, money and salary cap. Who is available. Who a
team already has on there roster. Are you telling us that Sloan had a choice on
keeping Ostertag. The relationship between Sloan and Greg was infamously bad.
So, some are saying that Sloan has purposely put together a team that is often
unsuccessful. You can only coach with what you've been given.
PG DWILLSG MATHEWSSF AKPF MILSAPC FES2ND UNITPG PRICE-MAYNORSG BREWER KORVERSF MILES KORVER BREWERPF OKUR
BOOZERC KOSTA OKURCOACH TY CORBIN
byron scott just got fired i wonder if the millers have any guts and send sloan
to the farm. scott was better than sloan.
Sloan has been the man almost from day one. He has had his way with the draft,
trades, and free agent aquistions. Don't let anyone tell you anything different.
He also hand picked looser O'Connor knowing he would fold into what ever he
wanted to do. Jerry Sloan is responsible for what we have on the floor, if he
did not have that control he would have left years ago. Do you really think
ANYONE is going to tell the almighty tough Sloan what to do and have him agree?
Silly. Even the Millers are scared of this man, don't give me the feeble excuse
that they love him PLEASE!
Really...should have titled "Jazz toying with an idea of new coach" Just look
at the New Orleans Hornets, Byron Scott just got tossed out today!!! No matter
what line up you put out in the floor...theres no motivation among the players,
time for Sloan to retire!!!!
Wow, you guys honestly think that it is the coaches responsiblity make the
player's care. what is sloan, THE BEST COACH IN THE NBA supposed to do to make
his players play hard. You hear him say after every single game that it's all
effort, WHICH IT IS, and you all blame him for not knowing what is going on, and
you repeat everything he says. GET BOOZER OUT, HE'S AN INFECTION! (By the way,
don't you hate it how boozer smiles and laughs everytime he makes a mistake)
Why are these players still here and still in the rotation? This is not new!
It is not just this year or just the last two years! Jerry is keeping these guys
and he is putting them on the floor!
It was nice to see that Coach Sloan was considered as one of the great coaches
along with John Wooden, Dean Smith and Red Aerbach (it is actually spelled
Auerbach). If his mind or enthusiasm for the game has faded then maybe, but to
think Sloan should resign because they are disappointed in the effort of their
team is crazy. What about the minds and enthusiasm of the players? Where is
their heart? Competitiveness?
His position doesn't make that much difference! When he does go in low he
fumbles the ball, throws it away, or gets blocked. He really is not that good of
a player when all is said and done. The only reason he looked ggod back when was
because quite frankly he was the ONLY player on the team-don't you people
remember our roster then? Filled with no nothings. While I'm at it lets put
Brewer on the same get out of town team with Boozer, Memo, Price,and Maynor.
Give playing time to KK and Fess to see if they in fact should join this group
or whether in fact they are ballers. What a mess.
I believed what you are saying.........3 years ago! I knew these wimps were
pretenders. Why did Sloan not demand to have AK, Boozer, etc dumped? He is
either a poor coach or he is losing his mind to have roster like this. I loved
Jerry for 25 years. The things that have been going on with the Jazz the last
3 years are very strange and make no sense at all. You never put
three guys as soft as AK, Boozer and Memo on the floor together....not even in
City League!Sloan is either getting or giving bad advice. And if he
is not smart enough or powerful enough to stop O'Connel, why is he being paid
$5,000,000.00 per season to coach this team. Also why is Fess on the bench @
7'1", 300+ lbs.???What is going on my friends???Are
Randy Rigby, Denny Haslam, Tim Howells and Greg Miller all going to lose their
credibility over Jerry and O'Kevin? These are very smart businessmen! I really
have a hard time believing that they would want to let this all go down without
making a move or washing their hands.
Slaon has become a joke.First slaons says who starts does NOT
matter, that who finishes is what is important,then slaons
wants to convince us tinking with the starting line up,will show us
what a clever coach he is,what a joke.
...........is Greg?We will soon find out...........stay tuned!
John Wooden was a great coach so was Dean Smith................legends. They
both left in a dignified manner......as did Red Aerbach!It is hard
to watch Jerry and Phil over on the bench having niki fits of rage!
Get rid of Sloan? Part III For all those that think getting rid of Sloan will
solve the problem, your crazy. What are some of the reasons you have posted? 3)
Sitting on the bench during a game not enthused. Maybe Sloan is getting tired of
working his rear off and having his players fold on him. Where is the leadership
from the key players? Sloan is only successful if his players follow his lead
and believe in his philosophy. Part I and II should lay to rest any questions
about what Sloan is doing and it's effectiveness. The Jazz need their key
players to call out those who are not pulling their weight. Stand behind your
coach. Sloan might get more interested if the team was doing something
Where things could be going so badly for an organization and have everyone
(Owner, managmnet, coaches, players, MILLER MEDIA, pretend that nothing is
wrong. This is one of the most ridiculous situations I have ever witnessed in
@ Phnehme.....Yep. Thats what we need to do. Bench the teams second leading
scorer and leading rebounder. Sure nuff! That'd cure it!
Todd Scott is equally as bad as Slown. He doesn't get along with his players
very long because of his ego. He got ran out of New Jersey and New Orleans
because the PLAYERS STOPPED listening just like SLown.WE NEED A MAJOR
CHANGE NOT MORE OF THE SAME.
Part I For all those that think getting rid of Sloan will solve the problem,
your crazy. What are some of the reasons you have posted? 1) everyone knows his
schemes. It that was the case, the Lakers, Spurs, Celtics, Magic, et. al. head
coaches would be just as guilty as Sloan. These teams are successful because
each player knows their roles and where they need to be in the offense. From
what I have seen, when players try to go on there own the trouble starts. There
wasn't much complaint about the schemes when Stockton and Malone were on the
Jazz. Every ask yourselves why not? Because they were successful running their
schemes. So lay this one to rest.
Then we can get all rid of the "sloanaholics" also and clean things up around
here, hope many leave with Jerry and get a smarter fan base
want Sloan gone? You guys know what to do---do it
Better idea. Pay jerry off thank him and get him out of here, give him Carte
Blanche to always be welcome in this organization, make it out to be mutual and
hire Scott who can start Friday night.Of course, Greg will not do
that too much like Dad.ANd you guys worry about us "outsiders"
making trouble?Funny stuff.See if this continues, no one
will be going to games anyway see what crowds in Sacramento are?They have a more entertaining product now than we doFar moreThen again they have a coach that is getting moreout lets see, Hawes,
Thompson, Greene, Udrih, Nocconi etc etc
Starters:PG: DuhSG: BrewerSF: MillsapPF: AKC:
FezBench:PG: MaynorSG: MathewsSF: Brewer/AKPF: BoozerC: Okur
Miller about seen enough of this irresponsible mess. Ready to toy with
management and coaching change.
Jerry, please stop stealing money from the Miller family. They have already
taken a hit in the car business. They are better off investing the 7 million a
year with Bernie Maddoff.
Since were playing Coach here, how aboutStarters:PG: DWillSG: MathewsSF: AKPF: MemoC: Fezyou could have a
rotation of big men for the 4/5 depending on matchups, and soon as Korver/Miles
are healthy, nice depth at the wings. I believe that starting line-up is
the best combo of Offense & Defense.What do you all think?
Heard in Illinois. John Deere tractors.
Boozer needs to go. I don't think there is another player in the league that is
as soft, with absolutely no defensive ability. He knows he has the jazz over a
barrell, so why try? Bury him on the bench until they can unload him for another
expireing contract. AK needs to move back to the 4, Fes needs to start at
center. Okur can back up the 4 and the 5 depending on match ups. Given his play
Mathews should start and Brewer should be the back up. Hey here's a real novel
idea....how about giving out playing time based on performance rather then
TIME FOR SLOAN TO "TOY" WITH A TRACTOR IN ILLINOIS. IT IS TIME TO HANG EM UP
IS anyone really surprised that when the Jazz are basically the same team team
as last year that nothing changed??? Sloan should man-up and retire. He must be
delusional to think what he's doing is working. Here's what needs to be done:1-Sloan out(Take a hint from New Orleans..)2- Take Boozer and Okur with
him or bench them.3- Get a shooting guard who can shoot4- Hire Jeff
Hornacek to coach5- The Utah press need to quit making excuses and
actually report the sports news and quit kissing up to the Millers6- Keep
praying the Knicks are as bad as the Jazz
I think Jerry Sloan is too old to coach in the NBA. Sure he had some nice years
in the '90s, but his time has passed.
I agree I think its time for Sloan to go and bring in a fresh face
I think its time for Slon to go
2 season was the Jazz's best season. The team had a great record and strong +/-
of +565 points against opponents an average margin of victory was +6.9 per game.
The Jazz had the 2nd beat offense in the NBA. Almost every lineup the Jazz
used was sucessful. Williams, Brewer, AK, Boozer and Okur started and they were
actually one of the most unproductive lines ups - even though they played almost
1000 minutes they had a +/- of 78. When we subbed Millsap for either Boozer or
Okur that season with the same other 3 players the Jazz +/- was over 100 and
they only played together under 400 minutes. The next season the
Jazz substituted AK for Miles and the next season the Jazz's +/- was about -18
for over 700 minutes. Now Boozer was injured so during that time the Jazz
Millsap played in that lineup. The point is Boozer and Okur cannot
be successful together. You need one defensive big man. Sloan cannot make them
play defense. The Jazz need to trade either Boozer for a small
forward so we can have AK back play PF some times and get Fess more minutes
you are speaking the truth. it about time somebody points out AK's worth to our
team. yeah he got a big contract, and he deserved it to. its not his fault he
went from filling the stat sheet up at the 4 and then the next year we sign
loozer to play 4. AK got it big time. he is so awesome at 4 it boggles my mind
that he doesnt play there. he is a decent enough shooter that any 4 in the
league would have to respect that and he would be able to drive on any 4 as
well. defensively it keeps him low to contest shots. if we are all fed up with
boozer and milsaps play of late, lets put AK at the 4 and watch him put up his
all-star numbers again. boozer has to go. i dont care where, just not on the
coach. Sloan had better watch his back. Greg might be more of a businessman that
some people think. When you have a team that is this disfunctional
and Sloan has made all of the decisions in the last 3 years it is pretty obvious
who you hold accountable.What ever you do DON'T hand the team to
Phil. He can't run it better than Sloan. Corbin or Layden, maybe?
Part of being an NBA coach is managing Egos. Another part is managing the
game.Before Boozer got hurt this was his team to some extent and it
reflected his mood swings. After he was out for ever the team moved on and it
became DWill, Okur and to some extent Millsap's team. With Boozer back the
chemistry leadership is unsettled (at best). Things are so bad right
now Sloan does not need to worry about Egos. He has and needs to worry about
keeping the right combinations on the floor at all times in spite of having
limited options. The Jazz are desparate for this win. Who starts is
not relevant. What is relevant is keeping a combination of players on the floor
who maximize the net score. Sloan will have to constantly change the mix of
players to both maximize scoring and defense all night in order to win. In my opinion that is what he should have been doing for several years
instead of just running his preset rotations by the clock.It is long
past time for Sloan to scrap his Vet bias and ego management and actually coach
the game to win.
people i think would be great coaches for the Jazz...John Stockton...having the
greatest point guard in the history as your coach is alone a motivator..mix that
with his never winning a championship (everyone would play for him) and he is a
born leader and a firey leader!!! Karl Malone...i think karl would do the same
as Stock and wouldnt it be great to see footage of practice and seeing karl
malone get so P.O'd at booz that he gets in the action and "show's" Boozer how
to play the game of basketball?!?! and last but not least...Charles Barkley...i
would just love that because the jazz are already downhill and to have a coach
that you would barely be able to understand stomping up and down the court that
would be awesome!!! Barkley has a love for the jazz and actually in my opinion
would be a great coach! would make a great motivator...(oh i say even look at
Jeff Hornecek...wouldnt hurt) they would all do better than the outdated style
of play by Jerry Sloan...sorry Sloan...i love ya man...but its time to go
People need to stop bagging on AK for his contract. When the Jazz signed him to
that deal they had him as their cornerstone player, the guy they were going to
build around. Then they did a complete turn around and since then the Jazz have
been playing him at the 3. That's not his position, especially in the Jazz
offense. That's why after leading Russia to the Euro championship at the 4 spot
AK was so unhappy. The Jazz have him guarding people on the perimeter, not
necessarly his strength, instead of providing some shot blocking inside like
Booz is doing? yeah right. AK take the jazz money, that's what they get for
playing you out of your natural 4 spot. I'm hoping that the Jazz trade you to a
team that runs....so I can watch the AK of old.
Why not do what New Orleans just did and fire the coach and his staff? Phoenix
has done the same thing in recent years and look at them now, also they have
dumped player after player forever and always come back contending. This status
quo thing is over bearing and needs changing RIGHT NOW! I'm sick of lame
excuses. Get new management including this so-called GM we have out of here,
along with new coaches unwanted players and lets compete again.
What about this for a starting lineup...PG: WilliamsSG:
MatthewsSF: AKPF: MillsapC: FesenkoMatthews and
AK have been shooting it well enough from outside and I think this group would
be good defensively.or this...PG: WilliamsSG:
BrewerSF: AKPF: OkurC: FesenkoI would really
like to see Fes and Okur on the court together more. They havent used it much
this year but when they have it has been effective. This is probably the
starting lineup I'd like to see most right now.
We have a point guard and a very good back up power forward (Millsap). Our team
is embrassing. Anyone who thinks the Jazz are contenders needs to be honest
with themselves (Last night it was obvious. We are never going to get a ring
with this group! We need to start building with D-Will. Please don't let me
watch Boozer give opponents lay up drills, while Okur appears to help out with
15 lbs weights tied to each foot. This team is medicore at best. It was fools
gold when we made it to the WC finals, because Dallas Choked. Let's start it
over with the help of the Knicks and move on with life. I can't stand to see
Denver and Portland get it together while we bet the farm on these clowns.
People in this group have no loyalty to the Jazz (they just want a check)= AK,
Boozer. How Can we give a max contract to a guy that can't even make it on the
All Star Ballot (AK). This franchise has truly went down hill.
You have a valid point or two, but Sloan is NOT encouraging and motivating
during games. He sits on the bench with his mouth open and has the same lost
look on his face throughout the game. It is pathetic. Every player on that
team has been chosen by Sloan to be there. He is the true GM, and is the
problem. The "NBA rejects" on this team were signed and offered extensions with
Sloan's approval. The poor defense, especially interior D, has been a problem
for a few years now. This is the coach's job to correct. This core of players
have had plenty of time to respond. The ability is there and if the coach can't
bring it out of the players he has chosen to be a part of his "system", then the
coach has got to go. The Celtics are an old team and ran laps around the Jazz.
The NBA game has evolved, Sloan has not.
Slown has admitted that he isn't a motivator. The game has changed. Slown is
lost and the players need a motivated leader. Nobody claims that Slown is not a
great coach, but it's is time for a change.Something needs to be
done and replacing unmotivated players with different unmotivated players will
still be a loss.I hope the Jazz and Knicks both keep losing. Two top
picks in the draft is way better than a one a done 8th seeed in the playoffs.
Especially if the Jazz get a new coach.Fire/Retire Slown
please.I predict Slown will be the next coach gone. Out of a job before
Start Memo at PF and Fes at center. Milsap and Boozer are backups unless they're
playing in nationally televised games. Maybe if Boozer gets benched he'll come
out mad enough to play some D.
How about:PG: DeronSG: MathewsSF: BrewerPF:
MillsapC: Memoand second unit:PG: PriceSG:
CJSF: AKPF: BoozerC: Fes
force his players to play hard, all he can do is teach, encourage, and motivate,
then discipline players not doing their job, (Boozer, Memo, Brewer, Millsap...).
Sloan is one of the best. While all these other coaches win 20% of their games
and get fired in a season, he has won almost 70%, has 20 season's experience,
has been to the finals, and is a hall of famer. He's not the problem. Phil
Jackson would've dumped most of these guys in a second, Sloan took em to the
Western finals. how many Div or Conf championships have you people won? now do
it with a bunch of NBA rejects.
Should start-PG: DeronSG: KorverSF: CJPF:
BoozerC: FesThis is the best "jazz" lineup. Excellent point
guard, two shooting wings, a scoring power forward, and a big (hopefully
defensive) center. Also the bench becomes very good here.PG:
PriceSG: BrewerSF: AKPF: MillsapC: MemoSprinkle Kuf and Mathews in the mix, and I will take that 2nd team against
anyones backups in the league. Both the starters and 2nd team have a good mix of
talent and hustle and defense (relitively speaking).
Byron Scott, Hornets head coach just got fired, Sloan is next, just watch. Jazz
will be 3-7 after this road trip. Peace out Sloan.
Sloan making changes, bout time. Why not try to develope some of the newcommers.
It is a start. Koufos plays defense and rebounds. Fez can play defense, rebound
and dunk. However, we need more offense. Maybe rotate a combination of Fez
Koufos Okur, Millsap and Boozer (depending on if Boozer/Millsap are playing
well). Try to keep Fez/Koufos paired with an offensive player. Boozer seems to do better at C when combined with Millsap or Koufos at PF.AK/Mathews are needed to open the inside game from the outside. They
will have to be paired with Brewer from time to time as they can not play 48
minutes. The biggest problem is PG. If DWill can't go or go well, AK
may have to play point forward. Maybe change the pace to super slow
and use Fez Koufos on the inside. Make it a defensive struggle/slow down game?
That would milk more minutes out of DWill, AK and Mathews.Sloan is
going to have to actually coach this game and that means make some adjustments
for the players who are actually playing well and forget his usual rotations.
Sloan has always kissed Boozer (and most VETs). It is time he
started playing people who will actually play hard.
If we aren't going to play D, then we might as well be Phoenix. At least they
play an interesting style of basketball and we have the point guard to do it.
When Korver and CJ get back, we will have the 3 point shooting and with AK we
have the quick powerforward. I like how after experimenting with Booz and Memo
together for like what 4 years, we finally need a change? you think! Fess,
Milsap,AK,Brewer,D-will should start and set the tone of playing hard. (Even
Boston, who could start Garnett and Wallace together, don't. They keep a banger
(Perkins) in their starting line up.) Booz and Memo should be paired with either
Fess or Koufos to keep more size on the floor but who knows Jerry will probably
DID NOT re-sign Brewer for what he was asking.Can you hear that in
the distance? What is that sound?CLANK!!!Ya, that would
be yet another WIDE OPEN UNCONTESTED BREWER JUMPSHOT.It is just
unsustainable.Wide open and he misses more than he makes.Conversely, we all cringe when our opponents get wide open looks because we
know more often than not they make them.It is not rocket science.This team has serious personnel problems. There is nothing serious
wrong with the coaching..we just have a bunch of players who can't/won't defend
and can't score when left wide open.No coach is suddenly going to
make Brewer a shooter. Don't kid yourself. Good athlete but a shooting guard
who can't shoot is not going to get the job done.Every team we see
just packs the paint.We fluked into a win against the Knicks. WHY?AK hit his shots from outside. If he would have had
just an average night we lose easily. It sure wasn't the defense that stopped
To bad we can not as a fan base just vote and get Sloan out of here. I had an
argument with a fellow season ticket holder if it is sloan's fault. He thinks
it is the players. Being a coach myself i know that it is my job and his job to
get everyone ready to play and motivated. He is a predictable joke who needs to
retire. Take you size 30 ego and ride off to your farm.
,agree,agree and agree.
put brewer on the bench and bring out Matthews. from what i've seen, hes played
with more heart than anyone else on the team other than williams and kirilenko
I'm curious what us fans would prefer... including the Knicks' 1st round pick
with Boozer just to get a decent player in return (my wish would be Bosh) or to
hold on to that pick and hope we get a Bosh-type 4 in the draft? What's your
Retire already. EVERY team in the NBA knows the Jazz's schemes and can game
plan without watching video of us. Clear out the coaching staff (except for Ty
Corbin, maybe) and let's get some fresh ideas in here. I'd gladly take a hit
over ditching Sloan than another 1st round loss with no defense on star players.
PG: D-WillSG: BrewerSF: Korver, when healthyPF: BoozerC:
OkurHead Coach: Scott Layden or Frank Layden or Jeff Hornecek or John
Stockton or Ty Corbin or Tom Nisalke or Hot Rod or Ron Boone or Gail Miller.
ANYBODY BUT SLOAN.My reasoning:Sloan is poison to the
immediate and long term success of this franchise.
The coaching staff should have had all these things figured out. It's like when
Phil Jackson replaced Dell Harris at LA, his coaching style was able to get a
bunch of egos to play together as a team. Nothing changed there, mainly just the
style of coaching. Sloan's done the Jazz so much good and he can't ever be
thanked enough. Bottom line though, we have the talent, someone's just got to
bring it out.
in Jerry Sloan, he is done. I guess he can make a lineup change, that is a good
way of blaming others for his incoherent and useless coaching.Jerry,
please do the honest and morally correct thing and walk away. Deep down you
know that you offer nothing to the future of this franchise. If you really love
this team and it's fans and city/state, then do the right thing and retire.
I think the Jazz are lazy. Makin' all that money..whether they win or lose.
Boozer is the worst defensive player ever. Is is soft? Afraid of blocking out or
shutting down the lane. YUP! And Okur... not sure he knows which end of the
floor is which. Come on Jerry.. make some changes. We'd be happy with EFFORT
from your players!
Put the fans out of their misery and dump all of these scrubs and bumbs...
RE: A sprained toeDid John actually ever laugh?He did,
however, help the bigs against the post-up players.
PG: D-WillSG: Wes MatthewsSF: Kirilenko (sad that he's the best
option now)PF: KoufosC: FessMy reasoning: Yeah,
we'll probably get the same result (losing), but atleast they would all play
hard and be fun to watch, a la 2004 Jazz team. Wes Matthews is a better shooter
than Brewer. Koufos and Fess will add a defensive presence, and HUSTLE.
Basically, I'm sick of watching Okur, Boozer, Millsap and Brewer get a free pass
because they have experience. None of them are producing this year, so why not
try fresh blood?!
i think the jazz players are scared of sloan. he is so grumpy and scarry when
they go back to the bench no wonder they are under so much pressure to win. he
even complains when they win also.
some one like Alston who would solve the back up PG problem and also some of the
perimeter defense and outside shooting problem. There may be better
options than Alston but he would do the Jazz no financial harm and probably
would instantly solve 2 immediate problems. He may be worth an extra 5-10 wins
this season depending on DWill wear and tear.
I'm not sure that is going to do anything to help much other than he does play
better defense. That said he can't defend BIG's at all because he is too
short.He gets some blocks but it is usually in help defense NEVER on
his own man as they just "get into him" and shoot over the top.I am
no Locke fan but heard some of his stats on the radio yesterday before the
game.AK on the bench the Jazz are -24 against opponents.AK on
the floor the Jazz are +4 against opponents.Sure that does not mean
just leave AK on the floor 24/7 but what it does mean is they are completely
defenseless when he is off the floor.Just saying--we have to get
some players on the floor who will defend or our lottery pick will be within one
selection of the Knicks pick we are getting.Kind of quandry though.
We have to get Fess on the floor but we obviously lose offense when we do--he
and AK are the only players we have that defend the paint at all.
Sloan, call a timeout once in while, dont take a guy out of the game when
he is hot. And put Boozer, on the bench. Please
critical of Sloan and the FO. He is finally forced into making some changes. In defense of Sloan/FO I would like to make the following points. They
view it all from a longer term perspective. They know they will move
Boozer one way or the other sooner or later. If they can get good play out of
him in the short run so much the better. They know CJ and Korver
will heal. That will fix the zone problem.However, the deeper
problems such as NO back up PG, poor defense, PFs who are to short and coaching
biases won't fix themselves. Only changes in players and maybe coaches will fix
It isn't just the line up, we need to get a couple hard nosed players in here to
get these guys playing mean defense. Nobody is intimidated when they drive to
the basket against the Jazz. In fact, they are all thinking it is a good way to
get three points.
Boozer and Okur together WILL NEVER WIN ANYTHING. Those two together represent
a layup drill for the other team.As soon as Boozer is on the floor
the other team just runs steady pick n roll involving him. They know what will
happen--so do we. He seems mentally incapable of learning to defend it which
translated means he won't make the effort.Alternatively, Millsap has
been a joke too.Although Fesenko is not much offensively he
INSTANTLY changes the game defensively. I saw multiple times where he altered
shots that did not go in and I saw at least 2 different players dribble into the
paint, saw Fess, and then turned around and dribbled straight back out.When was the last time an opponent ever did that with Booz or Okur standing in
front of them?Never.All opponents see with those two is
a layup which they get uncontested repeatedly.This team clearly does
not believe they can win with Boozer on the floor. Most of them have quit
playing any D they were all talking about in preseason.It just does
not work when ALL players are not committed.This season is already a
Karl and John would have laughed that off.