Anonymous | 10:04 p.m. Nov. 11, 2009
Missing the "G"
Ahhh yeahhh | 11:03 p.m. Nov. 11, 2009
Utes in the BCS baby !!!
Anonymous | 1:19 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
The Utes are waaaaay overrated! Given, they are a good team but they are definitely lacking from what they had last year. I suspect a loss this weekend.
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Cewgs | 4:33 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
we are sooo going to the BCS. We will win the rest of our games and make it. this is our year! Forget what we've done, it's about what we are going to do! hahaha
Anonymous | 5:01 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
theres no way utah gets in even if they do win out.
Bear Laker | 6:26 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
Crush 'em, TCU!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! Yewts are worthless.
Matt | 6:27 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
I should have learned from last year never to count the Utes out even when they don't seem to be a powerhouse team. But I'm still not convinced that the Utes are that great. The odds are stacked against them this weekend. They have not looked very good all year and they have a freshman quarterback going up against one of the best defenses in the country.

I could be surprised by the Utes agains but I doubt it.
Re: Anonymous | 6:36 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
How can they be overrated when they are a 19.5 point underdog? By the way, they will cover that point spread, but a win will be hard to come by. Nevertheless.... GO UTES!
Go Utes!!!! | 6:37 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009

Beat TCU.
And if things fall right, Utah will be invited to Fiesta Bowl.
You're joking, right? | 6:42 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
Utes in the BCS - give me a break. what are the odds - 1/2 of 1%, maybe?

Whoever wrote this article appears to be scrambling to save his job, or hoping that he doesn't lose it, because this article is WORTHLESS. And for those who would say "then don't read it", I didn't. The headline was enough for me.
Bob2 | 6:55 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
Anon--they aren't overrated. Talk of a BCS bowl is overrated, but they aren't. They are the 15-20th best team in the country and if you watch a lot of college football, you know that's true. Like you, I SUSPECT a loss this weekend. But then, I suspected they might get it handed to them in New Orleans last Jan. I suspected that Alabama was a much better team. I never suspected that they would walk in there and smack the Tide in the face and smack them again. I will never bet against Whit's teams and I suspect that you would be a fool to do so.
even if | 7:06 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
the utes beat tcu, which they won't, i don't see them beating byu in provo. plus i really doubt boise state will lose. that is three very improbable propositions. one of the three may happen. two of the three very unlikely. but three? not happening.
Thank goodness | 7:10 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
Utah is quiet about the BCS, Bronco and his friends were talking BCS after the first two games.
what if ...  | 7:59 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
what if ... what if ... what if ... what if ... what if ...
there are thousands of different what if senarious out there for the top 25 teams.
I guess it's fun to check out the what if's for our local teams but the reality will probably be something different.
re: You're joking right? | 8:06 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
Actually, similar articles were written even after BYU got destroyed at home by 30 points to a mediocre FSU team.

So I don't think this is too outlandish from the author.

If BYU fans can talk about the BCS after the FSU loss, why can't Utah fans with their 1 loss coming at #10 Oregon by 7?

Not going to happen, but not any more unrealistic than BYU fans.
re: even if | 8:09 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
So even if Utah beats TCU on the road, who destroyed BYU by 31 in LES, you don't think they would beat BYU to end the season.

That might be the biggest homer comment ever from a BYU fan!

Comparative scores do not mean much, but geez if Utah can go down to Fort Worth and find a way to beat #4 TCU, BYU fans would be shaking in their boots. Because TCU and Utah have similar athletes, they are a good comparison when talking about playing BYU.
re: Thank goodness | 8:11 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
Nothing new there. BYU starts the BCS talk in April, only to give it up after a yearly drubbing to TCU. While Utah doesn't bring it up, yet finds themselves in the BCS twice in 4 years.
no way | 8:20 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
Utah not good enough. Boise not gonna lose. Its good for the conference to see TCU go all the way. They are a very dominant team.
Jimmy | 8:36 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
If you don't beat TCU there is nothing to talk about.
BCS dreaming | 8:40 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
It's fun to speculate, but anybody who thinks that the Utes have even a remote chance of busting the BCS this season is seriously delusional.

--first, the Utes have NO CHANCE of beating TCU in Fort Worth starting a freshman QB with only 6 quarters of experience against the #4 team in the country; probability 1:100

--second, the Utes have only a slight chance of beating BYU in Provo; probability 1:10

--third, the Utes have no control over Boise State losing, so the Utes have to rely on WAC teams that habitually roll over and play dead every time they come close to beating the Broncos; probability 1:50

Bottom line: The Utes are playing for a moral victory on Saturday and something they can use to talk smack for the next two weeks because "the Utes lost to TCU by less than BYU lost to TCU"

And, of course, they'll also have the excuse that they've carried in their back pocket all season, "this is Utah's rebuilding season so we're not expected to beat TCU and BYU"
36-3 | 8:41 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
Utah in a BCS bowl? Yeah good one. BSU is not going to lose again. Hey, I hope you beat TCU, you won't, but I'd love it, because that would put us in the Fiesta Bowl again.

Catch a clue, beating TCU does nothing for your BCS bowl aspirations.

Go Bronco Nation!!
twice in 5 years | 8:46 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
Ute math
2009 - 2004 = 4

Real math
2009 - 2004 = 5

BYU math
1984 > 2004 + 2008
#1 > #4 + #2
Anonymous | 8:51 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
What do the Utes in a BCS bowl game and Peter Pan have in common? Both are fairy tales. Fox Sports is predicting that the Utes will go to the Roady's Humanitarian Bowl. Go check it out.
Good decision, coach... | 9:08 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
...not talking about things that have no chance of happening.
Cougarf@n | 9:16 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
The yewts have a much better chance of making it to the BCS than people give them credit for. It think Utah has about a 30% chance against TCU and a slightly less than 50% chance against BYU. So there's still about a 1 in 6 chance that Utah goes 11-1 this year and at #16 with a forthcoming win over the #4 and #22 teams they'd move up four spots at a minimum to be in the auto-bid top-12 range.

Then it would just require a Boise State loss. Idaho and Nevada have a shot, but I'd probably say there's about a 20% chance of that (being generous to Utah).

So I think Utah is looking at about a 3-5% chance of a BCS game. At large might be a possibility, but I highly doubt it. On the balance, a BCS repeat is certainly possible, but not at all likely and certainly not something KW would want his team focusing on at this point. Besides, I think it enters the realm of impossiblity with a loss on Saturday.
re: twice in 5 years | 9:21 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
Correction to Cougar calendar reading:

2005 Fiesta Bowl (after 2004 season)

2009 Sugar Bowl (after 2008 season)

Now hold on tight for the math part


2008-2004=4!!!
Mr. J | 9:25 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
At least we have the BCS bowl to talk about as a possibilitey and a not so far fetched one at that, although unlikely. BSU still has Nevada which may be the hottest offense in the WAC right now, and don't forget that Corbin Louks is now part of their program. (ok that was joke.) And blowout in fort worth? The ute D wont let it happen. We just might have an upset on our hands. Point is, IT COULD HAPPEN! and WILL if we beat TCU and BSU loses. And a 1:10 chance in provo? Pa-lease!

oh and 12-0+13-0 > 13>0,
04+08 > 84,
04 or 08 = 84.

Go Yewts!!!!!!!
Whit's hubris | 9:25 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
Kyle's hubris in startingg a freshman QB with almost no game experience against the #4 team in the country will be a disaster.

Utah had virtually no chance of beating the Frogs with Cain as their starter.

With Wynn as their starter, the Utes have NO CHANCE.

Which is why TCU is a 20-point favorite against the #16 team.
re: Humanitarian Bowl | 9:42 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
Now that would be funny.

Utah beats TCU, then loses to BYU.

TCU - Las Vegas Bowl
BYU - Poinsettia Bowl
Utah - Humanitarian Bowl

Utah loses to TCU and BYU

TCU - Sugar Bowl
Utah - Las Vegas Bowl
BYU - Poinsettia Bowl

Utah beats TCU and BYU

TCU - Las Vegas Bowl
BYU - Poinsettia Bowl
Utah - Humanitarian Bowl
RE: Twice in 5 Years | 9:44 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
If you remember right the 2004 team played in the Fiesta Bowl on Jan 1, 2005 and the 2008 Team played in the Sugar Bowl on Jan 2, 2009. So therefore
2009 - 2005 = 4.

Also, BYU touting their 1984 NC is like France touting they were powerful under Napoleon. Get over it!
why fans | 9:46 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
I love all your rants and predictions on how we can beat either TCU or even your might coogs. Haven't we all been down this road before??

I know the TCU is going to tough to say the least - they look great this year and on the flip side of that the Utes have look vulnerable at times. The key is that nobody from the U has been talking about going to a BCS game. All year they have been focused on one game at a time. Your mighty coogs could learn a lot from the Utes in that approach.

I have no problem if TCU beats the Utes this year but I do think it will be a better game than the one that took place in LES.

For all the zoobs out there saying we don't have a chance against the coogs this year... I guess you're right in a way - we shouldn't have a chance with a freshman QB against a 3rd year starter senior QB and all - but even with all that, the Utes still have a great chance to beat byu.

Go Utes!!! - faster and better atheletes
Re: Twice | 9:51 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
You may want to check your math...

2009-2005=5 years

The TWO BCS games Utah has played in were held in 2005 and 2009, not 2004 and 2009. So 4 years apart.
Aggie Fan | 9:53 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
One thing we have learned from recent history is that Utah can prepare for and be competitive in big games. The don't look to be as strong this year, but I would definitely not count them out of anything. They have the toughness that BYU lacks, IMO.
Who cares | 9:54 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
All i know is it won't be my cougars again! another year of great expectation only to be kicked off a cliff. At least Utah can say they are a back burner discussion toward the BCS even if it is backburner
Here we go again... | 9:56 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009

whenever Utah and BCS game being mentioned together, our little brothers in Provo get upset.

It's called poor sportmanship!!!
It's called jealousy!!!

I'd be happy if Cougars make it to BCS game sometime...the only issue is they will never make it!
Hahaha!
re: BCS Dreaming | 9:59 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
"--second, the Utes have only a slight chance of beating BYU in Provo; probability 1:10"

What are you talking about? They've changed the name from Lavell Edwards Stadium to "Rice Eccles Stadium South Annex". The Utes own the TDS on their own stadium.

As far as "Bottom Line" it won't be that hard to lose less than the TDS did to TCU!
re: Cougarf@n | 10:03 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
in ewe clothing

"Utah has about a 30% chance against TCU"

1:100 is 1%, and that may be high

"slightly less than 50% chance against BYU"

more like 1:10, 10%, Utah isn't that good this season and BYU will be out for revenge after last season's embarrassment

"20% chance" of Boise State losing

more like 1:50, 2%, Boise State almost never loses conference games

so the real odds of Utah busting the BCS this season are less than 1/2 of 1%

in other words, it'll take several "miracles" for that to happen
Curious... | 10:11 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
Weren't the same things said prior to the Alabama game last year??? You never know...

I think TCU wins, but the U defense is head/shoulders above BYU's...not a shot at Brian Logan. It's more likely that the U goes to a BCS game this year, than BYU playing in one in the coming 3 years. Next year, BYU loses Hall, Pitta, Tonga and George. Riley Nelson starts next year while Heaps watches...so it'll be a few years before the Cougs can talk BCS again.

Best of luck utes...
Re: Ute math @ 9:21 am | 10:13 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
The Utes went to the Fiesta Bowl after the 2004 season, but you have to count that season in your math. They went to the Sugar Bowl four seasons later. This may help:

2004 season - Fiesta Bowl
2005 season - Cracker Jack Bowl
2006 season - Twinkie Bowl
2007 season - Lucky Charms Bowl
2008 season - Sugar Bowl

Now hold on tight for the math part....
That makes twice in five years. Wow! Math at its finest.
#1 > #2 | 10:14 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
and always will be

no matter how the Utes try to spin it

just ask Urban if Utah > Florida last season

#1 > #2
gold > silver
blue ribbon > red ribbon
champion > runner-up
"We are the champions" > the team being rocked
re: Whit's hubris | 10:24 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
Utah's chances with either QB are not great, but unless you have not watched one minute of Utah football this year, you know that their chances have increased with Wynn.

1)Cain led all D1 QB's in fumbles. Careless with the ball, and coughed it up on average hits.

2)Cain could not stretch the field past 10 yards. His game was quick slants and screen passes. This gets blown up when teams stack the line of scrimmage, and would have been even worse against a defense as fast as TCU.

3)With Cain, the WR's did not produce. Guys ran routes half-heartedly because they knew the ball was not coming down the field to them. If you watched Saturday, you saw some great catches by Utah WR because they were in better positions and expected to get the ball thrown their way.

4)A running QB does nothing against TCU. Being able to move in the pocket is more beneficial with their speed.

5)If you've watched Utah at all, you've seen that Wynn is already better at reading defeneses than Cain. That will come in handy this week.
Utah FAN | 10:27 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
Look.......we have the best ATHLETES in the MWC and dispite ALL of the pathetics, negative comments about the UTES, we will WIN the ball game agains the Horn Frogs.

Just like last year, we will break into the BCS and will have a chance of winning a National Championship.

Too bad for the Cougars and the rest of the teams!!!

GO UTES.............We're the best

Southern girl.......




re: Humanitarian Bowl | 10:33 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
You inadvertantly slammed your Cougars with your comment.

If Utah does not end up in the Vegas Bowl, unless TCU stumbles and does not get into the BCS, that means the MWC has worked a deal to get them into a matchup with Boise somewhere. Vegas does not want BYU again, and who can blame them after last years embarrassing lose. And the Humanitarian has the 5th choice of MWC teams, which cannot physically be Utah at this point.

So once again, if Fox's prediction holds true, a MWC team other than BYU will be selected by the MWC to go and face an undefeated Boise team in a bowl game. And another MWC team besides BYU will be in the BCS.

So what does that say about BYU? Can you blame the MWC? They can't beat 6-5 Arizona!
San Diego Ute | 10:34 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
To all you yapping Cewg fans that mock Utah's chances of a BCS bid, one thing is certain; BYU has NO CHANCE of a BCS bid---again.
Another Aggie | 10:40 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
OK, Utes and Cougars... you're both wrong on the math. It's not 2009-2004 = 5 years or 2009-2005 = 4 years. The Utes won BCS bowls in 2005 (2004 season) and 2009 (2008 season). Yes, 2008-2004=4, but it is incorrect to say they went to 2 BCS games in 4 years (or seasons). The seasons were:

1. 2004 season
2. 2005 season
3. 2006 season
4. 2007 season
5. 2008 season

Yes, that's 2 BCS bowls in 5 season! Not too tough to figure out. Now you can return to your silly bantering about who's better - and by the way, my dad can beat up your dad... And go Aggies - basketball season starts tomorrow! Finally something to cheer about!
RE: BCS Dreaming | 10:43 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
Okay....

Your a disgusted byu fan. Its very apparent.

Utah fans aren't looking into the BCS right now. What they are is hoping Utah plays competatively with TCU and maybe has a chance in the end. Probably not, but you never know. Utah does have the athletes to match TCU.

As for a 1:10 chance of beating BYU, you are high on NoDoz. BYU can match up and beat up Wyoming off a bye week, but they don't show any capability to plan for a team that changes their scheme for different opponents. Utah will beat the Y this year and deflate Max Hall a little more.

Heres to Air Force, Utah, and whoever BYU's bowl opponents are to end Max Hall's career on a 3-game skid.
Ignorant mathmaticians | 10:44 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
Uh, hold on my friend. Like typical yewt myopia and failfure to conceive, perceive and comprehend simple formulas:

04 season was ONE season
05 season was the SECOND season
06 season was the THIRD season
07 season was the FOURTH season

Are you still OK with the Math? Haven't lost you yet have I? I know, remedial math is not taught well on the hill. OK, here goes now, hang on, focus:

08 season was the FIFTH season

Twice in FIVE years is not twice in four. And BTW, in case you missed it: BYU played for the National Championship after being ranked #1 for 5 weeks 20 years before Utah played in an ALMOST equivalent game. Ending #2 for one week only is not quite as good as ending up #1 for the last six weeks of the year.

Just in case you wanted to double check what is greater than what.
Utah good chance for upset | 10:49 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
I really think Utah can upset TCU. Utah has a great defense and that alone will keep them close. Utah has the athletes to stay with TCU as seen from last years game so I'm thinking this is going to be a close game. Utah's problem is going to be trying to score on TCU's defense.
@Ute math @10:13 | 11:01 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
Actually, Utah played in two BCS games that were played 4 years and 1 day apart. Clearly, those games belonged to 5 seasons but it is a fact that they were just over 4 years apart.

It depends on how the sentence reads as to whether Utah played in 2 BCS games in 4 YEARS or 5 SEASONS.
re: Curious... | 11:05 a.m. Nov. 12, 2009
If Utah had the same team they had against Alabama, you might have a legitimate point.

Without Johnson, Krueger, Sakoda, et al, this season's Utah team is only a shadow of last season's, and TCU might have the best team in TCU history.

Combine that with Utah starting a freshman QB with almost no experience and TCU's motivation to avenge last season's bitter loss, and Utah is left with two possibilities:

The Ute defense plays well enough to keep TCU's offense in check, and the Utes lose closer than expected, by 10 points.

The Ute offense turns the ball over several times putting the Ute defense in impossible situations to defend, and the Utes lose by 20 or more.

Either way, the Utes have no chance of beating the Frogs.

TCU 45
Utah 14

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