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Utah Utes football: Whittingham silent about BCS bowl implications
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I could be surprised by the Utes agains but I doubt it.
Beat TCU.
And if things fall right, Utah will be invited to Fiesta Bowl.
Whoever wrote this article appears to be scrambling to save his job, or hoping that he doesn't lose it, because this article is WORTHLESS. And for those who would say "then don't read it", I didn't. The headline was enough for me.
there are thousands of different what if senarious out there for the top 25 teams.
I guess it's fun to check out the what if's for our local teams but the reality will probably be something different.
So I don't think this is too outlandish from the author.
If BYU fans can talk about the BCS after the FSU loss, why can't Utah fans with their 1 loss coming at #10 Oregon by 7?
Not going to happen, but not any more unrealistic than BYU fans.
That might be the biggest homer comment ever from a BYU fan!
Comparative scores do not mean much, but geez if Utah can go down to Fort Worth and find a way to beat #4 TCU, BYU fans would be shaking in their boots. Because TCU and Utah have similar athletes, they are a good comparison when talking about playing BYU.
--first, the Utes have NO CHANCE of beating TCU in Fort Worth starting a freshman QB with only 6 quarters of experience against the #4 team in the country; probability 1:100
--second, the Utes have only a slight chance of beating BYU in Provo; probability 1:10
--third, the Utes have no control over Boise State losing, so the Utes have to rely on WAC teams that habitually roll over and play dead every time they come close to beating the Broncos; probability 1:50
Bottom line: The Utes are playing for a moral victory on Saturday and something they can use to talk smack for the next two weeks because "the Utes lost to TCU by less than BYU lost to TCU"
And, of course, they'll also have the excuse that they've carried in their back pocket all season, "this is Utah's rebuilding season so we're not expected to beat TCU and BYU"
Catch a clue, beating TCU does nothing for your BCS bowl aspirations.
Go Bronco Nation!!
2009 - 2004 = 4
Real math
2009 - 2004 = 5
BYU math
1984 > 2004 + 2008
#1 > #4 + #2
Then it would just require a Boise State loss. Idaho and Nevada have a shot, but I'd probably say there's about a 20% chance of that (being generous to Utah).
So I think Utah is looking at about a 3-5% chance of a BCS game. At large might be a possibility, but I highly doubt it. On the balance, a BCS repeat is certainly possible, but not at all likely and certainly not something KW would want his team focusing on at this point. Besides, I think it enters the realm of impossiblity with a loss on Saturday.
2005 Fiesta Bowl (after 2004 season)
2009 Sugar Bowl (after 2008 season)
Now hold on tight for the math part
2008-2004=4!!!
oh and 12-0+13-0 > 13>0,
04+08 > 84,
04 or 08 = 84.
Go Yewts!!!!!!!
Utah had virtually no chance of beating the Frogs with Cain as their starter.
With Wynn as their starter, the Utes have NO CHANCE.
Which is why TCU is a 20-point favorite against the #16 team.
Utah beats TCU, then loses to BYU.
TCU - Las Vegas Bowl
BYU - Poinsettia Bowl
Utah - Humanitarian Bowl
Utah loses to TCU and BYU
TCU - Sugar Bowl
Utah - Las Vegas Bowl
BYU - Poinsettia Bowl
Utah beats TCU and BYU
TCU - Las Vegas Bowl
BYU - Poinsettia Bowl
Utah - Humanitarian Bowl
2009 - 2005 = 4.
Also, BYU touting their 1984 NC is like France touting they were powerful under Napoleon. Get over it!
I know the TCU is going to tough to say the least - they look great this year and on the flip side of that the Utes have look vulnerable at times. The key is that nobody from the U has been talking about going to a BCS game. All year they have been focused on one game at a time. Your mighty coogs could learn a lot from the Utes in that approach.
I have no problem if TCU beats the Utes this year but I do think it will be a better game than the one that took place in LES.
For all the zoobs out there saying we don't have a chance against the coogs this year... I guess you're right in a way - we shouldn't have a chance with a freshman QB against a 3rd year starter senior QB and all - but even with all that, the Utes still have a great chance to beat byu.
Go Utes!!! - faster and better atheletes
2009-2005=5 years
The TWO BCS games Utah has played in were held in 2005 and 2009, not 2004 and 2009. So 4 years apart.
whenever Utah and BCS game being mentioned together, our little brothers in Provo get upset.
It's called poor sportmanship!!!
It's called jealousy!!!
I'd be happy if Cougars make it to BCS game sometime...the only issue is they will never make it!
Hahaha!
What are you talking about? They've changed the name from Lavell Edwards Stadium to "Rice Eccles Stadium South Annex". The Utes own the TDS on their own stadium.
As far as "Bottom Line" it won't be that hard to lose less than the TDS did to TCU!
"Utah has about a 30% chance against TCU"
1:100 is 1%, and that may be high
"slightly less than 50% chance against BYU"
more like 1:10, 10%, Utah isn't that good this season and BYU will be out for revenge after last season's embarrassment
"20% chance" of Boise State losing
more like 1:50, 2%, Boise State almost never loses conference games
so the real odds of Utah busting the BCS this season are less than 1/2 of 1%
in other words, it'll take several "miracles" for that to happen
I think TCU wins, but the U defense is head/shoulders above BYU's...not a shot at Brian Logan. It's more likely that the U goes to a BCS game this year, than BYU playing in one in the coming 3 years. Next year, BYU loses Hall, Pitta, Tonga and George. Riley Nelson starts next year while Heaps watches...so it'll be a few years before the Cougs can talk BCS again.
Best of luck utes...
2004 season - Fiesta Bowl
2005 season - Cracker Jack Bowl
2006 season - Twinkie Bowl
2007 season - Lucky Charms Bowl
2008 season - Sugar Bowl
Now hold on tight for the math part....
That makes twice in five years. Wow! Math at its finest.
no matter how the Utes try to spin it
just ask Urban if Utah > Florida last season
#1 > #2
gold > silver
blue ribbon > red ribbon
champion > runner-up
"We are the champions" > the team being rocked
1)Cain led all D1 QB's in fumbles. Careless with the ball, and coughed it up on average hits.
2)Cain could not stretch the field past 10 yards. His game was quick slants and screen passes. This gets blown up when teams stack the line of scrimmage, and would have been even worse against a defense as fast as TCU.
3)With Cain, the WR's did not produce. Guys ran routes half-heartedly because they knew the ball was not coming down the field to them. If you watched Saturday, you saw some great catches by Utah WR because they were in better positions and expected to get the ball thrown their way.
4)A running QB does nothing against TCU. Being able to move in the pocket is more beneficial with their speed.
5)If you've watched Utah at all, you've seen that Wynn is already better at reading defeneses than Cain. That will come in handy this week.
Just like last year, we will break into the BCS and will have a chance of winning a National Championship.
Too bad for the Cougars and the rest of the teams!!!
GO UTES.............We're the best
Southern girl.......
If Utah does not end up in the Vegas Bowl, unless TCU stumbles and does not get into the BCS, that means the MWC has worked a deal to get them into a matchup with Boise somewhere. Vegas does not want BYU again, and who can blame them after last years embarrassing lose. And the Humanitarian has the 5th choice of MWC teams, which cannot physically be Utah at this point.
So once again, if Fox's prediction holds true, a MWC team other than BYU will be selected by the MWC to go and face an undefeated Boise team in a bowl game. And another MWC team besides BYU will be in the BCS.
So what does that say about BYU? Can you blame the MWC? They can't beat 6-5 Arizona!
1. 2004 season
2. 2005 season
3. 2006 season
4. 2007 season
5. 2008 season
Yes, that's 2 BCS bowls in 5 season! Not too tough to figure out. Now you can return to your silly bantering about who's better - and by the way, my dad can beat up your dad... And go Aggies - basketball season starts tomorrow! Finally something to cheer about!
Your a disgusted byu fan. Its very apparent.
Utah fans aren't looking into the BCS right now. What they are is hoping Utah plays competatively with TCU and maybe has a chance in the end. Probably not, but you never know. Utah does have the athletes to match TCU.
As for a 1:10 chance of beating BYU, you are high on NoDoz. BYU can match up and beat up Wyoming off a bye week, but they don't show any capability to plan for a team that changes their scheme for different opponents. Utah will beat the Y this year and deflate Max Hall a little more.
Heres to Air Force, Utah, and whoever BYU's bowl opponents are to end Max Hall's career on a 3-game skid.
04 season was ONE season
05 season was the SECOND season
06 season was the THIRD season
07 season was the FOURTH season
Are you still OK with the Math? Haven't lost you yet have I? I know, remedial math is not taught well on the hill. OK, here goes now, hang on, focus:
08 season was the FIFTH season
Twice in FIVE years is not twice in four. And BTW, in case you missed it: BYU played for the National Championship after being ranked #1 for 5 weeks 20 years before Utah played in an ALMOST equivalent game. Ending #2 for one week only is not quite as good as ending up #1 for the last six weeks of the year.
Just in case you wanted to double check what is greater than what.
It depends on how the sentence reads as to whether Utah played in 2 BCS games in 4 YEARS or 5 SEASONS.
Without Johnson, Krueger, Sakoda, et al, this season's Utah team is only a shadow of last season's, and TCU might have the best team in TCU history.
Combine that with Utah starting a freshman QB with almost no experience and TCU's motivation to avenge last season's bitter loss, and Utah is left with two possibilities:
The Ute defense plays well enough to keep TCU's offense in check, and the Utes lose closer than expected, by 10 points.
The Ute offense turns the ball over several times putting the Ute defense in impossible situations to defend, and the Utes lose by 20 or more.
Either way, the Utes have no chance of beating the Frogs.
TCU 45
Utah 14
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