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Published: Thursday, Nov. 12 2009 12:36 a.m. MST

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K-Dog

They definitely need to do something about the double dipping that goes on in the Utah school districts. There are Administrators and Principals who retire from one district and hire on in another district and collect one government pension while building another. These folks are making in excess of $150K per year double dipping while young teachers are earning $30K. Its a disgrace. There is a huge story here if the Deseret News would look into it.

Double dipping had to go

My coworker was removed from his job by the State due to budget cuts. The sad thing is that my coworker is a great professional with great qualifications and was doing an amazing job. Some of the workers that were left behind don’t work much or are old enough to be sitting at home because that is what they do every day at work and yes some are double dipping. Political influence, friends of friends , and I scratch my back I will scratch yours mentality are still going on in the state not to say discrimination. This has to stop. How can you justify those salaries for people who are already over the retirement age limit? Besides, I am daily afraid of a couple of my coworkers having a heart attack at work because they are too old. They are unproductive.

Retirement fund strategy

I hope the retirement fund did not get out of the market when it was low, and then stay out. Huge mistake if so. If they stayed in, the $6 billion issue would now be a $3 or even $2 billion issue, which is much more managable.

Stop it

This is ridiculous. Why are we rehiring people into their same positions after they retire.

If someone decides to retire, then move on and let someone else do that job.

Nothing wrong with it

If demand is there then what's the problem? If the state offers early retirement and then wants to rehire an experienced person then let them do it. If they don't then they'll see shortages of labor. There is a reason they're all rehired, so if you don't want to lose them to retirement and then have to rehire govt needs to make changes. Either make it more appealing to not retire or absolutely refuse to rehire a retired person.

wrong because future

they rob other people of thier future. they do rehires at the u of u hospital and it does make me mad when I think of medicare and everything else being gone when I retire. which I most likley won't be able to. now the hospital is going to cut costs by buying chinese made dressing supplies that will make other people in the country lose their job. we need to not be just about ourselves but about everyone and the future.

To "Stop it | 10:47 a.m. "

Stop it | 10:47 a.m.

This has nothing to do with people being rehired into their same positions after they retire. That is already prohibited.

John

The comittee had better take some meaningful action to insure my future benefits while retired (next year)!!! The rehire thing is a huge drain and a major factor in the success of URS !! Stop it...

To Nothing Wrong With It

Shortages of Labor? Are you kidding???

This practice is nothing short of legalized robbery by public sector employees. The taxpayers are constantly getting fleeced by public sector employees that play games with numbers, cut backroom deals, justify the unjustifiable, etc.

It's time to stop this ludicrous practice.

Retiring Too Early

If the positions are needed, will hiring someone else save money? It seems the problem isn't that government workers are allowed to double dip but that they retire much too young. I wish I could retire after 20 years years of service, then start a second career while also collecting a pension.

To nothing wrong with it.

Shortage of labor what a jok. They are rehired because of political influence or friendships. What about all of those young graduate students out there that need jobs, careers, and future. Double dipping is not only bad, unproductive, but immoral. How do you justify someone over 65 making 4 or 5 times what a worker who is doing the real job is making. It is immoral no question.

On the other hand

Early retirement gets teachers out of the classroom that should have gone decades before, who then must compete for another job. Eliminating that option will keep unproductive tenured teachers in the classroom with no way to get them out.

Good teachers will be able to retire in Utah, then leave the state, draw their pension and get paid a much higher wage in another state. Do we really want to lose those who can get hired elsewhere for a higher wage.

There must be a better answer than keeping unproductive people in their seat while exporting our finest to other states. The current situation might need changing, but the solutions might be worse than the malady. We need to keep looking for a solution.

No different

This is no different with the Fed. Gov. I worked for the VA for 15 years, and saw the same thing over and over.

Double Dipping is Good!

We have a principal at our school who is double dipping. What a great asset he has become for our school, and at a beginning administrator's salary. His 30 years of experience benefit all 1,000 students in our school and is making it a better place to learn and grow. We need older individuals to be our leaders because some of the young'uns out there who have made their way through teaching for only four to five years and then go on to be administrators at the early age of 26, actually ruin our schools with their aspirations of grandure--they are terrible educational leaders because they never learned how to teach.

THROW

The legislature should go case by case on this issue. If a suitable replacement cannot be found, what will the agency do, hire someone unqualified?

Of course, there are positions where a suitable replacemnent can be found. A suitable replacement should be hired.

Better yet, if the position, in question, is not a critical position, the position should be terminated.

At the very least, the legislature should be careful to not throw the baby out with the bath water or cut their political nose off to satisfy their base.

Double dipping had to go

Double Dipping is good for the one who is double dipping.

Personally,

I always thought it was great when a teacher was finally earning what she or he was worth.

Waste of tax dollars

I don't want my tax dollars paying for this practice. I will live with hiring a less experienced person. Remember the retiree was once an inexperienced person too.

This is the difference

between the private and public sectors. They are set up differently, and public employees should have the right to be rehired if they have served their 20-30 years. Many start at a young age and stay with the public system--this is why they are able to double-dip. If more people stayed with one company in the private sector and the private sector had better pensions, then you would see more double-dipping there as well.

It really boils down to someone choosing to remain with an agency or within a system to earn a solid, retirement that comes in that person's 40s. You do not get the opp. to double dip if you bounce around jobs. Reward someone for staying and if they do a good job, rehire them as opposed to someone who is not as qualified.

Seinfeld

You dipped the chip, you took a bite, and you dipped again!

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