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Published: Wednesday, Nov. 11 2009 12:00 a.m. MST

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JohhnyLingo62

TO Pagan:
If you own rental property, the two things you should be thinking about are "Property Value" and "Property Damage". If people don't pay, you evict them; If renters cause a continual disturbance to other paying renters, you evict them; if they damage your property, you evict them; if they deal drugs or use the property for other illegal activities, you evict them; etc.
Money is only one small part of renting to anybody as a landlord. References and credit history are also factors that are considered. Same for everybody.

To: Awesome!!

glad to see that you consider this garbage ordinance to be of more importance than all the efforts the church makes to assist the starving and the sick and come to the rescue whenever there is a disaster. yeah, shows what you consider to be moral. just as long as gays can go around having wierd sex then everything is fine. nothing else matters in your eyes huh?

and to: imteresting
i completley agree with you on that one. the answer is simply that they are hypocits and this ordinance was probably some kind of blackmail. the gays are completly intolerant of all those who do not share thier views and have no problem with singling out those that beleive that you can be what you want to be, just don't make me accept it. how would they like it if we passed a law making it illegal to not let a missionary in to teach them and demonstarte thier religion? that is basiclally what they want, and it is what they demostrated they wanted in that perversion they call a kiss-in

re: interesting

This ordinance should have been passed years ago - the only reason it didn't is because "the church" used it's influence to defeat any type of ordinance.

I view this a patronizing more than anything else. Gay people still aren't allowed on Federal Property down town. I think "the church" is merely interested in protecting itself against more bad publicity of which I say you reap what you sew.

TO ALL GAYS

you say let us live our lives, and stay out of our lives. i say, i would be more then happy to stay out of your bedroom. all i ask is that you stay there! stop making your sexual conduct public!

Bill

The Church stated that it was for this legislation as long as it did not infringe upon the doctrine of marriage between man and woman. Further, it stated that religious organizations would be exempt from this legislation. Those of you arguing against the Church as members should remember that when polgamy was stopped, some members left then, the same when the priesthood was given to all worthy male members, many left. Some will leave now because they feel the Church is changing its doctrine when in fact it is not. The Church did the same thing here as Christ did to the women taken in adultry. They didn't forgive the individual nor judge that individual as being wrong, that will be done at a later date. What they did is say that individuals should not discriminate against individuals at all. I agree with that but the Church continues to be able to hold to its core doctrine that marriage is between man and woman. That didn't change. It is not a civil right for a black to hold the priesthood. It is not a civil right for women to hold the priesthood.

Pattern?

Anyone notice a pattern here? The LDS church is in the news. No matter what the topic there are people who have criticism and others who applaud it. Criticizers are most likely people who got chastized by their bishop once for masturbating and have never gotten over it. Its time to ignore the naysayers and start addressing people with legitimate concerns who are willing to listen.

Thomas

Seems that the Church failed to consider the ramifications of this support. Gay couples in an apartment building, for example, attract a lot of other gays to the apartment, all of whom present and represent a way of life that moral people wish to avoid--especially for their young children. A law like this is discrimination against straight, moral families who wish to live in clean, positive environments. The same for workplaces. When my family was young, one of the things we always wanted to make sure of before renting a place was what kind of people the landlord would allow to rent. And we sought family friendly places where tenants lived morally and clean. We did not want to live near partiers or others who disrupted what we feel is correct and tried to teach our family.

An ordinance like this destroys that, and now, Church members in Salt Lake City cannot seek such a haven to live.

I am not a gay hater, and I believe crimes against gays because they are gay should be punished as hate crimes. Nobody should be able to hurt them, but we should be able protect what is ours!

FRANKLINS

THERE ARE TWO AVENUES, DO WE FOLLOW THE LEADERSHIP OF 'GOD' IF YOU THINK THERE IS ONE, OR DO WE FOLLOW THE LEADERSHIP OF THOSE WHO MAKE THEIR OWN RULES OF LEADERSHIP. 'IF' THERE IS A GOD WHO CREATED THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE, IF YOU CAN BELIEVE THERE IS AN ENDLESS SPACE OUT THERE THAT YOU EITHER LIVE IN OR YOU DO NOT. IF YOU DECIDE TO FOLLOW THE OPINIONS OF THOUSANDS WHO THINK THEY KNOW IT ALL, YOU ARE STUMBLING THROUGH THE SHORT LIFE YOU HAVE. I FOLLOW GOD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

@pattern?

I think it is time to ignore the childish comments like yours. who gets to decide what is legitimate you? I think not.

bluto

Robert Johnson

Stop insulting the Black Civil Rights fight with your
own plight.

Nobody is fire-hosing gays, whitepowdering them out of their homes, pushing to the back of the bus, not allowing them to vote etc. etc.

Get off the idea of attaching yourself to a civil rights fight. Your biggest problem in California was not the Mormons but the Black and Catholic community. They are insulted by the Gays riding their coat-tails.

You Gays will not stop until you have infiltrated every aspect of American Society.

You invade the Boy Scouts, Church's, and all "private organizations" in order to create a "false sense of acceptability".

It's dilusional. Just because you force your way, uninvited, into private entities, you think you will become credible.

Homosexual behavor has never been acceptable throughout the history of Man, it is against nature itself.

Until we can see widespread homosexuality in the Animal World or at the very least, partnered up on on Dancing with the Stars, then your partycrashing will go unanswered.

bluto
FAct is it's not just about fairness, you want to force society by legislation to axccept deviant behavor.

The World aint't buying.

Mark

To Bill @ 1:06 p.m.
What you said brother. Right on.

Re: Franklins

Is that the moron variety of God or the Christian God of the Bible.

Erin Eldridge

As a former lesbian and current Mormon who's been in a committed temple marriage for 16 years, I support individual gay rights as well as traditional marriage. The LDS Church has made this same claim since its release of "The Divine Institution of Marriage" last year.

I am amazed at some of the bigoted statements, both from a few who profess to be Latter-day Saints and a few who support gay marriage.

No, most people attracted to the same sex do not choose to be. Yes, they can choose how to act or identify based on those attractions. Those who believe "gay" is an identity should be respected for their freedom to believe such-just as Mormons want to be respected for what we believe. LDS Church leaders have just acknowledged that freedom based on INDIVIDUAL rights, not rights based on a same-sex union. A person may identify as gay without ever being involved in a gay relationship.

BTW, if you don't want to rent to such a person, I hope that means you won't rent to a "straight" single person who may become sexually involved in your basement, either.

Bryon

Short sighted by the LDS Church. I don't know if anyone in the church that supports the flamers. I think it is a wrong and poor decision. I cannot believe a Prophet of God would take this stance.

j.d.

Agency has been part of Church doctrine since the beginning and has never changed. We have always supported agency and fought against anyone who tries to take it away from others. It is also necessary to stand for what's right and good. Belief and sharing that belief is part of agency. We believe what we believe. We teach to allow all others the same privelege. This is a legislature over agency, not moral conduct. When talking about morality the church has made it abundantly clear where we stand. Make logical diferentiations before blindly commenting on whether or not this is good, although, the fact that you can even anonymously comment on an issue such as this is the reason we support agency in the first place. It's the reason we came to America and fought for freedom. It's the same reason we still fight for the ability for other countries to have the same freedoms we enjoy. It's God's will that every man choose. It is not His will that any one man or government take that choice away. If people could learn to compromise on their own, legislation would not be necessary.

S!X

I find it amazing how many cultures blame other religions for their problems. Not everybody's "God" is right, but religion is really a way to control people from making wrong decision out of the fear or going to "Hell." If there is a God do you think he would really reign with fear? A vengeful god is nonexistent and is just a boogey man story to keep the ancient people in line. The real god is humanity as a whole we create our own "heaven" or "hell" and not "god." The ultimate sin is ignorance because it leads to all the other even more heinous crimes. I'm not intolerant of gays, but I would really like to stop hear all the WHINING from everything concerning them.

Anonymous

"Until we can see widespread homosexuality in the Animal World"

Already there. Goggle National Geographic Homosexual Animals.

It might surprise you!

To: Christa Jeanne

"(where some states will teach about homosexuality to kids in kindergarten!). It's not about hating gays, nor has it EVER been."

That is a oft-repeated ridiculous LIE. And as long as you keep telling it, you are spreading the HATE against gays.

to 12:59

I agree completely. I dont go around ensuring people know everything about my life. For some reason the gays insist on that defining them. It's like me saying "The fact that I like pizza" is going to define my entire life and if there's one fact I want people to know about me(and they'd better accept it and support me) is that I like pizza! Everyone better support this fact or I'll throw a tantrum. Great, you're gay. Get over it. We don't care.

Anonymous

This is an embarrassment to the church. I wonder what preempted this. i am waiting for the shoe to drop.

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