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Readers' forum: Shoot down health-care plan

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My Take | 1:52 a.m. Nov. 11, 2009
My fear is the damage to the economy adding trillions of dollars to the taxpayers backs will do to our country. Not to mention the damage to the healthcare industry itself. I join hands with millions of other responsible Americans and ask the Senate to kill this phoney so called health care bill. Has anyone actually read it? You can go to jail if you do not comply with its freedom robbing conditions. You cannot opt out and you cannot refuse!
Micawber | 8:29 a.m. Nov. 11, 2009
So which is it, socialism, communism or a dictatorship? Since you've lived under them all, you should appreciate the differences.
Doug G | 8:42 a.m. Nov. 11, 2009
My fear is that we'll be stuck with the status quo, which is damaging our country.
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Ultra Bob  | 9:47 a.m. Nov. 11, 2009
I most heartily agree that the bill created by the “House” should be shot down and left to die.

Only because I hope that saner minds will create something better for people rather than the insurance corporations.

Health is the number one concern for the general welfare of the people of this nation. It is right and proper for our government to step in and help restore a failed system.

Our Constitution states that our government should “Provide for the common defense and Promote the General Welfare”.

That means to fight against the enemies of illness, disease and trauma that threaten and kill many American citizens.

It also means that our government should try to remove impediments to our search for happiness.

Our Constitution was not created to limit people but to provide for their progress toward a good life.
Anonymous | 10:11 a.m. Nov. 11, 2009
Hey, Doug G., sometimes doing nothing is BETTER than doing something, especially something as awful as the proposed "health care" bill.
Mongo | 11:07 a.m. Nov. 11, 2009
It is incumbent on those of us who have to help those who have not. LDS scripture teach the same thing. Try reading Alma 34;28-29 or Matthew 25:21-46. We need to take care of those whom the insurance conglomerates say are not insurable or those to whom the deny coverage because a treatment is "experimental", even though it has been proven effective. The republicans in congress are in the insurance industry's pocket. Time to get them out and get universal health care in place.
K2 | 1:24 p.m. Nov. 11, 2009
You left out facism, imperilism, etc. Please tell us what the republicans were doing for 8 years in fending off the health care problems that they were being well-paid for to accomplish. It got worse and worse and worse until the end of the stalling, shuffling feet, and ignoring came to an end. Is this "fiasco" as you call it, doomed or do you want more of the those lost 8 years? Our elected representatives were well paid by the insurance conglomerates such that they could call the shots and look what happened. Chuck Grassley would be proud of your ingrained selfishness. Oh, by the way, your fearfulness is a self-proclaimed shield that you wish to hide behind.
Brother Chuck Schroeder | 3:44 p.m. Nov. 11, 2009
First off, one has to have a education, and, a brain cell left in their head, and, I don't think anyone in Congress have either one, to try to "shoot down" healthcare, or, for anything else for that matter.

They won't even "shoot down" Public Education, and get back to Home Schooling, in that failed system, for the past 35 years.

Congress even lets the FED's run wild, when it boild down to thing's like this in the States.

A middle school in North Carolina is selling test scores to students in a bid to raise money.

The News & Observer of Raleigh reported Wednesday that a parent advisory council at Rosewood Middle School in Goldsboro come up with the fundraising plan after last year's chocolate sale flopped.

The school will sell 20 test points to students for $20.


NOW on Healthcare, do tell us what the republicans were doing for 8 years in fending off the health care problems that they were being well-paid for to accomplish. It got worse and worse and worse until the end of the stalling, shuffling feet, and ignoring came to an end. Plus America crashed also.
Why Obamacare will not work! | 4:36 p.m. Nov. 11, 2009
An economics professor at a local college made a statement that he had never failed a single student before, but had once failed an entire class.
That class had insisted that Obama's socialism worked and that no one would be poor and no one would be rich, a great equalizer.The professor then said, "OK, we will have an experiment in this class on Obama's plan". All grades would be averaged and everyone would receive the same grade so no one would fail and no one would receive an A. After the first test, the grades were averaged and everyone got a B. The students who studied hard were upset and the students who studied little were happy. As the second test rolled around, the students who studied little had studied even less and the ones who studied hard decided they wanted a free ride too so they studied little. The second test average was a D! No one was happy. When the 3rd test rolled around, the average was an F. The scores never increased as bickering, blame and name-calling all resulted in hard feelings and no one would study for the benefit of others.
Bro Chuck's Rant n Rave's | 4:42 p.m. Nov. 11, 2009
WHO really TRUSTS Congress?. The Demo's or GOP. NO ONE DOES. The stats and growth prognostications from tout television, New York banksters, our Federal Reserve, U.S. Treasury, and various U.S. Government fiscally incestuous cabal members are replete with liars, exaggerators, and crooked politicians. The U.S. Government and several others are economically dead; they just haven’t admitted it yet.

The United States' financial affairs are an empty burning hulk of disaster.

There is not enough taxing power, stealing power, money and bond-printing power on this globe for these dudes to worm their way out of a major collapse. It may take some time, but its coming for sure. There is no way out except to inflate. And, we know how that one ends. Read about Germany's hyper-inflation of 1921-1922.

We are not yelling fire in this theatre of the absurd but rather giving an untenable situation the cold, blank, fishy-eyed stare of an auditor. Two and two isn’t 20 and never will be. Most everyone is broke and going broker. Even those with no debt and holding supposedly strong assets in government paper and real estate reside in quicksand.
Roland Kayser | 7:14 p.m. Nov. 11, 2009
To Why Obamacare will not work: That's an urban legend, it never happened.
Re: Roland | 8:20 p.m. Nov. 12, 2009
Wrong! Its happening right now in your Country! No one will continue to work hard, invent and invest for free so other people can take it easy, be irresponsible or lazy. America's best days are behind us! Why? No incentive to work; just vote for Democrats!

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