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cool | 9:16 p.m. Nov. 10, 2009
even better . no d-will on my fantasy team wednesday ?
Brewer? | 9:19 p.m. Nov. 10, 2009
Please no. Please no!!!!!!!! Have you seen that guy try to dribble? Every time
he tries to put the ball on the floor I ask myself how a shooting guard in could
survive in the NBA with zero ball-handling skills. We'd be better with Okur
bringing the ball down the court.
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gdog3 | 3:54 a.m. Nov. 11, 2009
I told you so. That's what you get when you play a heavier set point guard
40+ minutes a night, One who handles the rock as often as D will does.
TrueFan | 3:57 a.m. Nov. 11, 2009
I was at the playoff game against Golden State a couple of years ago when Derek
Fisher was flying back from NY from a doctor visit for his little daughter who
has eye cancer. Memo accidently fell on Ronnie Price in the lane and Deron was
in foul trouble and so Andrei ran the point. Probably the most thrilling game I
have ever attended...but who will come flying in to the rescue tonight if need
be? We will see...
Cowboy Joe to true fan | 7:41 a.m. Nov. 11, 2009
Ronnie Price wasn't on the team when the Jazz played the Warriors in 2007.
You are thinking of Dee Brown, Okur fell on him NOT Ronnie Price.
How come all the FANS cut DWILL slack about not playing or playing good, but Boozer is attacked relentlessly.
Trade DWILL to the Hornets FOR CP3. They can also have Korver.
How come all the FANS cut DWILL slack about not playing or playing good, but Boozer is attacked relentlessly.
Trade DWILL to the Hornets FOR CP3. They can also have Korver.
Deth | 7:53 a.m. Nov. 11, 2009
I wish Sloan would let Maynor play more and even make mistakes without yanking
him. You can tell that he is scared to make a mistake when he plays, which is
not the way we need to groom a rookie.
Matthews has gained confidence and is playing better and better. I think there is something to be said for letting a rookie play through mistakes. I hope Sloan realizes that this is as good a time as any for Maynor to get more and more minutes while Price is out and Dwill can't go 48 or even 35.
Matthews has gained confidence and is playing better and better. I think there is something to be said for letting a rookie play through mistakes. I hope Sloan realizes that this is as good a time as any for Maynor to get more and more minutes while Price is out and Dwill can't go 48 or even 35.
re True Fan | 8:21 a.m. Nov. 11, 2009
Did you boo Derek Fisher when he came back the next year?
(Also you mean Dee Brown, not Ronnie Price.)
(Also you mean Dee Brown, not Ronnie Price.)
The Jazz are looking a lot | 8:33 a.m. Nov. 11, 2009
more like a lottery team and the FO can blame themselves. They have a bunch of
role players who have severe deficiencies. Brewer can't shoot, Price was
never a PG (out), Maynor is a rookie who may be okay later but is needed now.
Even when healthy Korver has problems on defense, and CJ is erratic at best.
The Jazz have struggled ever since they lost Fish as back up PG. They tried to replace him on the cheap and it has cost this team dearly. Fish could shoot and play with DWill and replace DWill.
Sloan KNOWS that PG is the most important position in his scheme. He also knows DWill gets injured partly because of the excessive minutes he plays.
The Jazz approach to players is bizarre. Instead of getting the players they need they get projects and try to develop them.
It is an insane approach especially given the salary level.
The problem is not Boozer it is the FO/Sloan and the approach to getting and trading players.
If Millsap/Harp is not going to play then trade one for a decent PG who can shoot. Price can also go. Get shooting wings.
The Jazz have struggled ever since they lost Fish as back up PG. They tried to replace him on the cheap and it has cost this team dearly. Fish could shoot and play with DWill and replace DWill.
Sloan KNOWS that PG is the most important position in his scheme. He also knows DWill gets injured partly because of the excessive minutes he plays.
The Jazz approach to players is bizarre. Instead of getting the players they need they get projects and try to develop them.
It is an insane approach especially given the salary level.
The problem is not Boozer it is the FO/Sloan and the approach to getting and trading players.
If Millsap/Harp is not going to play then trade one for a decent PG who can shoot. Price can also go. Get shooting wings.
Stockton | 8:36 a.m. Nov. 11, 2009
If Stockton were injured with the same injuries as DWill, we wouldn't even
know it. Stockton would play. DWill, I love you man, but man up and play. No
excuses if Rondo burns you. Just Play. Be like Stockton.
EB | 8:39 a.m. Nov. 11, 2009
We have always heard a lot of criticism on here about the Jazz carrying three
point guards. I guess this answers those questions. Maybe three is not enough.
Re Cowboy Joe to true fan | 8:49 a.m. Nov. 11, 2009
Because Williams never said that he wanted out of Utah. I think Jazz fans
understand that SLC does not top the list of places that NBA players want to be,
and we appreciate the loyalty.
Cowboy Joe-What? | 9:23 a.m. Nov. 11, 2009
D-Will is better than Chris Paul, sure CP3 gets more points, but when Deron
doesn't score a lot of points, he gives out career high assists, and d-will
is a better player than boozer, boozer just tries to hard, he needs to stop
crying about not getting traded and play basketball. So do all of the Jazz, they
need to play basketball like a team, play solid defense and offense, CP3
won't fix that, if we wanted CP3 we would have drafted him, no D-Will, he
is the best PG in the NBA, and he is on the jazz so support him
blauch | 9:27 a.m. Nov. 11, 2009
Brewer? You are correct - that is actually Brewer biggest weakness - not his
shooting. Guards have to be able to drive to the rim and Brewer can't do
that.
Cowboy Joe.
Williams is helping the Jazz win and Boozer is not this season. The Jazz for a season has a -13 +/-. Hence the record. When Williams is on the court the Jazz have out scored their opponents by +14 points. In the 54 minutes Williams has been off the court the Jazz have been outscored by -27 points.
Boozer is complete opposite -21 when on the court and + 8 when off the court. It is Boozer defense.
Like last year AK has the strongest +/- differential
Boozer defense is one of the worst in the entire NBA - I am not saying he is not trying, but he is not a good defensive player. For 5 years Jazz have been allowing less points per 100 possession when Boozer is on the bench than when he is on the floor.
Millsap is complete opposite: For 4 years when he is on the court the Jazz are allowing less points per 100 possession than when he is off the court.
Cowboy Joe.
Williams is helping the Jazz win and Boozer is not this season. The Jazz for a season has a -13 +/-. Hence the record. When Williams is on the court the Jazz have out scored their opponents by +14 points. In the 54 minutes Williams has been off the court the Jazz have been outscored by -27 points.
Boozer is complete opposite -21 when on the court and + 8 when off the court. It is Boozer defense.
Like last year AK has the strongest +/- differential
Boozer defense is one of the worst in the entire NBA - I am not saying he is not trying, but he is not a good defensive player. For 5 years Jazz have been allowing less points per 100 possession when Boozer is on the bench than when he is on the floor.
Millsap is complete opposite: For 4 years when he is on the court the Jazz are allowing less points per 100 possession than when he is off the court.
Are we paying luxury tax? | 9:34 a.m. Nov. 11, 2009
Isn't it great that we are paying the luxury tax for this team! Smart
move, Jazz ownership! Pay an excessive amount to return a team that finished
eighth in the Western Conference last year.
Nate Dogg | 9:34 a.m. Nov. 11, 2009
Injuries to Williams and Boozer are a testament to the longevity and toughness
of Stockton and Malone.
Miles | 9:53 a.m. Nov. 11, 2009
Just play Maynor. See what the rookie can do. It is a long season and Deron
should sit this one out. The chances of us winning on the road,even with Deron,
is about 20%. No reason to risk more injury with those odds. Boston
doesn't lose many games at home.
Millsap has disappeared | 10:02 a.m. Nov. 11, 2009
and is worse than Boozer on offense against a zone. Boozer started slow but his
plus/minus the last few games is about even. His offense improved. His defense,
well Carlos was recruited for offense. That is about all you are going to get.
The Jazz need to make changes at PF. Instead they over paid Millsap who can't grow 5 inches.
They need shooting wings. Instead they have specialists with weaknesses that can be attacked.
They have needed a decent back up PG for years. Instead they overpaid Price. Maynor may or may not develop into a good PG. He can't take it to the rim and gets posted up by bigger players (Evans). He is not fast enought to run with Lawson/Brooks.
At the moment he is a generalist with serious weaknesses. However he is also a rookie who will get better. He will not get much bigger,stronger or quicker.
Why can't the Jazz make the changes they KNOW they need to make? Why does it take them years to make moves SA or LA would make during a season.
There is a serious problem in the FO/coaching concerning trades.
The Jazz need to make changes at PF. Instead they over paid Millsap who can't grow 5 inches.
They need shooting wings. Instead they have specialists with weaknesses that can be attacked.
They have needed a decent back up PG for years. Instead they overpaid Price. Maynor may or may not develop into a good PG. He can't take it to the rim and gets posted up by bigger players (Evans). He is not fast enought to run with Lawson/Brooks.
At the moment he is a generalist with serious weaknesses. However he is also a rookie who will get better. He will not get much bigger,stronger or quicker.
Why can't the Jazz make the changes they KNOW they need to make? Why does it take them years to make moves SA or LA would make during a season.
There is a serious problem in the FO/coaching concerning trades.
TrueFan | 10:12 a.m. Nov. 11, 2009
No. I did not boo Derek Fisher. I was unhappy that he left the way he did but
appreciated the leadership he brought when he was here.
RE to Cowboy Joe from TrueFan | 10:18 a.m. Nov. 11, 2009
No, I didn't boo Derek Fisher. I didn't appreciate the fact that he
left but did appreciate the leadership he brought to the team while he was here.
Also, thanks for the reminder about Dee Brown. Once you hit 50 the memory for details goes but the excitement of that game will stay with me for a very long time.
Also, thanks for the reminder about Dee Brown. Once you hit 50 the memory for details goes but the excitement of that game will stay with me for a very long time.
Anonymous | 10:42 a.m. Nov. 11, 2009
Finally, a team the Kings can beat.
i remember | 11:32 a.m. Nov. 11, 2009
when the ball had to go through ak because that was all there was
it was exiting and fun
let him play
it was exiting and fun
let him play
plyxply | 11:33 a.m. Nov. 11, 2009
tonight should be an easy one, no reason to strain themselves and since
they're supposed to lose we should sit out DWill. If we can execute well
and stay close, losing at the end won't be obvious. Remember the Alamo!
mike | 11:37 a.m. Nov. 11, 2009
sell the team
PROBLEM | 11:59 a.m. Nov. 11, 2009
Depending if D-WILL is a 1 or 2, the JAZZ have a problem at the other four
spots.
Good teams find a way to deal with what they have...
Teams going down, look just like the JAZZ.
Good teams find a way to deal with what they have...
Teams going down, look just like the JAZZ.
So..... | 12:04 p.m. Nov. 11, 2009
maybe the Jazz are trying to win the lottery? It all makes sense. Blowing
leads, losing to mediocre teams @ home. Whats the next draft like? Anything
good?
Miles | 12:13 p.m. Nov. 11, 2009
Not to worry, CJ will be back soon, he`s probably the best and only true point
we have
Cowboy Joe to SO | 12:56 p.m. Nov. 11, 2009
This is supposed to be an excellent draft year. With two top picks the Jazz
could go after a wing and a big, but knowing KOC the Jazz will draft for need
instead of the best player, and will get another Kwame Brown and Sam Bowie.
Kev | 1:08 p.m. Nov. 11, 2009
Send a plane over for Dee Brown.
Mathews may be | 1:21 p.m. Nov. 11, 2009
a decent wing by next year. He is cheap, plays defense and can shoot at least
part of the time. He also knows the Sloan system or at least is picking it up
fast and Boozer and DWill seem willing to work with him.
Maynor will probably be a good PG soon but he will always be small and not as fast as Lawson. His defense is a big issue.
Part of the problem is Sloan and his reluctance to use the outside shot. A few days ago he actually mentioned that outside shooting made the inside game easier.
I like efficiency but Sloan has to use the outside more and also get players who are efficient at outside shooting. That will improve the inside efficiency.
The Jazz have lacked outside shooters. Okur and DWill are not the right positions to do most of the outside shooting.
Maynor will probably be a good PG soon but he will always be small and not as fast as Lawson. His defense is a big issue.
Part of the problem is Sloan and his reluctance to use the outside shot. A few days ago he actually mentioned that outside shooting made the inside game easier.
I like efficiency but Sloan has to use the outside more and also get players who are efficient at outside shooting. That will improve the inside efficiency.
The Jazz have lacked outside shooters. Okur and DWill are not the right positions to do most of the outside shooting.
Re: Stockton | 2:47 p.m. Nov. 11, 2009
Give Williams a break, he played with a weakened ankle for all of the end of
last years season. He plays when he is hurt, and he plays hard all the time.
Bill | 4:05 p.m. Nov. 11, 2009
I'm tired of people talking about Derek Fisher. He wasn't THAT good
when he was here with the exception of a few good games in the playoffs and a
couple of big shots. He was shooting in the mid to low 30's on 3's
when he was here. I'm not saying he was bad... but good grief, he's
not the reason were not playing well right now.
Anonymous | 4:41 p.m. Nov. 11, 2009
I hate Derek Fisher. I boo him every opportunity I get. I wish I could play
against him. Granted, he would burn me or hit a three in my eye 99 times out of
a hundred, but that one time I put him on his back would make it all worth it.
He is the only athlete I have ever wished would get hurt.
Yrag Notyalc | 5:04 p.m. Nov. 11, 2009
"Anonymous at 4:41p.m.": Hmmmmmmm coming from you, a Jazz fan and
where the entire organization and its ownership were understanding regarding
Fish's issues with his son's health problems. Unfortunately, you have
placed the game ahead of all else. Reversing the situation and he had you on the
floor with him, I am sure he would play the game as it is intended to be played
- hard, tough and decent. Think about it!!! You are NOT a JAZZ fan. You are a
YOU fan!
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Park DWill in a whirlpool for a day and then let him dry out for 1/2 a day before the game. Maybe the Jazz play zone against the Celts?