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BYU men's basketball: Cougars want more from post
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Louisiana Cougar | 4:14 a.m. Nov. 10, 2009
Can I get this game on the internet?
OHIOBYUFan | 7:14 a.m. Nov. 10, 2009
I watched the win against Trinity Western, and was shocked for the first five
minutes how good they were and how bad BYU was. Sure, the Cougs finally got it
going, but why are they so slow--all the time?? At least in the start of the
game.
And per this article, Chris Miles received the ball twice within five feet of the basket and MISSED two layups. A LAYUP, that guy is 6'11" why doesn't he DUNK the ball. I saw him in games last year where he missed layups. He and Anderson MUST dunk the ball when they are five feet or closer.
And per this article, Chris Miles received the ball twice within five feet of the basket and MISSED two layups. A LAYUP, that guy is 6'11" why doesn't he DUNK the ball. I saw him in games last year where he missed layups. He and Anderson MUST dunk the ball when they are five feet or closer.
cleverlykb | 7:50 a.m. Nov. 10, 2009
I think that one of the key cogs for the Cougars and overlooked by the fans is
Noah Hartsook. His injury last year really set him behind. He will be the
third leading scorer on this team and will be a star in the future. Just my two
cents worth.
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metamoracoug | 9:21 a.m. Nov. 10, 2009
to louisiana coug:
BYUTV will be airing the game live and you can get that on-line
BYUTV will be airing the game live and you can get that on-line
Inaccurate | 9:26 a.m. Nov. 10, 2009
Dave Rose claims that using the post is integral to his offense, but during his
years at the "Y" that has not been the case.
BYU consistently gets highly recruited big men who turn out to be nothing more than rebounders for Dave Rose's chuckers out in 3-ball land.
BYU used to have good big men who were a pivotal part of their game, but since the advent of the Dave Rose era the big men have been relegated to rebounding and guarding the other teams big men.
Yep, that's right rebounding and defense are what Dave Rose uses his big men for.
A telling part of Coach Rose's quote is when he states that big men are integral and likes to get the ball down to the low post, but then counters by saying he likes it when they pass the ball back out to the wings.
Now, C'mon Dave, you're essentially saying the primary role for your big men is to hold onto the ball on the post while your wing players get open so they can pop the ball back out to them.
BYU consistently gets highly recruited big men who turn out to be nothing more than rebounders for Dave Rose's chuckers out in 3-ball land.
BYU used to have good big men who were a pivotal part of their game, but since the advent of the Dave Rose era the big men have been relegated to rebounding and guarding the other teams big men.
Yep, that's right rebounding and defense are what Dave Rose uses his big men for.
A telling part of Coach Rose's quote is when he states that big men are integral and likes to get the ball down to the low post, but then counters by saying he likes it when they pass the ball back out to the wings.
Now, C'mon Dave, you're essentially saying the primary role for your big men is to hold onto the ball on the post while your wing players get open so they can pop the ball back out to them.
Re: Inaccurate | 10:19 a.m. Nov. 10, 2009
Sounds like the words from a disgruntled former Cougar, for sure. Maybe you just
weren't very good, ever think of that?
Texas Cougar Fan | 12:21 p.m. Nov. 10, 2009
Inaccurate is full of it! Trent Plaisted, for 3 years, was the Cougars #1 option
along with Keena Young, another post player, for a couple of those years. Miles
has limited offensive skills so he wasn't a leading option in the offense
last year.
Post & Rose-Era | 12:48 p.m. Nov. 10, 2009
I think BYU's disregard for the post came when BYU brought on it's
first JC coach (Cleveland). Ever since BYU has played 3- and 4-guard line-ups
that rely significantly on the perimeter. I think it's contributed to
BYU's inability to get a win in the NCAA tournament.
Greg | 12:55 p.m. Nov. 10, 2009
I didn't see Keena Young and Trent Plaisted kicking it out to the wings
very often, and don't recall them ever getting in trouble for it.
The difference between KT and Trent and our post last year...they could score.
The difference between KT and Trent and our post last year...they could score.
Magnusson | 1:57 p.m. Nov. 10, 2009
Did Logan make the right decision to play for BYU and ride the pine for two
years?
Re: Inaccurate | 2:32 p.m. Nov. 10, 2009
Not only do we not leverage our post play, WE DO NOT DEVELOP THEM!!! Our bigs
should get better with offensive moves and foot work, yet they don't. Maybe
the staff needs a guy who know how to coach big men before we try to enter the
ball down low....
Bigs | 7:17 p.m. Nov. 10, 2009
DO NOT develop at BYU.
The bigs up in Logan tend to improve significantly from year to year.
They bigs up in SLC tend to improve somewhat year to year regardless of the coaches they've had.
The bigs in Provo during the Rose era have not improved from year to year. When Plaisted left he was a little bigger than when he came, but overall his game was not that much improved.
Granted, players during the Rose era have not demonstrated that much improvement in their individual games.
Rose wins based on X's and O's, not based on player development.
Players on other teams tend to develop their skills/game more than players on BYU's teams during the Rose era.
Just sayin'
The bigs up in Logan tend to improve significantly from year to year.
They bigs up in SLC tend to improve somewhat year to year regardless of the coaches they've had.
The bigs in Provo during the Rose era have not improved from year to year. When Plaisted left he was a little bigger than when he came, but overall his game was not that much improved.
Granted, players during the Rose era have not demonstrated that much improvement in their individual games.
Rose wins based on X's and O's, not based on player development.
Players on other teams tend to develop their skills/game more than players on BYU's teams during the Rose era.
Just sayin'
Good Bigs | 7:28 p.m. Nov. 10, 2009
BYU talks about wanting a good big man, but somehow Utah State got Tai Wesley
from BYU's backyard.
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