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Roland Kayser | 12:07 a.m. Nov. 10, 2009
People will go to jail for not having insurance? Please tell me what your source of information is on that one.
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Ethan | 12:13 a.m. Nov. 10, 2009
You obviously don't understand the bill. Try researching it and you'll see that your conclusions are way off the mark.
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ECR | 4:35 a.m. Nov. 10, 2009
Many thanks to the writer for this reasoned argument. Some writers stoop to the low tactics of hyperbole and panic while this writer will have none of that. And I'm so glad she didn't try to justify her thoughts with evidence or logic. Such a tactic is so bothersome and is just too difficult to keep my attention. Keep up the good work and maybe the day will come when none of us can afford health care. Happy day.
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Patsy | 5:36 a.m. Nov. 10, 2009
But it's OK with you now if people loose their homes or can't feed their children because one of them get sick and doesn't have health insurance?

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Jail? | 7:03 a.m. Nov. 10, 2009
No one is going to jail. You need to turn of the Fox news and the talk radio and actually read what the bail entails.
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Oh please. | 7:18 a.m. Nov. 10, 2009
If there's an "endless black hole" it's our current dysfunctional and ruinously expensive system of health insurance.

I'm thrilled to see the House of Representatives pass the bill they did. Now if only the Senate will act in support of this long-overdue reform.

Health Insurance reform isn't remotely the boogy-man some people are making it out to be.
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Anonymous | 7:51 a.m. Nov. 10, 2009
I empathize with these comments. However, the only solution is a national health system similar to that in Western Europe. If we keep trying to preserve those entities that profit from illness, one way or another we will fail.
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to:Sherrie Amerson | 7:55 a.m. Nov. 10, 2009
Your husband woke you up for that?

And please quote your source for people going to jail and not feeding their children.

The ultra-far-ring-wing-nut-cakes are scared by the college drop out, fear mongering, radio talk show hosts.

Maybe THEY should be the ones going to jail.
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Anonymous | 8:16 a.m. Nov. 10, 2009
If this bill passes the Senate, how many people will not be able to even feed their children?

Answer: Zero



If the parents are in jail, the kids go where?

The parents will not go to jail, and the kids will finally get to go see a Doctor which is what this bill is all about!
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lost in DC | 8:18 a.m. Nov. 10, 2009
Roland Kaiser, I know queen nancy doesn't want the bill available for public scrutiny, but here you go.

H.R. 3962 provides that an individual (or a husband and wife in the case of a joint return) who does not, at any time during the taxable year, maintain acceptable health insurance coverage for himself or herself and each of his or her qualifying children is subject to an additional tax."

"If the government determines that the taxpayer's unpaid tax liability results from willful behavior, the following penalties could apply..."

"Criminal penalties

Prosecution is authorized under the Code for a variety of offenses. Depending on the level of the noncompliance, the following penalties could apply to an individual:

Section 7203 – misdemeanor willful failure to pay is punishable by a fine of up to $25,000 and/or imprisonment of up to one year.

Section 7201 – felony willful evasion is punishable by a fine of up to $250,000 and/or imprisonment of up to five years."

According to the Congressional Budget Office the lowest cost family non-group plan under the Speaker's bill would cost $15,000 in 2016.
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Ernest T. Bass | 8:20 a.m. Nov. 10, 2009
Another confused, deceived republican. Big surprise there.
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RedShirt | 8:21 a.m. Nov. 10, 2009
TO those liberals who are buying into the government takeover of health insurance, I have this to ask.

If one of the problems is that people cannot afford insurance, what will change if they are now forced to buy government insurance or pay fines? In other words, if a person lives paycheck to paycheck, how is increasing taxes going to help that person pay for insurance?
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Hurray! | 9:04 a.m. Nov. 10, 2009

Or, Go to jail and THEN get healthcare,
either was it's a win-win situation!

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Fear Monger | 9:08 a.m. Nov. 10, 2009
Another Bush-style "keep the people afraid" Republican.
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?? Riddler ?? | 9:08 a.m. Nov. 10, 2009
Question:

What can a Criminal get
whether he wants it or - not for free -
and has it all paid for by a Freemen,

that a Freeman can't even buy $$$
or pay for himself
from yet another Criminal?
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Answer: HealthCare
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Robert Oh | 9:16 a.m. Nov. 10, 2009
We should make congress give up their health care until thay pass some kind of health care reform.
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RedShirt | 9:30 a.m. Nov. 10, 2009
To "Anonymous | 7:51 a.m." that is not a good option, and it is not the only option.

If 20% to 50% of the cost of health insurance is due directly to government mandates, getting rid of those will be single most cost effective thing to do.

Next, tort reform, wich would decrease the cost of defensive medicine. Defensive medicine adds about 9% to the cost of health care.

Next, get Medicare/Medicaid to act like an insurance company and pay the same as the private companies. Medicare/Medicaid payment rates make Doctors charge those with insurance more to cover their losses. This would save around $1000/year on insurance premiums.

So, just those three things would reduce a $14000/year policy by $5000 to $9000 per year. At that rate, it US health insurace would be cheaper than Europe for the average family.
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peperlake | 9:33 a.m. Nov. 10, 2009
Fox news is the endless black hole. pull yourselves out conservatives!!!!!
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Is Lost in DC | 9:46 a.m. Nov. 10, 2009
the only one who did his homework?
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Ultra Bob  | 9:55 a.m. Nov. 10, 2009
Sherrie Amerson

Don’t worry, a large asteroid will crash into the earth on December 1, killing all life on the planet earth. Then a large black hole will swallow up our sun and all the planets and that will be the end.

I hope you realize that my predictions are just as valid as yours.
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