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Utah Jazz: Win in New York for first time since 2004
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mike | 8:06 p.m. Nov. 9, 2009
Barely won the game. blew a 17 pt lead. Totally ridiculous why this team
constantly mines themselves a hole to have to dig and claw their way out of.
A win is a win. | 8:11 p.m. Nov. 9, 2009
Hard to excuse another big lead lost against a lousy team, but in the end, a win
is a win.
Wow | 8:14 p.m. Nov. 9, 2009
I think they try to build a big lead and then fall asleep.
Good game.
Signing Millsap was a mistake, this year he is averaging 5 less points and 3.5 less rebounds per game.
Give him the big money and he quits...
Good game.
Signing Millsap was a mistake, this year he is averaging 5 less points and 3.5 less rebounds per game.
Give him the big money and he quits...
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Jerry Sloan deserves | 8:15 p.m. Nov. 9, 2009
some credit for this. He broke several of his biases. The Jazz played 3 ball. He
actually pulled Millsap who was not hot.
Boozer played pretty well. AK was lights out and hit 3s. Okur was pretty good.
Bad things. Another blown lead. The Knicks played zone and stopped the Jazz. The Jazz really do not have good answers for that yet. Another rookie guard had a break out night. The defense was sporadic. Price is hurt. Maynor will have to run the team so DWill can rest.
The coaches need to create some 3 plays to break the zone. Teams can guard Okur as the only 3 threat. It is very hard for DWill to hit 3s as a PG. Until CJ and Korver get back and effective the Jazz have to have a means of breaking a packed zone.
The defense at guard is poor much of the time. The Jazz seem to wear down. They struggle when DWill gets tired.
Thanks Jazz for fighting hard and digging out a win on the road.
Boozer played pretty well. AK was lights out and hit 3s. Okur was pretty good.
Bad things. Another blown lead. The Knicks played zone and stopped the Jazz. The Jazz really do not have good answers for that yet. Another rookie guard had a break out night. The defense was sporadic. Price is hurt. Maynor will have to run the team so DWill can rest.
The coaches need to create some 3 plays to break the zone. Teams can guard Okur as the only 3 threat. It is very hard for DWill to hit 3s as a PG. Until CJ and Korver get back and effective the Jazz have to have a means of breaking a packed zone.
The defense at guard is poor much of the time. The Jazz seem to wear down. They struggle when DWill gets tired.
Thanks Jazz for fighting hard and digging out a win on the road.
the starters | 8:18 p.m. Nov. 9, 2009
are playing fine. what's wrong with the back ups????? they've been
playing awful!!! with all the booz drama millsap has quietly been M.I.A.!!!
Douglas | 8:18 p.m. Nov. 9, 2009
Another season high for an opposing rookie. Well we at least won. Barely. Coach
Sloan is showing he IS doing it his way without the bigs in the paint. LOL
Jerry. Good game A.K.
4th quarter no shows | 8:30 p.m. Nov. 9, 2009
Once again the Jazz prove they are unable to put together a solid 48 minutes of
basketball. They tried to give this one to the lowly Knicks. Doesn't look
good heading to Boston!
Nevada Fan | 8:34 p.m. Nov. 9, 2009
It's official Coach needs a tuna fish sandwich and a road map and someone
to tell him to hit the road!
He played the same line up for most of the game. They are very lucky to win that one. You could tell that the whole team was wore out at the end of the 4th. For the game to be that close is well you fill the rest in.
He played the same line up for most of the game. They are very lucky to win that one. You could tell that the whole team was wore out at the end of the 4th. For the game to be that close is well you fill the rest in.
Sad-Sad-Sad | 8:43 p.m. Nov. 9, 2009
I can't quite put my finger on it yet, because I have been trying to and at
the same time not name out anyone for the atrocious, disfunctional play of this
team. The chemistry just is not there. 84 million and to have this result is
hard to swallow. One thing I do know is that there is very little athletism on
this team, and when players like Brewer and Milsap are having the kinds of
nights they have been having someone else deserves those minutes. Tonight Brewer
played 36 minutes and produced not much defensively or on offense, and Milsap
was just horrible. D-Will had another bad night but where do you go when that
happens. I'm very sure after tonight that a big makeover is the only thing
to do, like Phoenix has done so many times thru the years. We just have to get a
few players that can defend, run and jump, or it's over this year!
weird | 8:45 p.m. Nov. 9, 2009
how are they continuouosly letting double digit leads vanish if they have all
played together for the past 5 seasons. is it just that they feel so comfortable
with one another that they figure they'll win games just by their good
looks? they keep getting 15-20 pt leads each game only to see that same lead
vanish and then they barely win the game. it doesnt matter who they're
playing it keeps happening over and over again.
jazz man | 8:55 p.m. Nov. 9, 2009
Hey mike, we never trailed that game. Dont know what kind of hole that is, but
no big deal.
A WIN IS A WIN.
This isnt the BCS, where style points and strength of schedule matter.
A WIN IS A WIN.
A WIN IS A WIN.
This isnt the BCS, where style points and strength of schedule matter.
A WIN IS A WIN.
A win is a win?? | 9:05 p.m. Nov. 9, 2009
I don't think this addage applies here. Like Locke
said today, these guys may play hard but the don't
play with any passion. I can't blame Sloan for that
because I have seen his teams play with a reckless
passion before. I think it is more or less a result
of a few guys not wanting to be here or play for
Sloan and that eats at the lockeroom like a cancer.
said today, these guys may play hard but the don't
play with any passion. I can't blame Sloan for that
because I have seen his teams play with a reckless
passion before. I think it is more or less a result
of a few guys not wanting to be here or play for
Sloan and that eats at the lockeroom like a cancer.
Ak Fan | 9:10 p.m. Nov. 9, 2009
Good shooting Go AK
Wings | 9:15 p.m. Nov. 9, 2009
who can shoot. Tonight AK shot well from the wing. That was crucial as NY played
zone and packed the paint. They pressured DWill and Okur to prevent them from
getting good 3s.
The zone is one reason teams come back on the Jazz late. The Jazz defense is another. The starters play a lot of minutes (especially DWill). By the 4th Q they can't match the energy.
Sloan actually coached tonight and kept the hot hands on the floor (thank goodness). He actually called a timely timeout and it made some difference.
Boozer seems to be playing fairly well. His defense is sporadic but he is rebounding and shooting pretty well. Millsap has disappeared.
The guard play needs improvement. The defense late is still a big problem.
Anyway it is a win on the road at NY. To bad they lost to HOU and SAC.
I do not think that Korver and CJ will fix the problems on this team but things will improve with better wing shooting and more options at 2/3.
Even if Boozer is traded, I am not confident that Millsap is the answer. He gets blocked and has problems against zones.
The zone is one reason teams come back on the Jazz late. The Jazz defense is another. The starters play a lot of minutes (especially DWill). By the 4th Q they can't match the energy.
Sloan actually coached tonight and kept the hot hands on the floor (thank goodness). He actually called a timely timeout and it made some difference.
Boozer seems to be playing fairly well. His defense is sporadic but he is rebounding and shooting pretty well. Millsap has disappeared.
The guard play needs improvement. The defense late is still a big problem.
Anyway it is a win on the road at NY. To bad they lost to HOU and SAC.
I do not think that Korver and CJ will fix the problems on this team but things will improve with better wing shooting and more options at 2/3.
Even if Boozer is traded, I am not confident that Millsap is the answer. He gets blocked and has problems against zones.
There are... | 9:16 p.m. Nov. 9, 2009
no style points. A win is a win and they needed it.
todd "mixed feelings" | 9:17 p.m. Nov. 9, 2009
Unbelievable. 21 point lead, 17 after 3 periods. First half good ball
movement, fairly active defense. Things were looking great.
This team tenses "terribly" when the opponent makes a run. The biggest culprit is DWIL slowing the game down giving the defense a chance and unless Boozer can get open pick and roll or get favorable position down low-the team becomes "jump shooters"
Kirilenko who made 5 3's, Brewer, DWIL in particular all started missing, DWIL a few turnovers.
The lead slowly goes. Finally tied at 85.
Tonight Boozer actually saved us, he helped put us ahead by 5, Okur a big shot but Knicks answer
FINALLY SOME KEY STOPS IN FINAL MINUTE
Brewer Great Block
Final possession with Knicks trying to tie or win, Give DWIL credit he made the guard take a very difficult shot and the guard should have passed off
The lead should have never gone away
The bottom line is we won
THE ONLY GOOD THING THAT COULD COME FROM TONIGHT
Mentally, maybe having hung on and not losing and making some plays down stretch will help us in future road games
one thing: appears end of hoping for Fez/Kous-unfortunate.......
This team tenses "terribly" when the opponent makes a run. The biggest culprit is DWIL slowing the game down giving the defense a chance and unless Boozer can get open pick and roll or get favorable position down low-the team becomes "jump shooters"
Kirilenko who made 5 3's, Brewer, DWIL in particular all started missing, DWIL a few turnovers.
The lead slowly goes. Finally tied at 85.
Tonight Boozer actually saved us, he helped put us ahead by 5, Okur a big shot but Knicks answer
FINALLY SOME KEY STOPS IN FINAL MINUTE
Brewer Great Block
Final possession with Knicks trying to tie or win, Give DWIL credit he made the guard take a very difficult shot and the guard should have passed off
The lead should have never gone away
The bottom line is we won
THE ONLY GOOD THING THAT COULD COME FROM TONIGHT
Mentally, maybe having hung on and not losing and making some plays down stretch will help us in future road games
one thing: appears end of hoping for Fez/Kous-unfortunate.......
Observations | 9:27 p.m. Nov. 9, 2009
The bad defense starts with the guards. How many rookie PGs have lit up the
Jazz? DWill is playing to many minutes and to many minutes at PG. He just does
not have the energy he needs in the last 8 minutes.
The Jazz go as the PG goes.
Against a zone DWill needs to play 2 so he can get decent 3 looks. Maynor is not ready and Price has hurt his toe (and is pretty erratic anyway). Can AK play point forward to take pressure off of DWill?
Mathews needs set 3 plays. Yes I know he is a rookie but he is all we have to bust a zone. Okur can't bust a zone. Neither can DWill from the PG position.
The coaches have to design plays to bust the "pack the paint" defense that most teams play against the Jazz now.
This is on the coaches to design a game plan to win given the players they have. Sloan's bias against the 3 (and players who can shoot the 3)is not biting the Jazz big time. He needs to fix it now.
Teams can stop the Sloan offense dead with a paintpack.
The Jazz go as the PG goes.
Against a zone DWill needs to play 2 so he can get decent 3 looks. Maynor is not ready and Price has hurt his toe (and is pretty erratic anyway). Can AK play point forward to take pressure off of DWill?
Mathews needs set 3 plays. Yes I know he is a rookie but he is all we have to bust a zone. Okur can't bust a zone. Neither can DWill from the PG position.
The coaches have to design plays to bust the "pack the paint" defense that most teams play against the Jazz now.
This is on the coaches to design a game plan to win given the players they have. Sloan's bias against the 3 (and players who can shoot the 3)is not biting the Jazz big time. He needs to fix it now.
Teams can stop the Sloan offense dead with a paintpack.
jazz fan | 9:28 p.m. Nov. 9, 2009
WOW people. come on. seriously. a win is a win. it doesnt matter how you get the
win as long as you get the win. Basketball is a game of runs. no matter how bad
the opposing team is, at home they will always try to make a run to get back in
the game. And the knicks did that. BUT what matters is that the jazz stopped
them at the buzzer and got the WIN!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! GO JAZZ!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
To Much To Late | 9:34 p.m. Nov. 9, 2009
If Larry would have forked out this much money when we still had John and Karl
we would have 4 or 5 championship banners hanging in the E.S.A. O'Conner
and Sloan really do have to move on.
anonymous | 9:41 p.m. Nov. 9, 2009
im pretty sick everyone complaining.. yea they're struggling. yea theyre
having break downs on defense. quit bein fair weather fans. most of you are
buggin.
Cowboy Joe | 9:45 p.m. Nov. 9, 2009
What's up with rookie PGs lighing up DWILL, and Millsap is proving he is
way over paid and a one hit wonder.
Boozer played great. Maybe we should trade Millsap and resign Boozer.
Great win, kept the Knicks from winning, now if we could lose the rest on the road for more ping pong balls and two top draft picks instead of a 8th seed and out in the first round of the playoffs.
Boozer played great. Maybe we should trade Millsap and resign Boozer.
Great win, kept the Knicks from winning, now if we could lose the rest on the road for more ping pong balls and two top draft picks instead of a 8th seed and out in the first round of the playoffs.
Mark | 9:55 p.m. Nov. 9, 2009
My word. Sloan will be gone soon. He should have tried to adapt to win. Great
career.
Nevada Fan | 9:59 p.m. Nov. 9, 2009
Win is a win? NY is the worst team in pro ball.They were lucky to win.
build on this? | 10:06 p.m. Nov. 9, 2009
True, no style points. However did this "victory"
cause anybody to think that this is a team that
should be taken seriously in this league? Did it
reinforce anyones confidence in this team?
cause anybody to think that this is a team that
should be taken seriously in this league? Did it
reinforce anyones confidence in this team?
Basketballogy | 10:10 p.m. Nov. 9, 2009
Williams shot 20% (2 of 10) from the field, and was 0 of 5 from the arc and had
7 turnovers.
If Carlos Boozer had those numbers, Boozer bashers would be calling him names and screaming for a trade.
St. Williams does it? Not a word.
Interesting.
Anyway, gotta love those 16 assists though.
The game's story is well told in the scoring per quarter:
Jazz.... 25 23 30 17
Knicks.. 16 15 33 29
Just look at that defensive effort in the first half compared to the second...
And look how the Jazz lost control of the tempo the second half, then struggled to score at game's end.
Then look at the minutes. Except for the minute Maynor played, Sloan only went 8 players deep in the rotation, and gave heavy minutes to the starters.
And the starters ran out of gas.
On the road, against an uptempo team, with Boston and Cleveland coming up, obviously Sloan doesn't trust his bench, and was going to make sure they at least got THIS win on this road trip.
If Carlos Boozer had those numbers, Boozer bashers would be calling him names and screaming for a trade.
St. Williams does it? Not a word.
Interesting.
Anyway, gotta love those 16 assists though.
The game's story is well told in the scoring per quarter:
Jazz.... 25 23 30 17
Knicks.. 16 15 33 29
Just look at that defensive effort in the first half compared to the second...
And look how the Jazz lost control of the tempo the second half, then struggled to score at game's end.
Then look at the minutes. Except for the minute Maynor played, Sloan only went 8 players deep in the rotation, and gave heavy minutes to the starters.
And the starters ran out of gas.
On the road, against an uptempo team, with Boston and Cleveland coming up, obviously Sloan doesn't trust his bench, and was going to make sure they at least got THIS win on this road trip.
Matt | 10:15 p.m. Nov. 9, 2009
Remember when the Jazz used to come back from being down by 17? Okur was amazing
back then :)
06-07 was one of my favorite years. I preferred watching the Jazz turn it on in the 3rd and 4th quarters.
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The guy above me is right, the Jazz can't play against a zone. There offense looks horrible against the 2-3, DWill is left to fight for himself and gets smothered by a double team.
06-07 was one of my favorite years. I preferred watching the Jazz turn it on in the 3rd and 4th quarters.
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The guy above me is right, the Jazz can't play against a zone. There offense looks horrible against the 2-3, DWill is left to fight for himself and gets smothered by a double team.
Ugly | 10:21 p.m. Nov. 9, 2009
This was ugly! Two Ugly Teams playing UGLY!
@Todd | 10:22 p.m. Nov. 9, 2009
You have hit one of the keys which is tempo. The Jazz play best when they have
the right tempo. If DWill has to slow up (due to fatigue or whatever) the Jazz
half court offense grinds to a halt as the other team packs the paint and
disrupts the offense. The result is a TO or a bad shot with no rebound.
The other teams come back because they adjust and the Jazz do not have good answers or adjustments. Some of that is Sloan but much of it is Sloan/KOC player selections over a long period of time.
This team does not have the outside shooters or the defense it needs at guard. How many rookies have lit up the Jazz this year?
Sloan seems to be waking up to the idea that the 3 (if it goes in) opens up the paint for the bigs. However, he does not have enough decent 3 shooters. Okur and DWill are in the wrong positions to break a zone.
DWill has to play too many minutes to be effective for the whole game.
Sloan is doing better but he does not have the right players.
The other teams come back because they adjust and the Jazz do not have good answers or adjustments. Some of that is Sloan but much of it is Sloan/KOC player selections over a long period of time.
This team does not have the outside shooters or the defense it needs at guard. How many rookies have lit up the Jazz this year?
Sloan seems to be waking up to the idea that the 3 (if it goes in) opens up the paint for the bigs. However, he does not have enough decent 3 shooters. Okur and DWill are in the wrong positions to break a zone.
DWill has to play too many minutes to be effective for the whole game.
Sloan is doing better but he does not have the right players.
Yeah boi! | 10:35 p.m. Nov. 9, 2009
Jazz r going to the finals, baby!!
todd to build on this | 11:00 p.m. Nov. 9, 2009
Only if the players get swagger and confidence back they can make the big plays
at the end of the game.
Tonight Brewer and DWIL at least played excellent defense in the last minute
If the guys regain confidence they can win with the pressure on and make the plays, something more positive will come from tonight.
I guess there is no point to discuss Fez and Kous further-because they could not even get a chance tonight.
When CJ and Korver come back, they will sit or play only in garbage time
Tonight Brewer and DWIL at least played excellent defense in the last minute
If the guys regain confidence they can win with the pressure on and make the plays, something more positive will come from tonight.
I guess there is no point to discuss Fez and Kous further-because they could not even get a chance tonight.
When CJ and Korver come back, they will sit or play only in garbage time
todd to matt | 11:03 p.m. Nov. 9, 2009
gee that would not be the coaches fault would it?
How stupid an excuse, like these guys did not see all type of defenses in college, and have seen it this year in the Nba the beloved zone.
And yet they struggle against it after all this time?
Bizarre....
How stupid an excuse, like these guys did not see all type of defenses in college, and have seen it this year in the Nba the beloved zone.
And yet they struggle against it after all this time?
Bizarre....
Jazz Cop | 11:17 p.m. Nov. 9, 2009
The knicks turned the ball over twice in the fourth quarter. Williams turned it
over three times, boozer twice, millsap once...
Go Jazz!
Go Jazz!
J-dizzle | 11:31 p.m. Nov. 9, 2009
I kept saying don't resign Milsap, especially after Portland offered that
ridiculous front-loaded offer. Even then I never imagined he would look this
bad, and especially that he would stop trying. Jazz need to use more length.
Aka the Fez and Koufus. Milsap never was, and never will be the answer. He is
already at his ceiling he can't get any better. Face the facts Jazz fans
he is smaller than half the shooting guards in the league.
I think Sloan was right to not | 11:39 p.m. Nov. 9, 2009
play Fez or Koufos tonight. He went with a smaller line up and Boozer, Okur and
AK were playing well so he stayed with them and gambled on the fatigue. He often
misjudges the fatigue factor. He thinks that since they are young he can run
them into the ground.
He tried Millsap for long enough to understand that Millsap was not going to help and jerked him. I respect Sloan for that. He needs to do that more often with Boozer, Okur (he does try and usually plays well) AK, DWill etc. However, he just does not have the replacements right now.
We are still very weak at PG. Even if Maynor runs the offense well he gets posted on defense. Price is usually a big minus in the plus/minus.
Teams that beat the Jazz figure out how to disrupt the Sloan system. That is a lot easier with CJ and Korver out. The Jazz lack a 2/3 who can shoot and defend. Mathews is nice but he is still a rookie. I am glad Sloan is forced to play him. He is worth keeping and will contribute a lot later.
Trade Harp for a 2?
He tried Millsap for long enough to understand that Millsap was not going to help and jerked him. I respect Sloan for that. He needs to do that more often with Boozer, Okur (he does try and usually plays well) AK, DWill etc. However, he just does not have the replacements right now.
We are still very weak at PG. Even if Maynor runs the offense well he gets posted on defense. Price is usually a big minus in the plus/minus.
Teams that beat the Jazz figure out how to disrupt the Sloan system. That is a lot easier with CJ and Korver out. The Jazz lack a 2/3 who can shoot and defend. Mathews is nice but he is still a rookie. I am glad Sloan is forced to play him. He is worth keeping and will contribute a lot later.
Trade Harp for a 2?
@Todd | 12:03 a.m. Nov. 10, 2009
They know how to attack a 2/3 zone. It is not coaching. They just do not have
the outside shooters to do it. Okur and DWill get guarded for 3s. NY left AK
open and fortunately he hit. Sometimes Mathews can get open.
On defense the Jazz do not have the quickness to guard Brooks, Evans, Toney or Lawson.
The problem is that Sloan/KOC have drafted players who fit Sloan's biases which creat difficult mismatches. When Sloan's system works is disrupted there is not enough talent to free lance a good team.
The mismatches work both ways. The players are designed for Sloan's system but that makes them vulnerable on the defensive end. It is not that they don't try. It is that they do not have the capability to defend players with special talents like speed, athleticism, etc.
Boozer is a perfect example. He was choosen for his offense. His defense is a liability. The Jazz picked him because they choose to get the offense.
Sloan has made a lot of trade offs but there is not much margin for error. The players fail when ask to do things beyond their strengths.
On defense the Jazz do not have the quickness to guard Brooks, Evans, Toney or Lawson.
The problem is that Sloan/KOC have drafted players who fit Sloan's biases which creat difficult mismatches. When Sloan's system works is disrupted there is not enough talent to free lance a good team.
The mismatches work both ways. The players are designed for Sloan's system but that makes them vulnerable on the defensive end. It is not that they don't try. It is that they do not have the capability to defend players with special talents like speed, athleticism, etc.
Boozer is a perfect example. He was choosen for his offense. His defense is a liability. The Jazz picked him because they choose to get the offense.
Sloan has made a lot of trade offs but there is not much margin for error. The players fail when ask to do things beyond their strengths.
todd on korver | 12:23 a.m. Nov. 10, 2009
I am glad there has been a lot of informative, worthy discussion tonight about
us and the inability "on the 3 ball"
2 things: I am for whatever makes the Jazz better.
Maybe DWIl for the time being should cease calling the plays that Sloan used to always call for his points, and let Jerry relieve him of the duties.
Deron can audibilize selectively like a good quarterback.
On Kyle Korver
2 years ago when Kyle came here, we went on fire after his acquisition. They were like 37-11
I am not as critical of Kyle as many others on here are.
He is true "almost a one trick point" but he can take a couple of dribbles and hit the 2 pointer. a You know he will give you "everything "he has" and as incredible passion and energy which can ignite us.
If he can come back and drill those outside shots, we can win as result of more points, more options, and maybe can get by which we know will be a defense never above "adequate"
2 things: I am for whatever makes the Jazz better.
Maybe DWIl for the time being should cease calling the plays that Sloan used to always call for his points, and let Jerry relieve him of the duties.
Deron can audibilize selectively like a good quarterback.
On Kyle Korver
2 years ago when Kyle came here, we went on fire after his acquisition. They were like 37-11
I am not as critical of Kyle as many others on here are.
He is true "almost a one trick point" but he can take a couple of dribbles and hit the 2 pointer. a You know he will give you "everything "he has" and as incredible passion and energy which can ignite us.
If he can come back and drill those outside shots, we can win as result of more points, more options, and maybe can get by which we know will be a defense never above "adequate"
todd from santa ana "news | 12:37 a.m. Nov. 10, 2009
Reports are all out tonight about my good friend (not) "Nellie"
Stephen Jackson:
He wants a trade and Nelson said it has become so bad, they are trying "within days" of making this happen.
Jackson's agent stated "Nellie" has no rapport with the players and same time the players "question" the game plan.
If you watched last night game with Sacramento he was doing his thing busting it everywhere but did not receive equal help from his friends.
I have little faith O COnnor can be creative and will sit on his hands like most of his career,
However, if the Jazz were "ever" in a position to think of a trade this might be the time.
However, it likely would have to involve Kirilenko/ You are dealing with huge salaries for both of these men,
Forget Golden State scoring 146 off poor Minnesota.
They are in shambles and now with Jersey worst teams.
If they can sonehow figure out way to get Bredrins, or Turiaf/Jackson and Maggette, you have parts such as CJ, Korver, possible Brewer/Maynor/Price, AK
I would sell Nelson on AK if to be done
Stephen Jackson:
He wants a trade and Nelson said it has become so bad, they are trying "within days" of making this happen.
Jackson's agent stated "Nellie" has no rapport with the players and same time the players "question" the game plan.
If you watched last night game with Sacramento he was doing his thing busting it everywhere but did not receive equal help from his friends.
I have little faith O COnnor can be creative and will sit on his hands like most of his career,
However, if the Jazz were "ever" in a position to think of a trade this might be the time.
However, it likely would have to involve Kirilenko/ You are dealing with huge salaries for both of these men,
Forget Golden State scoring 146 off poor Minnesota.
They are in shambles and now with Jersey worst teams.
If they can sonehow figure out way to get Bredrins, or Turiaf/Jackson and Maggette, you have parts such as CJ, Korver, possible Brewer/Maynor/Price, AK
I would sell Nelson on AK if to be done
THEeyepatch | 1:07 a.m. Nov. 10, 2009
A two point win that came down to the final seconds. They were playing the
Knicks right? Maybe I saw a repeat of an older game...... nevermind.
gdog3 | 4:39 a.m. Nov. 10, 2009
RE: to Jerry deserves credit; I didn't see the game but I won't give
Jerry credit anyway.
My reason for response though is to concur with you on the Jazz defense wearing down in the 4th quarter this year. I think that is an issue with losing leads. Also, with the team looking sluggish down the stretch, and the injury factor rearing it's ugly head again, maybe, just maybe the Jazz should reconsider their training approach and trainer.
My reason for response though is to concur with you on the Jazz defense wearing down in the 4th quarter this year. I think that is an issue with losing leads. Also, with the team looking sluggish down the stretch, and the injury factor rearing it's ugly head again, maybe, just maybe the Jazz should reconsider their training approach and trainer.
gdog3 | 4:41 a.m. Nov. 10, 2009
As competitive as he is, D Will does look tired playing so many bloody minutes.
Sloan will wear him down playing him (williams 40+ minutes). Deron's ankle
was still bothering him a little going into this season. Easy Jerry, remember
when Grant Hill hurt his ankle and then reinjured it later on. He didn't
play much for 3 1/2 seasons. He was never the player after the ankle issues that
many including myself thought he would be. In the early to mid nineties, Grant
Hill was considered a legit Jordan competitor. He was not hype either, so drop
the Baby Jordan thoughts, those of you to young to remember Grant Hill's
early NBA days. I guess Tar Heel fans might want to rip here to since Grant
dominated the Tar Heels at Duke, Jordan is a Tar Heel, and Tar Heels hate
Dukies.
Back to Williams. Save some juice for him please.
Back to Williams. Save some juice for him please.
DWILLs Back | 7:16 a.m. Nov. 10, 2009
I guess now we have an explanation for Derons bad defense and the loss against
sacramento when he walked it up the floor most of the game which caused us to
blow that game.
Great.
Season just starting and Derons back is toast.
Our backup PG's can in no way adequately replace D-Will.
People better pray he recovers fast or things will get real ugly real quick--like that already has not begun..but it could get even worse,
Great.
Season just starting and Derons back is toast.
Our backup PG's can in no way adequately replace D-Will.
People better pray he recovers fast or things will get real ugly real quick--like that already has not begun..but it could get even worse,
Miles | 7:33 a.m. Nov. 10, 2009
The team needs CJ bad.
Anonymous | 7:43 a.m. Nov. 10, 2009
Gotta get that draft choice....
Miles | 7:44 a.m. Nov. 10, 2009
CJ is a better fit replacing Brewer at the 2 in the long term. I think Matthews
within a year will be a better player than Brewer. I don't see the Jazz
resigning Brewer if they move CJ to the 2 and sign another scorer. Korver and
Harpring will be gone at the end of the year freeing up about $10 million. We
need serious help at the 2 and 3 right now. AK is a man without a home because
he is neither a 2 or a 3. We have Boozer and Millsap at the 4. If you look at
this team it is totally messed up in key positions. Dwill and Boozer are the
only two players playing their positions. Memo is not an inside player on
offense at the 5 nor can he block shots. This team has serious flaws.
TC | 7:51 a.m. Nov. 10, 2009
Why was Deron taking so many shots near the end if he could barely walk? I know
he did pass up the last shot and got it to Brewer, but why Brewer, of all
people? That was poor management on his part at the end, in fact, during the
entire fourth quarter, as he was ineffective because of his back.
And for the last shot, AK would've been a better option than Brewer with the night he was having, and if nothing else he would've driven to the basket and drawn a foul for himself or someone else on a dish inside. In fact, Deron ignored AK the entire fourth quarter. What is he thinking?
And for the last shot, AK would've been a better option than Brewer with the night he was having, and if nothing else he would've driven to the basket and drawn a foul for himself or someone else on a dish inside. In fact, Deron ignored AK the entire fourth quarter. What is he thinking?
Todd from santa ana | 8:34 a.m. Nov. 10, 2009
what about replacing DWIL with that "great impact o connor draft pick up to
now" Mr. Maynor?
Korver has value! | 8:53 a.m. Nov. 10, 2009
If Korver leaves the Jazz it will be to a team that values the 3 ! If Utah
utilized what talent they have there would be no need to trade anyone! Korver
could help the Jazz in a big way if someone knew how to get a few plays going
his way!
Anonymous | 9:04 a.m. Nov. 10, 2009
Todd,
I don't understand why you would trade AK. Stephen Jackson is not a good player. He is a player who a career %42 shooter. We do not want him. The time is coming where teams are going to start focusing about efficiency (AI is done in the league.) Houston is a very efficient team and are winning because of it and when McGrady comes back and they start loosing they will realize that teams are better. Biedrins is a good player but he really is just Millsap. Not great offensively, but does shoot a good fg percentage a worse shot blocker.
AK is not the problem with this team.
I don't understand why you would trade AK. Stephen Jackson is not a good player. He is a player who a career %42 shooter. We do not want him. The time is coming where teams are going to start focusing about efficiency (AI is done in the league.) Houston is a very efficient team and are winning because of it and when McGrady comes back and they start loosing they will realize that teams are better. Biedrins is a good player but he really is just Millsap. Not great offensively, but does shoot a good fg percentage a worse shot blocker.
AK is not the problem with this team.
Cheers | 9:04 a.m. Nov. 10, 2009
I'm glad the Jazz were able to scratch out a win against a team that was
1-6.
Miles | 9:16 a.m. Nov. 10, 2009
@TC: Everyone knows that Deron does not like AK shooting the ball. There is no
way he is giving it to him in the 4th quarter. When is Jerry going to learn to
use the bench? Maynor can not be that bad, nor Fes and Koufus.
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