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Tough road ahead in Senate for health care bill

Atlas | 12:37 p.m. Nov. 8, 2009

Government meddling results in private pain. We need doctors, not democrats.

MO | 12:38 p.m. Nov. 8, 2009

An itemized list showing how much the INSURANCE INDUSTRY has contributed to each Senator would shed a bright light on those who are all about PROTECTING THE PROFITS OF THE INSURANCE INDUSTRY.

If the REPUBLICAN'S are going to be OBSTRUCTIONISTS, let the AMERICAN PEOPLE see what real motivation is driving REPUBLICAN OBSTRUCTIONISTA tactics.

Utah Doc | 1:13 p.m. Nov. 8, 2009

The House bill will be detrimental to health care as it will take the incentive out of practicing medicine. 14 years in school, working 20 hour days and living poor, and now there is a real possibility that I'll be working for the government at government wages. My education cost me 400K... all of which I paid back with interest. No kid with any amount of intelligence and common sense will go into medicine and new innovation will cease. If Canada's socialized medicine is so great, why are we treating thousands of Canadians.

I for one will quit! Maybe I'll go into politics, they seem to be doing very well.

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Duh | 1:42 p.m. Nov. 8, 2009

And everyone was crying about Bush. The Democrats have taken control and they will bankrupt us even more. I thought I was going to retire but I would sure like to know with what money? There goes my Social Security that I was taxed for over 30 years. I guess the idea is that now since everyone gets medical, there is no need to retire, just work us into our graves, right??? I bet the House built in incentatives to cover their butts when they are no longer in their current jobs.

Duh | 1:43 p.m. Nov. 8, 2009

And no for those who might be thinking it, I am not depending on the Social Security for retirement but it was built into it. Take more and live on less, right???

End is near | 2:28 p.m. Nov. 8, 2009

good bye recession hello depression :( oh well I wander how hard it is to move and become a citizen of Japan..

Dear MO | 2:32 p.m. Nov. 8, 2009

Obstructionist. Are you crazy? This will bankrupt the country and cause financial hardship for millions. Are you ready to buy an insurance policy, which has a $5,000-10,000 deductible, you have a $20 copay after the deductible and pay 20% of the costs of your insurance after the $10,000 deductible? You think this will reduce insurance costs then I have a bridge in Brooklyn and shoreline property in Nevada for you.

The Republicans are trying to keep us out of debt and the government out of our back pocket in the long run. You apparently read this bill. Why would any bill have to be 1900 pages long.

Is Congress part of this plan or did Nancy Pelosi forget to put that in the bill. They have their cadillac plan and don't pay very much at all. This is pure hogwash.

This is on the road to socialism. Right now we are in Germany and it is not a bed of roses for the people. Their taxes are hugh. Try %19 sales tax, "monthly" radio and tv airwave tax of 6 -17 Euro for each radio or tv. Wake up and smell the roses.

Dear MO | 2:34 p.m. Nov. 8, 2009

Should have said, You apparently have not read this bill. It sounds as if you are a shill for the democrats with your capitalized letters and name calling.

Americans are confused | 4:07 p.m. Nov. 8, 2009

I don't have a problem with conservatives arguing that the United States shouldn't get involved in public health care because it will cost a lot of money. I disagree, but I consider it a legitimate argument, worth hearing. But when I hear Americans propping up their own privatized system by pointing to what they see as bankrupted systems abroad, I have to draw the line. Tens of thousands of Canadians come here for health care, but according to Canadian doctors' own statistics tens of thousands go to Canada to get health care too. Germany may not be a "bed of roses" for people because of high sales taxes (and income taxes, I might add), but food isn't usually taxed, homelessness is almost non-existant, and health care coverage is nearly universal. I live there too, and Germans are almost universally shocked that Americans don't have a public option. I thought "End is near" says it best when he ponders moving to Japan... except that they have universal, public health care there as well!

Joe Moe | 4:07 p.m. Nov. 8, 2009

"A triumphant Speaker Nancy Pelosi compared the legislation to the passage of Social Security in 1935 and Medicare 30 years later."

Does she know Social Security passed both chambers with about 80% approval? No squeaker that one, for better or for worse.

I couldn't find numbers on Medicare.

MO | 4:07 p.m. Nov. 8, 2009

may not be able to read. he depands on Nancy Polisi to do his thinkiing for him.

A California Bill | 4:09 p.m. Nov. 8, 2009

By mainly Californians who want us all to be and live the like they do, with a bankrupt government.

Pagan | 4:18 p.m. Nov. 8, 2009

'We need doctors, not democrats.'

Try paying for those Doctors with a republican Atlas.

I'm sure they'll tell you to pull yourself up.

As for 'bankrupt the country', half of bankrupcies last year were due to private healthcare.

Half.

That is the biggest example that something is wrong with things the way they are.

Pagan | 4:32 p.m. Nov. 8, 2009

'By mainly Californians who want us all to be and live the like they do, with a bankrupt government.'

So, they have universal healthcare in california?

bluecollar | 5:50 p.m. Nov. 8, 2009

when someone makes the statement: "the government will take over your health care", exactly what do they mean by that?

when a republican (ie chaffetz) says we should "take the time to do it right", how much time do they mean it should take? it's been decades.

would someone please4 answer these questions for me?

Aaron W. | 8:14 p.m. Nov. 8, 2009

I pray the Senate will demonstrate some common sense and reject this horrific bill.

Who Is Right? | 8:19 p.m. Nov. 8, 2009

Princess Pelosi: "This legislation compares with the passage of Social Security in 1935 and Medicare 30 years later."

Wall Street Journal (01 Nov 2009): "We believe it is no stretch to say that Mrs. Pelosi's handiwork ranks with the Smoot-Hawley tariff and FDR's National Industrial Recovery Act as among the worst bills Congress has ever seriously contemplated."

Sounds like a lot of spin to me on the part of the Princess.

True | 9:15 p.m. Nov. 8, 2009

The latest affirmative action election is a painful lesson. Next time let's vote for a competent and experienced representative government. Condalesa Rice has experience. Sarah Palin successfully governed. Mitt Romney has a financially responsible track record. We need a "do-over". Next election, we will want to do better.

There is a better way | 9:30 p.m. Nov. 8, 2009

There is a better way that still shows compassion.Public option insurance more expensive than private insurance? Required to have insurance? Medicare and medicaid slashed? To slowly kill off private insurance instead of reforming is the aim of this bill. It is dishonest to say that things will stay the same if you presently have private insurance.This is a 1,900 page bill that people did not have time to read. That in and of itself is a dishonest shutting-down of open dialogue and opposition.If it were Bush it would be called dictatorial...like or not...here it is.

The house's resolution | 9:58 p.m. Nov. 8, 2009

Last year just prior to the passage of the colossal waste of tax payer money called the Obama bailouts/stimulus package, the house passed a uninimous resloution to not vote on any bill until the bill in its entirety had been made available on the internet for the voting taxpaying public to review. They violated this resolution then nearly days after passing it, and once again with this colosal 1900 plus page bill that few if any of them have read in its entirety.

The house does not even honor its own resolutions Ms Polisi, why should we expect them to honor their constiutents back home.

Dare to keep your congressman and Senator free from the addictive lobbist pay check, corporate contributions to their campainfunds, and from kickbacks from the pork they pass. It is time for a congress that is not addicted to the money that is clearly given to them to influence their votes.

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Alex Brandon, Associated Press

Speaker Nancy Pelosi, center, is joined by (L-R) Majority Whip James Clyburn, and Rep. George Miller, D-Calif. during a press conference at the U.S. Capitol, Saturday in Washington after the passage in the house of the health care reform bill.