being from Nevada and Utah and now in WI I think I can see some extreme problems
on both sides. Utah waters everything and while it is critical of Nevada greed
it makes little effort to get rid of the private acres of grass in peoples
yards, homemade ponds, all kinds of plants that have no business in the Utah
desert sustained by abusing the water resources. Meanwhile LV home owners have
been forced to convert yards to rock gardens, parks are torn up and replaced
with cement, asphalt and rock. Tress have been pulled and orchards cut down and
replaced with low impact mesquite and desert plants. Vegas has a long history of
doing what's best for builders while ignoring what's best for it's people and
the state. Anyone who has lived there very long can tell horror stories of the
many stupid things the city does to favor over building and the addiction to
builder money. There is a reason half of LV is empty and in foreclosure but then
Utah is not doing nearly enough to conserve and wastes water with abandon so
Nevada has a hard time taking Utah concerns seriously.
When Vegas claims the water is for homes, they mean for growth. These homes
don't exist yet. The second biggest employer in Clark county are construction
related jobs. It isn't about water, it's about money.
All I know, is someone is going to get rich over this. Whoever has the most
money is going to win out. It is the sad nature of things in our country now.
Right doesn't always win, it is generally the ones with the deepest pockets.
The bottom line question that no one can possibly answer is; what will be the
side effects of pumping out the water? Until that can be answered the water has
to be left alone. The water autority claims that there is a safety margin, but
it seems to be just empty words since they can't be backed up with facts. If you
look at past experience, areas drying up when water is extracted seems to
indicate danger. It would be wonderful to see Herbert show a backbone by drawing
a line against any further extraction, along with blocking Energy Soultions
plans to turn Utah into the place to put anything toxic to bed. If you have
taken a look at Lake Powell or Lake Mead lately, a whole lot of water isn't
there anymore. Both look like partially drained swimming pools, I'm sure that's
why the SNWA will do almost anything to acquire more water. But they along with
LA have an endless appetite that can never be satisfied with a dwindling supply,
shouldn't we be talking conservation instead? In thise entire piece the author
didn't use the C word one time.
I agree that pumping the aquifers in nothern nevada or anywhere else is insane.
They are not a never ending source. But I am amazed by those who live in Utah
or other states that have green lawns and fountains and they think that it is
okay for them. Utah gets 5.5 times more water and Arizona 14.5 times more water
out of the Colorado than Nevada. Sounds fair to me? Not... we all need to share
in the burden. Sharing the water and desalinations are the better options
powered by solar to run the pumps.
Keeps telling opponents that there are safegaurds in place to protect the
aquifer from over pumping. But how many of you believe that after spending 25
billion dollars to construct this seven foot pipeline that they are actually
going to shut it off? you know they will not until every available drop has been
mined out. and snake valley will be another "Owens Valley". the once lush valley
in california that was reduced to a dust bowl, by Los Angelos stealing it's
How many of you have actually been to the Snake Valley? I have, and have stood
at the top of Wheeler Peak, and I can tell you there is not any extra water
around to pump. Except for a few irrigated green spots, there is little to no
above ground water, no green ribbons of vegetation. I have also been to
southern AZ, and seen the dead cottonwoods that resulted from drilling drying up
the aquifers, which dried up the streams. It's one thing to feed a few hundred
head of cattle, another to try to feed tens of thousands of thirsty lawns. Time
for Lost Wages to learn to scale back their consumption a bit.
Look for a real solution. Taking water from a desert is insane! What happens
when we all go dry? Take the water from a rich water source. Even if it
initally costs more it will be less expensive than doing it in the future when
there is no water at all in Snake Valley.
Hey folks, why does Las Vegas think they can get water for fountains to flush
money from tourists and let Utah go dry up and blow away in the sand?Folks
- look WEST - California is next to the Pacific with plenty water (they don't
bother to tap it) but desalinization plants should be built in California for
California and pipe THAT to Las Vegas and let them pay for it! The southwest
doesn't have extra water -- look to the ocean! Pass it on to California to build
it for LA, and Las Vegas and the rest of the big cities running short - keep
Utah water where it is and needed! :-)
Very interesting Utah and their conservative politics don't want anything to do
with tree hugging environmentalists - UNTIL - they feel threatened. Now the
enviros (a dirty word in Utah) are welcomed partners. I guess the old saw that
"my enemy's enemy is my friend" never proved to be more true.
A better idea pump the water out of DIXE VALLEY the whole valley is in nevada.
Then let's see how the rancher's over there would like it. There is a lot of
water elsewhere in nevada, I have personal knowledge of this as being a retired
Driller. Having drilled over most of the state of nevada. If las vegas get's
their way say goodbye to SNAKE VALLEY!
"the water authority retorts that it has a duty to find water in its state for
its residents"What SNWA means is that it feels it has a duty to find
water for its richest and most powerful residents. Building this
pipeline would take water not only from Utah farmers, but the Nevada residents
in the basin. All while perpetuating the damaging notion that if people build
it, the water will come--even if that means drying out the rest of the West and
denying the livelihoods of people who have relied on that water for more than
half a century to force it there. As citizens of this planet it is
all of our duty to live responsibly and take care of it as best we can. Not
suck it dry for the economic benefit of the latest wave of real estate
SLC needed the mention; ranchers aren't city folks,and it is "The City."
Meanwhile, we will overpump every aquifer we tap if we aren't careful. There is
just so much fresh water available. The old water law, "use it or lose it,"
needs a rewrite" "Be careful how you use it, or we will all lose it." The fact
is, the climate is getting warmer, maybe drier. Less snow, more rain is probably
how it will be. More rain, fast runoff. Maybe we need to conserve carefully and
not add lots more use & users to the system. Maybe we need to make more
conscious decisions, less accidental or old-style thinking decisions about how
to use our water here in the West. Maybe water is the "new gold." Think about
Nevadas gambling mecca is after the water for more fountains and pomp for its
already dying indusry.
It is very sad that these hearty people who have spent their lives living off
this land will probably lose everything if the water is diverted to Las Vegas.
Why does the article need the negative comment about SLC?
Even the courts in Nevada think this is a terrible idea. Why won't Mike Styler
not pull the plan? Why such support from Mike Noel? Follow the money.
This is sad They can't see the distruction of tapping an aquifer. look at
Colorado. They have done it many times for Ranch and farm water. The aquifers
are real they dry up natural things when tapped. If it dries these farmers land
to do so.It will be a loss greater then just thiers. Wake up if Mead can't
supply you don't go for the easy solution to this problem. We need to conserve
water, Not ruin the enviorment and peoples hard earned livings to get Water.
There goes the food and water bill no beef thats all we need. I have driven the
area it will be disaterous.