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Utah Jazz: No need for to hit panic button yet

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Happy Jazzfan | 11:41 p.m. Nov. 5, 2009
This was an excellent win for a few reasons. I loved the defense and how Boozer showed up. I am a huge fan of Wes Mathews and his defense. I also thought that the arena would be a little empty but I'm glad we have some great fans in Utah!!! Good win now lets start a good win streak
Matt | 11:45 p.m. Nov. 5, 2009
Boozer is showing that he is a leader on this team. Since coming back he has said all the right things. I know Jazz fans hate him, but tonight proved that with Boozer playing well the Jazz can beat the best teams in the league. When Boozer struggles they are an average team.

The ESA needs to get behind Boozer. The pick and roll was run beautifully tonight, if we trade Boozer you won't see that anymore.
todd from santa ana | 11:47 p.m. Nov. 5, 2009
I am a firm believer that a town can unite, momentum carry from the success of another professional sports team. Many of us in great spirits because of courageous RSL> They showed "playing as a team can do"

I am elated to say, at least for one night, The Jazz played like this tonight. They have to do this away. That is another chapter in this saga.

Tonight, The SPurs guys in the 1st quarter were standing by the line. Amazing, they did not get a lot of chances, like Finley, Jefferson and Bonner.

Tonight, Boozer made an "effort defensively" We know he "is very capable if he tries"

He scored, made tough shots and looked like the Power Forward we all used to root for.

DWIL was great. Chris Paul? Sorry.

Millsap went back more to his normal productive ways.

Kirilenko was very active with the deflections, steals and not and Ronnie was making as usual highlite drives.

Kudos to Matthews for sparking the Jazz off the bench.

It is nice for once we can at least enjoy this couple of days and let the Town glory for these wins tonight.

We played 48 minutes.

Look what it does
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Kudos and Congrats | 11:49 p.m. Nov. 5, 2009
to Boozer, DWill and Sloan. They will not always play this well but Boozer came thru big and deserved his minutes. His effort on D is also appreciated. DWill had a huge smart game.

Sloan appears to know what needs to be done. However, it is very confusing that it does not get done much of the time. Sloan seemed to coach a good game tonight. He stayed with the hot players, gambled on Mathews who came thru big and the Jazz played 48 mintutes of very good basketball against what is supposed to be the 2nd best team in the West.

The Jazz out rebounded SA, did not get bombed from the outside, did not get beat on the inside and shot a much higher percentage than SA.

The Jeckle and Hyde Jazz are back. I do not expect them to play this well all of the time but at least they did play this one very well.

Tempo may be the key. The pace was faster tonight and that helps the offense and then they get back better on D.

Sloan noted that. Why don't the Jazz run more? Run and Gun teams are a weakness.
todd from santa ana | 11:51 p.m. Nov. 5, 2009
No one wants an empty arena that has any intelligence. To play most nights to our capabilities like tonight, and the players bonded and working hard, will be the best assurance the seats remain filled.

Because the product is doing what it is supposed to.
Anonymous | 11:53 p.m. Nov. 5, 2009
Here is the question. Is Wesly Mathew better than 3rd year guard Brewer as rockie? Are we going to sign big money for Brewer when you can have Wesly for dirt cheap?? One more thought, could Wesly make Jazz roster if Kover and Miles weren't hurt? We are lucky to have Wesly drop on our lap. I think Kover is out after this yerar. Sorry Ladies. But his D is liability. AK is better. Believe or not, Boozer 's D is better. Millsap strugling a bit. Okur needs to step up on D side. Dwill's D was bad but he show 2nd half he can be good. He needs to be good at the bothend of the floor because he is our soul!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
TheWiz | 11:55 p.m. Nov. 5, 2009
Good win. Let's keep doing it again and again...
Miles | 11:57 p.m. Nov. 5, 2009
If you have season tickets which you paid for, you are not going to stay home five games into the season.

Matthews played well. Let's remember how thin we are with Korver, CJ and Harpring out. Not much bench except for Fes and Koufus and Jerry won't let them play against SA. With lack of depth, we will lose every second game of a back-to-back set.

Memo seems to be slower than last year. Millsap is yet to show up. Price hasn't done much either even though there is plenty of playing time available due to the injuries.
Great win Jazz | 11:57 p.m. Nov. 5, 2009
There were mistakes on both sides, but this was an important victory over such a menacing team to this franchise.

Great job Boozer! Welcome back! He deserves praise for this effort, as does DWill. Defense is improving. We will win big if we continue to grow on this scale.

Thanks Jazz for the win. We will never give up on you guys!
What team was that ? | 12:01 a.m. Nov. 6, 2009
Was that the Jazz ? Wow I could hardly recognize that team in white Jerseys. If that was the Jazz, why don't they play like that every night?

Oh! by the way, that bald head player with jersey number 5, was that Boozer? And who says he can't play defense ?

Wow, the Jazz finally got it all together and got it right. But for how long?
jbra80 | 12:11 a.m. Nov. 6, 2009
What a difference a win makes. It's still right after the game, so i'll give it time, but this is the most positive i've seen it around these message boards. Lose and we panic, win and we'll wait and see, but I have a feeling people will go overboard. Go Jazz, nice win!
Anonymous | 12:22 a.m. Nov. 6, 2009
Come on Jazz fan. The arena was not full today against spurs on TNT!!!! We need to support our team!!! By theway what was that explosion noise at 12:20???
I was shocked to see... | 12:46 a.m. Nov. 6, 2009
Such a turnaround. What made the difference. Why do we falter so when the talent is there? Maybe we are maturing...I hope so. Guys, you earned your great pay tonight..do it every night and be the the team we want you to be. Go JAZZ.
todd to jbra | 12:48 a.m. Nov. 6, 2009
Many of us are not smart enough not to rip the guys after every loss Jbra. If the Jazz play a hard close game, do the right things, and someone gets hot or the other team was just better not due to correctable coaching errors or player incompetence, I doubt anyone could criticize.
hopefully | 12:54 a.m. Nov. 6, 2009
hopefully the light bulb finally went off in their heads and it continues, although i do love hearing the BOOS when they play like crap in ESA, nothing better than watching the game on tv and hearing how loud the fans will boo them. hopefully they continue winning and we all have something to cheer about the rest of the season.
Don't get too excited | 1:07 a.m. Nov. 6, 2009
The Jazz aren't out of the wilderness yet. I'm sure they'll have plenty of decent wins at home like this one all season but I won't be a believer in the Jazz again until they can pull off a victory this impressive against someone like the Spurs ON THE ROAD!! A team that is up by fifteen on the road and then loses by nine at the end is hardly a legitimate title contender.
Surprise! | 4:38 a.m. Nov. 6, 2009
Wow! What a turnaround! Just when I had written off the Jazz, they bump off the Spurs? Come on Jazz, don't tease me!

Now let's see if they can show up for average and mediocre opponents too.
Still want Sloan Gone | 6:23 a.m. Nov. 6, 2009
I still want sloan gone. He did tonight what anyone sitting in the stands could have done. He put people out there and said play or else. He is no wizard, he will still pull his egomaniac stunts and coast us at least 10 to 12 wins a season, just enough to keep us out of the playoffs. And then he will blame the players.
Spurs Hater | 6:30 a.m. Nov. 6, 2009
I am curious to hear what the Spurs #1 Fan has to say. Yesterday, he or she seemed quite certain about the outcome of the game. Lets hear your opinion now. And don't get into the Spurs' championship history. We are only talking last night.
Cowboy Joe | 7:48 a.m. Nov. 6, 2009
Boozer played great both ways offense and defense. DWILL finally played like a leader, and Wes Mathews is a good pick up so far.

It seems Mathews has a more complete game than Brewer and Korver, and maybe even Miles. I guess we will see how the season plays out if Mathews gets playing time and can stay consistent when other teams have scouted him.

What's happened to Fes and Koufous? Are they in the dog house?
Go Jazz | 7:54 a.m. Nov. 6, 2009
Well, we the fickle fans of Utah wow I didnt read anyone wanting Coach Sloans head when we win, Oh but when we lose people want Booz gone, D-will sucks and J-Sloan's head on a silver platter. Come on find the balance and enjoy the season, I will throw out a Guarantee right nowm the Jazz will not win the rest of thier games they are going to lose some and when they do dont be fickle and jump off the band wagon, enjoy the ride, have fun, razz the other team not our own. hey I have never been a big fan of Booz but he's on our squad, and he's a h@ll of a player we are lucky to have him. Go ahead and suport him, I know if he didnt care about Utah, the Jazz, or the fans he wouldnt have done what he did last night. Oh and dont give me this crap about its a contract year thats the only reason he played like that. well if it is and he can do that 95% of the time enjoy it while its here.

Go JAZZ, way to play defense
I Only Watched One Quarter | 7:59 a.m. Nov. 6, 2009
This ram it down your throat mentality, that we fans have to accept from the national media is driving me crazy. Just why would they start a double header at 8pm est? Then the next one at approximately 11pm est? That of course is 9pm here, and working people that need to rise and shine at 5 to 6am to go to work shouldn't be asked to stay up to watch or attend the game when they can't get to bed until after midnite. This is just ridiculous, but because of the almighty dollar in all businesses they sell out to the big buck boys. Well I will not be one of the observers either live or on TV! Have fun and it would be interesting to know of the call ins to work that can't make it or those that do go and don't produce during their shift.
48 Minutes | 8:20 a.m. Nov. 6, 2009
Amazing what happens when the team actually plays 48 minutes. That game was just fantastic to watch. The team played defense, rotated on offense and basically stuck it to the spurs. I loved that almost every time Ginobli or Parker came into the lane, they would get knocked to the floor. The Jazz were the aggresors last night and it showed. If only this team could learn to put in that kind of effort night in and night out! And Wesley Matthews! Geez what a stud! That dude knows how to score, and he seems like he could be a lock down defender as well. He plays pretty well right now, and with some coaching and direction he's going to be even better in the future! Kudos to Sloan too for keeping effective players on the floor. Hopefully that old dog learned some new tricks in Dallas.
NO REBOUNDS | 8:27 a.m. Nov. 6, 2009
Kirilenko had 0000 rebounds in 37 minutes! That is almost next to impossible. In an NBA game you are bound to get just 1 in 37 minutes. I thought he bulked up 20 lbs in the off season.

PS--Matthews could be really good but Sloan will ruin him because when Korver & Miles come back he will send him back to the end of the bench. Guaranteed.
This team has | 8:29 a.m. Nov. 6, 2009
the same problems that it has always had. It is now back to being the Jeckle and Hyde Jazz of last year. That is an improvement.

The loss to HOU was a flash point. It was a home loss against a supposed weak team. However, the Jazz have always had trouble with with quick guards, outside shooting and run and gun teams, HOU also plays defense.

The losses to DEN and DAL were irritating because of unrealistic expectations and dashed hopes. Both are good teams, on the road games and DAL was a back to back. The probability of the Jazz winning those last year were not very high. This year they played well for 3 Qs and then collapsed in crunch time.

Both Boozer and Millsap were pretty bad which raised questions. Now Boozer has had one monster game. Hopefully one of them will consistently come thru.

Mathews opened up the wing a bit. It makes a difference.

Sloan deserves some credit even if it is out of desperation. He is playing a rookie. The thing that gets me about Sloan is that he knows what to do but it does not happen on the court often enough.
read the title. | 8:54 a.m. Nov. 6, 2009
no need for to hit panic button. what?

todd since when are you a jazz fan? last time i heard you post you were saying how stubborn sloan is...that was on an rsl article.
The Jazz will keep Mathews | 8:58 a.m. Nov. 6, 2009
and he will replace Harp for now. The FO has time to negotiate price with both Korver and Brewer. They also could trade Korver (but I doubt it) before the deadline.

Sloan played Koufos last year when he had too and Koufos did very well for a 19 year old rookie. Koufos is stuck on the bench this year as Sloan nurses Boozer, Millsap and Okur along. He is using Fez selectively, partly because Fez is playing better and partly because Sloan can't send Fez to D league this year.

Sloan has not lost his Vet bias. He will play vets first if he can. If they don't play well he will play them anyway as he is sure they will work thru the problems.

That loses a lot of games. Whoever can play the best on any given night should play. Sloan has always preferred Vets. It is one reason the team salary is too high. The Jazz do not develop and play cheaper better young players but over pay and over play expensive Vets.
jbra80 | 9:15 a.m. Nov. 6, 2009
'Many of us are not smart enough not to rip the guys after every loss Jbra'

Not sure it takes smarts to rip players after a loss, matter of fact it's easy to pick a team apart after a loss. I just find it funny everyone wants to jump off a bridge (or push Sloan) when the Jazz lose. Whether they lose ugly or not, they will get ripped. You've already got statements like 'He did tonight what anyone sitting in the stands could have done', and thats after a win. Sure Sloan is nearing the end, but I think he's earned a little more respect over his career than what he gets around here. And by the way, I don't think that makes me a 'Sloanaholic', whatever the hell that is. I prefer to be called a Stocktonite, if we force Sloan out, it better be because we're talking Stockton in to coming here and coaching. Now there is a person worth mentioning, however unlikely it is.
dave | 9:16 a.m. Nov. 6, 2009
I like Matthews driving ability. It is better than Brewers and Korvers and his finishing is better than Miles. His defense appears better than Korvers and Miles. I hope he keeps it up and I hope Sloan doesn't ruin him.
The biggest consistent | 9:30 a.m. Nov. 6, 2009
weaknesses on this team (besides defense) are PF and backup PG.

Boozer and Millsap have had one good game each. The Jazz won both (at home). Even if Boozer and Millsap get their act consistently together they both are still to short and can't handle tall athletic teams. If Koufos ever gets enough playing time to develop he could solve some of that problem.

Maynor will develop over the year and solve the back up PG problem by the playoffs (hope).

Mathews provides depth, defense and outside shooting. When CJ and Korver are back Sloan should have a hot hand to use every night and the Jazz will have one wing who can shoot. That opens the inside offense and helps getting back on defense.

Fez/Koufos is a vast improvement at back up C.

IF Boozer/Millsap can get their collective act together the Jazz might be better than last year.

Defense starts with the PG. If DWill can slow the opponents pace, the Jazz can get back on defense. DEN got defense when Billups changed the tempo of the opposition.

Run and gun teams are a problem. DWill has to slow opposition's pace.
Re:Still want Sloan Gone | 9:40 a.m. Nov. 6, 2009
You wrote:
He is no wizard, he will still pull his egomaniac stunts and coast us at least 10 to 12 wins a season, just enough to keep us out of the playoffs.

Yea the Jazz missed the playoffs once in what 22 years, oh yea the Jazz dont make the playoffs much do they, well I think we go to the playoffs becuase of coach sloan, get your facts straight.......
Voice of Reason | 9:53 a.m. Nov. 6, 2009
Here ye here ye, The thing that makes Boozer an all star is he not only has to get his own game back but he has to carry the majority of the fans at ESA along with him They had to be convinced and the way he put it together on Thursday night was something to behold. Good job Carlos, too bad the people you won over are fickle and shallow fans.

Putting things in perspective, the Jazz pay AK 18 mill and Boozer about 12 mill annually. Ak got zero rebounds last night yet nobody was booing him. Why is that? Boozer outplays him each and every game as well as his multi millionaire replacement Millsap.

Korver makes over half what Boozer does but is not even 1/4 the player. Last season Boozer was out due to an operation as Korver is this season yet, why are we not fielding lynch mobs for Korver? Boozer is in the top 10% of PF's, Korver 3 point shooting ranks in the 56th percentile.

If it truly is about basketball and winning Jazz are very fortunate to have Boozer. Wake up fans as you have something to cheer about.
This is why you don't Sign Brewr | 10:18 a.m. Nov. 6, 2009
If Matthews pans out then you just found a CHEAP alternative to Brewer.

He already drives better than Brewer and he can already hit outside shots better than Brewer. He defends well too..he has no problem fighting through screens.

Sure he is not the athlete that Brewer is or the dunker but at the end of the day what does this team NEED?

PERIMETER scoring to spread the floor and Brewer will never be that.

If Brewer wants to get realistic about his salary expectations then maybe he stays but he was asking for too much of a commitment from the Jazz based on the fact the can't fulfill the primary role of his job description SHOOTING guard.

Sure Matthews will inevitably hit the proverbial rookie wall later this season and he will now be scouted and they will start taking away/defending what he likes to do. It will be interesting to see how he responds. The fact he can do more than one thing well (put the ball on the floor/drive and shoot/MAKE jumpshots) bodes well for his chances of panning out.

Go Matthews.

Jerry stuck with him last night!
Miles | 11:00 a.m. Nov. 6, 2009
@Voice of Reason: I don't think anyone would argue that Boozer is not capable of putting up allstar numbers. The issue is that he "opted in" and then wanted out. That's like going to the movie, watching the movie and then demanding your money back.

Everyone on here knows that AK is a bad contract. People who are reasonable on here know that Korver is way overpaid for what he offers this team. Millsap is a prime example of taking your big payday and producing nothing in return. Selfish athlete.

Personally I think we can't win without Boozer under Jerry's system. If we get rid of Boozer, does anyone really believe that Millsap can step up this year?
reality check | 11:26 a.m. Nov. 6, 2009
the jazz weren't that good the spurs were really bad
todd to jbra | 11:35 a.m. Nov. 6, 2009
Yeah guys it was a grammar error I was going to let it go without it bringing more attention, I apologize Jbra. I meant "many of us are smart enough" by the tone though JBRA you should have been able to tell, especially comparative to my other posts. Then again, do you really think Stockton would ever take this job, of course I would support him, I loved the man
The B.I.V. | 11:58 a.m. Nov. 6, 2009
Okay, the Jazz stopped the bleeding. That's good. But really, this was a HOME win over a San Antonio team on the downslide. Their best days are behind them. It's a good win, but not a great win. And Sloan still needs to get the boot!
Anonymous | 12:03 p.m. Nov. 6, 2009
It wasnt boozes offense that I was most happy with. It was his defense. To boozer: play like that and some team will give you a big fat contract. Keep it up its a win win situation. You get your money, we get our wins and we get better trade value. Great job responding jazz, just a reminder that it is a long season.
todd from santa ana | 12:09 p.m. Nov. 6, 2009
At this point with the logjam of players when CJ and Korver come back, someone is not going to get a chance.

Fez hopefully will get some meaningful minutes from time to time.

Far as Koustos, when I see him I am not overly impressed. Even in garbage time last night, throws off a wild shot. He still seems very raw, I do not know, Fez does too at times, but i think he can really provide us intimidation and agression and can get even better.
re: re: still want sloan gone | 1:56 p.m. Nov. 6, 2009
We keep asking for Sloan's family to quit getting on here and defending him. Who cares if they make the 8 seed in the playoffs. Look at their payroll, they should be there. It is not because of Sloan. He is ancient and needs to go. Everyone and anyone with any basketball sense will tell you this. He can not substitute, he can not coach defense, and he can not coach under stress. Quit supporting a Lame Duck.
Les Mathis...................... | 2:20 p.m. Nov. 6, 2009
............Where do they find guys like Les Mathis? This dude can play some Hoops Now!
jbra80 | 2:29 p.m. Nov. 6, 2009
Yeah Todd I had a feeling it was an error but I figured i'd give you a little flack for it anyways, nothing personal. Oh and no, it probably isn't realistic to get Stockton coaching but what a coach he would make.

On the the B.I.V. comment 'this was a HOME win over a San Antonio team on the downslide. Their best days are behind them', I respectfully disagree. Adding Jefferson, McDyess, and Blair to an already very good team (old but very good) makes them #2 in the west to me and probably top 5 in the league. They'll coast through the season and probably have a fresher Duncan come playoff time. I can see them beating any team in a 7 game series. I'm not saying it was a 'great' win but it was a very important one for the teams confidence level. Now let's keep it rolling.
Everyone was on | 3:28 p.m. Nov. 6, 2009
Boozer because

1. he mouthed off
2. opted in
3. tried to make his own trade
4. totally dorked up the team for 4 games while Sloan insisted on playing him for 40 minutes
5. the fans were pretty sure Boozer could do a lot better than he was

AK on the other hand is over paid but he does try hard almost every night while playing out of position and often coming off of the bench. AK is perceived as a team player who tries. Nobody expects AK to get traded so he is not viewed as a possible solution to the Jazz problems. The Jazz will try to keep AK if he will take a lot less money.

Millsap has underperformed and some people have noted it. Occasionally Brewer and DWill will get some flack.

Hopefully Mathews continues to progress rapidly.

SA is very Jeckle and Hyde this year. They play great one game and stink the next. Hope they stay that way.

Hopefully POR stays lost.

DEN looks very good so far. The Jazz need to get it into gear. Let's see some road wins.
todd from santa ana | 4:06 p.m. Nov. 6, 2009
I feel Portland is different with clubhouse lawyer Andre Miller, I know he played for the UTESunder Majerus and we all admired him at Utah, but i think the chemistry there is different. I watched him, and think he is causing distractions, because I think he is angry he is not starting. This is creating issues with Mcmillian. Portland was good did not need ANdre.

This is good for else. I am very grateful for this. Our competitors are not off to great starts which is why at (2-3) we are no worse than tied for #8 seed early as is.



New Orleans, Houston, Dallas, Portland, San Antonio are all our chief rivals and off to basically .500 over slightly over starts. Except Lakers and Denver no one has started off like a bowl of fire.
bigJazzFan | 5:06 p.m. Nov. 6, 2009
Some fans here want to compliment sloan for making the playoff so often,

when more half the teams go to the playoffs,

I am not so sure making the playoffs is that big of an accomplisment.

any good organization should be able make more often than not.

I do not think you shpuld read to much into this win,

jazz have always been a good home team, and regardles of plad play of late , and poor coaching,

the jazz do have the talent t win a majority of their games,

but all it adds up to is a team that is good for business,

but NEVER for winning championships.

and while it may be true that few teams win championships,

the ones do that seem know how do it repeatedly.

over the last 50 years

detroit has won mutliple championships,
houston,
san antonio,
lakers
celtics
chicago,

all mutliple champioships,

jazz 0.

Some teams know what it takes and WHO it takes,

others like the jazz care more about the bottomline.
@Todd PHO just beat | 8:35 p.m. Nov. 6, 2009
BOS. If you look at their up coming schedule they or DEN will lead the West this month. LA has more losses coming without Gasol. The Jazz will be lucky to get an 8 seed unless they fix some of their problems. Both HOU and PHO look like viable playoff teams with a run and gun approach which works in the reg season.

It is not realistic to expect Mathews to carry the Jazz by fixing the non shooting wing problem. He helps but until Korver gets back or a trade is made the Jazz are going to be erratic.

Both Boozer and Millsap need to play a lot better a lot more often.

It will take a month for SA to gel. They have the talent to be the 2nd-4th team in the West.

Until I see the Jazz win games they need to win on the road I am not going to buy into the idea that this is a great team. If they keep getting beat at home by weak run and gun teams we know it is the same old Jazz.
todd to above | 10:49 p.m. Nov. 6, 2009
I have Phoenix finishing now 8th over the Clops due to Blake injury.

I happened to listen to Phoenix-Boston on Audio league pass

The Suns are impressing me. ALvin Gentry is doing a great job.,In games I have watched and listened, they are still playing uptempo, but they are making adjustments and are better defensively. That is the key

Nash is back playing at MVP levels. Jason Richardson seems to be reborn and has benefited the most it seems with Shaq and Matt Barnes gone. He did not appear comfortable in the offense they ran with Shaq on the floor.

It appears, Dudley and Admondsen are benefitting as well. It now appears defensively Shaq and Barnes were the biggest problems on that squad, hence why likely neither was wanted there any longer.

It appears,
Jazzman | 9:52 a.m. Nov. 7, 2009
The Jazz played good, hopefully a sign of things to come.
Big Frank | 11:16 a.m. Nov. 7, 2009
What up with all these people breaking their legs jumping on and off the Boozer band wagon. Defeating a San Antonio team in transition is no reason to think the Jazz are a playoff team. San Antonio is finished. They are old and undersized. Tim Duncan is not the player he was. Parker is the only true star on that team. The Jazz still have a problem with road wins and 4th quarter leads they squander on a regular basis. They cannot sustain the level of play needed to win against the better teams. Take a look at the rosters of the teams that consistently make the playoffs and draw you own conclusion as to the Jazz chances of making the playoffs this year. Losing to a roster depleated Houston at home is an illustration of my argument. When teams are without the services of their two stars, you must punish them. The Jazz did not. My case is closed. Nevertheless I remain a Jazz supporter and wish them well. I have been with the Jazz since their move from New Orleans to Utah. After the Jazz, my support goes with the Lakers, my growing up in California team.

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