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Protests form while Demos seek votes on health bill

All this nonsense about government healthcare reducing costs is a lie! The real reason some Americans are clamouring for Obamacare is so they can pass their healthcare cost onto the backs of their neighbors! Democrats can't even be honest with themselves!

True that! As a proud Democrat, I can't wait for you - personally - to start paying my medical care! I especially can't wait for my unemployed Republican brother-in-law, who says the exact same things you say, and whose kids I am already paying for, to start paying my medical care.

Yes, as a Democrat I am lying to myself and don't realize that government healthcare will be funded with tax-payer money. I am, however, capable of knowing that without government healthcare, individuals with insurance pay twice to cover those who don't have it - once through taxes and again through increased rates and costs.

And the fact that lives will be saved because people will be able to get the medical care they need means absolutely nothing to me as a godless liberal! I don't love my neighbor because I don't believe in God who said I should - so I don't have to care for them and be concerned with them.

Yep - it must be me kidding myself, because it is obvious how much thought and care you have put into the matter.

"Who is kidding whom?", you remarks are nonsense and driven solely by your partisan fervor, not by any facts. You are the one who should be honest instead of seeking only your own selfish interests. I'm sure you have coverage, but nearly 50 million do not, and millions who will lose it in the near future. And those who do often have such high co-pays and deductibles and are subject to drops in coverage and other insurance company games that they often go into bankruptcy. So just because you are OK does not mean that there is no problem. I've heard the the U.S. is the only place in the first world where we make money off of people's poor health and misery. Maybe that should change.

TRUE STORY - Niki Tsongas(D) MA
CONSTITUENT: My question to you, Congresswoman Tsongas, is that if this is such a great plan, why did you opt out of it when you took the vote [loud applause, standing ovation]?
TSONGAS: People often say why don’t the American people have what those of us in Congress have. [Audience erupts] Let me explain what I have. Let me explain what I have. What I have is a tremendous array — you know, last year when I went to a discussion — what I have is a tremendous array of choices. And I made a choice based on what I was willing to pay for and what made sense in terms of coverage for me and my family. [Audience shouts out: "We want choice! We want choice!]

If Congress can CHOOSE to get on obamacare(which they AREN'T for good reason), why can't we?

“If you’re a family that’s making $250,000 a year or less, you will see no increase in your taxes. Not your income tax, not your payroll tax, not your personal gains tax, not any of your taxes.” But now President Obama is finding that keeping the promises made by candidate Obama is next to impossible. You just can’t borrow a trillion dollars for an economic stimulus, enact a new trillion dollar health care entitlement, and increase discretionary spending by 12% through 2019 (including doubling federal education spending) and then expect to pay for it all by taxing the most productive Americans. Eventually the moment comes when reality catches up to campaigning . That moment is fast approaching.

"Eventually the moment comes when reality catches up to campaigning."

Yep - happens every time. It has been happening for as long as I have been paying attention, which has been several Presidential Election cycles - happens with all the ones in-between, too.

I'm sorry you young 'uns expected something different, but this is politics - always has been, always will be. And what side of the aisle you are on makes no difference.

As the saying goes: there are two inescapable facts of life - death and taxes.

Wrong -- there are not "two inescapable facts of life - death and taxes". I'm willing to try something new. Let's get rid of taxes and see if the extra money in our pockets helps us delay the only one fact of life. Death. I expect "death to taxes" will improve life.

How would one destroy the greatest country on the earth. Would you attack it militarily. Japan tried that. Osama tried it. The country is too powerful industrially with too many resources and freedoms.

No, to destroy the greatest country on the earth you could simply crank up government spending so high that future generations are slaves to its government. You would then raise taxes so high that you ensure this slavery.

You force industry and individuals to comply to bogus climate change theories, which are really just opportunistic scare-tactics to get what you want: a government takeover of industry and destruction of freedom.

You would also take over all major industry (health, education, auto, banks and financial institutions).

You would then print so much money that the money people currently have is worthless due to inflation.

No, you do not try to destroy this country by blowing up buildings and overwhelming its military. You destroy this country by government takeover of all major segments and change its freedoms and dependence upon government slowly.

Oh, you could also let China sell of its dollars.

So is this healthcare debate only about healthcare?

Conspiracy theorist much?

And with no taxes, you would propose paying for the police how? Or maybe you think only those who can afford private police should be protected? And what about judges and court houses to try the accused and jails in which to lock up the guilty?

Road maintenance, sewer maintenance - all the infrastructure stuff - paid for with taxes.

Fire department - taxes.

No taxes is not going to happen.

The question isn't whether or not we should pay taxes, the question is what should taxes be used for? Obamacare is nothing but forcing some American's health care bills onto the backs of their neighbors--totally inapropriate use of taxes!