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Are we still having discussions like this in 2009? Danger in the East? Danger outside the walls of Zion? I can't believe we still have members who are so irrationally fearful and so ignorant of places other than their own neighborhood. This is reflective of a siege mentality more appropriate of the early days of the church when such attitudes were born of legitimate fears from real and recent persecutions. We have more to offer the rest of the country than we have to fear for our safety. And I still can't believe that needs to be pointed out.
If you would have read the article, you would know they are describing 1969, not 2009.
"We have more to offer the rest of the country than we have to fear for our safety."
How arrogant. You must have been cloistered in the Utah bubble all your life.
The reason LDS should follow the Hill's advice and "get out of Utah" is NOT so YOU can help people "out there"!
The reason for LDS to get out of Utah is so YOU can get help escaping the provincialism, narrow mindedness, and ignorance characteristic of those in the Utah bubble!
The truth is, you have nothing to offer the "outside world". They are doing just fine without you. Don't be so arrogant as to think you are "needed" or even wanted!
It's nice being a Mormon outside of Utah. Try it sometime.
Get over yourself.
We just get bashed from both sides.
First the beast from the east fails to read the article and unloads, then "get over..." jumps on him and us and Utah.
Typical failure to read facts and comprehend.
Some one needs to step away from the early martini.
Or maybe the gays are still looking for some way to vent their frustrations. Still 31-0.
YOU are calling someone arrogant?
Obviously the person posting above ain't the sharpest most urban person out there, but you really need to read your posts before you hit send. You also need to mellow out and breath more often. Relax.
You need some sort of anger management counseling.
I've lived a lot of places and Utah is my favorite. Never have I meet more open minded people. The most close minded place I have ever lived was California. Talking about a bubble of ignorance, California is it.
My wife and I grew up in a heavily concentrated Mormon area of eastern Idaho. We have had a mostly positive experience living in a state with a 97% plus non-mormon population. While it has been mostly positive, I do remember the time that my daughter's best friend in the 6th grade told her that she wasn't Christian. Her Baptist minister preached several sermons that year against the Mormons and told his congregation that Mormons were not Christians. She continued to aggressively go after my daughter to the point that within a year or two they were no longer friends. The ironic thing was that they both had similar values, used clean language, were conservative, and were a good match.
Whwn I read about people who struggled through the anti-war protests and their fears, I am always curios to (if they were men)why were they not the subject of that protest? I was in the military during the heart of the vietnam war an on several ocasions was face to face with americans that hated my guts. When I returned from Vietnam in 1969, we had to wear civilain clothes from Travis AFB to SF Airport because, protesters were spitting and throwing blood at the troops(it did not fool them) the weather underground and Bernadet Ayers were up close and personal for my me and my group that day,at least in Vietnam we could defend ourselves.
Non-members and inactive members should be required to register to post in the paper. I am getting sicka nd tired of all the hated from these to camps. Just let us be. We don't nee you or your vile comments.
A good way to NOT INLUENCE FRIENDS AND FAMILY:
After moving to UTAH so your husband can attend school at BYU, go home on a holiday to CALIFORNIA, tell your Catholic, Jewish, and other NON-MORMON friends and family that YOU HAVE BEEN TOLD that the MORMONS HAVE THE ONLY TRUE CHURCH.
And you wonder why there are hurt feelings......
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