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Maine loss is bitter for gays

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FDG | 9:36 p.m. Nov. 4, 2009
Well this defeat is one that they can't blame on the Mormons. I have not heard who they will blame it on. Just maby it's because people believe that marriage is not between guy and guy or girl and girl but beteen a man and woman. But know we will be pounded with their rants and protests again and again. Get over it people don't want it shoved down our throats.
Joe Moe | 11:18 p.m. Nov. 4, 2009
Good point, FDG (9:36). They can't blame it on Mormons.

But I'm not sure they'll try to blame it on anyone in particular. They've seen some bad news this year, and they at some point have to regroup and realize that it's not just one particular interest group they have to overcome. It's traditional Americans at large, and we are many. My prediction: they will have a Martin Luther King, jr., and a Malcolm X. The vision they choose to follow will impact the movement for decades.

And is it time yet to lay to rest any myths about why Obama has not dealt with the gay marriage and gays-in-the-military issues?

It's clearly because it's a political third rail and he doesn't want to touch it, despite his campaign rhetoric. And I'd lay money that he won't touch it, ever. Well, let me take that back: on his last day of office, on a cold January day, he MIGHT issue some executive order and then fade into the night.
When | 8:35 a.m. Nov. 5, 2009
are the GL's going to get the message - that the majority of Americans are not buying their agenda. 31 states who have had same-sex marriage on the ballot have voted it down - not one has passed it. The only states that allow same-sex marriage are those that have been ruled upon by the courts or passed by the legislatures - not the general population.
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The Deuce | 11:35 a.m. Nov. 5, 2009
It seems to me that the tactics or approach the Gay/Lesbian side is taking completely misses the point. They say it is about equal rights but yet their tactics are to try and redefine the word marriage rather than focus on equal rights through civil unions/domestic partnerships that appear to have a larger acceptance base. I don't want to hear the comments that this is not equality. First, I focus on getting the rights to the people and when I see this group of people continue to flounder because they keep missing the target. I propose a new tactic, quit trying to redefine marriage and focus on the civil and legal rights needed. Second, if you want to be with the one you want then who cares whether you call it a civil union or domestic partnership. This defines who the parties are in the relationship. Just as marriage defines who the parties are. Neither type of relationship is better or worse than the other. Everyone wins and has what they want. This needs to be done on a national level so that all rights are in place. What is wrong with this resolution?

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