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Feminism necessary

I supervise and hire several employees for a large chemical firm. I have hired several females who after expensive training and investments, decide to leave and go have children. Don't missunderstand me, I applaud their choice as my own wife did the same thing! I have a few other female emploees who have stayed on and have worked their way up the salary scale just like our male employees. If salaries of women are lower on average than men, it is likely because of longevity differences! Feminism isn't the answer, families are and I for one am indebted to my wife who chose our family over a career! If other women don't, I do not believe they are held back as the author claims on a gender bias!

As long as misinformation, such as that contained in this person's comments, continues to be spread around, there will always be a misguided perception that feminism is relevant.

If some women make less than men in the same job, it is the result of choices that many women make, not some mythical maniacal conspiracy amongst men to pay women less money.

Society does not blame victims of rape and sexual assault for the crimes committed against them. That is a lie. The criminal is always to blame. However, if a man runs around in a dark alley waving money around, and then gets mugged, only fools are surprised.

Women are not underrepresented, brushed to the side, or ignored from business, politics or any other aspects of American society. What an absurdity. When a woman runs for office, she has as much chance of being elected as any man.

Feminism is not the struggle for women’s rights. I support a woman’s rights to fair and equal treatment. I do not support extreme and selfish philosophies like feminism that demean stay-at-home moms, assign one acceptable lifestyle for women, and viscously demonize men.

as long as manipulative statistics are thrown out - such as women making 77cents to the dollar (which does not account for womens making choices that men do not have) then feminiisn is neither necessry or resepcted - it is merely passsie/aggressive and annoying

If feminism is about equal pay in the work place I am all for it.

It seems though that some feminism is about some women not wearing makeup or wearing clothes that make them look good or acting in ways that are not very feminine.

I've never understood this, how does this type of feminism help the life of those women who choose to look not as nice as they could or act in feminine ways?

77 cents to the dollar.
Female clergy not allowed.
Female Bishops not allowed.
Of COURSE we need feminism.

re Salary differences? | 1:00 a.m. Nov. 5, 2009

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A fair way to deal with the fact that women might not stay in a job long enough to justify training is to pay according to how long a person stays in the job. But pay people equally male and female.

Why no matriarchal blessing?

Some men have entered into one traditionally female job (nursing) as it pays better than most male jobs.

I think, though, that in the job market wages are settled by supply and demand. If you don't negotiate well you may not get as much as another person. I'm male but some men are tougher negotiators than I am so end up being paid better, sometimes undeservedly.

It's a rough and ready way to decide wages and salaries but it's better, I think, than a complicated system presided over by a bureaucrat, that cannot prevent, or even creates new, inequities.

An employer may not value a person so much if he thinks that person will be taking time off when children are sick, will not work overtime when needed and so on.

Employers often make decisions like insurance companies - by profiling, gender, age, ethnic etc. Since an employer doesn't really know who is the best person for the job that employer will make generalisations, such as a woman will more likely quit on me, take unsheduled time off. A man with a chequered work history - the same. Less experience - same. Old person will get sick etc.

...Because God is not a feminist.

"Society does not blame victims of rape and sexual assault for the crimes committed against them. That is a lie. The criminal is always to blame. However, if a man runs around in a dark alley waving money around, and then gets mugged, only fools are surprised."

That certainly sounds as if you are blaming the women for being raped. It reads as if, in your opinion, women who are raped are "flaunting" it or "asking for it" and should not be surprised when someone takes them up on it. Do you really think that merely being a woman is the same as waving money around in a dark alley? If a man has so little control of himself that a woman being a woman is grounds to rape her, that is the man's problem - a woman should not have to dress to protect herself from the lowest common denominator.

Not to be petty but, first off, shouldn't that be "Masculist". After all it's feminist not "femininist". I think I would like a "femininist" a woman who likes to be 'feminine' perhaps.

I detract however. I like a lot of what you say. The only point of difference that I feel strongly about is that, as a male, I no longer get excited about a woman painting her entire head, fingernails, toenails etc. It increasingly seems insane or at least primitive. It seems to wrinkle women's skin over time, and it's a bit odd.

A woman is still a woman if she stays the color God intended. I'll be a "chauvinist" in many people's eyes though: I like a woman to dress in a distinctive feminine style, not in imitation of men: shirt, pants, sneakers. I like distinctive female hair styles too, not extremely short or bald.
Same with men - don't like to see men with long silky hair.

For all those who think it is bunk that a woman who does the same job as a man for the same number of years under the same conditions gets paid less then her male counterparts, I have two words:

Lilly Ledbetter.

The Feminists Love Obama's Lies

The sanctimonious shock at Rep. Joe Wilson's (R-SC) calling out "You lie" when Barack Obama said the health care bill will not insure illegal aliens reminds me of the Casablanca police chief saying he was "shocked, shocked" to learn that gambling was taking place in the saloon. Barack Obama's congressional pals had defeated the Republican amendment to require proof of legal residency in order to be covered by the health care bill, and the American people know that illegals are now getting free health care at emergency rooms.

The surprise was that nobody cried "You lie" when Obama said "Under our plan no federal dollars will be used to fund abortions." Anyone who follows this issue knows that all Democratic sponsored bills cover abortion funding, and that the Hyde Amendment will not apply to the health care bill because it only prohibits federal taxpayer funding of abortions financed through Medicaid.

Obama promised Planned Parenthood that "In my mind, reproductive care is essential care." Planned Parenthood got their feminist killing babies act.

Radical Feminism went out & died in 1995, when The Family was brought forth again. Why dwell on it now?.

I love and admire women. However, I am disgusted that today's society seems determined to turn our women into men. If a woman doesn't aspire to all the supposed masculine strengths (i.e. tough, aggressive, etc.), she's considered to be a loser. Women should be women. Nurture your God-given attributes and stop trying to be men. Our society is losing the nurturing spirit that women have played throughout history. I'd like to see fewer women "kickin' butt" and more women nurturing and loving those around them to take some the harsh edge off life. Unfortunatley, that's not the way we're headed. Instead, it's me, me, me. Thus, abortion on demand, anything goes sex, greed and harshness (thus spoke feminism).

most feminism is merely misandry - and it is tedious

Hey Annonymous741,

Are you God's spokesperson? How do you know he wouldn't support feminism. I have a hard time believing God wouldn't support equal pay.

To Anonymous | 7:41 a.m.

You can start your own Church and give all the matriarchal bleesing you want - no one is stopping you!

God cannot be a feminist. He made a serious law against shedding innocent blood, so he can't support abortion. Without that how can He be a feminist?

But Feminism is about destroying the family which is seen as oppressive to women. And it's about emasculating men. Abortion is its sacrament. Forget Feminism.

What we need is for society to follow the gospel of Jesus Christ. In the gospel, we are all equal and retain and celebrate masculine and feminine qualities. No one is harmed and people earn was they work for.

This misogynist knows it isn't GOD that isn't deeming women to the priesthood, it's the Good Ol' Boy's Club.
Disgusting and way self-serving and promoting.