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Readers' forum: Lake like the Dead Sea?

Good idea, Dave | 12:13 a.m. Nov. 5, 2009

The $60 million pumps was a terrible ripoff to Utah taxpayers. I agree, let's sell them.

metaphor | 7:07 a.m. Nov. 5, 2009

Dead Sea.
Dead Red culture.
Both deserve to wither up and disappear.

Anonymous | 7:27 a.m. Nov. 5, 2009

The pumps were a GOP government spending/bailout plan to help private businesses. And you complain about the government bailing out GM?

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RedShirt | 8:10 a.m. Nov. 5, 2009

Better yet, lets put them to use. since they are really big pumps, lets run a pipe-line out to the Pacific Ocean, and pump some of that sea water up here and fill the lake up.

Joe Moe | 8:16 a.m. Nov. 5, 2009

@metaphor 7:07

Talk about a force, contrived, nonsensical metaphor. Get back on your soapbox and try again....

Anonymous | 8:25 a.m. Nov. 5, 2009

Thanks governor Bangerter.

Good News | 8:51 a.m. Nov. 5, 2009

I'm glad it's like the Dead Sea. It means we are closer to the Lord.

@ "Anonymous | 7:27 a.m." | 9:41 a.m. Nov. 5, 2009

Anonymous | 7:27 a.m.

How were the pumps, as YOU put it, "a GOP government spending/bailout plan to help private businesses"?

Exactly which private businesses benefited from this GOP conspiracy?

You need to explain and backup the rash accusations you make daily.

Some facts for you Mr Anonymouse:

1. The vendor the pumps were purchased from was NOT even a Utah company. So how was it a GOP scheme to benefit PRIVATE companies?

2. No private companies benefited from the purchase (at least no Utah companies). At the time of the purchase I-80 was lower than the level of the lake. The only thing keeping I-80 usable was the temporary earthen dikes holding back the water, but you could obviously see when driving I-80 that water on the other side of the dike was WAY higher than the road.

I think it's MUCH more likely that the pump purchase was an attempt to save I-80 (A PUBLIC need, not PRIVATE companies).

Do you have a better theory? Or just rash GOP conspiracy theory accusations?

You don't even live in Utah, so why don't you just shut up about Utah topics?

To Anonymous | 9:57 a.m. Nov. 5, 2009

I don't agree with Anonuymous' GOP conspiracy theory but I have always been against Gov Bangerter's decision to purchase the pumps (for other reasons). I mainly had problems with the expense that seemed like a knee-jerk reaction to a temporary need and how he proposed to pay for it (by increasing the gas tax by 5 cents).

They said the increased gas tax would pay for the pumps in 5 years. But we ALL know what happens with taxes. They go up when there is a crisis... but they NEVER go down when the crisis is over. I predicted that after 5 years the 5 cent gas tax increase would remain... And it did.

I also predicted that the 5 cent gas tax increase we voted into law specifically to fund "Flood abatement projects" would EVENTUALLY not be used for flood projects at all and would just be absorbed... And it was. It no longer funds flood prep projects. But it's still there, still being collected, but being used for whatever highway projects they want.

I think people who constantly vote to increase their taxes are easily bamboozled by politicians.

Make them cut waste first!

@@Anonymous 7:27 | 11:34 a.m. Nov. 5, 2009

You're ignorant. The private companies that (wouldhave) benefited from the ridiculous pumps are the biggest ones in Utah, i.e., US Magnesium, Kennecott, Morton, Western Zirconium, etc. It was a bailout, albeit a stupid one.

Anonymous | 11:59 a.m. Nov. 5, 2009

Dead Sea
Dead Lake
Dead clock-stopping ideology

To "11:34 a.m." | 12:02 p.m. Nov. 5, 2009

11:34 a.m.

And I-80 being closed had NOTHING to do with it... Right?

to:RedShirt | 8:10 a.m. | 12:10 p.m. Nov. 5, 2009

who said:
Better yet, lets put them to use. since they are really big pumps, lets run a pipe-line out to the Pacific Ocean, and pump some of that sea water up here and fill the lake up.
===========

Stick with your politcal bantering Red.

You'd stave to death as a civil engineer.

Anonymous | 12:39 p.m. Nov. 5, 2009

Obama's bailouts are wrong and are socialism.
Mormon Norm Bangerter's bailout is okay.

LOL!

Brother Chuck Schroeder | 1:19 p.m. Nov. 5, 2009

Dave, Great Salt Lake appears to be headed for a similar, smaller outcome of the Dead Sea?, your right, everything in Utah is dead, even the salt flats they race cars on, that's why many are leaving Utah, and moving south to Florida, at least here it's tropical, and not dieing. Right?.

You know I am right to.

LOL | 2:01 p.m. Nov. 5, 2009

Good News, thanks for my laugh of the day, along with Red Shirt.

Anonymous | 2:04 p.m. Nov. 5, 2009

Let it be.

Anonymous | 2:13 p.m. Nov. 5, 2009

This is the place alright.
The place of the living dead and the dying.
Creeps me out just to be here.
I'm outta here!

To Brother Chuck | 2:23 p.m. Nov. 5, 2009

South Florida has the opposite problem because it will be underwater in a few decades. So everyone enjoy it while you can.

Re "Anonymous | 2:13 p.m." | 4:11 p.m. Nov. 5, 2009

Anonymous | 2:13 p.m.

You were never here to begin with!

Remember you told us you live in California.

Your daily insults and attempts to play on people's emotions are getting old. Good riddance.

To nature lovers | 4:15 p.m. Nov. 5, 2009

I love nature too. But you need to realise that whats going on with the Great Salt Lake is natural! It's been going on for eons!

Playing with nature and trying to maintain the lake level at what WE think is right/natural would not be natural. It grows and shrinks seasonally and in longer cycles with a natural trend towards lower levels.

To "Anonymous | 12:39 p.m." | 5:02 p.m. Nov. 5, 2009

Anonymous | 12:39 p.m.

I wonder if you realise how lame your attempts to play politics with the ancient pump purchase (which was NOT popular in Utah) and Obama's spending sound? They aren't related, and everybody but you seems to already understand that.

And especially the attempt to make some sort of Mormon connection... it's falling flat on it's face.

Nobody but you is LOL-ing at your attempt at humor my friend.

@5:02 p.m. | 5:18 p.m. Nov. 5, 2009

I thought it was funny...and right on the money.
hahaha

@ "5:18 p.m." | 1:23 p.m. Nov. 6, 2009

So "5:18 p.m." if it was "right on the money..." what did the pump deal actually have to do with Mormons that made his comment so correct or so funny?

Or is ANY derogatory remark about Mormons (no matter how bogus) LOL worthy to you?

5:02 p.m. | 1:54 p.m. Nov. 6, 2009

I guess I was wrong. Seems "5:18 p.m." thought it was totally factual and the funniest thing ever.

I guess "Anonymous | 12:39 p.m." IS very funny. Maybe you just need to have a certain frame of mind and a special ax to grind to get his humor.

Anonymous | 3:55 p.m. Nov. 6, 2009

It must be difficult for so many people who were told "This is the place" (when so many pushed on to beautiful California) to finally realize that place is dead and dying. Both socially and environmentally.

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