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State senator says in debate that initiative violates privacy

Published: Thursday, Nov. 5 2009 12:00 a.m. MST

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mike

Attorneys that won't allow an examination of their business practices tells me they must have committed alot of crooked deals. Typical of most republicans in this state.

re: mike

Guess again, mike. Attorneys who won't allow their books to be examined are simply abiding by the Utah Supreme Court's Rules of Professional Conduct, which require all lawyers to scrupulously maintain their client's confidentiality. That means no discussing ANYTHING, regarding your representation of a client with anyone but the client, including billing, work performed, scope of representation, etc.

Sounds like the Senator is merely wore aware of his pre-existing ethical duties than those who push this "reform."

Don't Like Mike

Mike, you are a dope.

Wrex

Anyone who has been in the House of Reps since 1980 SHOULD RETIRE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

it's amazing the

contortions these folks are willing to go through to avoid the light of day shining on their work.

oooooo, it burns!! we hates it!!!

Anonymous

It is time these extremist republicans retire that have been hogging the legislature. It is also time for a better representative sample of the population is in the legislature to represent the will of the people, rather than their personal bias.
We have suffered from this oppressive legiaslature now for 3 decades and it is time to end the corruptions.

Diana

If they are afraid to open their books, what will they do when they die and the book of life is open. OUCH! Where can we find honest men and women?

Craig

The article states that the opponents of the citizen initiative are mostly GOP legislators. Are there any democrats who oppose the initiative? Is it a democrat-backed initiative to begin with? I would like to know what the democrat representatives and senators say about this issue because the DNews is making this sound like it just a GOP issue.

Anonymous

Pethaps you should look at it from a law firms clients' perspective. Maybe you wouldn't want a lot of YOUR personal data posted publicly just because another lawyer that works for the firm happens to be in the legislature.

Maybe, just maybe, the proposed reforms are TOO BROAD & could use some focus and oversight as some legislators are suggesting.

Maybe, just maybe, the proposal is not thoroughlu vetted yet.

Ethics reform may be needed, but a wholesale elimination or others' privacy is not.

Pagan

So, this senator will leave if ethics reform passes in Utah? I have just one word on this passive attempt at blackmail.

Goodbye.

Greg

Mike has displayed his profound ignorance of the business world. When I read comments like this, it makes me grateful for common sense and for the good, hard working people who have the fortitude to make their private businesses work.

Anonymous

Sounds like a win win for us common folk.

Do we never learn?

We've had recent experience with this, "Just sign it into law now and we'll ammend it to make more sense later"... approach.

Does anybody remember the law on vouchers and private schools? They passed it with the assumption that it would later be ammended. Then the later ammendment was taken to court and used to invalidate and twist the whole law (or something like that).

If it's not right... don't pass it.

To "Diana | 1:50 p.m."

Diana | 1:50 p.m.

Don't just assume that is a law firm doesn't want it's books opened and it's client list known, and it's client lawyer privacy rights violated.... means they did something bad or have something sinister to hide.

That's how a lame-brain works. There may be any number of reasons why a business (especially a law firm) would not want their books, client lists, etc, known.

I write software for large companies (including law firms) and protecting this privacy of who has asked for their help, who they are currently working with, etc, is a VERY high priority to them (Even if they haven't done ANYTHING wrong).

Try not being so judgemental.

This issue has NOTHING to do with the Book of Life and you know it. Your just playing religious games to serve your political ends.

Scott

As a state employee all information is made available to the public. How much I make, where I work, etc. Why should elected officals be held to a lower scrunity? I think the any Utahn would agree that decision makers or elected officials need to be held to at least the same standard, argubly higher since they have the direct power to tax, and legistate that has a direct affect on our personal freedom.

Privacy

Privacy is not illegal. Failure to display every facet of one's personal life is not a sign of dishonesty. Reform should be realistic and aware of unintended consequences, i.e. if those with accomplishments are excluded from politics we will have only those who do not succeed representing us, like Mike.

Nelson

Too bad Senator! You and your team have had 20 years to address the problem, which has now become serious enough for the voters to take act. When asked; sign the petition.

Put up or shut up

I say pass this initiative OR have the legislature come up with a better plan.

Time to put up or shut up.

Go Lyle Go

Getting Hillyard out would be a great service to Utah.

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