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BYU football: Rested and ready to return to notoriously hostile Laramie
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BYU FAN | 9:46 p.m. Nov. 1, 2009
Go Beat the POKES, then. . . the LOBOS, then the FALCONS, then the UTES! Then,
go to VEGAS and BEAT Probably OREGON ST.
Anonymous | 9:47 p.m. Nov. 1, 2009
Somehow, some way, a Ute fan is about to say something really stupid about BYU,
further displaying their little brother syndrome.
Ladies and Gentlemen:
Little brother....
Ladies and Gentlemen:
Little brother....
Oh well | 10:18 p.m. Nov. 1, 2009
I guess our chances at a great year are gone. But. . . we still have a shot at
another good 11-2 season. I agree with the first poster. It's hard to say
who we would end up playing in the Las Vegas Bowl, assuming we win out and TCU
goes to a BCS Bowl. Oregon St. would be a tough, tough opponent. I think it
would be a nice test and a good win if we got to play them and win.
This just needs to be another good year so that we can decently pave the way for Jake Heaps and Co. to come in and finally be the guys to take us to the BCS. Not necessarily this next year, but in the years to come.
Go Cougars!
This just needs to be another good year so that we can decently pave the way for Jake Heaps and Co. to come in and finally be the guys to take us to the BCS. Not necessarily this next year, but in the years to come.
Go Cougars!
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Obsession | 10:23 p.m. Nov. 1, 2009
I am reading an article about BYU football, and what do I read? BYU players
talking about the Utes. BYU fans commenting about the Utes. This story is
about the Cougars!! Quit bringing up the Utes!! It has nothing to do with
them!! Geez.
NevadaCoug | 10:42 p.m. Nov. 1, 2009
Obsession: you're reading an awful lot into a couple of comments that
reference Utah. Who's really the obsessed one here?
Regarding BYU FAN @ 9:46:
First, you're probably just a Ute troll. But, just in case, BYU is not going to play in Vegas again this season. It could happen, sure, but no matter how they finish, the Vegas Bowl has pretty much said they are going with another team, if at all possible. And BYU will welcome it. Both parties are ready for a break after four straight years together.
Regarding BYU FAN @ 9:46:
First, you're probably just a Ute troll. But, just in case, BYU is not going to play in Vegas again this season. It could happen, sure, but no matter how they finish, the Vegas Bowl has pretty much said they are going with another team, if at all possible. And BYU will welcome it. Both parties are ready for a break after four straight years together.
Wayne Rout | 10:59 p.m. Nov. 1, 2009
I thought this article was going to be on the poor sportsmanship of the Wyo
fans. They should be in the WAC, not the MWC. They should be greatful that
BYU, TCU, Utah and Air Force would travel there to play. My local school,
UTEP, was left out of the MWC. They have the same quality of sports knowlege
and sportsmanship as Wyo. My vote is to throw them out and pick up Boise
State
Speaking of Obsessions... | 11:10 p.m. Nov. 1, 2009
... it was only a matter of time until some Cougar fan brought up Jake Heaps.
Sheesh, you people need to at least let the guy put on a BYU uniform before you
start piling on all the expectations, realistic and unrealistic alike.
FYI: Heaps' team lost a couple of games and lost in the first round of the state playoffs, though to an unbeaten squad. And blasphemy though it may be around Provo to say so, Heaps threw four interceptions in nine games. Hey, INTs happen when you're a QB. Detmer threw a few himself.
My point: Anyone expecting The Next Peyton Manning (especially the full-blown pro version) in Cougar Blue will have a good, LONG wait. Heaps is still human--AND he still has to win the nod over Riley Nelson. Don't give him the Heisman quite yet.
I won't complain if Heaps leads the Cougs to the BCS, should that happen. But it'll take more than a star QB to get there. (Consistently tough defense, for one thing?) So I also won't scream for Bronco's head if he decides Nelson's earned the job next year.
FYI: Heaps' team lost a couple of games and lost in the first round of the state playoffs, though to an unbeaten squad. And blasphemy though it may be around Provo to say so, Heaps threw four interceptions in nine games. Hey, INTs happen when you're a QB. Detmer threw a few himself.
My point: Anyone expecting The Next Peyton Manning (especially the full-blown pro version) in Cougar Blue will have a good, LONG wait. Heaps is still human--AND he still has to win the nod over Riley Nelson. Don't give him the Heisman quite yet.
I won't complain if Heaps leads the Cougs to the BCS, should that happen. But it'll take more than a star QB to get there. (Consistently tough defense, for one thing?) So I also won't scream for Bronco's head if he decides Nelson's earned the job next year.
Coug in Provo | 11:15 p.m. Nov. 1, 2009
Nearly every comment mentions the Utes. Why? Are we Ute haters or Cougar
fans?
Hopefully it's not your typical November Laramie weather on Saturday. That could be worrisome for the Cougs.
Hopefully it's not your typical November Laramie weather on Saturday. That could be worrisome for the Cougs.
Boise Cougar | 11:16 p.m. Nov. 1, 2009
Holy crow Wayne. How we would like to dump Wyoming or CSU for a Boise State...
true blew | 11:36 p.m. Nov. 1, 2009
Vegas probably wanted to see a team from the conference would win their bowl
game. I am still upset at Mendenhall for only using 6 of the 15 scheduled
practice times the Vegas Bowl committee arranged. It didn't help when he
and his players didn't show up for our pep rally. Small wonder BYU
wasn't invited back , no matter what their record is. Cougar fans are
always jumping ahead , we still have games to play yet, Wyoming could surprise
us and Air Force is never a given.
Lavell Edwards | 3:49 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
Famous quote: I'd rather be a loser from Utah and live in Utah, than a
winner from Wyoming and live in Wyoming. At least he was correct on that
assumption!
Tex-Mex | 4:40 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
I don't believe BYU should be ranked at all. Two losses at home, and blow
outs as well. Then the coach says maybe we weren't prepared as we should
be.
If you play TCU AND FSU how much more motivation do you need to be prepared as possible?
If you play TCU AND FSU how much more motivation do you need to be prepared as possible?
Vernal Roid | 5:08 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
Reading some of the post it looks as though BYU has already beaten Wyoming, Not
so fast, Utah had a tough time with the Pokes at home and I can see BYU falling
to them and Air force, No this isn't a UTE fan Either, Just don't
count the games before they are played.
dyc | 6:15 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
True Blew has it right. We still have games to play. BYU has the potential to
beat every team still on the schedule, but they always struggle with Utah and
Air Force is doing some good things this year. We need both offense and defense
playing together and doing their best in all the remaining games, instead of
just having half of our players showing up for a game. Go Cougs! Show us you
really want to win the rest of your season.
Come to Laramie | 6:19 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
Thanks for coming, drive safely.
Don't speed, you'll get ticketed for 10-15 over unlike the SLC metro area.
Cougars gonna get spurred by the Cowboys.
Don't speed, you'll get ticketed for 10-15 over unlike the SLC metro area.
Cougars gonna get spurred by the Cowboys.
Anonymous | 6:34 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
Halls a joke, start getting quotes from Pitta again...
Anonymous | 6:41 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
"Anytime you go to Laramie in late October or November, it's always
adventurous," said coach Bronco Mendenhall. "You just prepare for the
best. You really can't overemphasize it. Otherwise it can interfere with
your execution and the mindset of your team. You just go up and play."
What in the world is Mr. Mendenhall talking about? What is "it?"
What in the world is Mr. Mendenhall talking about? What is "it?"
Re:BYU FAN | 6:43 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
When is the national championship game that BYU is playing?
Is there an airport rally to send the team off?
Anonymous | 7:09 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
Why are our fans bringing up the utes?
I agree Wayne, BSU needs to be in the MWC. What is taking Craig Thompson so long?
I agree Wayne, BSU needs to be in the MWC. What is taking Craig Thompson so long?
Cougarf@n | 7:33 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
re: Speaking of Obsessions: I'm pretty sure Heaps lost in the state
championship game because his team's defense couldn't hold after he
threw for three touchdowns. The other loss (+2 or 3 of his 4 interception on
the year) was to Oaks Christian, a very good and nationally ranked california
high school team with several D-1 commits. I'm not one of those fans that
worships the ground that Heaps walks on, but I'm appropriately excited that
he's joining the program and I think you should at least get your facts
straight if you want to reduce expectations.
In other news, good to see BYU back in the top-25 after their first week out in over two years. Hopefully BYU can roll to a 10-2 season and beat up on whoever they get stuck with in the Poinsettia/Vegas bowl (I know thompson said BYU wouldn't go to the Vegas bowl again this year, but when has Thompson ever known what he's talking about?).
In other news, good to see BYU back in the top-25 after their first week out in over two years. Hopefully BYU can roll to a 10-2 season and beat up on whoever they get stuck with in the Poinsettia/Vegas bowl (I know thompson said BYU wouldn't go to the Vegas bowl again this year, but when has Thompson ever known what he's talking about?).
trueblue | 7:42 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
News Flash ! BYU is not that good. The cougars better be ready to play their
best game against Wyoming or they will get beat. I think us cougar fans take
for granted wins against teams like Wyoming. Can you imagine the shake up in
Provo if we started losing to teams like wyoming, New Mexico and San diego
State. Think about it, It could happen. What is the benifit of beating below
average teams and then getting drilled by an average team like Arizona ? Sorry
if this offends any of the brethren but, This is one FRUSTRATED cougar fan.
Anything short of a blow out victory in Wyoming will demonstrate that the
"soft bellys" in Provo are full.
RE: 6:41 | 7:44 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
Maybe I'm getting dementia or Alzheimers, but that quote made some sense!
@ Cougarf@n | 8:13 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
Yes, I can't wait for our Cougars to beat up on our Las Vegas bowl
opponent--although it really is so annoying that we get "stuck" with
such worthless competition every year. We totally own that bowl game and the
Pac-10. Big Game Cougars, that's our MO. Just sad we can't get some
better competition in that game.
Cougs in trouble... | 8:15 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
WYO had the Utes number till the final quarter in SLC. They are the perfect
team to beat BYU...small defensive line, and fast recievers. This game could
get ugly in a hurry if the Cougs can play some ball-control with Unga and co.
WYO would love to run the score up if given the opportunity...and we all know that Hall and co. will give them plenty of opportuities this Sat. Not to mention the plethora of stupid defensive penalties we seem to have in Laramie. Best of luck in Sheepville.
WYO would love to run the score up if given the opportunity...and we all know that Hall and co. will give them plenty of opportuities this Sat. Not to mention the plethora of stupid defensive penalties we seem to have in Laramie. Best of luck in Sheepville.
StopIt | 8:27 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
BYU is still playing? Wow! Please tell them to "stop it!" Sorry I
woke up too soon. Wake me up when Bronco is gone and Anae is unemployed. Simply
put, BYU's season is over. I don't care if they win the rest of their
games - it's pointless ...GO TCU!!! TCU has a good chance of being the
first REAL BCS buster. TCU is the only legit team to represent the MWC.
Re: 6:41 | 8:32 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
The first "it" as in "overemphasize it" refers to the
weather in Laramie in late October and November. The second "it"
refers to overemphasizing the first "it". Any other simple questions?
Howard S. | 8:42 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
"Hopefully it's not too cold" says Max Hall.
Real football players welcome harsh and hostile conditions.
Not Max.....
Real football players welcome harsh and hostile conditions.
Not Max.....
KC | 8:44 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
I'm not sure that what these Cougars needed was rest.
What we need | 9:03 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
is some ugly black uniforms like the u has. I hear they got them at DI.
depressed Y fan | 9:08 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
I think Bronoco likes to speak in a way that no one understands him so he can
never be held to his word... because no one knows what that is. I feel like
anyone could be a coach, all you need to say is- If our guys execute on Defense
and our offense comes out ready to play we should be fine... blah blah blah,
stop talking and beat a good team, we could easily lose to Wyoming, Air Force
and Utah. Hopefully New Mexico can make us their 1st win, then mabye we'll
make a change in the program instead of talking about it every week. What a joke
this yr is. We get all the way to 7 in talks of a NC to barley hitting 25th now
on our way to another terrible Bowl game. Well at least BYU is consistent,
consistent and disappointing thier fans!
Halls a Joke | 9:12 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
I love how that article is titles, "BYU ready to return to Laramie"
and its a picture of Max Hall getting sacked... That is a good summary of Max
Hall in big games, INT's and Sacks with post game comments like "I
think I am playing great" and "I cant wait for next week to
play". It feels like BYU is playing in the turkey bowl every year at their
home ward with a avg deacon at QB... Bring in Nelson or Heaps. Let Heaps start
he made the very "smart" choice not to serve a mission so he can pull
a Steve Young and "go" after his 4 yrs at BYU, ya that will happen???
Well at least Steve isnt still working on Sunday... O wait he is. Good one Steve
way to represent.
Rested? | 9:19 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
I agree with KC. The Cougars rested against Florida State and TCU. Love the
Cougars, but disappointed they couldn't show up in their own stadium for
two huge games.
Desert Coug | 9:56 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
BYU Coaching staff appears unable to get their team ready for the big games
lately. If they don't get the team ready, they have a good possibility of
losing 3 of the next four games.
Wyoming will be tuff. Air Force will be tuff. Utah? If they can't get up for Utah, what does it matter where they go for a bowl game?
Come On Cougs!
Wyoming will be tuff. Air Force will be tuff. Utah? If they can't get up for Utah, what does it matter where they go for a bowl game?
Come On Cougs!
go Cowboys!!! | 10:02 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
I am betting Wyo beats BYU this year. Go pokes!!
Round 3 | 10:13 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
Let the next round of brainwashing begin. Ooooh, if we beat Wyoming, it'll
show that we're a top program again. We Cougar fans know that our team
beats bad teams without exception. It has something to do with the maturity
level of our boys who have mostly served missions. We don't falter often
against bad teams. But let's not deceive ourselves, we still can't
beat good teams. Yes, Jake may help out but until Bronco is fired, this team
will repeat the pattern of losing to good teams over and over again.
Better be ready | 10:22 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
I cant stand watching anything to do with Utah football, but, I watched the end
of the Wyoming game. Wyoming had them beat. They were marching down the field.
The qb threw a good pass and the receiver for some reason fell asleep, causing
an interception. Here is the point: Wyoming is a pretty good football team. My
Cougs will be fortunate to get out of there with a win.
Thanks, Bronco | 10:32 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
Yet another Bronco quote featuring "execute." Can anyone find a quote
in which Bronco doesn't use a form of this, his favorite word?
I will pay you money.
Has Bronco named one of his kids "execute" yet? Or still just Razor, Cutter, and Blade?
I will pay you money.
Has Bronco named one of his kids "execute" yet? Or still just Razor, Cutter, and Blade?
BYU ready to return to Laramie | 10:35 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
No, they're not.
ref: Howard S | 10:50 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
"Real football players welcome harsh and hostile conditions"
Cut Max Hall, a break he played high school football in Mesa, Arizona where bad weather is 60 degrees and light wind. The weather in Provo is cold enough for him.
I watch a lot of college football and most teams would love to have Max. He may not be Steve Young or Ty Detmer, but he's a very good college quarterback and BYU is lucky to have him!
GO Cougars!!
The Future Is Defense | 11:19 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
When (or if) BYU finally commits itself to creating a strong, consistent and
disruptive defense, the Cougars will become a "great" football team.
I look at the losses to TCU and FSU, as well as the blowouts suffered last
season and I see defense as the most glaring deficiency. Max Hall isn’t
the problem, giving up big offensive numbers is the problem.
Line play is where it starts. BYU has been stunningly inept at creating pressure on opposing quarterbacks and reducing throwing time without blitzing and even then it’s sketchy. Blitzing takes defenders away from coverage and if you don’t get to the quarterback, he will eat you alive. TCU and Utah create pressure with the 4-man front while maintaining an effective defensive secondary. Offensively, BYU is at least their equal, but will not attain similar success until the defensive philosophy changes from “Bend, But Don’t Break” to “Disrupt and Shut-Down”. I realize that athletes are necessary, but isn’t that what recruiting is for? Getting guys like Heaps is fine, but defense wins championships!
Line play is where it starts. BYU has been stunningly inept at creating pressure on opposing quarterbacks and reducing throwing time without blitzing and even then it’s sketchy. Blitzing takes defenders away from coverage and if you don’t get to the quarterback, he will eat you alive. TCU and Utah create pressure with the 4-man front while maintaining an effective defensive secondary. Offensively, BYU is at least their equal, but will not attain similar success until the defensive philosophy changes from “Bend, But Don’t Break” to “Disrupt and Shut-Down”. I realize that athletes are necessary, but isn’t that what recruiting is for? Getting guys like Heaps is fine, but defense wins championships!
Bronco | 11:28 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
is giving Salt Lake exactly what they want..a Sunday School class in pads.
I've never seen a more passive, boring (bored?) football team (well, maybe
last year) After Oklahoma the coaches seem clueless. I guess as long as the team
doen't give the church any bad pub and wins enough to get the missionary
program mentioned on national TV once in a while, the wins and losses, rankings,
BCS and all that other "unimportant" stuff is secondary.
I say: | 11:41 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
Go back to the real BYU Royal Blue uniforms. Whoever came up with Utah State
Blue with that funky stripe on the pants should be forced to buy Utah State
season tickets.
BYU | 11:43 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
goes 2-2 the rest of the way..
Go Cougars | 11:58 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
True BLue Cugars! I love my school! We are the best! Go beat the Cowboy
team...with cowboy people
ocron | 12:08 p.m. Nov. 2, 2009
Can't the MWC just kick Wyoming to the curb? Talk about bringing nothing
to the party, Wyoming is a liablity. No success with any athletics; smallest tv
market in the US, lousy playing conditions, disgusting fans, etc. etc. At least
Boise St. has a football team. Although, the blue turf has to go first.
re: the future is defense | 12:10 p.m. Nov. 2, 2009
"Max Hall isn’t the problem, giving up big offensive numbers is the
problem."
I agree we could use a better defense. But please explain how scoring only 7 points against TCU isn't also a problem???
I agree we could use a better defense. But please explain how scoring only 7 points against TCU isn't also a problem???
Cynic | 12:17 p.m. Nov. 2, 2009
I'm not sure Wyoming is ready to return to Laramie. However, in Laramie
language, Saturday may be a decent day for a football game.
Anonymous | 12:28 p.m. Nov. 2, 2009
The defensive insecurity of zoo fans is always hilarious! It's like
listening to a bunch of four year olds squabble over who got the biggest piece
of candy. Don't worry little zoo boys with your little zoo toys, that
travesty of a football team that you attach what passes for your
"manhood" to probably will end up in the New Mexico Bowl; that is if
it doesn't lose to Wyoming, Air Force and Utah.
Change the goals | 12:39 p.m. Nov. 2, 2009
Look, if Bronco is going to continue to go easy in practices and tell his
players that football is only the 5th most important thing for them and he
can't motivate the team and his assistants to get up for every game
(especially against utah and TCU) then he should revise the team's
goals.
Replace the goals of winning the MWC, getting to a BCS bowl, and some day winning another national championship with goals like:
o Play well in almost all MWC games
o Try to beat a big name ranked team once every 10 years
o Try to finish no lower than 3rd in the MWC
o Win 33% of our bowl games
I mean, a big part of fan unhappiness is due to Bronco's lofty goals that have not been achieved and that we don't seem to be any closer to achieving. So go ahead and lower the goals if you're not serious about them.
Replace the goals of winning the MWC, getting to a BCS bowl, and some day winning another national championship with goals like:
o Play well in almost all MWC games
o Try to beat a big name ranked team once every 10 years
o Try to finish no lower than 3rd in the MWC
o Win 33% of our bowl games
I mean, a big part of fan unhappiness is due to Bronco's lofty goals that have not been achieved and that we don't seem to be any closer to achieving. So go ahead and lower the goals if you're not serious about them.
Minerman | 12:48 p.m. Nov. 2, 2009
Max Hall looks down field...finds anothre Kruger WIIIIIIDE open, and throws a
perfect strike! Hall to Kruger, now that's become a staple here at BYU!
HAHAHAHAH. Sorry, just haven't seen a Hall to Kruger reference in a while.
Good luck Cougars. I'm bettin you beat Wyoming, and New Mexico is a gimmie, but Air Force...well, after regulation they played TCU to a 20-17 loss, and Utah to a 17-17 draw. Nice thing for BYU is that Air Force doesn't really throw, at all. I'd bet money that they try a season high in passes when they play the cougars though. lol.
Then there's always the Utah game. One thing I think we all know: BYU struggles BIG-TIME against quality, fast defenses. And the one thing Utah ALWYAS has...yup. So it's BYU's mediocre offense, against Utah's top notch defense, and my Utes spaztic offense against a less than intimidating BYU defense. Should be interesting.
Heh, and for the record, I'm not a cougar hater, BYU was my favorite team growin up. But grew up and... I'm a true UTE alum baby! GO UTES!
Good luck Cougars. I'm bettin you beat Wyoming, and New Mexico is a gimmie, but Air Force...well, after regulation they played TCU to a 20-17 loss, and Utah to a 17-17 draw. Nice thing for BYU is that Air Force doesn't really throw, at all. I'd bet money that they try a season high in passes when they play the cougars though. lol.
Then there's always the Utah game. One thing I think we all know: BYU struggles BIG-TIME against quality, fast defenses. And the one thing Utah ALWYAS has...yup. So it's BYU's mediocre offense, against Utah's top notch defense, and my Utes spaztic offense against a less than intimidating BYU defense. Should be interesting.
Heh, and for the record, I'm not a cougar hater, BYU was my favorite team growin up. But grew up and... I'm a true UTE alum baby! GO UTES!
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