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Are you vaccinated? Some worried Utahns avoiding H1N1 vaccine
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Heidi | 11:25 p.m. Nov. 1, 2009
I also won't line up in the cold to get it. I would feel like I'm in
a third world country.
Just be sensible, be hygenic, eat right, get rest and exercise. A nurse who can't take flu shots highly recommended taking Vitamin D3 to boost immunity.
Drink lots of water and get massages. It will flush the toxins out of your body. When I used to get regular massages, I never got sick.
And getting a massage is a whole heck of a lot better than standing in line for a flu shot that may or may not work and feeling like you live in a nanny state.
Just be sensible, be hygenic, eat right, get rest and exercise. A nurse who can't take flu shots highly recommended taking Vitamin D3 to boost immunity.
Drink lots of water and get massages. It will flush the toxins out of your body. When I used to get regular massages, I never got sick.
And getting a massage is a whole heck of a lot better than standing in line for a flu shot that may or may not work and feeling like you live in a nanny state.
Schip | 11:55 p.m. Nov. 1, 2009
My daughter in law is an OBGYN and has lost 2 patients to the H1N1 flu. The
babies survived, but the mothers just could not fight the respiratory sickness.
She has another mother in intensive care. Those who struggle with respiratory
situations and are in the high risk age group might consider the H1N1 shot.
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H1N1+Halloween=Sick | 1:13 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
It's sad to think that children are considered high at risk for H1N1 and
nobody in the media or the CDC has said single thing about encouraging children
to NOT pig out on Halloween Candy.
In a time when we want to be strengthening our immune systems NOT WEAKENING them, sugar is what we should be eliminating or at least minimizing.
Folks Sugar is known to Suppress the Immune System. You can wash your hands until your skin cracks open but it's not going to help your kids a single bit while they're weakening their immune systems with Halloween Candy.
In a time when we want to be strengthening our immune systems NOT WEAKENING them, sugar is what we should be eliminating or at least minimizing.
Folks Sugar is known to Suppress the Immune System. You can wash your hands until your skin cracks open but it's not going to help your kids a single bit while they're weakening their immune systems with Halloween Candy.
Undecided | 1:18 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
I'm 7 months pregnant and have read up on as much of this H1N1 as I can
find. While there ARE pregnant women who are in ICU and have died from H1N1...
it's less than 1% of all pregnant women and only 6% of people who have
contracted H1N1.
My hesitation is from the fact that there are NO LONG-TERM studies done for this vaccine, let alone ANY studies done on pregnant women. I'm not a lab rat, nor is my unborn child. Yes, the vaccine is made the same way the regular flu vaccine is, but are all car seats are made similar too and those have to be thoroughly tested before being available to the public! There's no way to recall the vaccine shot once administered!
My hesitation is from the fact that there are NO LONG-TERM studies done for this vaccine, let alone ANY studies done on pregnant women. I'm not a lab rat, nor is my unborn child. Yes, the vaccine is made the same way the regular flu vaccine is, but are all car seats are made similar too and those have to be thoroughly tested before being available to the public! There's no way to recall the vaccine shot once administered!
No vaccine | 2:31 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
My 3 year old son was diagnosed as PDD this summer (pervasive development
disorder), or in other words autism. I was one who used to think those who
didn't vacinate their children for autisitc reasons were lunatics. Now my
wife and I struggling to understand what happened and how to help our child. We
have no idea if vacinations were the cause. In fact, I am pretty convinced that
in his case vacinations were not the cause and unfortunately we will probably
never know the cause. However, we have quickly learned that whenever we
inundate the body with foreign chemicals/toxins it has an impact. Additionaly,
when you expose little children to such foreign substances in many cases their
little bodies just aren't equipped to handle such doses. In the case of
the flu, our body has a natural method of fighting it off. There are extreme
cases where our body loses the battle. But 99.9% of us will win it. Why not
let our body do its natural course vs. exposing our body to add'tl toxins?
BTW, my son contracted H1N1 two weeks ago and fully recovered. Going natural is
for me.
awsomeron | 5:04 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
If you read or listen to the News, you would realize that Childern are dying
form this flu at an alarming rate.
Others spend a long time in the Hospital and come very close to Death which usually leaves life long side affects.
Some of these kids have other health issues, some don't or at least diden't.
Kids need the Swine Flu Shot and the flu shot and it should be Mandatory and enforced, not allowing your child to get the shot is Child Neglect and Child Abuse.
If you expose your child to a greater danger of catching the flu or getting a worse case of the flu because they did not get a flu shot, mostly because of how you felt about it. Or some one else got the flu because your child got the flu and exposed them to it. Then that is child endangerment and if they die perhaps even Manslaughter.
Shots are designed to protect both us and those around us. You may have the right for a limited time to raise you child as you see fit, but you have No Right to endanger their health oor other peoples health.
Others spend a long time in the Hospital and come very close to Death which usually leaves life long side affects.
Some of these kids have other health issues, some don't or at least diden't.
Kids need the Swine Flu Shot and the flu shot and it should be Mandatory and enforced, not allowing your child to get the shot is Child Neglect and Child Abuse.
If you expose your child to a greater danger of catching the flu or getting a worse case of the flu because they did not get a flu shot, mostly because of how you felt about it. Or some one else got the flu because your child got the flu and exposed them to it. Then that is child endangerment and if they die perhaps even Manslaughter.
Shots are designed to protect both us and those around us. You may have the right for a limited time to raise you child as you see fit, but you have No Right to endanger their health oor other peoples health.
Anon 808 | 5:10 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
I would hate to be a Sibling who lost a Sibling because my Parents where not
bright enough to get them a flu shot.
Some of that coughing and sniffles can be controled by not sharing the same room, or the same dishes and cups washed or not.
Some of that coughing and sniffles can be controled by not sharing the same room, or the same dishes and cups washed or not.
liberal larry | 6:04 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
I believe that the H1N1 vaccine has been produced using the same techniques that
are used each year to make regular flu vaccines. An official speaking last
night on "60 minutes" claims that there have been no serious side
effects seen from the nearly 10,000,000 people who have received the
vaccinations. This being said, I encourage all of the "aluminum foil in
the hat" conservatives to test their theory about the dangers of
vaccinations and to NOT get the shots.
Bad Reporting | 7:18 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
Dear Deseret News,
Why don't you find some agoraphobics and do a story on why we all should be afraid to go out in public--or a hypochondriac and do a little human interest piece on how all of us should be afraid of dying daily.
Or maybe you could report the facts about the flu vaccine instead of yet another set of irrational fears about what in MIGHT do. You and other news outlets have pandered to the claims of vaccine refusers for so many years that now half the population is afraid of vaccines. Just because people have irrational fears & are happy to talk to your reporters does not make them newsworthy sources. Why don't you do some research and report the science instead of the hysteria?
Why don't you find some agoraphobics and do a story on why we all should be afraid to go out in public--or a hypochondriac and do a little human interest piece on how all of us should be afraid of dying daily.
Or maybe you could report the facts about the flu vaccine instead of yet another set of irrational fears about what in MIGHT do. You and other news outlets have pandered to the claims of vaccine refusers for so many years that now half the population is afraid of vaccines. Just because people have irrational fears & are happy to talk to your reporters does not make them newsworthy sources. Why don't you do some research and report the science instead of the hysteria?
LOL | 7:22 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
For those hung up on 'long term studies'. Every year the flu strain
changes, thus the flu vaccine changes due to the new strain. Thus there are no
'long term studies' of the flu vaccine. Just the fact that the flu
shot has been given year after year, no mention of the fact that it is a new and
different shot year after year. So all the H1N1 shot is, is a new version of
the same old shot.
That being said, if you don't want the shot don't get it. This is a decision to be made within the family unit with your personal physicians input/advice.
That being said, if you don't want the shot don't get it. This is a decision to be made within the family unit with your personal physicians input/advice.
Evets | 7:29 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
I love it when people say that they "just don't want to take the
chance with their (or their kids) body/health by taking the flu vaccine.
By not taking the vaccine you are not avoiding taking a chance. You ARE taking a chance of dying or at least being very sick. We have lost well over 100 children and well over 1000 adults due to the flu in just the last several months. How many have died from the H1N1 vaccine or even had complications?? Zero, none, nada.
As a health care provider I received my seasonal and H1N2 vaccinations. I really can't afford to be out sick for a week. I have known many, many that really got sick from H1N1. As one patient told me just last week after recovering from H1N1 when I asked him how was he doing now? He stated, "I'll be just fine as soon as I can get my stomach muscles reattached." Yes, he survived but now wishes he would of had the opportunity to get the immunization instead of being so very ill for about 5 days.
By not taking the vaccine you are not avoiding taking a chance. You ARE taking a chance of dying or at least being very sick. We have lost well over 100 children and well over 1000 adults due to the flu in just the last several months. How many have died from the H1N1 vaccine or even had complications?? Zero, none, nada.
As a health care provider I received my seasonal and H1N2 vaccinations. I really can't afford to be out sick for a week. I have known many, many that really got sick from H1N1. As one patient told me just last week after recovering from H1N1 when I asked him how was he doing now? He stated, "I'll be just fine as soon as I can get my stomach muscles reattached." Yes, he survived but now wishes he would of had the opportunity to get the immunization instead of being so very ill for about 5 days.
Not Confused | 7:37 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
With the MILLIONS of lives saved due to various vaccinations...I know what
I'm doing...I'm getting the shot.
I'm not saying that H1N1 isn't blown out of proportion...but there are multi-millions receiving flu shots each year with little side effects, and very few deaths compared to what the flu can do.
I'm not saying that H1N1 isn't blown out of proportion...but there are multi-millions receiving flu shots each year with little side effects, and very few deaths compared to what the flu can do.
Red | 7:41 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
No one is talking about the fact that many of us have already had the swine flu
and THAT is why we don't need the immunization. Our family has already had
it, as have many in our neighborhood and school. It wasn't that tough to
handle: just another winter cold.
Plus, we don't normally get the regular flu shot. I have found that the flu shot makes me sick after I get it and that I only get an actual flu in the winter about 30% of the time. (My kids are about the same.) Why would I get a shot that guarantees 100% that I will be sick? Same problem with the swine flu shot. Do I want to guarantee that I'll be sick? Or just do my best and take my chances?
Plus, we don't normally get the regular flu shot. I have found that the flu shot makes me sick after I get it and that I only get an actual flu in the winter about 30% of the time. (My kids are about the same.) Why would I get a shot that guarantees 100% that I will be sick? Same problem with the swine flu shot. Do I want to guarantee that I'll be sick? Or just do my best and take my chances?
Gary O | 7:41 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
This vaccine is no different than the seasonal flu vaccine. I've heard the
reasons for not getting it and still don't understand all the furor over
this. I agree with another commenter that those who don't get their
children and themselves vaccinated thinking they can weather the H1N1 flu are
endangering others they may come in contact with who then don't have the
choice. Yes, they MAY be able to weather the H1N1 as get better, but what about
while you're sick? Are you going to isolate yourselves at home? I think
not; there's no way you can.
Thankful | 7:49 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
I'm so happy to see that people are studying this out and not just acting
on mass fear produced by our media.
This shot is dangerous.
So nice to something other than sheeple in our state. Good for all of you!
This shot is dangerous.
So nice to something other than sheeple in our state. Good for all of you!
re: liberal larry | 7:51 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
i was on board with you until you unsulted millions of people. however, i will
set your rediculous, prejudicial, ending aside and agree with the beginning of
your comment. i have researched this and all of my family is getting
vaccinated. i have a daughter with asthma and a husband with a heart condition.
the smart thing to do is to get vaccinated. this vaccine WAS created just like
the seasonal flu vaccine. there is no danger, only regret if you have a child
that gets it and does not recover well or dies.
larry, people would listen and take your comment more seriously if you didn't insult them. this goes for people on both sides of the aisle.
larry, people would listen and take your comment more seriously if you didn't insult them. this goes for people on both sides of the aisle.
re awesomeron | 8:19 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
"Kids need the Swine Flu Shot and the flu shot and it should be Mandatory
and enforced, not allowing your child to get the shot is Child Neglect and Child
Abuse."
That's a pretty ignorant statement. I'm glad that most Americans don't share you zeal for taking away someones right to choose. My family is healthy because we eat right and we exercise. I haven't had the flu shot in years and my children never have. We are much healthier than most those who get the shot. So to say I am neglecting my children is a totally ignorant statement on your part. I would say the children that get flu shots and are sick all winter anyway are the ones being abused. Maybe parents should think about putting more effort to raise healthy children and less on standing in line for a shot. BTW, I haven't had the flu in years despite not getting the stupid shot.
That's a pretty ignorant statement. I'm glad that most Americans don't share you zeal for taking away someones right to choose. My family is healthy because we eat right and we exercise. I haven't had the flu shot in years and my children never have. We are much healthier than most those who get the shot. So to say I am neglecting my children is a totally ignorant statement on your part. I would say the children that get flu shots and are sick all winter anyway are the ones being abused. Maybe parents should think about putting more effort to raise healthy children and less on standing in line for a shot. BTW, I haven't had the flu in years despite not getting the stupid shot.
deaf gerry | 8:24 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
its a matter of choice!!! u want it or u dont?? listening and reading all abt
the shots of flu and h1n1 shots.. and u hear rumors of bad side effects from
those shots happens in later in life..
i chose not too.. because i feel its a scaring thing and its th fear of UNKNOWN OF SIDE EFFECTS and the flu shots are good with sick people who has low immune system..like my husband hes a transplant person..had west nile virus.. he made it through..alli can say follow yr heart and pray abt it ..listen to others and take their advice, keep hands clean , bathe, wash everthing often... keyboards, steering wheels ,cell phones, keep bathroom and kitchen clean..hopefully we will be ok ..just stay home if u are sick!!!
i chose not too.. because i feel its a scaring thing and its th fear of UNKNOWN OF SIDE EFFECTS and the flu shots are good with sick people who has low immune system..like my husband hes a transplant person..had west nile virus.. he made it through..alli can say follow yr heart and pray abt it ..listen to others and take their advice, keep hands clean , bathe, wash everthing often... keyboards, steering wheels ,cell phones, keep bathroom and kitchen clean..hopefully we will be ok ..just stay home if u are sick!!!
justone | 8:25 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
Isn't it great that we live in a country that we have the right to choose!
That we aren't forced to get or not have the opportunity to get the
vaccination. But I do have to say that manslaughter is a little to the left.
If we are forced to get it then that goes against everything this country stands
for. Especially when there isn't even enough of the vaccine to go around.
I think we should all take a step back and look at this rationally. People have
had the option to either vaccinate or not vaccinate their children for years,
this isn't something new and we are all entitled to this choice.
That's what makes this country great! Freedom!
Asthma Dad | 8:25 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
My 3 year old son has asthma. There have been times where we have had to take
him to the doctor because of attacks that have been onset by some type of
respiratory infection. I decided not to take the risk with a child with asthma
especially when I am reading how a majority of H1N1 deaths are due to
respiratory issues.
Karl | 8:29 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
Some people need to realize that this is a numbers game. There is a risk if you
get a shot, there is a risk if you don't. It's always been that way,
from polio to TB to flu.
Statistically, individuals and communities are better off when a supermajority of people get vaccinated. If you're waiting for the magic Pill of Life, you'll wait a while. I hear it's at least 15 years off still.
Statistically, individuals and communities are better off when a supermajority of people get vaccinated. If you're waiting for the magic Pill of Life, you'll wait a while. I hear it's at least 15 years off still.
Anonymous | 8:40 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
Hey, if they don't want it, more for the sane people. Yeehaw!
not enough! | 8:41 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
i would get but everytime i turn on the news its says we ran out!!!!
You can't get it ! | 8:48 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
This is not even a topic to discuss, because the vaccine is not available.
Also, it takes several weeks after you get the vaccine for it to be at full
strength. By that time, the peak of the H1N1 flu will be over.
Wise Old Bird | 8:53 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
Too many myths and hysteria about flu shots and H1N1 vaccines. I'll bet
the family in this article would have much less sick time if they would get
vaccinated. I have had a flu shot every year, and never have any side effects,
had a pnemonia shot (the last time I had pnemonia it about killed me - so a
little shot has saved that grief for a few years now and $$$ bills) and I plan
to get the H1N1 virus shot. Vaccines are wonderful things - how many of you are
too young to remember the Polio epidemic? Have had the Mumps or serious
Measles? Tuberculosis? Hear old timers tell of the Flu epidemic of the early
1900's? I'll take vaccinations any day over death or illness or a
sick winter like the family in the article complains about. If they had
vaccines, perhaps the parents could take the kids on a nice summer vacation
instead of using up all their vacation time coughing and hacking and on Dr.
appointments / antibiotics! Get a clue!
Re: awsomeron | 9:28 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
Wow are you a communist?
Mc | 9:37 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
Do some reading on garlic and oregano oil. Both are antiviral and
antibacterial. They boost your immune system and help your body fight illness
without any side effects. Haven't had the flu in our home in over 30
years. No flu vaccine either.
anonymous | 9:51 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
The H1N1 flu is killing people, healthy people, obese people, young people,
middle age people. Most who get it recover with no problem, but an alarming
number are ending up in ICU's on ventilators for several days.
Make an educated choice about the vaccine knowing that a two or three week ICU stay or death is an option or the risks associated with getting a vaccine.
I work in a local ICU so I've seen it first hand and had my worries about the vaccine, but when it was offered I got it.
Make an educated choice about the vaccine knowing that a two or three week ICU stay or death is an option or the risks associated with getting a vaccine.
I work in a local ICU so I've seen it first hand and had my worries about the vaccine, but when it was offered I got it.
How will Mr. Pray feel | 10:04 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
When he has to speak at one of his childrens funerals? How will he feel knowing
that he had the chance to take a preventative step and instead decided to roll
the dice and go against the advice of medical professionals. Not a chance I am
willing to take. I'm going to have my children vaccinated and sleep well
at night knowing I did all I could to protect my family.
MormonDem | 10:18 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
Sigh. No wonder we still don't have fluoridated water in Utah.
Modern Medicine | 10:33 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
I would like to echo "Wise Old Bird." Much of the improved longevity
in the past 100+ years is due to antibiotics and vaccinations. It is really
amazing people are willing to put their children's lives at risk by not
getting them vaccinated, not just talking about H1N1. Fear and ignorance go
hand-in-hand.
Heath | 10:42 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
I have never had the flu shot and the times I presume that I had the flu, it
wiped me out for only one day. My children get the flu maybe once a year and it
lasts for just a couple of days.
My mother who works in an elementary school gets flu shots every year, I believe it's mandatory for school workers. She ends up getting sick with the flu several times during the winter in which each episode lasts about a week.
Need a good explanation.
My mother who works in an elementary school gets flu shots every year, I believe it's mandatory for school workers. She ends up getting sick with the flu several times during the winter in which each episode lasts about a week.
Need a good explanation.
To Mc | 10:45 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
Thanks for the tip!
Re: Awsomeron | 10:47 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
I went to my baby's 6 month Dr. appt. I asked about the flu shot, you know
what my Pediatrician said, "They applied for the vaccination H1N1 well in
advance and they aren't getting it." So, I called my family doctor.
None. If swine flu is so dang deadly that we have to vaccinate our children
then why is the government leaving out pediatricians? Why do we have to take
our children out to stand in long lines, in the frigid cold air, and sleep over
night (which is what many people claimed to have done on the news) in order to
get the stupid shot? The Pediatricians need to get it first before your comment
has any verity. I've always taken my children to get the flu shot and I
started last year to do so in October because I kept getting the flu earlier.
This is the first year I've been unable due to it being unavailable. And
guess what? My family is sick! I say Thanks A LOT! And keep your ignorant
comments at bay!
MSC | 10:56 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
The last time I got a few shot was in 1995. Within 48 hours of the shot I was
very ill with flu symptoms that lasted almost a week. To me, that was negative
behavioral reinforcement. SInce then I haven't had another flu vaccine.
I haven't had my children get the flu shots either. They have healthy immune systems and seem to have maybe-- one minor illness a season. Usually that is from the step bacteria. Recently as I also did some research on the 1976 swine flu epidemic, it appeared that again we are having another hysteria promoting attempt from the CDC regarding this illness and vaccine. I believe that people need to have their free choice. If a person feels they want to prevent H1N1, go ahead and get the shot but please don't demand that I get it. If you are immunized then you will not get my H1N1 germs if I get sick and we come into contact. Usually parents are aware of how their children respond to illness and need to be allowed to make these decisions especially--- as they are trying alternative healthy lifestyles to prevent illness.
I haven't had my children get the flu shots either. They have healthy immune systems and seem to have maybe-- one minor illness a season. Usually that is from the step bacteria. Recently as I also did some research on the 1976 swine flu epidemic, it appeared that again we are having another hysteria promoting attempt from the CDC regarding this illness and vaccine. I believe that people need to have their free choice. If a person feels they want to prevent H1N1, go ahead and get the shot but please don't demand that I get it. If you are immunized then you will not get my H1N1 germs if I get sick and we come into contact. Usually parents are aware of how their children respond to illness and need to be allowed to make these decisions especially--- as they are trying alternative healthy lifestyles to prevent illness.
Ironic | 10:56 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
that the family is saving all their vacation time for flu season. If they got
the flu shots and took preventative measures, they could possibly take a nice
memorable vacation in the summer instead.
Re: Awsomeron | 11:02 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
I just called my babies pediatrician and they've only this season gotten 20
doses of the H1N1 vaccination and they had to give it to the highest risk
patients! And for the regular vaccination tomorrow they're giving the
vaccine to those 3 and under between certain hours until it's gone and you
have to call early in the morning to get an appointment for the shot and my baby
probably won't qualify for the shot because she's sick right now! If
my baby gets H1N1. I blame the government!
Anonymous | 11:05 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
If people want to put their kids at risk of dying, let them. More resources for
the rest of us, smaller carbon footprint.
Gramma | 11:06 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
No one I have contacted has any kind of flu vaccine in their office/pharmacy.
So this may all be moot anyway. And, as to it not being tested, well, if I can
find vaccine that was grown in the US and not in China, I would feel much better
about it.
China is not at the top of the testing chain!
China is not at the top of the testing chain!
Think people | 11:13 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
People like the Pray family sometimes don't stop and think they are
increasing the risk for others. Their children get sick and it increases the
risk for others getting sick. I've seen too many parents send their
children to school sick.
The more people who get vaccinated the less risk there is to everybody else.
The more people who get vaccinated the less risk there is to everybody else.
here's one to think about | 11:39 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
i went to a baptism this weekend and someone was there with a mask on his face
because he was sick with somthing.
i dont know if he had the swine flu or not, but is it that inportant to get 50 people sick just to show up at a nieces baptism in which she is not going to remember that you showed up or not in 10 yrs.
i dont know if he had the swine flu or not, but is it that inportant to get 50 people sick just to show up at a nieces baptism in which she is not going to remember that you showed up or not in 10 yrs.
facts | 11:43 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
13,000 people died from the flu between jan-april h1n1 1,000 died common sense
says if you have a higher chance of dying from the flu than the pig flu
Right-to-know Vac contents | 12:01 p.m. Nov. 2, 2009
I'll take the vaccination once the media--including this and all other
newspapers 1) publishes and thus openly lists all ingredients in this quickly
created "flu" vaccine. There should be nothing sacred about it. Since
there's nothing--"sigh"--to 'worry about', no angry
medical practioner need react to inquiry or 'questioning' inquiry.
This is America (with a "c"), the last time I checked, so we all have
the RIGHT TO KNOW with accuracy and total honesty-- the ingredients included,
and with no withholding of data, prejudicial bias or conflict-of-interest from
the numerous manufacturereps or retailers of our meds. Right? The jury's
still out as to whether med-manufacturers can produce ANY new product sans
moderate to major side affects or 'dirty' (toxic) mixtures in
today's world of SOME pharmaceuticals. So these are ESPECIALLY TIMES to be
questioning what's administered to me or others. With all the genious-power
in this land, there's got to certainly be more of the "less" as
in LESS toxicity-levels in current med-manufacturers' chemicals than ever
before, rather than the opposite! And to those conflicted on the issue: Please
spare us the "shouldn't question" syndrome.
Anonymous | 12:54 p.m. Nov. 2, 2009
What is the big deal? If they want to expose their kids to a deadly disease
then it is Darwanism in action. I think it's pretty cool that the Prays
like to gamble using their children.
Anonymous | 12:55 p.m. Nov. 2, 2009
I am so glad so many people are opening there eyes and there minds to the fact
that government cant help them. near as much as they can help themselves.
Thankyou for waking up people, thankyou for seeing government does not always have your best interest in mind.
Awsomeron please reread the constitution, or go live in a country that does not believe in WE THE PEOPLE.
Thankyou for waking up people, thankyou for seeing government does not always have your best interest in mind.
Awsomeron please reread the constitution, or go live in a country that does not believe in WE THE PEOPLE.
JoanneO | 12:58 p.m. Nov. 2, 2009
No vaccine here. We have MMS and collodial silver. Have all ready used MMS
very successful. Both kill pathogens, all without killing friendly microbes in
gut. Both available online. There are other things to use also...no need for
vaccine.
Your Wrong | 1:06 p.m. Nov. 2, 2009
Okay, using the logic that kids are dying and you are stupid for not getting the
flu shot.... well how about this
Driving in cars kills people, you are at more risk of dying in a car then the swine flu, so you are stupid and it is child neglect to allow them to ever get in a car
See how bogus your logic sounds... you would think it unwise to avoid cars I assume, same thing with the swine flu... there are things you can do to help not get as sick, but until they can tell me why the sudden increase in ADHD, autism, allergies, and Asthma, then I will let you other guys test out the long term effects of vaccines.
Driving in cars kills people, you are at more risk of dying in a car then the swine flu, so you are stupid and it is child neglect to allow them to ever get in a car
See how bogus your logic sounds... you would think it unwise to avoid cars I assume, same thing with the swine flu... there are things you can do to help not get as sick, but until they can tell me why the sudden increase in ADHD, autism, allergies, and Asthma, then I will let you other guys test out the long term effects of vaccines.
Some facts | 1:08 p.m. Nov. 2, 2009
People concerned about the vaccine containing thimerosal, a preservative that
contains mercury and that has long been the subject of suspicion without a lot
of scientific support. FDA regulations prevent adding thimerosal to primarily
pediatric vaccines. The H1N1 vaccine is not specifically formulated for
children, and the multidose version — but not the single-dose version
— does contain thimerosal. However, the CDC stresses that even flu
vaccines with thimerosal should pose no danger to children.
HarryL | 1:12 p.m. Nov. 2, 2009
I think it's insane. People are taking such a risk by not getting
vaccinated. Why not forget polio or rheumatic fever at the same time, or
tetanus? Like one comment person said, it is not just dying from this stuff that
is an issue, but the long term disabling effects.
The scriptures attest to a time, such as we are in, when there are going to be plagues.
Not taking this vaccine is like being in a battle with machine gun fire going all around and then standing up and thinking you are not going to get hit... well maybe you'll get shot in a way that knocks you backward and you fall stunned back in your foxhole, or maybe you take a flesh wound and survive; but maybe you get hit in the spine and it paralyzes you, or worse you simply get shot in a way where you are gurgling blood for the next 20 minutes knowing you are going to die, and if you had kept your head down in the first place you might not be going though this.
Why subject your family and loved ones to such risk? It's inviting tragedy.
The scriptures attest to a time, such as we are in, when there are going to be plagues.
Not taking this vaccine is like being in a battle with machine gun fire going all around and then standing up and thinking you are not going to get hit... well maybe you'll get shot in a way that knocks you backward and you fall stunned back in your foxhole, or maybe you take a flesh wound and survive; but maybe you get hit in the spine and it paralyzes you, or worse you simply get shot in a way where you are gurgling blood for the next 20 minutes knowing you are going to die, and if you had kept your head down in the first place you might not be going though this.
Why subject your family and loved ones to such risk? It's inviting tragedy.
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I do know one thing most people do not consider: vaccines do not reach maximum effectiveness unless enough people get it to produce "herd immunity." That principle adds something to the calculated pros/cons of vaccinations in general, H1N1 is no exception. This is one reason doctors will encourage everyone to get vaccinated (and get vaccinated themselves), the worries of laypeople notwithstanding.