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Poll shows most Utahns don't intend to get H1N1 vaccine
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I want one. | 11:13 p.m. Nov. 1, 2009
I'll take it. My buddy who is the toughest person I have ever met said this
flu was like having knives carving into his bones the pain was so great. He
spent days in hospital. I work in a school too. So, I'd be one to accept
it.
Joe Moe | 11:19 p.m. Nov. 1, 2009
Seems like right now this is kind of a moot point, since there's not enough
vaccine to go to those who DO want it. Talk to me again in a few months and
we'll see how things look then.
I do know one thing most people do not consider: vaccines do not reach maximum effectiveness unless enough people get it to produce "herd immunity." That principle adds something to the calculated pros/cons of vaccinations in general, H1N1 is no exception. This is one reason doctors will encourage everyone to get vaccinated (and get vaccinated themselves), the worries of laypeople notwithstanding.
I do know one thing most people do not consider: vaccines do not reach maximum effectiveness unless enough people get it to produce "herd immunity." That principle adds something to the calculated pros/cons of vaccinations in general, H1N1 is no exception. This is one reason doctors will encourage everyone to get vaccinated (and get vaccinated themselves), the worries of laypeople notwithstanding.
Anonymous | 11:21 p.m. Nov. 1, 2009
I do think that the Obama administration, by calling this a national emergency,
is using this to further the Obamacare bill. But informed people know that the
Swine flu is no more dangerous than other flus.
My brother-in-law, being a school teacher, has had the swine flu (at least that's what they told him) twice and so has my niece. My sister, who is pregnant, did not catch it from them.
I worry more about the vaccine, as I know people who have had bad reactions to other flu vaccines. And I also don't like to be told what to do by the government.
It irritates my that Sebelius said that they won't close down schools even if there is a lot of flu cases because then children won't have a safe place to go and won't be fed. She'd rather they all come down the the flu. I don't like how she thinks the schools should take over parental responsibilities. Is that the reflection of the Obama administration belief, that we need a nanny state?
My brother-in-law, being a school teacher, has had the swine flu (at least that's what they told him) twice and so has my niece. My sister, who is pregnant, did not catch it from them.
I worry more about the vaccine, as I know people who have had bad reactions to other flu vaccines. And I also don't like to be told what to do by the government.
It irritates my that Sebelius said that they won't close down schools even if there is a lot of flu cases because then children won't have a safe place to go and won't be fed. She'd rather they all come down the the flu. I don't like how she thinks the schools should take over parental responsibilities. Is that the reflection of the Obama administration belief, that we need a nanny state?
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Anonymous | 11:41 p.m. Nov. 1, 2009
I have no problem with those who choose not to get vacinated, but'd wish
pregnant women would chose to, since this virus is deadly. Youths are the ones
being hit the worst by the virus, and some are dying. this isn't the flu
hitting seniors and immune deficient people, it hits High School and College age
folks, those most difficult to convince they aren't 10 foot tall and
bullet-proof.
BUT YA AREN'T, take a little needle stick and have a good long life.
BUT YA AREN'T, take a little needle stick and have a good long life.
Um, I'll gladly take one | 12:42 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
But I'm not on the priority list. I've been getting flu shots for
years with much success. I got the regular flu shot in early october, but the
H1N1 has not been available to me yet.
I don't understand how people can start going all conspiricy theory about this and tie it to some evil plot from Obama. Then again, we americans just love to be afraid of everything- witness people in the heartland covering their entire house with plastic sheets after the anthrax attack in new jersey a few years ago.
If anything, this flu vaccine will be better than the regular flu shot because usually they try to predict what the virus will look like, but in this case they already know what the virus looks like.
The more people who get infected however, the more likely the virus is to mutate, so all of those refusing to get the shot increase the risk for those who do get the vaccine.
Quit being so paranoid about it, this process has been done successfully for decades. And if you refuse to get the shot and get super-sick, I don't feel bad for you.
I don't understand how people can start going all conspiricy theory about this and tie it to some evil plot from Obama. Then again, we americans just love to be afraid of everything- witness people in the heartland covering their entire house with plastic sheets after the anthrax attack in new jersey a few years ago.
If anything, this flu vaccine will be better than the regular flu shot because usually they try to predict what the virus will look like, but in this case they already know what the virus looks like.
The more people who get infected however, the more likely the virus is to mutate, so all of those refusing to get the shot increase the risk for those who do get the vaccine.
Quit being so paranoid about it, this process has been done successfully for decades. And if you refuse to get the shot and get super-sick, I don't feel bad for you.
Not Changing My Mind | 1:22 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
All my husband's co-workers have had H1N1 and so have many of my cousins
and their children. No one had any serious affects from getting sick...
IT'S JUST THE FLU NOT THE BLACK PLAGUE.
I'm not changing my mind about not getting this thrown-together vaccine. I'm not their lab rat.
I'm not changing my mind about not getting this thrown-together vaccine. I'm not their lab rat.
Meaningless poll | 3:56 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
With the priority list and lack of vaccine this poll seems a little moot and
useless. Even if the whole population were to want to be vaccinated there
isn't enough to do the job. By the time the vaccine does become available
it would be too late to stop any major outbreak.
Then there is the fact that this vaccine has not been proven as safe and tested properly for long term affects. If the flu is treatable without the vaccine that should be the priority of being prepared. Maybe hospitals should take it upon themselves to produce the vaccine as drug companies cannot keep up with the demand and time it takes to produce the vaccine. If immunizing everyone is a priority then government should damn the intellectual rights of drug companies so mass production and testing can begin.
Single, white, males that don't work with or around children are at the bottom of the list so they are left with the wait your turn until its available, maybe next spring.
Then there is the fact that this vaccine has not been proven as safe and tested properly for long term affects. If the flu is treatable without the vaccine that should be the priority of being prepared. Maybe hospitals should take it upon themselves to produce the vaccine as drug companies cannot keep up with the demand and time it takes to produce the vaccine. If immunizing everyone is a priority then government should damn the intellectual rights of drug companies so mass production and testing can begin.
Single, white, males that don't work with or around children are at the bottom of the list so they are left with the wait your turn until its available, maybe next spring.
Magna Ute | 5:46 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
Tell me where I can get one for myself and my children. We're waiting....
@anon 11:21 | 5:57 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
Since this disease has already killed more childen in the US than the regular
flu does using mostly the non-flu season for transmition for the year, you must
be ignorant. By the end of the year it will have snuffed out probably four times
as many kids as the typical flu does perhaps more as the flu season just
started.
Yes, regular influenza kills about 300,000 world wide according to estimates. Most of those flu deaths are in the developing world not the US. In the US it usually kills about 100 children. We are well over one-hundred kids dead due to this virus losing 19 more last week that had been confirmed. The problem is many were healthy before the disease snuffed them out. While many Utahns think it is a joke, please at least protect your children. Utahns say they care about kids. This is the sort of thing that will prove if they really do. Get your kids vaccinated.
Yes, regular influenza kills about 300,000 world wide according to estimates. Most of those flu deaths are in the developing world not the US. In the US it usually kills about 100 children. We are well over one-hundred kids dead due to this virus losing 19 more last week that had been confirmed. The problem is many were healthy before the disease snuffed them out. While many Utahns think it is a joke, please at least protect your children. Utahns say they care about kids. This is the sort of thing that will prove if they really do. Get your kids vaccinated.
Re: Anonymous | 11:21 p.m. | 6:23 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
Let me see.... it is bad that Obama has called this a national emergency, but it
is also bad that his administration is not calling for a shut down of schools if
there are a large number of flu cases (instead leaving it up to the school to
decide.) I think you have stretched your fear of President Obama a little too
far. My guess is that if one of your loved ones die from the H1N1 flu, you will
also blame him for that.
Don't want? | 6:40 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
Don't want or can't get? Since we can't reasonably get one yet, I
guess I didn't really want one after all.
Anonymous | 7:02 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
I love how everyone thinks they've had H1N1. It's much more likely
that the majority of those friends who "have had H1N1" actually had
the common cold.
As I understand it, there are several things that make H1N1 worse than the flu we typically see every year: the mortality rate is higher; it kills people who were in perfect health; our immune systems have no experience with it so the outbreak is expected to be much more wide spread than we typically see in flu season.
As I understand it, there are several things that make H1N1 worse than the flu we typically see every year: the mortality rate is higher; it kills people who were in perfect health; our immune systems have no experience with it so the outbreak is expected to be much more wide spread than we typically see in flu season.
Doug G | 7:07 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
Some see it as political. Some want god involved. Many are scientists, at the
'farmers almanac' level. It's no surprise the vaccine won't
go over well here.
Re: Not Changing My Mind | 7:11 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
Hurrah for the triumph of ignorance. There's plenty of evidence that shows
this is more deadly than regular flu--even if it's not black plague.
The vaccine is not thrown together but made in response to a new strain of virus--just like every year.
Apparently you are intimidated by people smarter than you and therefore you have to imply that they are conspiring to run an experiment on you rather than accept the clear evidence of science which you can't understand. Just keep spreading the ignorance & fear--that will help everybody!
The vaccine is not thrown together but made in response to a new strain of virus--just like every year.
Apparently you are intimidated by people smarter than you and therefore you have to imply that they are conspiring to run an experiment on you rather than accept the clear evidence of science which you can't understand. Just keep spreading the ignorance & fear--that will help everybody!
Utah Nurse | 7:27 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
It's their decision but judging from the lines and waiting, I'd say if
they don't want it, leave it for someone who does.
cb | 7:33 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
There is a simple and effective treatment for the flu. It is found at most
health food store and many grocery store. It is colloidal silver, my family uses
it and it shortens every cold or flu.
there is much more profit in pushing vaccines than a hundreds of years old treatment.
there is much more profit in pushing vaccines than a hundreds of years old treatment.
Pagan | 7:50 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
More for the rest of us. The one's who want to live.
H1N1 Hoax | 8:02 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
H1N1 the little flu that couldn't. Barely over 1000 deaths in the USA when
the normal seasonal flu takes out over 36,000.
complete hype!
complete hype!
Re. cb | 8:15 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
A vaccine is a prevention, not a treatment. Since you're fond of things
that are hundreds of years old, how about this: "An ounce of prevention is
worth a pound of cure."
Gerald Gudmundson | 8:25 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
I felt this article was sensationalism on the part of the Deseret News and KSL.
The H1N1 vaccine is not being made available, so what's the point? This is
like a survey that asks "How many Utahns are planning a trip to Ghana
tomorrow?"
Re: cb | 8:25 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
Actually, vaccines are a money-losing proposition for most pharmaceutical
companies. If they didn't get liability protection from Congress then most
wouldn't even bother making them; the potential financial risks are too
high.
And contrary to your anecdotal experience, objective studies have shown that colloidal silver is not very effective against bacterial and viral infections. But I'm willing to let you spend your money as you wish.
And contrary to your anecdotal experience, objective studies have shown that colloidal silver is not very effective against bacterial and viral infections. But I'm willing to let you spend your money as you wish.
Anonymous | 8:37 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
Why do so many refuse to be vaccinated when doing so might very well save lives?
-- Their own lives and many, many others.
As for the effectivenss of vaccines, consider the fact that they have eradicated diseases that were the scourge of mankind. Evidently, we're not sufficiently educating our population regarding their benefits.
As for the effectivenss of vaccines, consider the fact that they have eradicated diseases that were the scourge of mankind. Evidently, we're not sufficiently educating our population regarding their benefits.
relieved | 8:38 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
I'm so happy that people won't be getting the vaccine! Finally,
natural selection can weed out a few genetic throwbacks from the gene pool!
Obama Treatment | 8:50 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
No way I'll have the vaccine! Obama has cooked up the whole Swine flu deal
to distract us from his socialist agenda. They've put in a drug which will
soften our hearts toward his agenda. Utah is too smart and too American to fall
for this!
Poison | 9:11 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
Getting the H1N1 vaccine does not guarantee resistance to the virus and their
are so many potential side affects from the vaccine, it's just not worth
the risk. I for one, do not want mercury injected in my body, a poison which is
used as a preservative.
Do some research and decide for your self. Search for "Ten questions about flu vaccines that doctors and health authorities refuse to answer" by Mike Adams. Scarry...
Do some research and decide for your self. Search for "Ten questions about flu vaccines that doctors and health authorities refuse to answer" by Mike Adams. Scarry...
Science vs Talk Radio | 9:13 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
It cracks me up that so many people base their opinions about scientific issues
(vaccines and climate change, to name two) on what they've heard on TV and
talk radio, instead of on scientific studies. How many parents have taken an
actress' word over that of the medical profession's about autism, for
example? Kind of nuts, but hey, now I won't have to worry about a shortage
of the flu vaccine in Utah, so that's good news for me.
Hm. | 9:33 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
Everyone says that the people that are dying are healthy college/high school
aged people. Not so. I know several of my friends here at Utah State that have
been diagnosed with H1N1, but none have even been hospitalized, let alone died.
One of the doctors here has said that she had seen over 100 cases of H1N1 and
not one had to be hospitalized. I call BS.
The only people that are dying are those with preexisting respiratory conditions, overweight, etc. It ain't that bad folks.
The only people that are dying are those with preexisting respiratory conditions, overweight, etc. It ain't that bad folks.
@ H1N1 Hoax | 9:40 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
Your stats are true, but H1N1 has the potential to be much more deadly, and the
CDC is worried that there will be more than the 36,000 deaths during the flu
season.
My sister who is in great shape but who has asthma is in the hospital right now with H1N1. There are deadly consequences if you don't take this seriously.
Who benefits from the "hoax" anyway? I got a free vaccine from the health clinic...no one made any money from that. Your conspiracy theory makes no sense.
My sister who is in great shape but who has asthma is in the hospital right now with H1N1. There are deadly consequences if you don't take this seriously.
Who benefits from the "hoax" anyway? I got a free vaccine from the health clinic...no one made any money from that. Your conspiracy theory makes no sense.
Anonymous | 9:43 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
Most Utahns don't? Good, more for the sane people.
I'll pass | 9:50 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
All of the H1N1 vaccines that have been produced thus far contain thimerosal, a
preservative that's about 49% mercury by weight.
Like We Have a Choice? | 10:04 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
The government promised waaaaaaay more vaccine than they have been able to
deliver.
Surprise.
Get used to it.
When government passes the scam of a healthcare bill there will be alot more of the same over-promise and under-deliver scenarios to come.
Government, democrat or republican, fail at almost every thing they try and yet people sit idly by and do nothing while they try to take over another 1/6 of the economy.
Once they get this passed they will have unprecedented power to control so many aspects of your life by directly or indirectly tying it healthcare costs.
Oh sorry you will all need to eat this way or pay this extra tax. Oh sorry you will need to drive this fast and in this type of car because healthcare costs are higher when you don't.
Yada yada yada....
You get the picture...if you don't you are clueless.
Surprise.
Get used to it.
When government passes the scam of a healthcare bill there will be alot more of the same over-promise and under-deliver scenarios to come.
Government, democrat or republican, fail at almost every thing they try and yet people sit idly by and do nothing while they try to take over another 1/6 of the economy.
Once they get this passed they will have unprecedented power to control so many aspects of your life by directly or indirectly tying it healthcare costs.
Oh sorry you will all need to eat this way or pay this extra tax. Oh sorry you will need to drive this fast and in this type of car because healthcare costs are higher when you don't.
Yada yada yada....
You get the picture...if you don't you are clueless.
Anonymous | 10:06 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
Each time I've had a flu shot, I feel far more ill than I do when I
don't get one. I end up with colds every year, but I don't even
remember the last time I caught the flu. The last time I was seriously ill was
four years ago when I caught bronchitis, and before that, it'd been about
ten years since I had to go see a doctor because of illness. Aside from the
occasional bout of food poisoning, or maybe a migraine, I just don't really
get sick.
If the flu shots helped and didn't make me feel so awful, I'd get one every single year. But because there's no marked difference - at least in my experience - between getting one and not having it done, and when getting one makes me feel worse than not getting one, why would I?
If the flu shots helped and didn't make me feel so awful, I'd get one every single year. But because there's no marked difference - at least in my experience - between getting one and not having it done, and when getting one makes me feel worse than not getting one, why would I?
Anonymous | 10:09 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
Although I agree that there are risks to the vaccine, I have made the decision
to get it when it becomes available to me. I have had regular flu shots yearly
for many years and have not had any problems with them.
I respect the rights of individuals to choose whether or not the swine flu vaccine is appropriate for them and their families and hope everyone will be okay either way.
I sincerely hope that those who choose not to be vaccinated and become ill with swine flu (or other communicable diseases) will be unselfish and respectful of others and stay home so that we who are feeling more vulnerable will not be unnecessarily exposed to their germs. It’s the decent and responsible thing to do.
I respect the rights of individuals to choose whether or not the swine flu vaccine is appropriate for them and their families and hope everyone will be okay either way.
I sincerely hope that those who choose not to be vaccinated and become ill with swine flu (or other communicable diseases) will be unselfish and respectful of others and stay home so that we who are feeling more vulnerable will not be unnecessarily exposed to their germs. It’s the decent and responsible thing to do.
Anonymous | 10:23 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
Factcheck (dot org) has some interesting info about vaccines. For example, most
flu vaccines contain thermisol, a mercury compound used as an
antibacterial/preservative. Studies have shown thermisol is excreted more
quickly from the body than other types of mercury.
My son at BYU had the swine flu and is recovering. However I am anxiously awaiting flu vaccine for my older son who has had asthma since he was 1 yr old.
Utah has always been one of the states with high rates of health quackery and pyramid schemes.
My son at BYU had the swine flu and is recovering. However I am anxiously awaiting flu vaccine for my older son who has had asthma since he was 1 yr old.
Utah has always been one of the states with high rates of health quackery and pyramid schemes.
I want one | 10:39 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
This flu may not be often fatal, and perhaps there are some who don't get
very ill from it. But as I previously mentioned, the only person I know with a
doctor's diagnosed case of this flu was in such distress that he was in
tears. This same person blew out 2 backs discs simutaneously, and yet said the
flu hurt much worse. I'll definately get the vaccine when available.
The Facts | 10:46 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
Thermisol is found in most/all flu vaccines as an antibacterial/preservative
agent. Thermisol has been found to be excreted by the body faster than other
forms of mercury. People, get educated. Factcheck is an excellent resource for
sorting fact from fiction regarding vaccines as well as many other topics.
Another tip: 90% of the information sent via chain e-mails is wrong/false to a greater or lesser extent.
Another tip: 90% of the information sent via chain e-mails is wrong/false to a greater or lesser extent.
natty from texas | 10:51 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
Listen my friends. To each their own, but think about this. If it wasn't
too dangerous of a FLU to close the border, then it ain't dangerous enough
to stick a government needle in your arm.
Obama did it! | 10:53 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
You know, Obama created the H1N1 to further the citizens' requests for
government takeover of EVERYTHING. I thought the "Global Warming
fanatics" were the most uninformed group of people in the world until I
read the daily propoganda of the "Anti-Obama fanatics" If ignorance is
truly bliss, there should be a lot more happy people in Salt Lake City. Watch
out, Obama is a comin to getcha.
C. Darwin | 10:57 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
Can you say Darwin Award winning state?
Oh Please | 11:04 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
You haven't heard? Obama created the swine flu so he could force you to
take mind-control medicine!
Winners 09 Darwin Award are | 11:05 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
The 51% of Utah survey respondents who know better than "them over-educated
scientists" or think this is some kind of a government plot.
Anonymous | 11:06 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
If people want to get sick and die, that is their right. More stuff for the
rest of us.
Anonymous | 11:13 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
How many people have actually died from H1NI flu and not from having
pre-existing conditions?
Anonymous | 11:47 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
Everytime I have ever gotten a flu shot, I have gotten the flu. Every year I
have not gotten the flu shot, I have been heathly. I will not be getting
vaccinated.
Thermisol | 11:48 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
Thimerosal is the preservative of choice for vaccine manufacturers. Thimerosal
contains 49.6 percent mercury by weight and is metabolized or degraded into
ethylmercury and thiosalicylate. Mercury, or more precisely, ethylmercury, is
the principle agent that kills contaminants. Unfortunately, mercury also kills
much more than that.
The Department of Defense classifies mercury as a hazardous material that could cause death if swallowed, inhaled or absorbed through the skin. Studies indicate that mercury tends to accumulate in the brains of primates and other animals after they are injected with vaccines. Mercury poisoning has been linked to cardiovascular disease, autism, seizures, mental retardation, hyperactivity, dyslexia and many other nervous system conditions. That's why the FDA rigorously limits exposure to mercury in foods and drugs. Some common sources of mercury include dental amalgam fillings, various vaccines and certain fish contaminated by polluted ocean waters.
The toxicity of mercury has never been in question. The real question is precisely how much mercury-laced thimerosal is toxic, and what are the possible consequences for our children at low doses?
The Department of Defense classifies mercury as a hazardous material that could cause death if swallowed, inhaled or absorbed through the skin. Studies indicate that mercury tends to accumulate in the brains of primates and other animals after they are injected with vaccines. Mercury poisoning has been linked to cardiovascular disease, autism, seizures, mental retardation, hyperactivity, dyslexia and many other nervous system conditions. That's why the FDA rigorously limits exposure to mercury in foods and drugs. Some common sources of mercury include dental amalgam fillings, various vaccines and certain fish contaminated by polluted ocean waters.
The toxicity of mercury has never been in question. The real question is precisely how much mercury-laced thimerosal is toxic, and what are the possible consequences for our children at low doses?
Silly | 11:48 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
Yeah, I guess 2000+ shots going in under an hour and three-hour waiting lines
for the vaccine matter less than an opinion poll. Good grief, people. Do you
honestly need a news article to tell you all the things we learn as children?
And, honestly, leave Obama out of this. You ignoramuses need to get a life.
Anonymous | 11:50 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
My children have never reacted well to vaccinations. My little daughter
usually develops a high fever and is sick for days after vaccinations.
As such, we try to avoid vaccinating them unnecessarily. We have several friends and family who have had confirmed swine flu and everyone is fine. In addition, we had the flu but did not get tested to see which type. Our hope and assumption is that it was the swine flu and that we are now immune.
I stopped getting flu shots many years ago because every year I got them, I contracted the flu regardless. And the years I didn't get them, if I did get the flu, the doctors told me it wasn't covered in the flu shot anyway. So what is the point?
We ought to expect disease to act as a form of population control. So far this swine flu hasn't amounted to much but we'll see how the season plays out. What scares me more is that we develop a mentality of running to drugs for every little ailment. For all we know, we're slowly destroying human's natural immunities to many of these illnesses.
As such, we try to avoid vaccinating them unnecessarily. We have several friends and family who have had confirmed swine flu and everyone is fine. In addition, we had the flu but did not get tested to see which type. Our hope and assumption is that it was the swine flu and that we are now immune.
I stopped getting flu shots many years ago because every year I got them, I contracted the flu regardless. And the years I didn't get them, if I did get the flu, the doctors told me it wasn't covered in the flu shot anyway. So what is the point?
We ought to expect disease to act as a form of population control. So far this swine flu hasn't amounted to much but we'll see how the season plays out. What scares me more is that we develop a mentality of running to drugs for every little ailment. For all we know, we're slowly destroying human's natural immunities to many of these illnesses.
Here is the list | 12:02 p.m. Nov. 2, 2009
Let me start the list here of all the things that "scientists" were
"right" about.
Lets start near the beginning.
The earth was flat....and the list goes on from here.
How many times does it take to prove to you nitwits that scientists don't know everything?
These are the same scientists that produce "tainted" results in order to get funding to continue their "research".
You usually can find a scientist to say whatever you want.
We live in a free country, for the moment, and fortunately people can choose and quite frankly I don't care whether people choose to get the vaccine or not.
There are certain valid arguments on both sides based on documented experience and history.
How many scientific stories in the news have you read about the regular flu and how many deaths it causes every year vs. the swine flu?
Nobody seems to care that the regular flu kills way more.
Lets start near the beginning.
The earth was flat....and the list goes on from here.
How many times does it take to prove to you nitwits that scientists don't know everything?
These are the same scientists that produce "tainted" results in order to get funding to continue their "research".
You usually can find a scientist to say whatever you want.
We live in a free country, for the moment, and fortunately people can choose and quite frankly I don't care whether people choose to get the vaccine or not.
There are certain valid arguments on both sides based on documented experience and history.
How many scientific stories in the news have you read about the regular flu and how many deaths it causes every year vs. the swine flu?
Nobody seems to care that the regular flu kills way more.
Anonymous | 12:03 p.m. Nov. 2, 2009
"Anonymous | 11:13 a.m. Nov. 2, 2009
How many people have actually died from H1NI flu and not from having pre-existing conditions?"
3 million?
Do I get a prize?
How many people have actually died from H1NI flu and not from having pre-existing conditions?"
3 million?
Do I get a prize?
@Like we have a choice | 12:12 p.m. Nov. 2, 2009
The government is not the one making the vaccine, so let's not try to blame
them for the shortage in supply. The folks making the vaccine have to make
enough for the whole world. Remember, there are other countries out there
besides America. You sound like Cheney: If you don't have the facts, make
them up!
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- BYU records with win
- Police link alcohol to murder
- Jazz outlast Pistons in overtime
- Utah Utes whip SDSU
- Cougars turn focus to dreaded rivals
- Former BYU professor remembered
- Can BYU throw vs. Air Force?
- Y. coach Hill up for Portland State job
- Christian leaders not backing down
- Buttars wants to limit gay rights laws
193 - Palin plans tour stop in Utah173
- Glenn Beck to enter politics?156
- Palin's book shows she's unqualified122
- BYU records with win109
- Officer cleared in Cardall Taser case103
- BYU cuts Women's Research Inst.100
- Jazz finally win in San Antonio98
- Utes knock off rival Aggies93
- Huntsman pleased with Obama87
A little after midnight Wednesday morning, about 21 hours ago as I write...
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