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I was hoping | 11:37 p.m. Oct. 29, 2009

I was hoping this was going to say there were going to be on the field changes.

Maybe | 11:37 p.m. Oct. 29, 2009

I'd say move Robbie Buckner to safety. Shoot the guy impressed during Fall camp. That leaves Corby Eason to back up Brian Logan, and Lee Aguirre to back up Brandon Bradley. Then we've got a decent two deep at every secondary spot, and we get all the guys a chance to play instead of filling in too many guys at 1 spot.

Oh well | 11:47 p.m. Oct. 29, 2009

I was hoping there were going to be changes with some of our fans. They could become Ute fans and do us all a favor.
Go Cougs.

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needed change | 1:25 a.m. Oct. 30, 2009

With such an emphasis placed on spreading the ball around this year, BYU has not really used Jacobsen as much as his talents have warranted. The guy is money when involved in the offense. His yards per catch and TD ratio are commendable. Now that he looks to be back, they need to work him in the game plan more than just 2 or 3 plays a game. What a wasted year if they don't. Why does Harvey Unga come out of the game when it is 3rd down? I think he has great vision and good hands as well. Look at his receiving stats when he was a freshman. Lets not make it so obvious what the play is going to be. Rotate the backs with a little less predictability. Oh yeah, JJ should get a shot at returning punts too. Go Cougs

Coug in Aggieville | 7:04 a.m. Oct. 30, 2009

Amen to changes in the fans. I've driven down to 3 games this year and have been disappointed with the fans. Booing the coaching? Leaving midway through the 3rd quarter? Where's the fire? The bleacher seats were conspicuously fuller in the 4th quarter than the chair seats. The team deserves a more excited, commited crowd, not fairweather fans.

Anonymous | 8:33 a.m. Oct. 30, 2009

What a goofy year...with so much hype, our team is mediocore at best and I agree with the view on our fans....most need to get a life. I almost got hit by an upset fan after last weeks game. And in regards to our safety situation, I don't care how smart the guy is, get an athlete that is over six feet tall and can play football.

TYPICAL BYU | 8:53 a.m. Oct. 30, 2009

It is just another typical BYU football program. Win a few good games but lose the important ones. Bronco truly needs to look in the mirror on this identity issue. Conservative football is not why he was hired by Crowton to run his defense. It was because he can run a new defense that could surprise a bunch of teams. Think outside the box coaches and start playing smash mouth football.

Hey Bronco get out and recruit speed and if it means getting your hands dirty and butt sore from plane rides then do it. You are not going to find speed in the intermountain west or Hawaii. Come to Texas and get the Gary Patterson leftovers.

See ya next year Cougars.

Re: Oh well | 9:10 a.m. Oct. 30, 2009

Well, if you're talking about the disgruntled "lifetime BYU fans" who post comments here, then most of them already are Ute fans and they're just trolling for responses.

They'll shut up eventually, after the Utes get pummeled by TCU. Until then you'll just have to put up with them.

who cares about Football | 9:12 a.m. Oct. 30, 2009

Football is once again dead before thanksgiving thanks to the blowout with TCU. Bring on basketball.

Dixie Dan | 9:16 a.m. Oct. 30, 2009

News Flash to BYU recruiting: there are other schools to recruit from than Timpview.

Some... | 9:23 a.m. Oct. 30, 2009

Y fans need to get a life and stop posting ignorant comments on this page. You think you know football and how to coach it but most of you are arm-chair quarterbacks or Monday morning quarterbacks. Get over it! BYU lost to a superior team with better speed and more talent who executed very well all night. It was hard as a fan but four straight 10+ win seasons is amazing so be appreciative of what Bronco has brought to the program, not our program! Find a hobby people and go trick-or-treating with your friends.

Fan who leaves | 9:34 a.m. Oct. 30, 2009

Seriously, when BYU runs up the middle on a 3rd and 30 you think I should stick around and waste my time. By the end of the third quarter BYU had given up. If BYU isn't willing to play the entire game why should I stick around until the end.

Different Things? | 9:44 a.m. Oct. 30, 2009

Begin full-length practices in pads?

Bronco and his coordinators stay later than 6:00 PM to prepare a relevant game plan?

Start utilizing Unga and Manase to run up field?

Oh, you're talking about players spending time with their families? My bad, i thought BYU was going to do something to improve the football team's performance.

BYU & Utah are too complacent | 10:02 a.m. Oct. 30, 2009

BYU walked through the MWC two years in a row. Teams figured 'em out. They had to; BYU was dominating. But good teams are now able to capitalize on the complacency.

It's good to hear that Bronco is scouting his own team, because when teams pick up on your nuances you need to be aware of them too, in order to change things up. BYU will figure it out. It's not like they dropped off behind most of the conference teams like the Crowton years. Even when teams know what we are doing, we can beat most of them.

Just hope TCU and Utah coaches get as complacent as their fans, who think it is all about speed and athleticism. Just keep thinking that and running the same game plan. Utah won't even beat BYU this year, for all their talk about how bad BYU is. Athleticism only gets it done with a mature senior team (some of the time). Utah is neither athletic or mature. A good team like BYU will expose them (for the off-year team they are the next few years), but not before a great team like TCU embarrasses them too.

labman | 10:08 a.m. Oct. 30, 2009

there is more to life than football; that is what is said when the season turns to losing important games. It really looked like TCU wanted the game more and played with alot more passion and desire. It is hard to judge from the stands, but when the going got tough, no one on the cougar team got going. Ok, TCU was a better team, but we still should had been able to compete with them. BYU has stomped alot of lesser opponents too and squeaked out a good win now and then, but have failed to show us any "top 10" presence. Perhaps, like most MWC teams, 'top 25' is as good as it is going to get; granted 100 other programs would love to be there too, but we always seem to build ourselves up for something bigger when each season starts. who does the hyping? coaches? the media?, the players?, the fans? Had OK game not been won, none of this would have happened. Blame it on Oklahoma! With that said, I will always hope for the perfect season and the big win; I will keep the faith and hope the Cougs do too.

Practice | 10:19 a.m. Oct. 30, 2009

A weekend off during season. I am the hugest BYU fan out there, but, seriously, a weekend off "during season." I am about to lose my marbels over this one. On a positive note, I watched some video on Heaps this morning. I believe he really is "that good." Now, Cougs, please, please hit the jc ranks as hard as possible and get us some dbacks.

Old Cougar | 10:42 a.m. Oct. 30, 2009

Hey Scheesh...get a job or a education. I bet you have neither! Lets all get real, until the Cougars get speed, they will be behind the eight ball, so if they can do well with out speed, at least give them some credit. Actually, a running QB would make a difference. Maybe Riley will make a difference next year.

Moose on the Loose | 10:42 a.m. Oct. 30, 2009

Utah is going to kill BYU this year....again.

Confused | 11:23 a.m. Oct. 30, 2009

I thought BYU took last weekend off!

Moose | 11:34 a.m. Oct. 30, 2009

It is about time you see the light! Now don't be to upset with TCU going to the BCS, they are the best non-bcs team this year.

Seriously, people... | 12:07 p.m. Oct. 30, 2009

It's unbelieveable to me that anyone who critisized Cougar performance must be some UteTroll or some "fair weather fan." (Oh well @ 11:47 and his mentally equivelant brother, re: Oh well @ 9:10am)Are you freaking kidding me? You mean it's not possible for "lifelong fans" to actually look critically at the team and not like what they see? Is your faith so blind that you can't accept the possibility that a partisan can actually be objective without questioning their faith in something?

Pardon me, perhaps you'd rather see these sort of responses: "Well, I'm happy with a 9 - 3 record. Go Cougs - can't wait for that invitation to the bowl game no one cares about with the #7 team from some east coast conference." IMPRESSIVE, indeed, my friend. Have you always set your expecations so low or is this a new trend for you? Forgive me if I want my team to *WIN THEIR GAMES** and not be the poster child for pwnage on their OWN FREAKING TURF. I suspsect that you're the same fan who is satsified with the 17 March Madness invitation, only to lose in the first round **AGAIN**

Re: BYU & Utah are too complacen | 12:24 p.m. Oct. 30, 2009

You Cougar fans had the same comments last year after TCU spanked BYU 32-7. Your prediction was that TCU would destroy the Utes and then BYU would beat them soundly.

Turn the page to the next year. TCU spanks BYU and Cougar fans are predicting the Frogs will do the same to the Utes and the Cougars will beat the Utes in Provo soundly.

Funny thing is, Utah will compete with TCU because they have the athletes to do so. They will also beat BYU in Provo because of their superior defensive speed.

Keep telling yourself that fast, athletic defenses like Florida State, TCU and Utah aren't more effective than slower defenses. Denial will continue to keep you out of a BCS bowl game.

If you want to attract faster and more athletic players then lose the long, watered down grass. Your school recruits size over speed to go along with the natural grass.

Look for Utah to give TCU a close, competitive game. Also look for Utah to win again at LES.

The only team that BYU will embarrass is BYU.

Samurai Jack | 12:28 p.m. Oct. 30, 2009

Moose... just keep telling yourself that Utah will kill BYU.

Once TCU dismantles Utah, your bravado will take a serious hit.

TCU 31 Utah 3

Mikey | 12:34 p.m. Oct. 30, 2009

To 9:38 (ute troll) Even when half of us leave, we still have more fans out than the pewts on a good day unless their 7-0.

With as baddly as the team looked last week and how badly we were out coached, they should all be putting in over time not taking days off! This privelaged attitude should be reserved for extra efforts shown, not mediocrity. I'm still a fan but, there needs to be an attitude adjustment top to bottom.
30 years a coug.....

Before TCU there FSU | 12:47 p.m. Oct. 30, 2009

"Some" suggested that we need to "Get over it! BYU lost to a superior team with better speed and more talent who executed very well all night."

You were reffering to FSU right?

Mike Harris | 2:15 p.m. Oct. 30, 2009

BYU could become more than a mediocre team, but seems destined not to want too. Get rid of the Soviet Style "sign this or leave, and "tattle on your neighbor" Orwellian "honor" code, and become a university! No one should want to force people to pretend that belong to a faith they don't share, and Mormon kids deserve better. Even many LDS kids don't want to go to BYU *because* of the attitude and end up up the road at the U.

When I attended BYU in '84 Lavell had a lot more realistic attitude than that self righteous nonsense that goes on there now. I watched the TCU game online, narrated by some LDS kids awaiting mission calls. There were near pornographic ads scrolling by and TCU and general fans making comments, everything from "my Jesus is better than your Jesus", and BYU sucks [insert body part] but you know what? The kids handled it just fine. Anyone who thinks that they can protect kids by forcing them to sign a piece of paper is insane. All its doing is keeping us from being the team we could be.

Re: Mikey | 2:58 p.m. Oct. 30, 2009

Your team did deserve a day off. They competed as well as they possibly could against a far superior team. Remember, TCU is rated the 3rd best non-BCS program behind Utah and Boise State.

As far as your reference to the University of Utah's home attendance, the stadium will be expanded to handle the increasing numbers of season ticket holders. Your comment would have been more appropriate for the 1970s or 1980s.

50 years a Ute....

RE:Mikey ( Mouse) | 3:38 p.m. Oct. 30, 2009

The Red Blooded Team has sold out over 45,000 seats in the last ten games with an enrollment of 21,526 students.
YBU and the Blew Bloods has a capacity of 60,000+ with an enrollment of 34,244 students.
You do the math and tell me what does it matter when you sell out the Sugar Bowl in New Orleans and the Tostitas Bowl in Arizona, and then go on to win both games with a payout of over 31 million dollars. YBU received 750,000 for the embare assing loss at the Dust Bowl.
Now Mikey what's your point ? With the national cameras rolling film footage of YBU fair weather friends and their attend dunce crawling and cowering for the exits.
Population in the stands is about even per student capita .. so why did the Yners slither out of the stadium during the " College Game Day " program ?

Few True Utah Fans | 3:44 p.m. Oct. 30, 2009

It is always amazing how the so called
Ute fans are so caught up in BYU that they post on all the BYU articles. The truth is that there are very few Ute fans. If BYU dropped their sports programs the Ute fan base would not go up, it would go down. Most Ute fans only cheer for them because they hate BYU and that is the best outlet to show that disdain. If BYU was gone they would never step foot back inside a UofU sports facility. In state players that chose to play for Utah would go somewhere else if BYU wasn't around to play against. Fact is the Utes are only who they are because of BYU and with out the Cougars they would be faced with the fact that they are a bad program with a couple dozen fans. Oh, and please, the MUSS (mighty utah sissy section)? Thats like a bike rider calling his moped a HOG. When your student section jumps from 4000 to 15000 like BYU's than feel free to call yourselves mighty.

Love It | 3:44 p.m. Oct. 30, 2009

Love how BYU "fans" have now taken to labeling thier compatriots who express the slightest disagreement with things related to the hallowed BYU programs as Ute trolls, etc., etc.

Sweet.

Tailormade | 4:00 p.m. Oct. 30, 2009

to Re: Mikey @ 2:58. Utah, the first or second best non BCS program? hahaha. Boise State needs more than 5 years to be talked about like that as well.
More than one win against a quality BCS program would maybe qualify you. But one win in the Sugar Bowl against an uninterested team does not make you a great program.
Try scheduling high end BCS opponents during the regular season and we will talk about where you are as a program. Michigan twice in the last ten years does not qualify you. You can't even get a home and home. 50 years as a Ute had to suck during the 70's 80' and 90's.
When you wake up from your nap, call the hill and find out about your expansion. Until your fans support is year in and year out, that is not going to happen.

RE:@3:38 | 4:22 p.m. Oct. 30, 2009

Learn to spell. (Mikey has nothing to do with mouse.)Game day was ESPN packed up and long gone before anyone thought about leaving LES.
Apparently every seat in those to venues had pewt butts in them? Try again, but thanks for the cash. As long as your having a good time with your math skills, get a hold of the net amounts paidout to all MWC schools. It really mattered very little, bottom line, who went where. Not sure what your point is either, but really don't care. Also, what game had national cameras running? I must have missed something. However, the sorry excuse for coverage the MWC has, probably does cover the pewt nation as you know it.

22 Fumbles | 4:36 p.m. Oct. 30, 2009

That is all.

Re; Re: BYU and Utah are too | 5:06 p.m. Oct. 30, 2009

Hey, 2008 was last year. Most of the players who made Utah's season special are gone.

The sad truth is the Utes still haven't beaten a team with a winning record so far this season (Air Force is at .500). The combined record of their losing opponents to date is an intimidating 15-29, and they looked horrible beating them.

The only good team they've played so far is Oregon, who beat the Utes even after gift-wrapping 4 turnovers for them.

Utah's offense could barely generate 267 yards last week against an Air Force defense that although is pretty good is not in the same league as TCU's. Last year's Utes could only manage 13 points against TCU at home; this year's Utes will be hard-pressed to score more than 7 in Fort Worth.

Last year was last year. You Ute fans can dream about how you're going to beat the Frogs again, but I highly doubt the TCU kicker is going to accomodate you and miss three easy field goals like he did last time.

Just compete | 5:33 p.m. Oct. 30, 2009

Fans just expect a solid effort. Losing by 30 points is not a good effort in anybody's book. Sure TCU is better, but not 30 points better. Outcoached by a mile by TCU.

Don | 6:50 p.m. Oct. 30, 2009

Doing Things Differently:

1. Start by winning the coin toss and TAKING THE BALL! Make the opponent play catch up first!

2. Take the ball, the defense is not so good as to warrant the respect given! BYU's not the Bears defense that won Super Bowl 20 and could afford to defer to the second half!

3. Take the ball when winning the coin toss! Its the only way in a error free game(haha not this year) to guarantee the possibility of one more possession than the opponent!

4. Take the ball if winning the toss! It gives the defense a few extra minutes to pray before being obliterated by the opposition!

5. Take the ball when winning the coin flip. It allows for a chance at more possession time!

6. Listen to Coach Lou Holtz! He's won the big one! TAKE THE BALL FIRST WHEN THE CHANCE ARISES! Then when you score and the defense comes out to play BLITZ like there's no tomorrow and take the ball back!! Watch the good teams from the past like the Steelers and Packers, Bears and Broncos thats what they did! ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK!! That fires up winners!

Help me out BYU fans... | 7:05 p.m. Oct. 30, 2009

Bronco stated:
- Football is priority #5 (2008)
- Ten wins is enough (2008)
- BYU fans are uneducated (2009)

You people bought into the philosophy Bronco pitched. Whose fault is this mess? Bronco's or BYU fans'??

Either way, you buy into the philosophy and accept losses or push for wins and force a strategy change. You can't have it both ways. Make a choice and accept the consequences. Bronco has been straight up with you...you have to decide what you really want.

re: Re; Re: BYU and Utah are too | 7:08 p.m. Oct. 30, 2009

Interesting. Has BYU beaten a team that has won most of it's games? Oklahoma maybe. They were .500 the last time I looked. I really don't think BYU has anything to brag about as far as victories over competition. Probably a good reason they are not ranked.

Concerned Ticket Holder | 7:19 p.m. Oct. 30, 2009

I was hoping Bronco was going to step aside.

Few True Utah Fans | 7:34 p.m. Oct. 30, 2009

teams become good and then rebuild. BYU was good under Beck his senior year and had a veteran defense during Max Hall's first year. TCU was stronger and faster during those years as well, yet BYU beat them. I think the false sense of security was thinking that Max was going to be as good or better then Beck. He is not. He does not have the poise nor does he see the field as well and he struggles to keep his emotions under check. Our defense does not have as good of personel as they did Beck's senior year or Max's first. Because our defense is not strong at this point Max's imperfections are more exposed. TCU is showing this year and last what can be done with veteran players. However, TCU will be much younger and inexperienced next year (as will BYU) and will lose some games because of it. BYU will be back. Unfortunately the players we are relying on to be leaders are not as good as expected.

Re: Moose on the Loose | 7:49 p.m. Oct. 30, 2009

Yeah? With what playmakers? Terrance Cain definitely isn't one.

The only really good player on the your team this year is Robert Johnson, and he got trucked by Harvey Unga.

David Reed and Eddie Wide are half decent players. Jereme Brooks can make plays sometimes.

That basically sums up Utah's team this year.

Re: BYU and Utah are too | 7:54 p.m. Oct. 30, 2009

BYU fans' jealousy is bitter sweet!!!

Head to Head | 8:07 p.m. Oct. 30, 2009

Utah 35 Utah St. 17------ BYU 35 Utah St. 17
Even
Utah 24 Col St. 17------- BYU 42 Col St. 23
Advantage BYU
(Remember as well that Utah had to score late to win the game. BYU controlled the game throughout).

Utah 35 UNLV 15--------- BYU 59 UNLV 21
Advantage BYU

This does not translate over to the BYU/Utah game but is just to show that if Ute fans want to talk about BYU then lets look at how each team has performed against the same competition. BYU clearly played much better. Even the Utah win over Utah State (wich I called as even), Utah had to play the entire game because utah state scored 17 first half points puting pressure on the Utes. BYU was in control the entire game and could have run the score up in the fourth but played back-ups. Utah State scored a late touchdown on a defense that was primarily BYU's back-ups as well. BYU is not a great team this year but they are certainly good enough to throttle Utah. Isn't amazing that Ute fans brag about TCU because they have nothing to brag about this year.

Re: Tailormade | 8:50 p.m. Oct. 30, 2009

When YOU wake from your nap try listening in on national sports (i.e. outside the bubble you live in). The national media rated the top three non-BCS, not me. 1. Utah, 2. Boise State and 3. TCU.

As far as my 50+ years as a Utah fan, I've enjoyed every minute of it. Season tickets in basketball and football have provided many wonderful times. Utah has more than three times the NCAA tournament wins as the TDS and has a winning bowl record. FYI, your team has a losing bowl record.

Keep living your life in the 70s and 80s! Your claim to fame was dominating a down Utah football program I guess. Those days are long gone my friend.

Ummm, as far as contacting the hill regarding expansion.... maybe that would be a great exercise for you to do since I already know the plans.

Enjoy your bitterness and envy! Go Utes!!

Re: Re; Re: BYU and Utah are too | 9:17 p.m. Oct. 30, 2009

Yes, Utah's opponents they have defeated have a combined 15-29 record. Do you realize that BYU's opponents they have defeated have a combined 17-27 record? Is that a huge difference in your eyes?

The #10 team in the BCS rankings defeated the Utes ending the longest winning streak in the country by the score of 31-24 on their field. First downs were the same and total yards within 15 yards. Both teams had turnovers.

"The sad truth" is BYU's claim to fame was beating a 4-3 Oklahoma team that isn't ranked in any poll. Have you overlooked the fact that your team lost 54-28 at home to a 3-4 Florida State team?

Yes, Utah lost several key players from the 2008 team but they still have enough talent to place them #16 in the BCS poll with a 6-1 record.

Ron | 9:39 p.m. Oct. 30, 2009

TCU has won with a coach that demands perfection. WE all need to learn from this. BYU and Utah are trying to figure this out year in and year out. We need to get rid of the mentality that kids get better with praise. They get better with disopline.........

Re: Re; Re: BYU and Utah are too | 9:48 p.m. Oct. 30, 2009

Nobody mentions the fact that Oklahoma's 3 losses were all to ranked teams by a combined 5 points. They played the #3 team in nation on the road and lost by 3 points. This despite not having their all american QB and Tight End for the majority of the season. Oklahoma is a very good team and a much better team then their record indicates.

Hey "Head to Head" | 9:50 p.m. Oct. 30, 2009

Thanks for your warped perspective!

So we have nothing to brag about this year? How about our #16 BCS ranking and 6-1 record? We were defeated by the 1st place team from the PAC-10 who is ranked #10 in the BCS.

Since you singled out the USU game as a comparison let me say this... I watched both games and BYU did NOT play their 2nd team during the game. Let's compare some stats:

First Downs: Utah 27, USU 13.
First Downs: BYU 22, USU 20.

Utah outgained USU by 177 yards.
BYU outgained USU by 109 yards.

Please take off your royal blue shades, it may help you be more realistic.

last but not least... | 10:34 p.m. Oct. 30, 2009

If the U of U could be consistent i.e win ten plus games a year for four years. We shall consider you a program.
Until then keep looking at our stories and headlines.

Yours truly:
The national media.

Nuff said.

Re: last but not least... | 10:3 | 11:34 p.m. Oct. 30, 2009

That's lame. Ten plus wins four years running? I think it's three years running because this season isn't over.

The schedule BYU plays ensures a 10 win season. Where did 10+ wins come from? When, in the last three years, did tds win more than 10?

As far as the national media goes...tds is irrelevant. tds stories and headlines are irrelevant. tds does not set the criteria for a good program. tds is irrelevant.

Keep wondering what it would be like to represent the MWC in a BCS game, tds. In the interim, just stand in the charity line with your greedy hand out for the $1M that comes in from the MWC leadership teams.

Best,
Utah/TCU

Nuff said...

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