I would love to have BYU win every game they play, but they don't have to. I
would love to have our Cougars in a BCS bowl, but they don't have to. I would
love to have BYU win the conference every year, but they don't have to.I do want to see BYU play and put up a great fight against quality teams
inside and outside of the MWC.When not playing against BYU, I like
to see TCU get ranked as high as possible. The same goes for Utah. When not
playing against BYU, I want them to win every game they play.I would
love to have Boise State in the Mtn West Conference. I would like to have BYU,
Utah, TCU and Boise State be the big 4 in our conference to replace the Big 3
that we now have. I would like to have, for the big four, nobody except BCS
teams as our non conference games and let Air Force each year, have Navy, Army,
Citadel, be their non conference games, while the rest of the conference play
WAC or C-USA for their non conference games.
"Coach Bronco Mendenhall said during the week he did some self-scouting and
broke down film of certain plays, schemes and strategies that the Cougars have
used through the first eight games of the season."And oh, by the
way, "BYU has also done some work on its next opponent, Wyoming."This is after and/or during all the time off for physical/mental healing
from the TCU loss.Oh Well, Wyoming is not all that important! Did
anyone watch the Wyoming/Utah game Saturday night?When will winning
ever be important to the coaching staff at BYU?
I am still a 100% calling BYU games for the past three years. Amazing i tell
you. So i will tell you this. yes, BYU will beat Utah this year. that's an
easy one. An even easier pick is the crushing TCU will put on Utah (ref, the
TCU/UNLV game, same overwhelming win). Utah will have a rather bad ending to
their year. Thankfully, BYU will now win out. And its off to the LV Bowl,
AGAIN. TCU is off to their first BCS, (and they will likely win it, unless they
play Florida, but they won't) and much deserved. They are as good as their
record states. I knew they would be before their first game. No surprise
What, Bronco will wake up? Or BYU will learn how to play defense?
Well, well, well...CaliCoug is back. Is that really you? Did you change your
name to Cal Coug? I am going to assume you have. You made a post (rant) on
September 21st where you offered to show the math on BYU's successful ROI.
Remember? I'm still waiting to see it Cal Coug (CaliCoug). Your math should
reflect the $2m BYU has been given by the University of Utah, the expenditure on
the grass field that is all torn up, etc. Either show your
brilliant or post an apology for your disrespectful comments...if, of course you
are/were CaliCoug. Come on, man up.
I read a comment that said Oklahoma lost to 3 ranked teams. In reality, they've
only lost to 2 ranked teams and one team that is not ranked. BYU is not ranked.
Cal Coug.... their our biggest rival. Just another "state college"? Well, I
guess, I mean if that's your take. Really boring, you must be the life of your
family home evening. There was high expectation for this BYU team, with a win
against Oklahoma in ?TEXAS?, but with a loss against Florida St. and TCU, it has
become a reality that this team might get to play in the Las Vegas bowl for the
4-5 time I think. Ute fan is getting used to playing in BCS bowl games.
Something that has eluded BYU for sometime now. In fact, when was the last time
BYU even played in a BCS bowl game? The Utes with a great coaching staff,
"better than anybody thought he'd be" QB, have a great future coming up. As for
BYU, it's program will be starting over again next season. There's nothing wrong
with rivalry, some of the blogs on here are very amusing. Cheers
After reading the posts it is clear that BYU is the only team Utah fans can
think about. As an out of stater, Utah is just another state college, nothing
Doesn't it seem like these guys should be working harder rather than taking a
break? Hmmm ...
There is not a football fan in the country who would trade the 2 great undfeated
season, etc. produced by Urban and Whitt for your 10 win seasons.Consistent and proven improvement moving forward is worth more than your blown
"Quests" and the 2 blow-outs you boys are licking your wounds from this year!!
LOLHave a grat BYE, BYE weekend.
Ant that's a guarantee.
I matters not if Utah/BYWHO/or anyone else wins.What matters is BYU
looking badly. Considering this past few weeks it's been a very successful
season. Way to go Cougars. The entertainment value is exceptional!!!!!!!!
All of this talk about Utah instead of Wyoming is worrisome. Who was it that
said, "Every Underdog is Dangerous"? All of the talk is about
taking time off away from football to do other things. This is worrisome. We are still talking about looking at our own films that we have already
played instead of looking at all the films that Wyoming has already played.
This is worrisome. If we think that our #7 Cougars losing to a #22
Florida State was a shocker, and if we thing that our #16 Cougars losing to a
#10 TCU was a brain blower, then think of what it will be like if our #26
Cougars loses to an unranked team around 100, Wyoming? A well
coached team gets better with each game played. What does it mean when #7 goes
to #16 and #16 goes to #26?What does it mean, when after the first
game, we have not looked good vs. any quality team, even those ranked well below
us?When will football at BYU be important enough to raise it's value
above #5 or 6 or 7, if even for just the four months?
That's lame. Ten plus wins four years running? I think it's three years
running because this season isn't over. The schedule BYU plays
ensures a 10 win season. Where did 10+ wins come from? When, in the last three
years, did tds win more than 10? As far as the national media
goes...tds is irrelevant. tds stories and headlines are irrelevant. tds does
not set the criteria for a good program. tds is irrelevant.Keep
wondering what it would be like to represent the MWC in a BCS game, tds. In the
interim, just stand in the charity line with your greedy hand out for the $1M
that comes in from the MWC leadership teams.Best,Utah/TCUNuff said...
If the U of U could be consistent i.e win ten plus games a year for four years.
We shall consider you a program. Until then keep looking at our stories
and headlines.Yours truly: The national media.Nuff
Thanks for your warped perspective!So we have nothing to brag about
this year? How about our #16 BCS ranking and 6-1 record? We were defeated by
the 1st place team from the PAC-10 who is ranked #10 in the BCS.Since you singled out the USU game as a comparison let me say this... I
watched both games and BYU did NOT play their 2nd team during the game. Let's
compare some stats:First Downs: Utah 27, USU 13.First Downs:
BYU 22, USU 20.Utah outgained USU by 177 yards.BYU outgained
USU by 109 yards.Please take off your royal blue shades, it may help
you be more realistic.
Nobody mentions the fact that Oklahoma's 3 losses were all to ranked teams by a
combined 5 points. They played the #3 team in nation on the road and lost by 3
points. This despite not having their all american QB and Tight End for the
majority of the season. Oklahoma is a very good team and a much better team then
their record indicates.
TCU has won with a coach that demands perfection. WE all need to learn from
this. BYU and Utah are trying to figure this out year in and year out. We
need to get rid of the mentality that kids get better with praise. They get
better with disopline.........
Yes, Utah's opponents they have defeated have a combined 15-29 record. Do you
realize that BYU's opponents they have defeated have a combined 17-27 record?
Is that a huge difference in your eyes?The #10 team in the BCS
rankings defeated the Utes ending the longest winning streak in the country by
the score of 31-24 on their field. First downs were the same and total yards
within 15 yards. Both teams had turnovers."The sad truth" is BYU's
claim to fame was beating a 4-3 Oklahoma team that isn't ranked in any poll.
Have you overlooked the fact that your team lost 54-28 at home to a 3-4 Florida
State team?Yes, Utah lost several key players from the 2008 team but
they still have enough talent to place them #16 in the BCS poll with a 6-1
When YOU wake from your nap try listening in on national sports (i.e. outside
the bubble you live in). The national media rated the top three non-BCS, not
me. 1. Utah, 2. Boise State and 3. TCU.As far as my 50+ years as a
Utah fan, I've enjoyed every minute of it. Season tickets in basketball and
football have provided many wonderful times. Utah has more than three times the
NCAA tournament wins as the TDS and has a winning bowl record. FYI, your team
has a losing bowl record.Keep living your life in the 70s and 80s!
Your claim to fame was dominating a down Utah football program I guess. Those
days are long gone my friend.Ummm, as far as contacting the hill
regarding expansion.... maybe that would be a great exercise for you to do since
I already know the plans.Enjoy your bitterness and envy! Go Utes!!
Utah 35 Utah St. 17------ BYU 35 Utah St. 17
EvenUtah 24 Col St. 17------- BYU 42 Col St. 23
Advantage BYU(Remember as well that Utah had to score late to win the
game. BYU controlled the game throughout).Utah 35 UNLV 15---------
BYU 59 UNLV 21 Advantage BYUThis does not
translate over to the BYU/Utah game but is just to show that if Ute fans want to
talk about BYU then lets look at how each team has performed against the same
competition. BYU clearly played much better. Even the Utah win over Utah State
(wich I called as even), Utah had to play the entire game because utah state
scored 17 first half points puting pressure on the Utes. BYU was in control the
entire game and could have run the score up in the fourth but played back-ups.
Utah State scored a late touchdown on a defense that was primarily BYU's
back-ups as well. BYU is not a great team this year but they are certainly good
enough to throttle Utah. Isn't amazing that Ute fans brag about TCU because
they have nothing to brag about this year.
BYU fans' jealousy is bitter sweet!!!
Yeah? With what playmakers? Terrance Cain definitely isn't one. The
only really good player on the your team this year is Robert Johnson, and he got
trucked by Harvey Unga.David Reed and Eddie Wide are half decent
players. Jereme Brooks can make plays sometimes.That basically sums
up Utah's team this year.
teams become good and then rebuild. BYU was good under Beck his senior year and
had a veteran defense during Max Hall's first year. TCU was stronger and faster
during those years as well, yet BYU beat them. I think the false sense of
security was thinking that Max was going to be as good or better then Beck. He
is not. He does not have the poise nor does he see the field as well and he
struggles to keep his emotions under check. Our defense does not have as good
of personel as they did Beck's senior year or Max's first. Because our defense
is not strong at this point Max's imperfections are more exposed. TCU is
showing this year and last what can be done with veteran players. However, TCU
will be much younger and inexperienced next year (as will BYU) and will lose
some games because of it. BYU will be back. Unfortunately the players we are
relying on to be leaders are not as good as expected.
I was hoping Bronco was going to step aside.
Interesting. Has BYU beaten a team that has won most of it's games? Oklahoma
maybe. They were .500 the last time I looked. I really don't think BYU has
anything to brag about as far as victories over competition. Probably a good
reason they are not ranked.
Bronco stated:- Football is priority #5 (2008)- Ten wins is enough
(2008)- BYU fans are uneducated (2009)You people bought into
the philosophy Bronco pitched. Whose fault is this mess? Bronco's or BYU
fans'??Either way, you buy into the philosophy and accept losses or
push for wins and force a strategy change. You can't have it both ways. Make a
choice and accept the consequences. Bronco has been straight up with you...you
have to decide what you really want.
Doing Things Differently:1. Start by winning the coin toss and
TAKING THE BALL! Make the opponent play catch up first!2. Take the
ball, the defense is not so good as to warrant the respect given! BYU's not the
Bears defense that won Super Bowl 20 and could afford to defer to the second
half!3. Take the ball when winning the coin toss! Its the only way
in a error free game(haha not this year) to guarantee the possibility of one
more possession than the opponent! 4. Take the ball if winning the
toss! It gives the defense a few extra minutes to pray before being obliterated
by the opposition!5. Take the ball when winning the coin flip. It
allows for a chance at more possession time!6. Listen to Coach Lou
Holtz! He's won the big one! TAKE THE BALL FIRST WHEN THE CHANCE ARISES! Then
when you score and the defense comes out to play BLITZ like there's no tomorrow
and take the ball back!! Watch the good teams from the past like the Steelers
and Packers, Bears and Broncos thats what they did! ATTACK ATTACK ATTACK!! That
fires up winners!
Fans just expect a solid effort. Losing by 30 points is not a good effort in
anybody's book. Sure TCU is better, but not 30 points better. Outcoached by a
mile by TCU.
Hey, 2008 was last year. Most of the players who made Utah's season special are
gone.The sad truth is the Utes still haven't beaten a team with a
winning record so far this season (Air Force is at .500). The combined record of
their losing opponents to date is an intimidating 15-29, and they looked
horrible beating them.The only good team they've played so far is
Oregon, who beat the Utes even after gift-wrapping 4 turnovers for them.Utah's offense could barely generate 267 yards last week against an Air
Force defense that although is pretty good is not in the same league as TCU's.
Last year's Utes could only manage 13 points against TCU at home; this year's
Utes will be hard-pressed to score more than 7 in Fort Worth.Last
year was last year. You Ute fans can dream about how you're going to beat the
Frogs again, but I highly doubt the TCU kicker is going to accomodate you and
miss three easy field goals like he did last time.
That is all.
Learn to spell. (Mikey has nothing to do with mouse.)Game day was ESPN packed up
and long gone before anyone thought about leaving LES. Apparently every
seat in those to venues had pewt butts in them? Try again, but thanks for the
cash. As long as your having a good time with your math skills, get a hold of
the net amounts paidout to all MWC schools. It really mattered very little,
bottom line, who went where. Not sure what your point is either, but really
don't care. Also, what game had national cameras running? I must have missed
something. However, the sorry excuse for coverage the MWC has, probably does
cover the pewt nation as you know it.
to Re: Mikey @ 2:58. Utah, the first or second best non BCS program? hahaha.
Boise State needs more than 5 years to be talked about like that as well. More than one win against a quality BCS program would maybe qualify you. But
one win in the Sugar Bowl against an uninterested team does not make you a great
program. Try scheduling high end BCS opponents during the regular season
and we will talk about where you are as a program. Michigan twice in the last
ten years does not qualify you. You can't even get a home and home. 50 years as
a Ute had to suck during the 70's 80' and 90's. When you wake up from your
nap, call the hill and find out about your expansion. Until your fans support is
year in and year out, that is not going to happen.
Love how BYU "fans" have now taken to labeling thier compatriots who express the
slightest disagreement with things related to the hallowed BYU programs as Ute
trolls, etc., etc. Sweet.
It is always amazing how the so called Ute fans are so caught up in BYU
that they post on all the BYU articles. The truth is that there are very few Ute
fans. If BYU dropped their sports programs the Ute fan base would not go up, it
would go down. Most Ute fans only cheer for them because they hate BYU and that
is the best outlet to show that disdain. If BYU was gone they would never step
foot back inside a UofU sports facility. In state players that chose to play for
Utah would go somewhere else if BYU wasn't around to play against. Fact is the
Utes are only who they are because of BYU and with out the Cougars they would be
faced with the fact that they are a bad program with a couple dozen fans. Oh,
and please, the MUSS (mighty utah sissy section)? Thats like a bike rider
calling his moped a HOG. When your student section jumps from 4000 to 15000 like
BYU's than feel free to call yourselves mighty.
The Red Blooded Team has sold out over 45,000 seats in the last ten games with
an enrollment of 21,526 students. YBU and the Blew Bloods has a capacity
of 60,000+ with an enrollment of 34,244 students. You do the math and tell
me what does it matter when you sell out the Sugar Bowl in New Orleans and the
Tostitas Bowl in Arizona, and then go on to win both games with a payout of over
31 million dollars. YBU received 750,000 for the embare assing loss at the Dust
Bowl. Now Mikey what's your point ? With the national cameras rolling film
footage of YBU fair weather friends and their attend dunce crawling and cowering
for the exits. Population in the stands is about even per student capita
.. so why did the Yners slither out of the stadium during the " College Game Day
" program ?
Your team did deserve a day off. They competed as well as they possibly could
against a far superior team. Remember, TCU is rated the 3rd best non-BCS
program behind Utah and Boise State.As far as your reference to the
University of Utah's home attendance, the stadium will be expanded to handle the
increasing numbers of season ticket holders. Your comment would have been more
appropriate for the 1970s or 1980s.50 years a Ute....
BYU could become more than a mediocre team, but seems destined not to want too.
Get rid of the Soviet Style "sign this or leave, and "tattle on your neighbor"
Orwellian "honor" code, and become a university! No one should want to force
people to pretend that belong to a faith they don't share, and Mormon kids
deserve better. Even many LDS kids don't want to go to BYU *because* of the
attitude and end up up the road at the U.When I attended BYU in '84
Lavell had a lot more realistic attitude than that self righteous nonsense that
goes on there now. I watched the TCU game online, narrated by some LDS kids
awaiting mission calls. There were near pornographic ads scrolling by and TCU
and general fans making comments, everything from "my Jesus is better than your
Jesus", and BYU sucks [insert body part] but you know what? The kids handled it
just fine. Anyone who thinks that they can protect kids by forcing them to sign
a piece of paper is insane. All its doing is keeping us from being the team we
"Some" suggested that we need to "Get over it! BYU lost to a superior team with
better speed and more talent who executed very well all night." You
were reffering to FSU right?
To 9:38 (ute troll) Even when half of us leave, we still have more fans out than
the pewts on a good day unless their 7-0. With as baddly as the team
looked last week and how badly we were out coached, they should all be putting
in over time not taking days off! This privelaged attitude should be reserved
for extra efforts shown, not mediocrity. I'm still a fan but, there needs to be
an attitude adjustment top to bottom.30 years a coug.....
Moose... just keep telling yourself that Utah will kill BYU. Once
TCU dismantles Utah, your bravado will take a serious hit.TCU 31
You Cougar fans had the same comments last year after TCU spanked BYU 32-7.
Your prediction was that TCU would destroy the Utes and then BYU would beat them
soundly.Turn the page to the next year. TCU spanks BYU and Cougar
fans are predicting the Frogs will do the same to the Utes and the Cougars will
beat the Utes in Provo soundly.Funny thing is, Utah will compete
with TCU because they have the athletes to do so. They will also beat BYU in
Provo because of their superior defensive speed.Keep telling
yourself that fast, athletic defenses like Florida State, TCU and Utah aren't
more effective than slower defenses. Denial will continue to keep you out of a
BCS bowl game.If you want to attract faster and more athletic
players then lose the long, watered down grass. Your school recruits size over
speed to go along with the natural grass.Look for Utah to give TCU a
close, competitive game. Also look for Utah to win again at LES.The
only team that BYU will embarrass is BYU.
It's unbelieveable to me that anyone who critisized Cougar performance must be
some UteTroll or some "fair weather fan." (Oh well @ 11:47 and his mentally
equivelant brother, re: Oh well @ 9:10am)Are you freaking kidding me? You mean
it's not possible for "lifelong fans" to actually look critically at the team
and not like what they see? Is your faith so blind that you can't accept the
possibility that a partisan can actually be objective without questioning their
faith in something?Pardon me, perhaps you'd rather see these sort of
responses: "Well, I'm happy with a 9 - 3 record. Go Cougs - can't wait for
that invitation to the bowl game no one cares about with the #7 team from some
east coast conference." IMPRESSIVE, indeed, my friend. Have you always set
your expecations so low or is this a new trend for you? Forgive me if I want my
team to *WIN THEIR GAMES** and not be the poster child for pwnage on their OWN
FREAKING TURF. I suspsect that you're the same fan who is satsified with the 17
March Madness invitation, only to lose in the first round **AGAIN**
It is about time you see the light! Now don't be to upset with TCU going to the
BCS, they are the best non-bcs team this year.
I thought BYU took last weekend off!
Utah is going to kill BYU this year....again.
Hey Scheesh...get a job or a education. I bet you have neither! Lets all get
real, until the Cougars get speed, they will be behind the eight ball, so if
they can do well with out speed, at least give them some credit. Actually, a
running QB would make a difference. Maybe Riley will make a difference next
A weekend off during season. I am the hugest BYU fan out there, but, seriously,
a weekend off "during season." I am about to lose my marbels over this one. On a
positive note, I watched some video on Heaps this morning. I believe he really
is "that good." Now, Cougs, please, please hit the jc ranks as hard as possible
and get us some dbacks.
there is more to life than football; that is what is said when the season turns
to losing important games. It really looked like TCU wanted the game more and
played with alot more passion and desire. It is hard to judge from the stands,
but when the going got tough, no one on the cougar team got going. Ok, TCU was a
better team, but we still should had been able to compete with them. BYU has
stomped alot of lesser opponents too and squeaked out a good win now and then,
but have failed to show us any "top 10" presence. Perhaps, like most MWC teams,
'top 25' is as good as it is going to get; granted 100 other programs would love
to be there too, but we always seem to build ourselves up for something bigger
when each season starts. who does the hyping? coaches? the media?, the players?,
the fans? Had OK game not been won, none of this would have happened. Blame it
on Oklahoma! With that said, I will always hope for the perfect season and the
big win; I will keep the faith and hope the Cougs do too.
BYU walked through the MWC two years in a row. Teams figured 'em out. They had
to; BYU was dominating. But good teams are now able to capitalize on the
complacency. It's good to hear that Bronco is scouting his own team,
because when teams pick up on your nuances you need to be aware of them too, in
order to change things up. BYU will figure it out. It's not like they dropped
off behind most of the conference teams like the Crowton years. Even when teams
know what we are doing, we can beat most of them. Just hope TCU and
Utah coaches get as complacent as their fans, who think it is all about speed
and athleticism. Just keep thinking that and running the same game plan. Utah
won't even beat BYU this year, for all their talk about how bad BYU is.
Athleticism only gets it done with a mature senior team (some of the time). Utah
is neither athletic or mature. A good team like BYU will expose them (for the
off-year team they are the next few years), but not before a great team like TCU
embarrasses them too.
Begin full-length practices in pads? Bronco and his coordinators
stay later than 6:00 PM to prepare a relevant game plan?Start
utilizing Unga and Manase to run up field?Oh, you're talking about
players spending time with their families? My bad, i thought BYU was going to
do something to improve the football team's performance.
Seriously, when BYU runs up the middle on a 3rd and 30 you think I should stick
around and waste my time. By the end of the third quarter BYU had given up. If
BYU isn't willing to play the entire game why should I stick around until the
Y fans need to get a life and stop posting ignorant comments on this page. You
think you know football and how to coach it but most of you are arm-chair
quarterbacks or Monday morning quarterbacks. Get over it! BYU lost to a superior
team with better speed and more talent who executed very well all night. It was
hard as a fan but four straight 10+ win seasons is amazing so be appreciative of
what Bronco has brought to the program, not our program! Find a hobby people and
go trick-or-treating with your friends.
News Flash to BYU recruiting: there are other schools to recruit from than
Football is once again dead before thanksgiving thanks to the blowout with TCU.
Bring on basketball.
Well, if you're talking about the disgruntled "lifetime BYU fans" who post
comments here, then most of them already are Ute fans and they're just trolling
for responses.They'll shut up eventually, after the Utes get
pummeled by TCU. Until then you'll just have to put up with them.
It is just another typical BYU football program. Win a few good games but lose
the important ones. Bronco truly needs to look in the mirror on this identity
issue. Conservative football is not why he was hired by Crowton to run his
defense. It was because he can run a new defense that could surprise a bunch of
teams. Think outside the box coaches and start playing smash mouth football.
Hey Bronco get out and recruit speed and if it means getting your
hands dirty and butt sore from plane rides then do it. You are not going to
find speed in the intermountain west or Hawaii. Come to Texas and get the Gary
Patterson leftovers.See ya next year Cougars.
What a goofy year...with so much hype, our team is mediocore at best and I agree
with the view on our fans....most need to get a life. I almost got hit by an
upset fan after last weeks game. And in regards to our safety situation, I don't
care how smart the guy is, get an athlete that is over six feet tall and can
Amen to changes in the fans. I've driven down to 3 games this year and have
been disappointed with the fans. Booing the coaching? Leaving midway through
the 3rd quarter? Where's the fire? The bleacher seats were conspicuously fuller
in the 4th quarter than the chair seats. The team deserves a more excited,
commited crowd, not fairweather fans.
With such an emphasis placed on spreading the ball around this year, BYU has not
really used Jacobsen as much as his talents have warranted. The guy is money
when involved in the offense. His yards per catch and TD ratio are commendable.
Now that he looks to be back, they need to work him in the game plan more than
just 2 or 3 plays a game. What a wasted year if they don't. Why does Harvey Unga
come out of the game when it is 3rd down? I think he has great vision and good
hands as well. Look at his receiving stats when he was a freshman. Lets not make
it so obvious what the play is going to be. Rotate the backs with a little less
predictability. Oh yeah, JJ should get a shot at returning punts too. Go Cougs
I was hoping there were going to be changes with some of our fans. They could
become Ute fans and do us all a favor.Go Cougs.
I'd say move Robbie Buckner to safety. Shoot the guy impressed during Fall camp.
That leaves Corby Eason to back up Brian Logan, and Lee Aguirre to back up
Brandon Bradley. Then we've got a decent two deep at every secondary spot, and
we get all the guys a chance to play instead of filling in too many guys at 1
I was hoping this was going to say there were going to be on the field changes.