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Teens cited for rapping McDonald's order

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  • Ladymony
    Nov. 4, 2009 3:49 a.m.

    I can't believe that someone is making all of this out of 4 teens rapping an order! I worked in that industry for many years and I would have laughed it off and enjoyed the show before moving on. Too many times we let life make us bitter and tired of trying to do a job and we need to lighten up some. You can't say the rapping was inappropriate when the company puts out rapping commercials for its own products. Duh??!! I really wish I lived in a city where the biggest thing we had to call cops out for was a slight delay in a food order and rapping teens. I'll take that any day of the week! I could see if they were pushing people around or causing a disturbance of that nature, but not in using words. Like someone else said, I am sure that at 18 most of us were not poster children for the perfect adult and we all made some dumb choices, but if this is the dumbest choice they make on the way to adulthood... say a Thank You Lord!

  • To CB
    Nov. 3, 2009 10:03 a.m.

    I agree but these are Publik skool graduetes!

  • StevieWicks
    Nov. 3, 2009 9:56 a.m.

    Countless hidden camera shows where people just laugh off random things like ordering on beat are what taught these kids this would be okay, and if they'd had a camera it would have been, plus then we could see actual proof of who was more at fault. Weird to see that McDonald's has a CSI team ready to chase down rappers though. I miss Dave from Wendy's he would've handled things the right way- in monotone.

    Without all the facts too many assumptions are made about who was rude first (rapping isn't rude no matter how distasteful you may think it is), and how much they actually held up any line that may or may not have been accumulating. In the end both sides look idiotic due to this, and since I see McD's nearly every day and these kids never, the only REAL effect is more bad publicity for the super sizers.

    After Super Size me, these kids should make a movie called Rappy Meal.

  • CB
    Nov. 2, 2009 4:38 p.m.

    The real crime here is the awful grammar, spelling, and syntax used on this message board.

  • Dumb Parents
    Nov. 2, 2009 4:27 p.m.

    I can't believe parents defend this kind of disrespectful behavior. My parents would have made me apologize to the workers at McDonald's and given me some sort of punishment on top of that. What is wrong with parents these days?

  • Anonymous
    Nov. 1, 2009 11:49 p.m.

    It was a mistake to call police. The teens didn't break the law. Come on McDonalds, get a sense of humor. It took a lot of talent and creativity to be able to rap the order.

  • Annie Mouse
    Nov. 1, 2009 11:34 p.m.

    Could've been worse.

    They could've had their order filled and then had to eat it.

  • hapstadt
    Nov. 1, 2009 10:03 p.m.

    i need a double cheeseburger hold the lettuce! i hope they do it again.

  • Anonymous
    Nov. 1, 2009 4:54 p.m.

    These kids will be on Leno, John Steward and Letterman next week. Once more Utah looks moronic.

  • LAME!
    Nov. 1, 2009 4:34 p.m.

    People need to stop blaming the AFPD for giving out a lame citation and instead put all of their focus on the McDonald's Manager. I know from past experience that this woman calls the police all too often and exaggerates what she tells them. I was once at that same McDonald's with a bunch of friends and we were just being loud and social, just like any teenager would. As we were leaving the manager runs up to us and tells us that if we didn't leave soon she would call the cops. Just because a girl asked why she was calling them she grabbed her phone and followed us outside to get our licence plate numbers. She told the police that a bunch of teenagers were "fighting in her restaurant." Because of her misuse of law enforcement they wasted 7 cop cars on those of us who stayed behind, while others left the ridiculous situation. Needless to say, none of us got a citation, but taxpayer money was wasted and those police could've spent their time elsewhere had it not been for her.

  • sandy
    Oct. 31, 2009 7:32 p.m.

    The kids were wrong to be insensitive that their joke wasn't amusing to anyone. THey were wrong to speak disrespectfully and take offense that the store was offended.

    THe manager and the police overreacted.

    The parents are fools for trying to fight it, and not just paying the fine and letting the kids learn a good lesson.

  • Mormon Rap
    Oct. 31, 2009 4:34 p.m.

    The same thing happened to me. I watched the Youtube video "Mormon Rap" by Walter and Hayes Band and I was compelled to go the Taco Bell drive thru. When asked what I wanted to order I began saying "Mormon Mormon Rap do the Muh Muh Mormon Rap! Hey Brothers and Sister Listen too me. I'm talking to you religiously!"

  • HmMM
    Oct. 31, 2009 2:54 p.m.

    Maybe all you that think it was just fine for these juveniles to act this way, should give your work location. Then they can go to your business and do the same to you. I really wonder what your response would be.

  • Ernie
    Oct. 31, 2009 9:04 a.m.

    Two quick thoughts. First, the cops and the manager made too big of deal of the incident. Second, we as a society are not teaching our youth proper principles and manners.

  • Real Danger Huh...
    Oct. 31, 2009 8:21 a.m.

    Rapp music = violent dangerous youths

    therefor by that standard

    Country music = cheating lying adultering adults...

    Better not show up in a pickup, wearing boots, talking with a country accent. You might be charged with sexual harassment.

    It has been over twenty years since I lived in Utah valley.

    Beware my latin friends.... don't go to McDonalds in American Fork, who knows what you will be charged with.

    Silly Happy Valley.

  • Disorderly Conduct
    Oct. 31, 2009 7:57 a.m.

    "Cursing" is not disorderly conduct. This has been ruled by countless judges in countless court cases. Just cause some backwoods, redneck cop thinks it is doesn't make it so. These disorderly conduct citations prove the kids did nothing wrong, as no other citations were issued. Disorderly conduct citations are issued by cowards that want to flex some muscle.

  • anonymous
    Oct. 30, 2009 2:58 p.m.

    haha and to think this has already made national news! what next international? Go lone Peak! Glad to see teens are doing something that actually sounds really fun to do rather then drugs and alcohol. They were just being teenagers. loosen up here people. :)

  • Anonymous
    Oct. 30, 2009 12:18 p.m.

    I will eat lunch at this McDonalds for the rest of the year. They deserve my business.

  • Teach respect!!!
    Oct. 30, 2009 9:37 a.m.

    As the parent of 7 grown children I do not understand why parents defend their children when they are in the wrong. We should teach respect--not ignorance and then have parents defend bad behavior. Next time it could be more serious and the parents will have to suffer the consequences with their children.

  • valkyrie33
    Oct. 30, 2009 8:01 a.m.

    Totally unoriginal and sad. It figures the teens were from American Fork. Utah county is where originality goes to die.

  • Boycot
    Oct. 30, 2009 2:40 a.m.

    Seriously, McDonalds has wrong prices on menu so you'll be charged more than the menu states, upsells order without consent of customers, etc. Give someone else your money. Their service, and food is garbage. Terrible burgers. I am not sure how anyone can eat them. I tried, and now I go elsewhere.

  • Shame on us...
    Oct. 30, 2009 12:51 a.m.

    It's a shame the lack of respect people have for others. While listening to the radio, these delinquents where interviewed and never issued an apology. Their sorry excuse for swearing at the manager disgusted me! Is there no decency anymore in our society? Can't we expect more out of our 'teenagers'? I'm not going to give them a pass because they are just kids. Excusing behavior doesn't do them or anyone else any good. The fact is they offended the manager, disrupted their business, and should absolutely be punished for it! What a great lesson for them to learn. All of you who are so willing to condemn the police for taking action here are probably the same parents who allow their kids way to much leniency while dating, etc. It's no wonder why teen pregnancy is a serious problem in Utah.

    The best thing we can do for these kids is to make sure they know this type of behavior should not be tolerated! Respect for others and civility seems to be thrown out the window by many who should be teaching this to their children. We are better than this!

  • Anonymous
    Oct. 29, 2009 11:33 p.m.

    All you small minded people bashing American Fork and Utah, why don't you go to stories about your own city or state. You can search and find that ridiculous stories occur everywhere. I love living in American Fork! I agree the McDonalds manager and cop exercised no common sense in this situation and made a mountain of a mole hill, but the bigotry of stereotyping a city or state based on two stupid people is ridiculous. I'm pretty sure I could find two stupid people overreacting to petty things anywhere in the country, it's just that this one made the news.

  • to dingo
    Oct. 29, 2009 9:17 p.m.

    wow kids getting injured rapping at a drive threw what are you talking about what are they gonna do seriously. and they were not all 18 one of them was 18 the rest were 16. and mcdonalds just made itself a target to all the other teens. have fun with that

  • Behind the times
    Oct. 29, 2009 8:41 p.m.

    This rap has been running on YouTube for at least 2 year. I'm sure this isn't the first group to do it at a McDonalds drive in. May I make a suggestion, post the rap order in each Mcdonalds, so when the next group that comes through, the employee won't have to worry about understanding the rap, they can just fill the order, tell the customer how they owe much and expect them to pay for it. No misunderstandings, no holding up the line, and if they drive away without paying because they were just being funny, then you have a real reason to call the police. And since I wasn't there I will make no judgement about management, the young men, or the police.

  • Burger King Fan
    Oct. 29, 2009 7:18 p.m.

    Typical for McDonalds. They tend to act like they are the ohly fast food place, and you should be gratefull, that let you place a order. 4 kids out to get a meal and having fun, come on McDonalds lighten up.

  • A Utah "Torist"
    Oct. 29, 2009 6:36 p.m.

    Before singing, some people should learn to speak proper English. A few people in the American "Fark" area still throw apple "cars" out of the "core" window while on "tore". I have even heard of people putting "bat trees" in their flashlight.

  • Anonymous
    Oct. 29, 2009 6:20 p.m.

    This is absolutely ridiculous. I personally think that McDonalds is over reacting. It's NOT a big deal.

  • Can't blame the police
    Oct. 29, 2009 6:20 p.m.

    They were called and have to respond. If they didn't issue the citation they would have been wrong in the eyes of the business owner. This gives both parties a chance of being heard in court. That being said, I believe that the manager of the MacDonald's over-reacted. Heck, half the time I've gone through a Micky D's I couldn't understand the person taking the order!!!!! Maybe they should be cited then????

  • Anonymous
    Oct. 29, 2009 5:34 p.m.

    They should get an extra citation for how awful that rap was.

  • Yep
    Oct. 29, 2009 5:31 p.m.

    this is exactly the kind of criminal behavior the AFPD is looking for (because there is nothing else for them to do) SERIOUSLY...I was given a speeding ticket on the way home from Church on an old side road which nobody uses anymore, no cars, no houses I kind of wondered why the officer was even out there (maybe sleeping). I appreciate their duty but this is totally rediculous. There's lot of criminals in good ole AF, it's getting worse than Ogden....LOL

  • Chris
    Oct. 29, 2009 5:18 p.m.

    Utah! Utah! Utah!

  • Jordan T.
    Oct. 29, 2009 5:10 p.m.

    Things could have been a lot worse. Had this incident occured in a place like Compton or East Oakland, the cops would've had to deploy their Tasers and somebody might've gotten shot or something.

  • Anonymous
    Oct. 29, 2009 5:08 p.m.

    Why on earth, did a female manager feel it necessary to leave the store and confront the teenagers in their car? If it was that big a problem then just tell the boys over the microphone to leave now or you will call the police, don't go confront boys in the car and then expect them to be gracious and polite.

  • to JCS Imposter 1:20pm
    Oct. 29, 2009 5:06 p.m.

    I just wanted to thank you for that post. I've read enough of his posts to get it - I'm rolling on the floor - that was a good one - perfect impersonation!!

  • Anonymous
    Oct. 29, 2009 5:01 p.m.

    One thing no one seems to know or understand is that Lone Peak High School is in Highland! That means that the American Fork Police tracked the boys down in Highland, outside their jurisdiction! You cannot tell me that there were not some traffic violations going on in AF while the cops were in Highland pulling the boys out of the fieldhouse to cite them. Why did the AF cops not just look up the license plate number and call the house and tell the parents to bring their boy and his friends to the station?

    As far as fighting this ticket, the Dauwalders will fight it tooth and nail and probably win. They are that type of family. Oh and you can all stop any "Mormon stereotypes" the Dauwalders are not LDS and are very vocal about it.

  • R e s p e c t
    Oct. 29, 2009 5:00 p.m.

    Remember folks, this is a private property issue. If someone orders you off of their property for being disruptive you should leave.

    It does not matter what your age. If McDonald's wants to press charges against the adult in the group all they have to do is get the security video over to the investigating officer.

    Teach your children well...

  • The HAMBURGLAR
    Oct. 29, 2009 4:52 p.m.

    Why doesn't MacDonalds focus on the real criminal in their midst, the HAMBURGLAR. The Hamburglar always gets away.

  • To "Ridiculous | 3:00 p.m.'
    Oct. 29, 2009 4:48 p.m.

    Ridiculous | 3:00 p.m.

    You are aware that McDonalds didn't issue the citation, right?

    I'm glad I don't have the vindictive nature YOU have!

    You hope McDonalds goes out of business? And how many people lose their jobs? Just because the AF Police decided to issue a citation?

    McDonalds just told the police that they had some trouble with a pack of youths (which is a good thing, so the police know what's going on, in case these kids are running around doing this at a bunch of establishments, so they know it isn't the first time).

    All the manager did was let the authorities know what happend. Now the NEXT time these kids try something like this... there will be something in their record to tell the police that this isn't a one time thing but a pattern of behavior. If it becomes a pattern. But getting it on the record (the purpose of the citation) is important.

    They could have told the parents and let THEM take care of it, but obviously that would be useless in this case as the parents evidently encourage this behavior.

  • Anonymous
    Oct. 29, 2009 4:48 p.m.

    One of the kids was on the radio today admitting to the cussing so it was disorderly conduct. They need to order clearly or keep moving.

  • Give the citation to the parents
    Oct. 29, 2009 4:40 p.m.

    It's obvious by the parent's reaction why these kids behave the way they do.

  • Where's the parents?
    Oct. 29, 2009 4:22 p.m.

    These children need to spend more time at home with their mummies and daddies. Maybe they can teach them how to behave before they turn them loose in society.

  • Dingo
    Oct. 29, 2009 4:07 p.m.

    1- The police department does NOT get to pick and choose what calls to respond to and what ones not to. They have to do their jobs NO MATTER WHAT! Give me a break with the "nothing better to do" garbage.

    2- When we turn 18 we become adults. Mommy and daddy have no more ability to "bail" out their adult children as the judge in this case should rightly point out.

    3- Respect is a two way street but with the younger crowd today respect means they get what they want, when they want it, at everyone else’s expense. This is not the way respect works. If these kids had respect they would have known that the drive thru is not the right place for a "concert."

    4- McDonald's is a business and as such has the right to regulate what takes place on their property. The manager has the responsibility to follow through. We do not know the entire story so it is rash to say she acted badly. If the kids had been injured McDonald's is liable.

    5- Just because McDonald's made an advertisement with people rapping is not an excuse, please.

  • Pedro
    Oct. 29, 2009 4:07 p.m.

    Were the teenagers out of line? Maybe a little.

    Were the teenagers annoying? Probably.

    Did the teenagers cause the line to back up or create a little bit of frustration for the McDonalds employees? Maybe.

    Was this a problem to such an extent that police intervention was required? Does this represent an acceptable use of law enforcement resources?

    Of course not.

  • To the Person Above...
    Oct. 29, 2009 4:07 p.m.

    ...who recounted a gorilla mask story and ended by stating, "I didn't get cited, but I learned my lesson and never did it again."

    You just proved the point those of us who side with the teens are saying. Most of the time in these cases, there is absolutely no need to cite someone with a crime.

    We also don't know anything about the manager of the restaurant. How did h/she act? Was h/she rude to the teens? Did h/she escalate the situation?

    Regardless, I for one am bloody sick and tired of the cops showing up and looking to cite someone for any and every reason imaginable.

    Stop trying to be the strong arm of the law and just protect and serve, like you're supposed to. Instead, you "enforce and remand."

    Gone are the days when one could trust the police to work the spirit of the law. I guess the letter of the law is more profitable.

    But then, in AF, I guess they have to do whatever they can to justify their positions and their boredom. This is far from the first boredom-driven idiocy i've seen from that area.

  • Rapping
    Oct. 29, 2009 4:01 p.m.

    Citations should be given out to anyone who 'raps' in public.

  • Just a Moment There
    Oct. 29, 2009 3:47 p.m.

    One of those was my nephews son and that is absolutely not his behavior. The rapping because that is one of McDonald's commercials, but the disrespect and vulgarity is something he was taught not to do and would not do it.

    I dealt with a school administrator who wrote up some students sayng they threatened him and swore at him, but his fellow administrator denied that ever happened and that his other administrator had it out for the kid so he made up the charges. I would not be surprised to find out this is exactly what this manager did. He had to make up something to try and show his great authority. Perhaps all of the students at Lone Peak should boycott that McDonalds until the manager is retrained or let go.

    If McDonald doesn't want people ordering by rapping then don't make the commercial. Stupid is as stupid does.

  • Anonymous
    Oct. 29, 2009 3:21 p.m.

    Is this serious? I thought it was a skit from MadTV with Bon Qui Qui.

  • Good Grief
    Oct. 29, 2009 3:11 p.m.

    The amount of bigotry is amazing. I have read this and other boards making fun of the hispanic employees and calling them illegal. The ignorance would be laughable, but it's really not funny.

    It's quite obvious that a lot of you can't put yourselves into the place of a small Spanish woman being confronted by several strapping young men who become confrontational and abusive.

    Like there's no reason to think any of them would be bigots or anything or get violent perhaps. Just read the posts on this board. That's not harmless. It's frightening. If you are a woman you know what I mean.

    I am a strong woman, but teenage boys scare the crap out of me when they are in a pack. They seem to lose all sense of perspective and good judgement. They can cause damage and they know it. If you were a small person, in a strange place where people often treat you with disrespect and even contempt, I think you might get a little scared too. This is not harmless fun.

  • @ "Teenagers"
    Oct. 29, 2009 3:02 p.m.

    Your point was well thought out and it actually made sense however, your off base and wrong. How many 18 year olds "Know better" at that age? Of course they know better in fact they know it all, but the fact is that they are in fact only 18. When you turned 18 were you just the poster child for maturity?

  • Ridiculous
    Oct. 29, 2009 3:00 p.m.

    Disorderly conduct is not the same as a traffic citation; I completely support the parents in fighting this. I hope the McDonalds goes out of business.

  • Anonymous
    Oct. 29, 2009 2:55 p.m.

    maybe they should have sung their order in a hymn....

  • Respite
    Oct. 29, 2009 2:50 p.m.

    In a world with great important issues it's nice to have something like this to distract us. Maybe it's better than arresting elderly women for not watering their lawns. Ah Orem, what would we do without you?

  • @ "Teenagers | 11:53 a.m."
    Oct. 29, 2009 2:48 p.m.

    Teenagers | 11:53 a.m.

    You wish McDonalds had been "More TOLERANT"???

    More Tolerant... What, do you think this is a religious or racial thing. What should they be more "tolerant" of? Stupid behavior from stupid people? Is THAT something we should be more tolerant of?

    They were 18 year olds! They aren't infants. They should know BETTER by now. And no... it isn't a "Tolerance" issue. And NO, people shouldn't be belittled for not "Tolerating" this type of juvinile behaviour from young adults.

    They need to learn to grow up. Not have their juvinile behavior tolerated by McDonalds or encouraged by their parents.

  • Kate
    Oct. 29, 2009 2:31 p.m.

    Perhaps this franchise owner should spend some time working at an inner-city McDonalds and learn when it is truly appropriate to use law enforcement and our taxpayer dollars in an effecient manner. If you get your panties in a bunch over a couple of rapping teens and feel the need to call 911 everytime someone takes too long to order, should we assume that you aren't capable of running a business?

    Here are some other bad reasons to call the police:
    Someone places their order in Spanish
    Someone spills a soda on the floor
    Someone doesn't flush the toilet in the bathroom
    Someone takes up two parking spots
    Someone doesn't hold the door for an elderly customer
    Someone wears baggy pants and their hat to the side

    Well the list goes on.............

  • Anonymous
    Oct. 29, 2009 2:27 p.m.

    The rap was terrible, they should be cited.

  • Wow !
    Oct. 29, 2009 2:20 p.m.

    What's this country coming to? Kids can't even have a little harmless fun without some uptight employee reporting this carload of "criminals" to the proper authorities? Wow !

  • Must be slow
    Oct. 29, 2009 2:18 p.m.

    at night in AF...

  • American Citizen
    Oct. 29, 2009 2:18 p.m.

    Misbehaving kids are a pain in the butt to everyone but their she bear mommies and wimpy daddies.

    Eighteen is the the year kids loose their juvenile status and are subject to adult law. Naturally nothing they do is their fault.

    However, the Utah Pen has legions of "good boys with bad friends" and adoring mommies.

  • byot09
    Oct. 29, 2009 2:09 p.m.

    "Their "Fighting" the citation???" WOW...You need a serious life! How about fighting for something you believe in and that you feel you didn't deserve? Citation??? At the very most the police officer should have told the kids to go home. The Mac D's needs to have sensitivity class as part of their training program. Citation...give me a break and loosen up people!

  • Naruto
    Oct. 29, 2009 2:06 p.m.

    I hope the parents win their fight against the ciatation. Someone needs ot teach those cops a lesson. Stop wasting our money on BS Charges. I think this one is going to make national news.

  • SSC
    Oct. 29, 2009 2:04 p.m.

    I think that the boys left because they were found at LPHS, going to the volleyball game-- I think that they request to leave was granted! So, if the manager was so "threatened" by all of this, why in the world was she outside asking them to leave? Seems like McDonalds may be telling a little "McStory" if you ask me...

    Kudos to the parents for teaching their children to stand-up for what is "RIGHT" and not accepting the bullying of the police nor McDonalds! Lessons well learned, fo' sure!

  • JAYEG
    Oct. 29, 2009 2:00 p.m.

    Something for this manager to consider. It is very lucky for her that these WEREN'T bad kids, as some commentators have implied. To walk out and confront people you don't know is a dangerous prospect to begin with.

    More and more, I am reading about teenaged criminals who would just as soon shoot you as speak with you.

    And if these WERE 'hoodlems' as Mr.Bill implied...this manager's decision to pursue the issue after they had left, by calling the police, might well result in the possibility of her becoming a REAL victim of retaliation.

  • billybubba
    Oct. 29, 2009 1:59 p.m.

    I sure hope next time i am mcdonalds they get my order out in a hurry or i will call the cops because they are waisting my time and costing me money. Does anybody think that the mananger will get a ticket for this

  • To "Obby1 | 1:16 p.m."
    Oct. 29, 2009 1:57 p.m.

    Obby1 | 1:16 p.m.

    An obsession with others spelling is the sign of a small and closed mind.

    In my book there's more than one way to spell everything. When I miss-spell... I'm just being "creative".

    Don't marsh my mello!

  • JAYEG
    Oct. 29, 2009 1:56 p.m.

    So...the manager confronted these kids in their car, and told them to either order correctly or leave.

    The kids reacted like most people would under the circumstances. They were offended by her confrontational attitude, and they offended her in return by using profanity...and then they complied by leaving.

    There was no reason to involve the police when the kids had already complied with the request to leave.

    I deal with rude and discourteous people on a daily basis in the course of my business operations. People get pissed off and use profanity simply because we are repairing asphalt and have blocked off a mall entry they wanted to use.

    We simply point out the next entry, and continue working. If I called the cops every time someone cussed at me, or my crew...I'd probably find myself receiving citation for being a nuisance.

    IMPO...this manager will likely be required to undertake further training by corporate headquarters. After all...she turned away paying customers, and McDonalds is all about making the almighty buck.

    Some of you people need to go back and read the article.


  • Anonymous
    Oct. 29, 2009 1:51 p.m.

    Wait a second. If the police are called, it is their duty to respond. I think there is equal fault here from both the McDonald's manager who obviously has some kind of a power complex to even involve the police and the teenagers who, like most of us at that age, don't know when to shut up.

    Agreed that we as a society get the police involved all too often, but it's up to US not the police to decide when the police should become involved.

    McDonald's: apologize and offer free ice cream to all the students who come over and rap for you at the indoor counter.

    Teenagers involved & parents: Get your fannies over to McDonalds and apologize!

  • Ags
    Oct. 29, 2009 1:49 p.m.

    For one, I am glad the police responded. I like to think that if I was subjected to behavior which I found disrupting and possibly threatening, that the police would respond. WOW, have you been assaulted and ignored recently. The police did the right thing. It is the right of the teens and the parents to challenge the citation--that makes it the court's decision. I am a fan of the rule of law. I am not a fan of destructive, abusive, or threatening "fun". That's asking for future trouble. Nip it in the bud, before someone gets hurt.

  • Rt Winger
    Oct. 29, 2009 1:48 p.m.

    How ironic that a McDonald's would call the police because they couldn't understand the kids placing an order......so does that allow us to call the police the next time we encounter a McDonald's employee who can't speak English?

  • To the kid's defenders...
    Oct. 29, 2009 1:46 p.m.

    Would you be as defensive of the kids if when the manager went out to confront them, instead of just yelling profanities at her and taking off... One of them had pulled out his pistol and waved it at her???

    It's happened in lesser confrontations.

    I hope these youths learn from THIS incident and don't listen to the peole telling them, "That's all right, you just keep doing stuff like this, you're still young and can do ANYTHING you want".

    I hope they don't get encouraged by the people telling them what they did was all-right, and the people who decided to take the time to make sure they learned from this experience are BAD.

    I hope they don't learn that nobody cares what they do, and maybe next time take their rebelion and young exuberanace to the next level (like many teenagers in WVC, EastLA, etc, do)... And point a gun at anybody if they mess with you when you and your pose were are just having their fun.

  • Tisk Tisk
    Oct. 29, 2009 1:46 p.m.

    athor Yup!
    If kids can't behave in public maybe they should stay home until they can. The kids need to man-up and take some responsibility, unless of course, mommy will save their bacon. The best comment on the story: Have the cops call the parents, let the parents teach the lesson. Maybe both will learn something. Perhaps a sincere apology from the kids? If this is a pattern, maybe stronger lessons are needed. It's their choice. Whoa.

  • byot09
    Oct. 29, 2009 1:40 p.m.

    "Small things leads to big ones" where did you quantify this to come up with your concept? Do you have hard facts? Have you done research to prove this? Don't assume it makes you seem silly? It's your personal opinion supported by nothing, not FACT!

  • liftnweights
    Oct. 29, 2009 1:39 p.m.

    Small town... Small mindedness...Sounds like a Great opportunity for the Chamber of Commerce to get involved in the community and provide opportunities for youth so that there is something to do in a small town other than get into mischief. What if the town had a Boys and Girls club or started a rapping club for youth that did not include the use of profanity and increased their vocabulary at the same time? Maybe they could sponsor a competition and come up with some prizes or for goodness sake give kids hope for coming back to their community to start a business of their own when they grow older instead of just giving them a ticket and reconfirming that there is no hope in smallville Utah. This will teach kids respect, give them an idea of business, entrepreneurship and a love for their community. It doesn’t mean that they are going to become professional rappers it just means that you are giving an opportunity for kids to get involved in a positive way, giving them something to do and keeping them off the streets.

  • anonymous
    Oct. 29, 2009 1:39 p.m.

    I think it's terrible that they wasted McDonald's time. May I suggest parents and teens no longer go to Mc Donald's and 'bother' them. There are plenty of other fast food drive-ins that are friendlier and their food is healthier and better tasting!

  • JAYEG
    Oct. 29, 2009 1:38 p.m.

    Re: Mary | 12:35 p.m. Oct. 29, 2009

    Most likely the kids would also thank their lucky stars that they aren't your kids.

  • Phil
    Oct. 29, 2009 1:37 p.m.

    In the Salt Lake Trib article it said that disorderly conduct is the same as a traffic ticket. Wrong, disorderly conduct is criminal and a traffic ticket is not. What does disorderly conduct mean anyway. We need to get rid of stupid laws like this that give cops a tool to hand out tickets for pretty much anything.

  • Their "Fighting" the citation???
    Oct. 29, 2009 1:36 p.m.

    The parents of the teens are "fighting the citation"???

    What's the big deal? It's a citation! A ticket. Nothing happened. They didn't go to jail. They were just warned not to do things like that again.

    If I were one of the parents... I would just be hoping my kid learned something from this experience. Not going to court to try to teach my kid that he HAD the right to use that type of profanity at the manager and to intentionally disrupt the business.

    When I was a teenager my friend had a monkey mask, so I decided to take the dare and run through the McDonalds we used to hang out at and just see if I could freak out the customers.

    It worked... Some of them got pretty freaked out. It was funny till I figured out how freaked out some of them got.

    I didn't get cited, but I learned my lesson (and never did it again).

    The parents should be hoping their kids LEARN something from this. Not that they can find a way to fight the citation.

  • Chillout
    Oct. 29, 2009 1:29 p.m.

    Chillout.

  • JB
    Oct. 29, 2009 1:23 p.m.

    Markets hot if you want to run with it 4 kids got in trouble at an American Fork, Utah McDonalds drive thru for singing their order in a rap song... But I remembered McDonalds in 1989 produced this commercial. "Menu Song" found it again... Strike while the pans hot!!! Could be big!

  • John Charity Spring Imposter
    Oct. 29, 2009 1:20 p.m.

    The problem with McDonald's is that it represents everything that is wrong with the modern food industry: gratuitous ketchup, indiscriminate calories, and pickles added simply for the sake of adding pickles. Indeed, the difference between modern and traditional food is striking. Whereas traditional meals consisted of healthy meats such as ham, lamb, and wild rabbit, the modern version promotes gluttony, clogged arteries, and every other type of dietary immorality. With modern restaurants such as McDonald's relentlessly promoting these evils, it is no wonder that modern society is such a fat mess.

  • Obby1
    Oct. 29, 2009 1:16 p.m.

    Kids have always been a little disruptive, and that is the nature of the beast. btw I cannot believe how many of the above commenting people can not seem to spell simple words correctly.

  • Wake up
    Oct. 29, 2009 1:10 p.m.

    Singing in the drive through was not the issue. It was the disruption. I'm sure if anyone of you had been in the drive through behind them you would have been annoyed as well. 18 years old is old enough to know how to behave. Sure you could pass the buck and say that it's the parents fault for not teaching them. In any case they had every right to order them to leave. It is McDonalds property. It was their refusal that brought the cops in.

  • Marketing Fan!
    Oct. 29, 2009 1:10 p.m.

    Some kids got busted in American Fork for a rap song in the drive thru... But Mc Donalds in 1989 produced this commercial. I’m a little confused Listen you tell me.... 1989 McDonalds "Menu Song" Commercial Source: www.youtube.com

  • Shad
    Oct. 29, 2009 1:04 p.m.

    Put these hoodlums in the state pen and let them clean up McD wrappers (no pun intended) on the side of the road. Clearly the lesson being learned here is do what you want because Mommy and Daddy will bail you out. Maybe pay the fine with allowance money.

  • byot09
    Oct. 29, 2009 1:04 p.m.

    "Bill Baumgardner Sr." loosen your belt up big boy your vains are popping out.

  • athor
    Oct. 29, 2009 1:01 p.m.

    disorderly conduct is not the end of the world, they will recover...but the real issue here is that the parents are sending the wrong message by bailing their kids out by not teaching them some responsibility and the lesson of consequences...maybe the police didn't need to be involved but none of us were there and that's the call that the Mc D's manager had to make...God knows that I could improve as a parent, but I see this everywhere! the "entitlement" generation!

  • Byot09
    Oct. 29, 2009 12:58 p.m.

    "Their lucky they are not my kids" by "Mary" Yes, they are very lucky! Loosen up Mary!

  • small things leads to big ones
    Oct. 29, 2009 12:52 p.m.

    Not all but most small things that someone can get away with will always lead to some bigger ones. I'm glad the cops are taking this seriously because when the parents don't society will...It sucks for tax payers that have to pay for what parents have should of handled themselves

  • Byot09
    Oct. 29, 2009 12:51 p.m.

    I'm glad to read that people are against this ridiculous citing by the American Fork police. Come on PD let’s put the donut down and start doing what you’re paid to do...go after the real criminals! If there are no criminals in American Fork and this is the only action...then things are good.

  • get real
    Oct. 29, 2009 12:49 p.m.

    I so have to agree with all of the above!!!! I think the world has lost focus on whats important. THE CHILDREN,and yes think back to the things you use to do as a teenager,probly ALOT worse than singing to a drive through.the kids were local they probly order the same food daily.I also agree that charging these kids is absolutly STUPID lets get a real criminal, besides how many other times has this manager been cursed at and never charged anyone else?? Put your big girl panties on and get over it they were just being board teenagers!!!!!

  • Festus
    Oct. 29, 2009 12:46 p.m.

    We need to teach our kids that "charity begins at home". There's a lot of problems with our teenagers because of lack of respect. Our freedom should not be taken for granted in any situation, at any place and at any time. We should cherish it at all times! There are our tomorrow; we need to teach them right! Parents, please let someone else help teach your kids. They're all still going to blend with the society after graduation one day and they need to be learned.

  • WOW!
    Oct. 29, 2009 12:45 p.m.

    Only in Utah another story of a cop with nothing to do in Utah! No I know what cops do when my car is being broken into, or when I'm assualted on the street. Huh maybe I should so the state for wasting my money and not providing the citizens with the services that they should.
    I hope the police department feels proud wow caught and fined the rapping kids do they get an award for that!

  • Blue Nuts
    Oct. 29, 2009 12:36 p.m.

    They should have gone to Burger King and had it "their way"

  • Mary
    Oct. 29, 2009 12:35 p.m.

    What happen to teaching our children respect. That was not teens just having fun. That was rude and uncalled for behavior. Come on parents, step up and take responsiblity for your childs actions. Let the boys get their punishment and teach them respect. Their luckiy they are not my kids.

  • Anonymous
    Oct. 29, 2009 12:28 p.m.

    Can't prove disorderly conduct. Using profanity and refusing to leave according to the manager may have actually been the teens laughing and saying they were just having fun. Having this be a big deal is going to cause more problems for that manager than solve them.

  • Wow
    Oct. 29, 2009 12:23 p.m.

    I have a hard time believing that the American Fork Police would actually take the time to track down these young men, let alone ticket them. That is an over-reaction. I can't believe that in this day and age, when we have such serious problems with teen gang members, drive by shootings, drug use, higher teen pregnancy rates, and we are ticketing these clean cut teens for something like this. I saw this story on the news last night, and watched the interview with these young men. Just wondering...would they have been ticketed in American Fork for rapping their order had they been wearing BYU sweatshirts and not U of U?...makes ya think!

  • Stupid Forker
    Oct. 29, 2009 12:23 p.m.

    My goodness do the cops have nothing better to do than chase down these Rapping Teenagers? Seriously? Our tax dollars keeping us safe right there.

  • Bill Baumgardner Sr.
    Oct. 29, 2009 12:17 p.m.

    As long as it is someone else being the victim of the "fun" & not the perps parents being the victims, then it is "just fun". How nice. If you have not reared your child to be more respectful to others, you & your child are the losers in life. I hope the judge throws the book at these hoodlums and their parents, if we can call them parents. Thank you, "IF" you post this.

  • Little Punks
    Oct. 29, 2009 12:12 p.m.

    Good!

  • CB
    Oct. 29, 2009 12:08 p.m.

    Heard the 'rapping', too bad this manager doesn't have a sense of humor. Didn't like McDonald's anyway,she just gave me reason not to patronize their business.
    How much business do they get from the local High School? Stupid decision.

  • dave
    Oct. 29, 2009 12:08 p.m.

    Charging these kids is insane. What is this, the USSR??? The police and courts are out of control. It's time for the government to be taked back by the people.

  • What a joke!
    Oct. 29, 2009 12:04 p.m.

    How long did they really "disrupt" business. If they truly cost the business any money that is one thing...if they didn't and were just being rowdy teenagers then lets move on.

    The police are clearly bored and have nothing to do more important than this?

  • Anonymous
    Oct. 29, 2009 11:55 a.m.

    oh good grief. people need to get a life

  • Teenagers
    Oct. 29, 2009 11:53 a.m.

    Kids need to show respect, but why does society not remember what it is like to be a kid. A warning and getting their parents involved - is the norm. Why are we so happy to get cops involved. This seems to be an exxxxxxxagerated issue and I wish McDonalds would of been a little more tolerant. Heaven knows I have wanted to call the cops before on their pathetic service and half the time can not understand their workers, but realize everyone has bad days! Lighten up people and help kids, but don't make them branded for a creative fun night - rapping real dangerous!

  • Anonymous
    Oct. 29, 2009 11:52 a.m.

    Sounds like disorderly conduct. I bet the mom who was saying "teens just having fun" is the same person who thought the gay couple on main street plaza were out of line.