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BYU football notebook: Cougars struggling vs. quality teams
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Ute Alum | 11:18 p.m. Oct. 28, 2009
Make that 4-6! GOOOOOO UTES!!!!
Old cougar fan... | 11:26 p.m. Oct. 28, 2009
Seems to me like the same old story, but what it really is, is excuses. They
cougars use to really on great quarterbacks to win games and now they rely on
running backs. When will bronco realize you can't have a one man team? As a
fan, I think it is time for him to step down, be a defensive coach and lets find
someone who can MOTIVATE a team to win.
Re: 11:18 p.m. | 12:23 a.m. Oct. 29, 2009
With this year's Utah team? Be serious.
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Pound the ball | 2:13 a.m. Oct. 29, 2009
Pound the ball on the ground with Unga and our other RB, HB, etc. Until they
can stopt them!
Same old | 2:33 a.m. Oct. 29, 2009
Ummm .... we need to execute better
Ummm .... we need to be more focused
Ummm .... we need to have better intensity
Ummm .... we need to be fully invested
Ummm .... we need to remember FB is 5th or 6th, or really wherever the young man feels like putting it.
Ummm .... we need to come back and be better
Ummm .... we need to cut down on penalties
Ummm .... we need to schedule 1 for 1 with the BCS boys
Ummm .... we need to quit making 27 fixable errors per game
Did I miss anything?
Ummm .... we need to be more focused
Ummm .... we need to have better intensity
Ummm .... we need to be fully invested
Ummm .... we need to remember FB is 5th or 6th, or really wherever the young man feels like putting it.
Ummm .... we need to come back and be better
Ummm .... we need to cut down on penalties
Ummm .... we need to schedule 1 for 1 with the BCS boys
Ummm .... we need to quit making 27 fixable errors per game
Did I miss anything?
Bronco | 5:41 a.m. Oct. 29, 2009
Anyone that complains about Byu Football, it shows your level of education.
Dennis | 6:02 a.m. Oct. 29, 2009
You can't win with (2) fullbacks that have no speed.
You can't cover top flight receivers with 5'6" cornerbacks. There are no Hobbits in Division 1 football.
The quarterback has stats because the team is built around him. He is not a winner. Just another seemingly nice guy that's a quarterback.
Size/speed/skill wins. When you have more players on the field with all three your chances of victory improve dramatically.
The Happy Valley Gravy Train doesn't have enough of these players.
You can't cover top flight receivers with 5'6" cornerbacks. There are no Hobbits in Division 1 football.
The quarterback has stats because the team is built around him. He is not a winner. Just another seemingly nice guy that's a quarterback.
Size/speed/skill wins. When you have more players on the field with all three your chances of victory improve dramatically.
The Happy Valley Gravy Train doesn't have enough of these players.
Buck stops there | 6:36 a.m. Oct. 29, 2009
If Mendenhall was willing to face reality he would see that his excuses will
never merit the fact that as a coach he lacks the excitement or involvement
needed to get players up and prepared for a game. Just watch him on the side
lines - folded arms, no demeaner or anxiety or excitement, no interaction with
coaches or players for good or bgad jobs done. LaVell Edwards earned the right
to be that way, but Mendenhall has not so the buck stops with Mendenhall. A nice
guy but I am beginning to wonder about his REAL coaching abilities. Nice guys
always come in second! Winners get seriously involved with players, coaches and
team performance.
If Mendenhall cannot figure that out real soon perhaps a head coach change is required - How about one of those NFL coaches who previously coached at BYU - what a change that would be!
If Mendenhall cannot figure that out real soon perhaps a head coach change is required - How about one of those NFL coaches who previously coached at BYU - what a change that would be!
Anonymous | 8:23 a.m. Oct. 29, 2009
I love how everyone loves Bronco because he is such a great coach at 10-2 every
year... Does anyone know his record VS. ranked teams in his time here?? He is
4-12 VS. ranked teams... Argue that.
mje | 8:25 a.m. Oct. 29, 2009
Hey, lets hire Stephen Covey! Great Idea!
Dear Buck stops there: | 8:27 a.m. Oct. 29, 2009
Exactly how many division one football games have you coached? Jr. College?
High school games? Shall we try little league games? Thought so. Go back to
your nintendo, gamecube or PS2 where you got all your experience. Critic's
are usually legless men who teach running.
Bronco | 8:32 a.m. Oct. 29, 2009
"We need to...force our execution to hold at a higher level."
What does that even mean, Bronco? No more Covey-management techniques and jargon. It's football!
What does that even mean, Bronco? No more Covey-management techniques and jargon. It's football!
Neil | 8:44 a.m. Oct. 29, 2009
There was a time that BYU fans had class. I will take that any day. Here we
have a coach and program that wins in double digits every year and we have
complainers. We have done well against TCU and Utah in the last few years and
will in the future. The program has beaten BCS teams and will continue to. The
team is much better than some of it's classless fans.
Nice point? | 8:47 a.m. Oct. 29, 2009
BYU is 4-5 against TCU and Utah.
TCU is also 4-5 against BYU and Utah.
Utah is 5-3 against BYU and TCU.
The point is that there are three pretty even teams atop the MWC.
So now we can wait for the article about TCU struggling against good teams.
TCU is also 4-5 against BYU and Utah.
Utah is 5-3 against BYU and TCU.
The point is that there are three pretty even teams atop the MWC.
So now we can wait for the article about TCU struggling against good teams.
5-5 | 8:50 a.m. Oct. 29, 2009
That is the record BYU, TCU, and Utah will have against each other over the past
five seasons when this season is over. So according to this article BYU, Utah,
and TCU all struggle in big games. It's called parity.
Uncle Reality | 8:50 a.m. Oct. 29, 2009
BYU has the talent. BYU has the resources. BYU has a "good" coach.
What BYU doesn't have is an "excellent" coach. I know BYU fans
are going to hate this, but if BYU had a coach similar to Urban Meyer, there is
no doubt in my mind that BYU would be a BCS team and a national contender EVERY
single year.
"Excellent" coaches are difficult to find and BYU has very selective religious requirements for their coaches which narrows the field down to only LDS. Maybe BYU needs to start expanding it's coaching pool and coaching options.
"Excellent" coaches are difficult to find and BYU has very selective religious requirements for their coaches which narrows the field down to only LDS. Maybe BYU needs to start expanding it's coaching pool and coaching options.
Crimson Club | 8:58 a.m. Oct. 29, 2009
I know that many BYU fans are going to be upset that a Ute fan is even
commenting on this BYU story. However, I just want to say that I have started
to pay attention to BYU's talent this year (I even went to my first BYU
game). I hate to admit it, but BYU probably has more talent than any other team
in the MWC. I personally don't feel that talent is being used to its
potential by your coach. There is absolutely no reason that BYU shouldn't
be ranked in the top 10 year in and year out with their talent. I would tend to
lay the blame with the coaching staff and/or their coaching philosophy. There
are many BCS teams that would love to trade their players for BYU's players
and I bet they would coach BYU better than it is being coached. Just my 2
scents.
Athletes | 9:20 a.m. Oct. 29, 2009
Come on "Uncle Reality". BYU doesn't currently nor will it ever
have the athletes to compete on a national scale. Cougar fan should just be
happy winning the MWC once in a while and being able to beat Utah and TCU when
they have a down year. Those are the facts, as tough as it is for Cougar fan to
realize. Forget the dream of a BCS berth and keep that MWC championship in
mind.
Cougarduder | 9:25 a.m. Oct. 29, 2009
Bronco is fine. The talent level is not much different than when Crowton was
coach. Considering the talent they have and will have, BYU is doing
exceptionally well. I do wish Bronco would not be so predictable in both his
defense and play calling. BYU might be a victim of its own system. Execution is
very important. But if the other team executes equally well, then the outcome
falls back on talent and how the ball bounces. But surprise can compensate for
lack of talent. Ask Boise State. Another thought, put one of the speed guys at
running back occasionally. Power is good and Harvey is amazing. But adding a
speed back would help Harvey and add more options.
Uncle Reality-GET REAL | 9:30 a.m. Oct. 29, 2009
There is no way that the church will select a coach other than one that is a
member of the church. It just will not happen. The twelve apostles selected
Bronco with one interview. Other coaches that do not share the beliefs can be
selected as assistants but I can guarantee they will not select a head coach
other than a member of the LDS church with a Temple Recommend. Plain and Real!
Dutchman | 9:31 a.m. Oct. 29, 2009
BYU offered the job to Whittingham because he met the religious requirements and
passed his "General Authority Interview" but he settled on Utah. Whit
has turned out to be an excellent coach and he is in a situation where he can
mix the best religious kids, returned missionaries and frankly all other
athletes into a football team that will march to a BCS game every couple of
years. I just hope Ohio State or a SEC team does not come calling with a $3.5
million dollar contract.
So Cal Y Fan | 9:43 a.m. Oct. 29, 2009
I'm a HUGE Bronco fan. There's no doubt we was the right man at the
right time to get the "Y Train" back on track. With that being said,
though, there's no ignoring the #'s. Overall, the Y has a difficult
time executing well in big games-- and that usually points at coaching. He must
do better.
Re: Buck Stops Here. How rediculous/crazy that Bronco does not show enough emotion/fire on the sidelines. I go back as far as '77 with Edwards. You say he earned the right? What had he really accomplished with the program by that time? Not much. However, his demeanor remained the exact same (very Bronco-like) between that time and when he retired.
Go Cougs & Bronco!
Re: Buck Stops Here. How rediculous/crazy that Bronco does not show enough emotion/fire on the sidelines. I go back as far as '77 with Edwards. You say he earned the right? What had he really accomplished with the program by that time? Not much. However, his demeanor remained the exact same (very Bronco-like) between that time and when he retired.
Go Cougs & Bronco!
CBT | 9:50 a.m. Oct. 29, 2009
If I were HC at BYU, I would change 2 things. I would put in a more agressive
defensive scheme, and I would change the way that the WR position is used, or
not used, in the offense.
When BYU plays more aggressively on D, they may give up big plays. But htey always take things away from the other team as cause mistakes. Sitting make dos not do that.
As to the offense, name the last time a WR caught a ball in te middle of the field? I do not think it has happened more than 4-5 times the last 4 years. Seriously. The WR position stays outside all game long. If they do come inside, it is only after the catch, not before it. All I know is that the great slow, white BYU receivers of the past would be non-factors in this offensive scheme, yet they were awesome in the past. I am talking Boyce, Drage, Doman, Cahoon, etc. And BYU has faster guys who are better athletes than those guys, yet gets little from them. Sounds like a scheme issue to me...
When BYU plays more aggressively on D, they may give up big plays. But htey always take things away from the other team as cause mistakes. Sitting make dos not do that.
As to the offense, name the last time a WR caught a ball in te middle of the field? I do not think it has happened more than 4-5 times the last 4 years. Seriously. The WR position stays outside all game long. If they do come inside, it is only after the catch, not before it. All I know is that the great slow, white BYU receivers of the past would be non-factors in this offensive scheme, yet they were awesome in the past. I am talking Boyce, Drage, Doman, Cahoon, etc. And BYU has faster guys who are better athletes than those guys, yet gets little from them. Sounds like a scheme issue to me...
fans this is what you should | 9:51 a.m. Oct. 29, 2009
expect. When you have too recuit 90% lds kids this is what you get. BYU is
recuiting a very small % of players out there. Yes, they will have their good
years and they will have average years. They don't have the depth or
talent you compete year in and year out for a national championship and a top 10
year every year like Texas, USC, and Flordia. The only way they do that is if
they schedule down and join the WAC. MWC is not a great conference. They have 3
quality teams and that is it. So BYU fans be happy that you are winning 9-10
games a year and get over the fact that you are not a top 10 team. Not enough
team speed or depth. Be happy. When was USC or Texas or another top school who
actually plays in tougher schedule gets blown out. Think about this. TCU in
most years would be 3rd-4th in the big 12 or pac 10. TCU is good how good I am
not sure with the schedule they have played. This year they would be 2nd in
both but would lose 1 or 2 games
KC | 10:03 a.m. Oct. 29, 2009
Expectations???? Come on, Bronco. Recent thrashings at the hands of TCU and
Utah weren't due to "expectations". You've beaten them in
the past. The truth is that your program has taken a step backwards. Focus on
getting that step back before talking about taking another step forward.
stone cold sober | 10:11 a.m. Oct. 29, 2009
RE: Crimson Club
TALENT????
This is what I saw at the TCU game.
1. BYU Linebackers being beaten by faster TCU receivers.
2. BYU wideouts being covered like a blanket by more talented TCU defensive backs.
3. BYU offensive linemen being beaten by Hughes and company.
4. BYU defensive backs being beaten all night long.
I don't think BYU has enough talent. I'd trade for the TCU or Utah defense any day. Coaching should take a hit for the debacle, but so should the BYU players.
TALENT????
This is what I saw at the TCU game.
1. BYU Linebackers being beaten by faster TCU receivers.
2. BYU wideouts being covered like a blanket by more talented TCU defensive backs.
3. BYU offensive linemen being beaten by Hughes and company.
4. BYU defensive backs being beaten all night long.
I don't think BYU has enough talent. I'd trade for the TCU or Utah defense any day. Coaching should take a hit for the debacle, but so should the BYU players.
RBC | 10:12 a.m. Oct. 29, 2009
I love how fans are saying we need a new coach. Fact is that back in the old
days of Gary and Giff, just going to a bowl game was a huge success. Then came
McMahon and we had winning seasons every year. Though we did lose to Wyoming.
Then Young came and we were thrilled with 8 wins per year, and a bowl win over a
marginal team from back east. Then lightening struck and we somehow won a
national championship--which couldn't happen under todays rules. Nowdays
anything less than undefeated is a dissapointment. And a 9 or 10 win season is
considered under achieving. Come on folks--we've got it good. Especially
under the rules and honor code restrictions we have to deal with. We have great
facilities, great coaches, and sell out crowds. Sure we need to do better but
this get rid of Bronco garbage is nonsence. If you really think we need a new
coach I'm sure the last 10 or 20 that have been fired by Wyoming, UNLV, San
Diego, New Mexico and CSU are still available. I'll bet they'd come in
a heartbeat.
BYU FAN | 10:16 a.m. Oct. 29, 2009
I'm just wondering, why does a Utah Fan read BYU articles and spend their
time to discredit us?
I can truthfully say I have never looked up the Utah sight and read it. Is there that mutch hate in some of you that drives you to do this, Please enlighten me, I'm just wondering.
I can truthfully say I have never looked up the Utah sight and read it. Is there that mutch hate in some of you that drives you to do this, Please enlighten me, I'm just wondering.
Uncle Reality | 10:24 a.m. Oct. 29, 2009
Come on Folks, let's get real for just a minute. Everyone knows that if
Urban Meyer was coaching this exact same BYU football team this year, BYU would
be undefeated and probably ranked in the top 3 right now. There is no denying
that the coach makes a HUGE difference in how a team performs. I just
don't see Bronco every being an "excellent" coach. He is a good
coach and that is all he will ever be. A good coach can compete in the MWC, but
not on a national level.
Moose on the Loose | 10:26 a.m. Oct. 29, 2009
Add another loss to BYU's record after the Utah game. The Utes are just as
athletic as TCU, but just not quite as refined. Either way, chalk it up as a
loss for the kitties.
theWhizzOfRed&White | 10:37 a.m. Oct. 29, 2009
So Cal Y Fan is 100% correct............please keep the coach and his
staff-------just love how he gets crunched and evaluates the fans educational
levels!!!
Makes for fun reading on a slow day....!!!!!!
Makes for fun reading on a slow day....!!!!!!
Greg | 10:46 a.m. Oct. 29, 2009
If Urban Meyer was BYU's head coach we wouldn't even be having this
conversation. BYU would be ranked in the top 5 and would be going to a BCS this
year, no doubt about it. The blame is all on the coaching.
Helaman Halls | 11:06 a.m. Oct. 29, 2009
Uncle Reality | 10:24 a.m. Oct. 29, 2009 wrote:
"Come on Folks, let's get real for just a minute. Everyone knows that if Urban Meyer was coaching this exact same BYU football team this year, BYU would be undefeated and probably ranked in the top 3 right now. There is no denying that the coach makes a HUGE difference in how a team performs. I just don't see Bronco every being an "excellent" coach. He is a good coach and that is all he will ever be. A good coach can compete in the MWC, but not on a national level."
The reason BYU can't get an excellent coach is because it would cost them about 3.5 million dollars per year.
"Come on Folks, let's get real for just a minute. Everyone knows that if Urban Meyer was coaching this exact same BYU football team this year, BYU would be undefeated and probably ranked in the top 3 right now. There is no denying that the coach makes a HUGE difference in how a team performs. I just don't see Bronco every being an "excellent" coach. He is a good coach and that is all he will ever be. A good coach can compete in the MWC, but not on a national level."
The reason BYU can't get an excellent coach is because it would cost them about 3.5 million dollars per year.
CJ3 | 11:09 a.m. Oct. 29, 2009
There are about Four Million reasons why BYU will not be able to hire a coach of
Urban Meyer's qualities.
We Can Get an EXCELLENT COACH | 11:12 a.m. Oct. 29, 2009
Andy Reid would coach at BYU if he were asked and he would agree to a huge
pay-cut just for the privilege of coaching here. Let's start a campaign to
bring Andy Reid to Provo.
WSU BYU Fan | 11:14 a.m. Oct. 29, 2009
To Uncle Reality,
There are several LDS coaches in the NFL who would take the BYU job in a heartbeat. Money is not an issue with BYU either. BYU can afford to pay top dollar for their head coach. I think you will see Norm Chow make his next move to BYU.
There are several LDS coaches in the NFL who would take the BYU job in a heartbeat. Money is not an issue with BYU either. BYU can afford to pay top dollar for their head coach. I think you will see Norm Chow make his next move to BYU.
Re: Uncle Reality | 11:29 a.m. Oct. 29, 2009
Uncle Reality is a Ute troll pulling our leg. Not really very funny.
Here's my take. With most, but now all, Mormon kids naturally drawn to BYU, BYU should have the talent to beat mid and lower MWC teams on a regular basis. Not that this should be taken for granted, it's just true. It there were some way to quantify talent, ask the folks at CSU, NM, or AF, for example, if they would trade their talent pool with the BYU talent pool, and the anwser would be yes in a heartbeat.
On the other hand, if you want to compete at the national level you have to do a better job of getting the elite Mormon talent and other recruits comfortable with the Honor Code who are also very atheletic. Just a few every year would make lots of difference.
It's that simple.
Meantime, the Oklahoma game demonstrates that competing with better atheletes is not impossible.
Here's my take. With most, but now all, Mormon kids naturally drawn to BYU, BYU should have the talent to beat mid and lower MWC teams on a regular basis. Not that this should be taken for granted, it's just true. It there were some way to quantify talent, ask the folks at CSU, NM, or AF, for example, if they would trade their talent pool with the BYU talent pool, and the anwser would be yes in a heartbeat.
On the other hand, if you want to compete at the national level you have to do a better job of getting the elite Mormon talent and other recruits comfortable with the Honor Code who are also very atheletic. Just a few every year would make lots of difference.
It's that simple.
Meantime, the Oklahoma game demonstrates that competing with better atheletes is not impossible.
OHIOBYUFan | 11:30 a.m. Oct. 29, 2009
Just another thought...
All the talk, and nothing to back it up...
SO, many of you think BYU needs a new coach--a member of the church; one who knows how to win--How about convincing Steve Young to Coach. He's "..been there, done that". And he has the rings to prove it.
He knows how to get guys ready for the big game and can do it from the NFL level. He knows and could recruit the speed and atheleticism needed to get the job done--both defensively and offensively.
Like I said, just a thought.
All the talk, and nothing to back it up...
SO, many of you think BYU needs a new coach--a member of the church; one who knows how to win--How about convincing Steve Young to Coach. He's "..been there, done that". And he has the rings to prove it.
He knows how to get guys ready for the big game and can do it from the NFL level. He knows and could recruit the speed and atheleticism needed to get the job done--both defensively and offensively.
Like I said, just a thought.
Losing helps no one | 11:32 a.m. Oct. 29, 2009
Bronco needs to understand one key point - losing (and losing BIG) does not help
the program ..just look at Utah State who schedules big time opponents and gets
killed every year. The ONLY thing Bronco can do to win against ranked teams is
upgrade his own talent to match what he is playing against. Execution is a
by-product of talent.
grumpolman | 11:39 a.m. Oct. 29, 2009
Expecting the Cougars and Bronco to be perfect is like expecting people writing
on this post to be perfect in spelling and punctuation. Not happening at least
not for a while. I can see both getting better though with great new recruits
coming in and fair weather fans dropping like dead flies.
re: BYU FAN | 11:50 a.m. Oct. 29, 2009
You're the only BYU fan that has "truthfully" never read a Utah
article. Haven't seen any heavy BYU bashing on here though....just some
input.
Dragon | 12:00 p.m. Oct. 29, 2009
Folks,we must accept the fact and take what we want out of it.
1) Bronco/BYU is not set up for BCS championship, neither to win MWC year in and year out, but his main goals is to raise good man, prepare them for mission and become good husband and family man. Football is a secondary in his agenda.
2) I don't expect BYU to win in big games...You must prepare yourslef not to expect much. If they come out winning like Oklahoma, enjoy while you can these are rare occassion. If you want more competitive games then root for TCU or Utah or other teams.
3) I don't see anything wrong with BYU. That is why BYU stand out from the rest of the league. The system was built and focus on good man and not winning big football games.
You like it or not that the way it is at BYU.
1) Bronco/BYU is not set up for BCS championship, neither to win MWC year in and year out, but his main goals is to raise good man, prepare them for mission and become good husband and family man. Football is a secondary in his agenda.
2) I don't expect BYU to win in big games...You must prepare yourslef not to expect much. If they come out winning like Oklahoma, enjoy while you can these are rare occassion. If you want more competitive games then root for TCU or Utah or other teams.
3) I don't see anything wrong with BYU. That is why BYU stand out from the rest of the league. The system was built and focus on good man and not winning big football games.
You like it or not that the way it is at BYU.
WA_Cougar | 12:12 p.m. Oct. 29, 2009
I'd love to see BYU Football a perennial power, as they are in so many
other venues, sporting and performing arts, but not if it means re-living the
scandal days. Holmoe and the coaches can and should always strive to do better
in recruiting and in coaching, but not at the expense of the school's
integrity. If that's a problem for some fans or players, there are other
schools you probably should be rooting/playing for.
Cougar spin | 12:22 p.m. Oct. 29, 2009
I love how they keep refering to last year that they had a let down after the
TCU game. The fact that the Utes beat them had nothing to do with a let down,
it had to do with the fact that Utah was a better a team. You can maybe
attribute the Vegas bowl loss to a let down - I like to think of it as a perfect
end to your qwest, but they should have won that game.
The fact is that after last years TCU game, byu won their next few games until they played another good team, then they got beat.
I don't know how it will end up this year - but so far, I like the Utes chances
The fact is that after last years TCU game, byu won their next few games until they played another good team, then they got beat.
I don't know how it will end up this year - but so far, I like the Utes chances
BYU ISSUES | 12:29 p.m. Oct. 29, 2009
When I read this story, "choking" came to mind...
Let's all take a deep breath and just be honest about the situation. For whatever reason, BYU is simply NOT performing under the pressure of big games at home.
Instead of defending their house with emotional fire and intensity, they are playing like a gaggle of chokeaholics who are afraid to lose.
Let's all take a deep breath and just be honest about the situation. For whatever reason, BYU is simply NOT performing under the pressure of big games at home.
Instead of defending their house with emotional fire and intensity, they are playing like a gaggle of chokeaholics who are afraid to lose.
Is Ty Detmer there? | 12:40 p.m. Oct. 29, 2009
The biggest problem with BYU's offense is that they do not have an
offensive coordinator. Just because you came from a college (Texas Tech) that
has a good offense does not mean that you can transfer the same success to
another school. Robert Anae has been an offensive line coach all of his life! He
might be able to design a strategy for a game but once the game starts he has
never had the ability to adjust and change. It really isn't his fault. He
just doesn't have the experience. Bronco, BYU will never get to the next
level until you get a coordinator that has alot more experience and creativity.
I think that one of BYU's former great quarterbacks is available!
re:RBC | 12:54 p.m. Oct. 29, 2009
Love your comments. I remember when BYU hired Bronco I said I'd be happy
with a 6-6 record and no ugly publicity like we had in the Crowton years. Bronco
runs a clean program and will win his share of big games over the long haul. He
loves his players and encourages them to be more than football players.
We'd all love an undefeated team, but ten win seasons aren't bad!
Go Cougars!
Go Cougars!
re: RBC | 12:55 p.m. Oct. 29, 2009
Way to throw in the towel. I'm glad you're not BYU's head
coach.
And you need to brush up on your BYU football history a bit, too. BYU had winning seasons during the 70's before McMahon was our QB.
And you need to brush up on your BYU football history a bit, too. BYU had winning seasons during the 70's before McMahon was our QB.
RE: RBC @10:12 | 12:56 p.m. Oct. 29, 2009
Ute fan here. (must get out that up front lest I get referred to as a troll) I
think your comments are dead on. Very few teams year in and year out win 9, 10
or more games. It is a measure of a successful program. I believe what bothers
many BYU fans is not the lack wins but few wins on a national scale. (BCS) And
even more than that, it is seeing the arch rival win at the BCS level twice even
though the record in the years between BCS games doesn't equal BYU's.
I think Utah's two wins bother some BYU fans more than they will admit.
There seems to be a feeling that because of history, tradition or some other
factor that BYU is more deserving of the national recognition. I am sure that
someday BYU will play in a BCS game. Whether that be under this coaching staff
or some other doesn't matter. But some BYU fans are too eager to make a
change. Both of Utah's BCS seasons required some luck, and that is always
the way it is. Nobody or no team is perfect. Ask Bronco.
WSU Cougar Fan | 1:02 p.m. Oct. 29, 2009
Somebody please call Andy Reid or Norm Chow and offer them the coaching job.
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