Anonymous | 9:44 p.m. Oct. 27, 2009
Anae revealed himself to be unequal to the task. That is where personnel changes need to be made: Offensive Coordinator!
Young | 10:04 p.m. Oct. 27, 2009
TCU knew what plays BYU was going to run, as did a good number of people in the stands.

Anae has to make the offense unpredictable.
Jack Wade | 10:45 p.m. Oct. 27, 2009
Even SMU whose record is 3-4 was able to score 14 points against TCU.

When BYU can't score more than 7 points at home has to be an all-time low mark for the BYU football program...

Changes are needed!
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I'm not sure | 10:50 p.m. Oct. 27, 2009
Without Jacobsen, we really didn't have receivers that could run past TCU's defensive backs. The run game was working, but it could only do so much against a top 10 defensive front in the nation.

I think when you combine that, with the key plays given up at key times, then you get the result.

I really think had BYU played perfectly they may not have won, but they at least could have made it a game. When you make mistakes against a team that good this is what happens.
Really | 11:13 p.m. Oct. 27, 2009
After last year's beatdown in Texas why is their speed such a surprise?

Does being on the Mtn preclude Bronco from watching highlights or getting game film to scout TCU? (oh wait, TCU is also in the Mtn deal, hmm. Maybe Bronco needs to pay some intern to DVR the TCU games so he can have a clue what they're going to do and how good they are.)

It was clear, one team was prepared, the other team was still recovering from a week of the best practice in the history of BYU football. Seriously, the Cougars looked like they were in a fog, and had forgotten who they were and why they were there.

Let's see, the biggest roadblock to gaining a BCS berth is coming into your home stadium and you can't prepare the team better than what they were. Deer in the headlights is an appropriate way to describe the Cougars response to TCU's play. Reminds me of the big kid on the block who constantly pushes around the little kids, but when a big kid from another block comes around and pushes him, he freezes.
The game is changing.... | 11:39 p.m. Oct. 27, 2009
going away from big and slow. Going away from natural grass fields. BYU wasn't in a "fog", they were being dismantled for the second year in a row by a faster, more athletic team.

How many fast athletes would rather play on natural grass vs. the newer rubberized, synthetic fields like the one at RES? Answer, very few.

Allowing the grass to be just a little longer and the field to be watered a little longer prior to a fast, athletic team's visit isn't cutting it anymore. Change with the times or settle for second best.
wow | 12:02 a.m. Oct. 28, 2009
we need a football coach not a seminary teacher what a joke this season has been hope all is well in zion!
ONE WORD | 12:24 a.m. Oct. 28, 2009
EXPOSED. BYU was never good and the win against Oklahoma was a fluke. Don't plan on being BCS busters anytime soon, but you can enjoy in the your big brother's glory up North if you please.
elroy | 4:28 a.m. Oct. 28, 2009
Get a clue, Cougar Kingdom is not as it appears to be.
In essence, faster, younger more athletic will win out.
Patterson knows how to handle the tendencies and has out prepared the Y consistently since his Frogs entered the MWC.
Eugene | 5:58 a.m. Oct. 28, 2009
One game cannot define a program whether it is beating Oklahoma or losing to TCU. As I keep saying, playing the game has to have emotion and not be robotic.

We we were charged for OK, then too workmanlike for TCU. If you can't bring the emotion and can only explain that "we simply did not execute", I don't buy into that.

While I'm disapponted over the TCU and FSU losses, I still support the Cougs and predict a win out of their remaining games including their bowl game. 11-2 ain't bad! Should be the same record as the Utes when they lose to the Cougs and TCU in coming weeks!
Anonymous | 6:02 a.m. Oct. 28, 2009
Actually... I don't think BYU's win over Oklahoma was a fluke. Truth is that BYU seems to do very well against the best "big & strong" teams. Their problem comes when they play against "quick" teams.
10-2 | 6:23 a.m. Oct. 28, 2009
Ten and 2 is a good year after BYU wins out. Utah will lose at least 3 and maybe a total of four. BYU is a good team, however TCU has put together a great team. Bronco is the coach we need at BYU. We need to keep the young men that go to BYU in the right perspective. Their is more to life then football. I agree the play calling is troubling. Not going for it on 4and 2, Try faking a punt. their was one situation the punter could of ran for 20 years, unless our punters are too slow. Where is Norm Chow when you need him.
Excuses, excuses, excuses | 6:46 a.m. Oct. 28, 2009
"I was really impressed with their talent."

Harvey Unga averaged 6 yards per carry -- and was only given the ball 21 times.

BYU's secondary wasn't burned by speed, they blew assignments on trick plays.

BYU WAS OUT COACHED. PERIOD.

If they start believing the losses are due to "talent" (like Oklahoma didn't have "talent?"), then they will start being stupid, and gimmicky and thinking you win through psychology. Oh wait, Bronco is already way too enamored with mind games.

MAN UP, COACHES.

If you are bigger, and they are faster RUN THE BALL. Don't pass on first down so much, just knock people off the ball.

If they have a great pass rush, use three and five step drops, not seven step drops -- duh!!!

Of course, what do I know, "my level of education about football" isn't that great, which is why BYU got pasted -- AGAIN!

Let's have a fireside the night before. That'll fix it.
re: one word | 6:48 a.m. Oct. 28, 2009
Get back in the unemployment line so you can get a life and a job.
game is changing | 6:50 a.m. Oct. 28, 2009
Yeah, grass is the problem. That's why no NFL teams play on it.

How do people come up with this stuff?
Re: one word; Y fan | 6:54 a.m. Oct. 28, 2009
But they beat Oklahoma, It was no fluke. Utah beat Alabama. BYU isn't trying to "bust the BCS". BYU is simply trying to try to play like they did in 1984 be the best they can be.

to wow and young:

Anae is a good O cordinator, BYU is lucky to have him. The OL needs work but the DL and secondary needs work also. BYU needs This Bye to work things out. Don't be to harsh on the guys who coached the game against oklahoma, UNLV, Tulane, sandeigo.....
Gimme a break | 7:01 a.m. Oct. 28, 2009
We need bloggers who have a clue.

CALBLUE | 7:06 a.m. Oct. 28, 2009
Bronco should have been impressed before the game wilth TCU"s talent a little late after the game. Not sure if the talen level on the Y is that bad or TCU is that good or if it is not preparing for games like they should, may be a little of all three. Can we ever look for a MWC title in football not with the way things are going, 10-2 or 9-3 is not a bad season if we can beat Utah.
Re: The Game is Changing | 7:10 a.m. Oct. 28, 2009
"How many fast athletes would rather play on natural grass vs. the newer rubberized, synthetic fields like the one at RES? Answer, very few."

Answer: probably the best recruiting class BYU has ever had in 2010.
Texas Ute | 7:11 a.m. Oct. 28, 2009
BYU is a great football team, but a bit of a head case. BYU is not as good as TCU, so they have to play with a chip on their shoulder. It seemed to me a self-fulfilling prophecy . . . I don't think they thought they could win, and when the first bad play came around, they lost their fight. Bronco has to inspire this team . . . he needs a little fight in him . . . more church ball, less seminary teacher.
Anonymous | 7:13 a.m. Oct. 28, 2009
BYU leads the MWC in total yards per game and points per game.
nono robert nono | 7:26 a.m. Oct. 28, 2009
Robert Anae do you want to know why we cant convert 3rd downs? Because your running the ball or doing QB draws on 3rd down, that is not BYU!!! He would like to commend MAx Hall on a good game??? What is wrong with our coaching staff? Get some fire, Max played terrible, BYU played terrible, lets all admit it and make the changes, get Riley Nelson in... Max your great for 1 game we need you a yr and VS. highschool teams like UNLV, but please learn how to step up in a big game more than once a yr...
THEeyepatch | 7:29 a.m. Oct. 28, 2009
I thought Max was about to break some of BYU legend Ty Detmer's records. BYU simply got out coached, and out played. Give credit to TCU's defense, they thought who they thought they were, but this time they weren't let off the hook. If that makes any sense let me know.
re:10-2 | 7:32 a.m. Oct. 28, 2009
10-2 my friend is a good season and guess what... Its the type of season we have every year!!!! Please I wish there was a BYU fan that wanted a little bit more for the fball program instead of 10-2 seasons with the Las Vegas bowl every yr. Also, we will not win out, Air Force is 10th in total D in the nation right now which we have proven we stink VS a fast D which they have and their #1 in the nation for rushing Offense... We will lose to AF and could easily lose to Utah. Utah has something BYU doesnt, its called athletes who run faster than 5.6 40 times and DB's taller than 5 foot 2 inches. This yr will not be pretty for us, hopefully we make the papa johns.com bowl vs Alabama State Western
Perspective | 8:00 a.m. Oct. 28, 2009
BYU will still go 10-2 or 9-3 with a trip to a bowl game. I went to the Y when Matt Berry and John Beck (he wasn't really good until his senior year) were quarterbacks. I've sat in the top corner of the north endzone with room to spare all around me.

The 3 consecutive losing seasons composed 75% of my time at BYU.

Chill Y fans. Stop acting out like the lot of self righteous over achievers everyone thinks we are. Cheer hard for the Cougars and support a program that continues to improve recruiting classes and garner national attention.
Scooter | 8:08 a.m. Oct. 28, 2009
I agree that Maxie is not the one we need as nono robert nono stated. Riley Nelson is the future and brings a whole new demention. Get maxie out and put Riley in!!!
Quote of the year... | 8:16 a.m. Oct. 28, 2009
"So possibly we'll have to continue to look at scheme and personnel to combat that type of team speed".....B Mendenhall.

Coog fans get used to hearing that every year. Bronco thinks it's possibly a problem. I love it - that philosophy will keep byu a good team but will prevent them from ever reaching the next level and being great.

Thanks Bronco.

Go Utes!!! I like our chances every year against that mentality
Gretkzy | 8:18 a.m. Oct. 28, 2009
i agree changes are needed...the weaknesses are in recruiting defensive speed who can live the honor code. Also, the QB coach needs to be replaced and Anae is on the bubble IMHO. Ty Detmer has expressed interest in coaching...give him a chance at QB coach..especially with Jake Heaps coming in. Brandon Doman is not cutting it. Detmer could then take over Anae's job in a few years and then take over the HC job when Bronco retires in 9 years or less.
loveless | 8:44 a.m. Oct. 28, 2009
I can easily live with losing to a better TCU team. What I can't forgive however, is BYU not trying to win. A great example of not wanting to win was in the third quarter with the score 24-7 and BYU had the ball near midfield. It was fourth and two, and what does Bronco do? HE PUNTS!!!! Naturally, TCU gets the ball and they score on a 70 yard bomb!! 31-7 game over!! Hey, Bronco, a little suggestion, when you are playing a team that is clearly better at every position, give yourself and your team an opportunity to win. Go for it on 4th and two!!! What difference would it really have made if TCU got the ball at midfield versus on the ten yard line? Your defense couldn't stop TCU anywhere on the field!! Give your offense an opportunity to sustain a drive, get some confidence, and maybe, just maybe, get back into the game. You may still have lost, but at least you go down fighting!!!!!!!!
Bay Area Coug | 8:50 a.m. Oct. 28, 2009
Bronco is the man! What he's done for the BYU football program is amazing. Thursday's Heroes and Friday firesides make me totally admire him and the team. He's got them winning practically as much as they ever did and has consistently had them in the top 25.

That said, his coordinators are getting out coached. They do not game plan very well-especially on offense. Hill will have better years when he's got a more typical group of BYU linebackers and D-line. This year's group is good, but no NFL prospects in the crew. So I think Hill will see better days. But I think Anae has plenty of offensive talent to work with and never seems to out think and out coach the opposition. In game adjustments either don't happen or don't work.

Anae seems like a nice guy and is a good OC, but definitely not a great OC. If Bronco indeed wants to take it to the next level, he should find a great OC.
Ute Trolls are at it again | 9:18 a.m. Oct. 28, 2009
Number of comments in today's story about Utah's offense: 3

Number of comments in today's story about BYU's offense: 30

Come on, Ute fans, if your team is so superior why then do you continue to obsess over BYU and Bronco Mendenhall?
re: Bay Area Coug | 9:21 a.m. Oct. 28, 2009
First off, I agree about thursday and friday stuff, thats great. Here is where it is wrong, our linebackers and D-lineman are the only average defenders we have, its our secondary that is terrible and Jamie Hill is the one who recruited them, I think it is a sign when SDSU says no to Logan and we jump all over him like we won the lottery when this kid is a divison II DB at best, him and Bradley are terrible along with Rich. Our D recruiting is terrible, Robert Anae has no excuse, he can beat up on UNLV's all day we need some creativty and execution VS good teams, like TCU... With that said the truth of it is that BYU just isnt very good and TCU is excellent, great recruiting, great coaching, a lot of fire... We lack all of those, but the upside is we have firesides for the players!! Suppppperr duppper Cougs, we beat everyone there!!!!
Fundamental Problem | 9:24 a.m. Oct. 28, 2009
BYU has to face the fact that what it takes to have a high-caliber athletic program and what it means to be "BYU" are drifting farther and farther apart.

At some point, BYU will have to decide whether it wants to have an inter-collegiate athletic program or whether it wants to adhere to "BYU" standards. Unfortunately, that day will come, and as an alum, I hope that the decision is made in favor of maintaining BYU's academic and conduct standards.
Re: Scooter | 9:25 a.m. Oct. 28, 2009
Okay, Riley Nelson brings a whole new what? What is demention? I finally realized you meant to say "a whole new dimension" and not that Riley was somehow a demented person. Too bad this doesn't have a spell check. Some things you can let slide and others are pretty funny. This one was very funny.
We have recruited well this last year with the verbals we have for 2010. Where we have a weakness is in getting tall, athletic, and fast cornerbacks. We don't need to change the honor code. We need young men that will follow the honor code. In the past we've had some great safties, linebackers, and defensive linemen. We've always had trouble with corners. We've had some good smaller corners.
We just don't get the tall ones. We do our best with corners when we go after some successful JC corners who are a bit taller and more athletic.
I like Patterson's idea of recruiting speed and shifting them to another position that is needed. I do think we could follow that model with corners.
Vegas Baby! | 9:27 a.m. Oct. 28, 2009
As a Cougar fan I am disappointed in the performance against TCU. The one thing I did see that looked familiar (see FSU game) is that the Refs were letting the "athletic" TCU cornerbacks use a handful of jersey as part of their strategy to guard the "very atheletic" BYU receivers. If they don't call that, BYU has no chance. I wonder if that is the way Gary Patterson coaches them to play--it isn't cheating, unless you get caught. Hmmm. That said, I don't think BYU wins that game last Saturday, anyway. I just wish that the MWC didn't have the worst refs on the planet.
RockOn | 9:28 a.m. Oct. 28, 2009
Play of the game... 1st Q. 2nd and 2 while driving. Everyone figured it to be a passing down. Hall behind center to drop back and TCU rushed heavily. 3rd and 7 resulted. Bad call. Bad position. Rest of game followed suit. If we'd have rushed or gone to shotgun, 3rd and 1 at least and drive alive. Could have been 7-7 at the quarter. Disaster instead.
RE: Rivals | 9:31 a.m. Oct. 28, 2009
BYU fans claim to have a top recruiting class coming in 2010. Although Rivals and Scout rate the class CURENTLY between 12 & 22 the reality is that this group will end up somewhere between 30-50. Outside of Heaps the class is pretty typical — big and slow Mormons. The reason for the somewhat high CURRENT ranking is based on the number of scholarships (25 and maxed out for the year) BYU has offered to date — which averages a 2.8 star average. Utah has 14 scholarships with an average of 3 stars. I would not be surprised that when all is said and done the Utah recruiting class of 2010 will be ranked higher than BYU.
LaVar the Utah Cat | 9:44 a.m. Oct. 28, 2009
Re: Perspective
I don't know about the "over achievers" part of your comment, but you certainly have the "self-righteous" part right.
2010 | 10:02 a.m. Oct. 28, 2009
BYU's recruiting class is great next yr... for offense... GET SOME DEFENSE!!!!! Common guys seriously, please someone recruit some secondary, get some speed. I love TCU's idea for defense, put Tonga and other huge FB's and RB's at D-End and lineback, teach them how to play it, that is genius. Byu out done once again
Moose on the Loose | 10:02 a.m. Oct. 28, 2009
I think Utah's defense is going to do the same thing to BYU that TCU did: Shut us down.

Utah will win that game going away.
223speed | 10:20 a.m. Oct. 28, 2009
Everyone can yak about speed, execution, etc, etc but the fact remains that the Cougs have just not 'clicked' since the Tulane game. Seems like something is amiss. No confidence. Just can't seem to maintain any consistency in any game. Hopefully they can get things polished up. Go Cougs!!
10-2 ??? | 10:29 a.m. Oct. 28, 2009
How about 6-6? I think that's more likely based on how we're playing lately. I love the optimism of some BYU fans. Im just don't see how anyone thinks we'll go 10-2 with tough games against Air Force and Utah ahead. Wyoming may even be interesting.
TCU too much talent for Y | 10:41 a.m. Oct. 28, 2009
the penalties, the inept passing by Hall, the protection break down all stem from the fact that TCU was simply faster and much more athletic than BYU. If BYU wants to compete with TCU going forward they need better athletes. If not then just settle for third place in the MWC every year. Pretty simple. Utah's defense will also shut the Y down because they are on par with TCU athletically. Bronco can analyze and over analyze but it all boils down to getting better players.
"Excellent recruiting efforts" | 10:42 a.m. Oct. 28, 2009
This is what Andy Staples of Sports Illustrated online said after ranking BYU at #24 in his Top 25 Power Rankings this week:

"This certainly wasn't where the Cougars expected to be after they shocked Oklahoma in Week 1. Unfortunately, despite coach Bronco Mendenhall's excellent recruiting efforts, BYU is not at an elite level quite yet."

Even neutral national columnists recognize that Bronco is doing a great job of recruiting and building the program. Only Ute Trolls and BYU Whiners are so dense as to not see it.
Edwards better than Bronco | 10:43 a.m. Oct. 28, 2009
Lavell was a much better recruiter than Bronco. Edwards got better athletes for sure especially on defense. I don't know if Bronco is purposely recruiting these kids or if he is being told to but either way BYU needs a player upgrade otherwise they will finish third every year behind TCU and Utah.
Big Fan | 11:01 a.m. Oct. 28, 2009
Yewties?? Keep talking smack...I guess BYU can always adopt the Utah Winning Philosphy??

So what if we lose to everyone, just so long as we beat BYU!!

Go yews!!
kw | 11:05 a.m. Oct. 28, 2009
I think it all boils down to getting some speed. Especially on defense and at the split end position. Our DB's can't stay up with opponents recievers, and we need more Jacobsen type receivers to stretch out opponents defense. We have never had an abundance of speed that I can ever remember.
Anonymous | 11:09 a.m. Oct. 28, 2009
Why so much whining about running the ball? Unga had 123 and easily could have had 200. Running wasn't the problem; abandoning the run was! Stick with what works, Cougars.
Utah is not TCU or BYU | 11:09 a.m. Oct. 28, 2009
I think the Utes are not TCU and never will be TCU. TCU will beat the Utes going away.

BYU will finally take some lessons from what others do to succeed against one of our opponents (after watching TCU whip Utah) and BYU will win, going away, against a Utah team, when they are reeling from their defeat in Fort Worth.

Or Utah will whip TCU and whip BYU every single year, because they never have a down year like 3 out of the last 4, or 40 out of the last 50.
re:"Excellent recruiting efforts | 11:31 a.m. Oct. 28, 2009
Holy cow what cool aide are you drinking guy? BYU got exposed 70-14 over two years against TCU and the obvious reason for anyone who actually paid attention was the mismatch in talent level of the two programs. When Edwards ran the show BYU had some awesome defensive players many of which found their way into the NFL. How many of Bronco's defensive recruits are in the NFL or even have a chance? None of BYU's defense would start on TCU or Utah. None. If the recruiting improves you will see BYU winning conference championships again otherwise BYU will continually finish third behind TCU and Utah.

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