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Management vs Leadership | 10:04 p.m. Oct. 26, 2009
BYU is a well managed team. They are incredibly successful against mediocre
teams. But the ability to rise to the next level seems out of their grasp.
What happened to Bronco's fire? The team was not ready in 5 of the last 6
big games. (TCU, Utah, Arizona, Florida State, TCU) with OU being the
exception, BYU having the whole offseason to prepare for that game. They also
seem to start strong and fade as the season progresses. I think he is wearing
way too many hats.
It's not that hard Bronco | 10:24 p.m. Oct. 26, 2009
Realize that not every game is the same and certain games need more preparation.
There are certain games we need to circle on the schedule.
Get your team ready emotionally. If I hear that the team came out flat one more time I am going to puke.
Hold your other coaches accountable. RA and JH need to be told what to do and if they don't they get fired. There seats need to be real hot.
More Patten and less Freud.
Seems like Bronco has analysis paralysis.
Get your team ready emotionally. If I hear that the team came out flat one more time I am going to puke.
Hold your other coaches accountable. RA and JH need to be told what to do and if they don't they get fired. There seats need to be real hot.
More Patten and less Freud.
Seems like Bronco has analysis paralysis.
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Once again. | 10:52 p.m. Oct. 26, 2009
"I didn't think it was necessarily their speed that hurt us,"
said safety Andrew Rich. "It was the mistakes that we made."
Do these guys get it? If it is mistakes by BYU that result in losses to good teams, why don't they fix those mistakes. We have been listening to these kind of excuses for the past 3 or 4 years. Mistakes should not be the norm. If a team makes a mistake or two it will result in a score or turnover occasionally. But to get dominated in all phases of the game (with the exception of special teams according to Coach, I guess missing a field goal is acceptable) is not merely mistakes. They got beat by a much better team. I believe it would go a long way to righting this ship to actually acknowledge and admit that they got beat rather than beat themselves. I don't pretend to know X's and O's but I can see for myself when one team clearly is not as good as another. Time to recognize that TCU "whupped up" on BYU because they were better. And again Magic Happens!
Do these guys get it? If it is mistakes by BYU that result in losses to good teams, why don't they fix those mistakes. We have been listening to these kind of excuses for the past 3 or 4 years. Mistakes should not be the norm. If a team makes a mistake or two it will result in a score or turnover occasionally. But to get dominated in all phases of the game (with the exception of special teams according to Coach, I guess missing a field goal is acceptable) is not merely mistakes. They got beat by a much better team. I believe it would go a long way to righting this ship to actually acknowledge and admit that they got beat rather than beat themselves. I don't pretend to know X's and O's but I can see for myself when one team clearly is not as good as another. Time to recognize that TCU "whupped up" on BYU because they were better. And again Magic Happens!
Anonymous | 10:55 p.m. Oct. 26, 2009
Bronco is fine coach and Max is a fine QB!
The entire defense and the offensive line was more to blame than max hall for this loss.
The entire defense and the offensive line was more to blame than max hall for this loss.
MINUS 8 | 11:49 p.m. Oct. 26, 2009
There is only a handful of teams who can boast of a better record over the last
five years (44-15).
The COUGARS beat the teams they are supposed to beat.
They are a REGIONAL POWER.
The coaches do a good job with the talent pool available to BYU.
Solve the TCU problem, beat UTAH as well as one other BCS level team and the COUGARS are in a BCS BOWL.
Obviously, not an easy assignment.
Nothing worth having is easy.
However, it could be worse.
NEBRASKA lost to a team they have not lost to in 30+ years. They were a MINUS 8 in turnovers in that game. The fans are after the HC who has only been on the job two years.
LaVell always said he would rather lose and live in PROVO than win and live(?)in Laramie (or some other garden spot for that matter; your choice).
One only has to look at the the 24/7 spotlight coaches are in today to realize how fortunate fans are to have top level coaches as well as an envied football product.
It will only get better.
The COUGARS beat the teams they are supposed to beat.
They are a REGIONAL POWER.
The coaches do a good job with the talent pool available to BYU.
Solve the TCU problem, beat UTAH as well as one other BCS level team and the COUGARS are in a BCS BOWL.
Obviously, not an easy assignment.
Nothing worth having is easy.
However, it could be worse.
NEBRASKA lost to a team they have not lost to in 30+ years. They were a MINUS 8 in turnovers in that game. The fans are after the HC who has only been on the job two years.
LaVell always said he would rather lose and live in PROVO than win and live(?)in Laramie (or some other garden spot for that matter; your choice).
One only has to look at the the 24/7 spotlight coaches are in today to realize how fortunate fans are to have top level coaches as well as an envied football product.
It will only get better.
Funny title... | 12:10 a.m. Oct. 27, 2009
One bye week is not enough time for Bronco to figure out what is going on.
It's time for an athletic director to tell him to step down, just go back
to being a defensive coach, something he is good at! OH BUT WAIT...Bronco
would rather have fine young men with a great work ethic. If that is true, maybe
he should try practicing his fine young men a little more.
(Too bad you lost out on the Krugers boys! Remember bronco saying he has won the instate recruiting wars every year? HA HA HA!!!!!
(Too bad you lost out on the Krugers boys! Remember bronco saying he has won the instate recruiting wars every year? HA HA HA!!!!!
Seattleview | 12:33 a.m. Oct. 27, 2009
I think Bronco is a capable coach but I dont know if he will be willing to let
football become more of a priority than all of the other stuff he focuses on.
Will he change schemes, recruit a little differently, let emotion play a part of
making football fun, or just recite the business management jargon.
Broncos experience at BYU probably peaked during the 2 year stretch when they won back to back championships. I doubt BYU will do that again and maybe lucky to win the conference once every 3rd to 4th year. It probably is the new normal.
One thing for sure is that it is not worth worrying about. This is definitely a time when it pays to be less fully vested in following BYU.
Broncos experience at BYU probably peaked during the 2 year stretch when they won back to back championships. I doubt BYU will do that again and maybe lucky to win the conference once every 3rd to 4th year. It probably is the new normal.
One thing for sure is that it is not worth worrying about. This is definitely a time when it pays to be less fully vested in following BYU.
We're hanging in there | 12:35 a.m. Oct. 27, 2009
The program has needed time to get through the growing pains and get the new,
improved players out there. We'll start to see changes with the new guys
next year. I think right now we're doing the best that we can.
In a state of denial?...... | 1:06 a.m. Oct. 27, 2009
Just wondering if the Cougs are denying what the lack of speed on their team is
doing to them. It is obvious to everyone else that when you spread them out and
they have to cover a lot of field quickly and they don't have the speed to
cover, you are going to get hurt. Seems to me that while execution and
management are important, if speed is missing, it negates everything else.
The buck stops here | 6:59 a.m. Oct. 27, 2009
Everybody can make excusses or try to lay blame on what ever to justify the
lackluster play of BYU. I am an avid supporter of BYU but over the past two
years I have noticed that Bronco seems to fall into a phylosophical deminta when
trying to resolve these kinds of losses.
May I just say the as fine a gentleman as Bronco is, he lacks the fire in the belley that you see from other coaches. I saw it in the OU game but not since. He stands around with his arms folded rather than getting in the face of his coaches and players at a time when his leadership needs to shine.
Bronco, what needs to be overhaulsed just might be your approach to preparation, either you want a strong winning team that plays with intense physical talent and ability or you glide along taking a kick in the teath now and then and remain a good but not a GREAT team.
The buck stops at Bronco desk. SORRY
May I just say the as fine a gentleman as Bronco is, he lacks the fire in the belley that you see from other coaches. I saw it in the OU game but not since. He stands around with his arms folded rather than getting in the face of his coaches and players at a time when his leadership needs to shine.
Bronco, what needs to be overhaulsed just might be your approach to preparation, either you want a strong winning team that plays with intense physical talent and ability or you glide along taking a kick in the teath now and then and remain a good but not a GREAT team.
The buck stops at Bronco desk. SORRY
South Carolina Ute Fan | 7:07 a.m. Oct. 27, 2009
"Once Again" is right on. For years all we hear is how The TDS never
loses - they only beat themselves.
Time to admit there are better teams out there and you just lost to one of them.
One of the good things about the TDS dominance in the 80's - it made my Utes hungry. They knew they were not good back then. Look at us now! Even in a rebuilding year we are 6-1. The attitude is we still need to get better to compete at the BCS Busting level.
Cancel the newspaer subscriptions that tell the TDS how great they will be before the season starts. You guys do too much chest thumping before the first snap of the season and poof - one loss to a better team and the dream is dead.
Follow the lead of the Utes - one game at a time. Style points don't matter - just the weekly W.
Go Utes!
Time to admit there are better teams out there and you just lost to one of them.
One of the good things about the TDS dominance in the 80's - it made my Utes hungry. They knew they were not good back then. Look at us now! Even in a rebuilding year we are 6-1. The attitude is we still need to get better to compete at the BCS Busting level.
Cancel the newspaer subscriptions that tell the TDS how great they will be before the season starts. You guys do too much chest thumping before the first snap of the season and poof - one loss to a better team and the dream is dead.
Follow the lead of the Utes - one game at a time. Style points don't matter - just the weekly W.
Go Utes!
Biffo | 7:22 a.m. Oct. 27, 2009
Bronco says it's all about execution. Well, he's wrong. It's
also about motivation and play calling.
Bronco blames the boys and not himself when he says that it was a lack of execution. Bronco, it's your fault. You had a lousy game plan and you didn't get them ready. He needs to think about how he and the other coaches are not doing their job - they are letting the program down. BTW, do they work full or part time, these coaches?
Bronco blames the boys and not himself when he says that it was a lack of execution. Bronco, it's your fault. You had a lousy game plan and you didn't get them ready. He needs to think about how he and the other coaches are not doing their job - they are letting the program down. BTW, do they work full or part time, these coaches?
Re: Minus 8 | 7:38 a.m. Oct. 27, 2009
After reading your posting I think you are minus a brain. Thanks for making my
morning with a good laugh!!
In retrospect... | 7:47 a.m. Oct. 27, 2009
I watched the game again last night (call me a glutton for punishment..).
Anyway, I have to say that I don't think the cougs looked all that bad.
Except for a few glaring mistakes which TCU turned into scores, I think we
looked pretty solid. Bronco may be right: TCU out executed us and couple that
with their speed, the more deserving team came out on top. Yes we have a slower
backfield, but there was only one "over-the-top" play were due to a
dropped assignment, we got burned. There were way too many missed tackles in
the backfield. Our offensive line did not protect Hall as long as he needed it.
There were some critical penalties that stuffed our momentum and some calls
that could have gone either way. I think for the most part, the stars were just
in alignment for the Frogs. They're a good team but I don't think the
final score is really indicative as to how good a team the cougs are. It
wouldn't surprise me to see them win the rest of their games and end up
with a one loss conference record. Not bad.
Scooter | 7:54 a.m. Oct. 27, 2009
I would love to see Riley Nielson get some playing time. As an avid cougar
supporter, I want to see what the future will bring. Riley will bring a new
demention to the QB position. Lets face the fact Max will never win the big
games.
Perplexed | 8:10 a.m. Oct. 27, 2009
What I find astonishing is the fact that BYU football players and coaches cannot
sacrifice approx 4 months of the year to their craft. By this I mean putting in
some extra time during the season especially when they are performing so
poorly.
Let's get real. I have to work overtime at my job on many occasions. It's called WORK! Sometimes I can't do everything with my family at all times because I have to pay bills or my employer simply requires it. It's called, "Dealing with the REAL WORLD."
Not giving your all, 110%, just isn't acceptable!
Let's get real. I have to work overtime at my job on many occasions. It's called WORK! Sometimes I can't do everything with my family at all times because I have to pay bills or my employer simply requires it. It's called, "Dealing with the REAL WORLD."
Not giving your all, 110%, just isn't acceptable!
SoCalTrueBlue | 8:24 a.m. Oct. 27, 2009
I've followed BYU football since 1973. Take away the Crowton years, and BYU
has a consistently good teams. The main difference the last few years is that
Urban Meyer raised the quality of Ute football dramatically, and Wittingham has
maintained its high level, and TCU's Patterson is a phenomenal coach with
some star players. BYU's incoming recruiting class will be the best ever.
Bronco is an excellent coach. TCU is just flat better than us this year. I still
love my Cougars, and their coaches, except for their occasional studity on
offensive calls, like running a draw play on third and 11, or going for it on
4th and short in enemey territory, which let SDSU back into the game.
Bandwagon fans | 8:25 a.m. Oct. 27, 2009
Why don't all of you bandwagon fans go jump in with BSU. Maybe you can
switch to Tulsa in a few years. Then if you can stomach it, go with Utah when
they have another great season in a few years. Give me a break. TCU is a great
team this year. BYU had some stupid penalties sfter they had held TCU on 3rd
down a few times. TCU got some big plays. BYU is good, not great this year.
EVERY team has ups and downs. Bandwagon fans need not apply. What next - are
you going to start crying for Crowton to come back?
Anonymous | 8:30 a.m. Oct. 27, 2009
Well, everyone here has found their whipping boy! I like many of you are
frustrated and disappointed in the loss. I don't think any of us would
disagree that it would have been nice if the TCU defensive end was playing for
BYU. He was absolutely awesome in his blitz routes and schooled our defensive
tackles (so much for our 3rd down conversion %). I think with the talent we
have on the team will require some adjustments, on both sides of the ball. The
3 - 4 defense does not have the dominance to create enough pressure on the
quarterbacks. The teams we have played are getting tons of yards because a three
man rush can't get to the QB. It leaves the DB's to be literally
picked apart. I for one am not going to abandon the ship, or call for the HC
job. Patience, the best is yet to come and will only take a few more recruiting
classes like the one this year to make the difference. I attended BYU at a time
when being close in the score was the best thing to a win and don't want
those days again.
Duh | 8:31 a.m. Oct. 27, 2009
"Now, possibly changes have to be put in place for us to achieve that next
step"
No kidding Bronco? Where did you get your first clue? And you call us fans ignorant! Get a clue buddy.
Don't be talking about the next step. You've taken BYU football 2 steps backwards with consecutive "wood shed" beatings at the hands of TCU. Either take that next step or get out of the way so somebody else can.
No kidding Bronco? Where did you get your first clue? And you call us fans ignorant! Get a clue buddy.
Don't be talking about the next step. You've taken BYU football 2 steps backwards with consecutive "wood shed" beatings at the hands of TCU. Either take that next step or get out of the way so somebody else can.
BYU in Tucson | 8:34 a.m. Oct. 27, 2009
All BYU needs to win and go to the next level is.....1 or 2 animals on the
defensive line. The guys we have are good. But we need a Jerry Hughes, a Tommy
Blake, a Gerald Mcoy. Someone to get to the QB on every play, disrupt every run,
get in the backfield and cause some havoc. We need a guy who scares the whole
offence. The hit or miss secondary BYU usually gets won't matter as much if
we can get the best devensive end in the country. We need a killer.
RE:Bandwagaon fans | 8:36 a.m. Oct. 27, 2009
Crowton, please come back! I can't take any more of this Bronco
Mendenhall!!!
Cougar Blue | 8:43 a.m. Oct. 27, 2009
Let's face it, BYU is just not that good against speed. We can beat the
Wy's the UNLV's etc. but we rarely win the big games, very rarely. I
guess that it's kind of like the one long and straight drive that you hit
playing a round of golf that keeps bringing you back. You think to yourself,
"if I could just keep my head down, I could do that every time!" Of
course, it isn't true, but we keep tricking ourselves into believing that
BYU is better than they are.
How about we recruit someone that is taller than 5'6" to play db. Honestly, Logan may be a great guy, but he is too short to be out there on the field during key plays. Nearly every time the opposing team needs a first down, they throw to his side. Did we not learn our lesson with Justin Robinson a few years ago? They claimed that he was 5'9" which means he was more like 5'7." What does that say about Logan? The guy can probably shop at the kid's gap! No more "we-learned-our-lesson" excuses!
How about we recruit someone that is taller than 5'6" to play db. Honestly, Logan may be a great guy, but he is too short to be out there on the field during key plays. Nearly every time the opposing team needs a first down, they throw to his side. Did we not learn our lesson with Justin Robinson a few years ago? They claimed that he was 5'9" which means he was more like 5'7." What does that say about Logan? The guy can probably shop at the kid's gap! No more "we-learned-our-lesson" excuses!
the disconnect | 8:55 a.m. Oct. 27, 2009
Virginia put up 14 pts on TCU, Texas State put up 21 pts, Clemson held TCU to 14
pts, SMU put up 14 pts on them and Air Force came within 3 points of beating TCU
at AF. Why did BYU lay an egg against TCU? Yes, TCU is the superior team this
year but BYU had a much harder time playing TCU than any other team has (minus
CSU). TCU punted 6x and so did BYU. What's the disconnect? Who wanted it
more? BYU can beat anyone of those teams TCU has played so far. Why
couldn't BYU show up against TCU? Its about confidence, the desire to win
and knowing they can beat any team they face. Where I see the disconnect lies is
with Bronco getting his team up for the game. They play so vanilla. Where's
the "lay it all out there" mentale? Where's the desire?
That's the disconnect. This BYU team is loaded with talent - much like the
'96 team was position by position. Clearly this BYU team isn't coached
as well or as motivated as that team was. Bronco is good - just get your team
hyped more.
MTW | 9:09 a.m. Oct. 27, 2009
This is the Lords school and Bronco is our Moses. He will part the RED sea and
take us to the promised land of BCS busters.
LaVar the Utah Cat | 9:21 a.m. Oct. 27, 2009
I am a Utah fan, freely admitted. I am not going to disparage the BYU team or
coaches. They have done a very credible job after the Crowton disaster.
"Frothing at the mouth" fans - another matter. Those fair-weather fans
calling for the dismissal of your coaches are unbelievable. It is likely that
no MWC team will do better year in and year out than BYU. The fact that they
are up there with TCU and Utah every year shows they are good. If you, as a BYU
fan, cannot settle for a very good team every year, then you need to find
another venue to address your insecurities.
Re: South Carolina Ute Fan | 9:34 a.m. Oct. 27, 2009
Not sure I agree with you completely, but you do make some good points and
certainly deserve credit for honesty when you openly admit the Utes were putrid
doormats throughout most of the 80's.
Most Ute fans refuse to acknowledge any history of their program prior to 2003.
Most Ute fans refuse to acknowledge any history of their program prior to 2003.
What a Great Game | 9:47 a.m. Oct. 27, 2009
Isn't football a great game. With this economy football is a great
release. Just "let it out" find mistakes with everyone and every team,
tell them why they are making them and how to fix them.
How would you like the media to follow you around and put your performance out there so everyone could tell you what's wrong, as if you didn't know.
Football is great, BYU is great, a loss doesn't spell gloom and doom. BYU will win again. Take a deep breath and go fix your oun fence.
How would you like the media to follow you around and put your performance out there so everyone could tell you what's wrong, as if you didn't know.
Football is great, BYU is great, a loss doesn't spell gloom and doom. BYU will win again. Take a deep breath and go fix your oun fence.
Cougarf@n | 9:55 a.m. Oct. 27, 2009
Admitting that you just lost to a better team is a way of putting the focus on
the opposing team rather than focusing on what BYU could improve on and avoids
accountability within the program. Is Bronco really making excuses by
effectively saying, "yeah, we screwed up and we need to improve?" I
think after the loss this is exactly the right approach to take to find ways to
improve your team looking back at the game.
That said, I get frustrated with the coaching staff taking this approach going into the big games. BYU still needs to form a gameplan that exploits the other team's weaknesses rather than ignoring the opponent, focusing only on themselves and preparing the same way. I suppose it may be wise to mitigate injuries by shortening practices, but I'd like to see Anae throw in three or four plays in big games that the opposing team hasn't already seen on film, and heaven forbid BYU should throw out a trick play, misdirection play or a screen pass in order to even the score against a better team like TCU.
So I agree with Bronco, but only to a point.
That said, I get frustrated with the coaching staff taking this approach going into the big games. BYU still needs to form a gameplan that exploits the other team's weaknesses rather than ignoring the opponent, focusing only on themselves and preparing the same way. I suppose it may be wise to mitigate injuries by shortening practices, but I'd like to see Anae throw in three or four plays in big games that the opposing team hasn't already seen on film, and heaven forbid BYU should throw out a trick play, misdirection play or a screen pass in order to even the score against a better team like TCU.
So I agree with Bronco, but only to a point.
SJ | 10:09 a.m. Oct. 27, 2009
Bandwagon fans disgust. Either your a fan or your not but don't go back
and forth. Support the team 100% or find another one to follow.
brad | 10:25 a.m. Oct. 27, 2009
I think one of the first things you should look at is stop the practice of
denigrating your players. After every blowout loss we hear that our players
aren't good enough athletes to compete, so the coaches have to
"scheme" in order to compete. Air Force didn't seem to have any
trouble staying in the game with TCU, and I like to think we have more talent
then Air Force. I put this loss on the coaches. And how about a little
emotion? I feel like I'm always listening to a business training seminar.
re:the disconnect | 10:34 a.m. Oct. 27, 2009
70-14 combined score over the past two years for the TCU / BYU game has nothing
to do with getting "hyped up". TCU was very business like in their
brutal beating of the slower, smaller , returned missionaries from Provo.
Execution is a by-product of talent and TCU has it - BYU doesn't. Remember
Florida State? Same thing happened. BYU is fine with the Colorado States and
UNLV's but when the play a ranking team they get destroyed and there is a
reason for that - TALENT!! Anyone watching the game saw the talent mis-match
between the two schools.
You don't see Utah .... | 10:36 a.m. Oct. 27, 2009
You don't see Utah getting destroyed like this - EVER. The reason - Utah
has the athletes on defense to compete with anyone. BYU doesn't. Face it
zoobies.
RE: In Retrospect.... | 10:48 a.m. Oct. 27, 2009
Really? You thought they looked solid?! What channel were you watching the
re-broadcast on? Maybe they edited out all of the ugliness for you die hard
fans...that's the only way you could be seeing a solid team in that game,
unless you were talking about TCU.
Coach | 10:57 a.m. Oct. 27, 2009
It was obvious that our charges were not in the proper mental paradigm necessary
for victorious endeavors, for that I take responsibility. We, as a, program, and
I, as their leader, must be held to the higher standard that is the banner of
BYU. What matters most, as my dayplanner says, is that in the final analysis,
these men emerge as the next great leaders of men at fireside.
TheHailstorm | 11:01 a.m. Oct. 27, 2009
Don't you blew bloods ever get sick of the excuse..we didn't execute.
Bronco uses that excuse every game and It is way getting too lame for a reason.
Poor performance, loss , win , all we get from him is " We didn't
execute " and waalllahh , he's off the hook !
offensive and defensive line? | 11:06 a.m. Oct. 27, 2009
To be seriously honest max hall Choked again. He wasn't doing his job in
passing the ball down field to get the 1st down. That was his biggest mistake.
BYU has everything good for em EXCEPT a QUARTERBACK!
Cougarduder | 11:07 a.m. Oct. 27, 2009
I become frustrated with Bronco's conservative approach on offense and
defense. If your corners are average, you have pressure the quarterback. If
you can't with 4 guys, send 5. If you can't with 5, send 6. Everybody
knows what BYU is going to do on offense and defense. I saw one new running play
that worked pretty well. But that was it. BYU runs a traditional BYU offense
that is effective but predictable. But when you face superior athletes, and they
execute, you lose. That's why BYU generally wins the games against
inferior athletes and loses the games against superior athletes. The BYU passing
tradition started because BYU could not compete with the traditional offenses of
the time. They had to add the element of surprise, come up with something that
was new, unexpected. I am not saying BYU needs to change its basic offense. But
they need to play on the edge and be innovative. Being conservative is great
with superior athletes, but if we are a few short, lets make it up with
imagination and creativity. Lets leave the other teams guessing, even just a
little.
the disconnect- i agree | 11:08 a.m. Oct. 27, 2009
A great assessment on the blog of the debacle Saturday-
I'm not as concerned about the defense as I am the offense- our supposed strength this season that with all the veterans would be unstoppable.
It seems to me that the coaching staff comes up with their game-plan during the week and then when it isn't working they are either too proud to adapt and change it (or too dumb to see that it's not working).
Even us ignorant fans could tell that things needed adapted and changed and it didn't happen. If nothing else, put Nelson in for a series or two and run your own 'wildcat' offense or some option and change things up a bit, or quit trying to throw on second and short and suffering sacks. Where is the adjustments by the coaching staff?
It seems to me that they feel that by making adjustments during the game they are admitting that their game-plan wasn't all that great- and they are just too arrogant to admit that. Even after the game it's all about poor execution- never about the wrong schemes.
Wake up coaches- just adjust as needed.
I'm not as concerned about the defense as I am the offense- our supposed strength this season that with all the veterans would be unstoppable.
It seems to me that the coaching staff comes up with their game-plan during the week and then when it isn't working they are either too proud to adapt and change it (or too dumb to see that it's not working).
Even us ignorant fans could tell that things needed adapted and changed and it didn't happen. If nothing else, put Nelson in for a series or two and run your own 'wildcat' offense or some option and change things up a bit, or quit trying to throw on second and short and suffering sacks. Where is the adjustments by the coaching staff?
It seems to me that they feel that by making adjustments during the game they are admitting that their game-plan wasn't all that great- and they are just too arrogant to admit that. Even after the game it's all about poor execution- never about the wrong schemes.
Wake up coaches- just adjust as needed.
Bill from Oregon | 11:11 a.m. Oct. 27, 2009
I am a BYU fan, win or lose. I've read your comments and its hard for me
to understand how you can also be BYU fans. On Saturday Oct. 24 50% of the
football teams lost for various reasons. As difficult this is to say, BYU lost
to a much better team. I'm proud of the achievments that Bronco and his
coaching staff have brought to the university and with defeat we sometimes
forget those achievments. I would like to thank Max Hall and the rest of the
football team for all the exciting football games that they did win. Go
Cougs!!!!
Re: MTW | 11:13 a.m. Oct. 27, 2009
Dude, quit posting, you're missing noon devotional at the 'tute.
ignorance | 11:14 a.m. Oct. 27, 2009
I'm not calling for Bronco's job, but do feel he needs to learn to
adjust and adapt to the strength of his players, not make the players adapt to
the program.
As for Anae, however, I do not understand why he can't or won't make adjustments during the game. A series or two with Riley Nelson in the game in the first half would have changed things up enough to slow down the pass rush and throw TCU off a bit.
Oh well, at least Bronco blamed this on his players not executing again instead of on us ignorant fans for questioning Hall's ability again, or for some who even left the game in the 3rd quarter.
As for Anae, however, I do not understand why he can't or won't make adjustments during the game. A series or two with Riley Nelson in the game in the first half would have changed things up enough to slow down the pass rush and throw TCU off a bit.
Oh well, at least Bronco blamed this on his players not executing again instead of on us ignorant fans for questioning Hall's ability again, or for some who even left the game in the 3rd quarter.
Livid | 11:17 a.m. Oct. 27, 2009
Enough! Reading this article convinces me that Bronco is out of his depth here.
It's time for him to go. Who will join me on the bandwagon? Who can we
find to replace him? Do you think Whit would leave Utah if the offer was right?
Defense Wins | 11:21 a.m. Oct. 27, 2009
Prior the BYU game TCU had held their oppenents to an average of 13 points per
game during their previous 4 games. BYU had allowed opponents to score 23
points per game for their previous 5 games. The old saying, "Defense wins
games" is true. BYU should have had a better offensive game plan to counter
TCU's defense. They didn't and they lost. Let's hope that BYU
will figure out how to game plan against TCU's defense in the future.
MWC Fan | 11:29 a.m. Oct. 27, 2009
BYU fans here is reality. You will always win from 8 to 10 games a year, go to
bowl game every year, have outstanding young men to watch play football and have
what many fans around the country and conference would love to have. Quit
dreaming about being a National Champion, a BSC Buster and a constantly
undefeated top ten team. It will never happen. The focus at BYU from an
Administration standpoint is to be exactly where you are. To climb higher
something will have to be sacrificed and that is not going to happen. Know what
you are and be happy that you have more than most of the country, while
maintaing an integrety that is lacking in almost all programs that you envy.
Interesting | 11:32 a.m. Oct. 27, 2009
I'd like to comment on this observation. "The BYU passing tradition
started because BYU could not compete with the traditional offenses of the
time."
Do you think, given the talent that is available to BYU, that we'd be better running an option attack like Air Force?
Do you think, given the talent that is available to BYU, that we'd be better running an option attack like Air Force?
Where's the Fire? | 11:38 a.m. Oct. 27, 2009
I want to know why BYU didn't have the same "spark" or
"fire" or whatever you want to call it against TCU that it does when
it plays against Utah?
As a Utah fan I genuinely thought before the season started that this was a year when BYU could run the table. No, I don't hate BYU. Just the opposite, I hope for their success most of the time and admired what they did against the Sooners. Great game!
I can tell you when BYU took the field in their first game this year, they had fire in their eyes. I can tell you right now the same will be true in the last game this year.
What happened in the FSU and TCU games is a mystery.
Yes, both or those teams are very good. And, yes they are atheletic and fast. No more atheletic or fast than Oklahoma, however, I can guarantee you that.
I believe a team has to match the intesity of its opponent. It's that simple.
I know BYU can do this and will do it again on November 28. So, why not against TCU?
As a Utah fan I genuinely thought before the season started that this was a year when BYU could run the table. No, I don't hate BYU. Just the opposite, I hope for their success most of the time and admired what they did against the Sooners. Great game!
I can tell you when BYU took the field in their first game this year, they had fire in their eyes. I can tell you right now the same will be true in the last game this year.
What happened in the FSU and TCU games is a mystery.
Yes, both or those teams are very good. And, yes they are atheletic and fast. No more atheletic or fast than Oklahoma, however, I can guarantee you that.
I believe a team has to match the intesity of its opponent. It's that simple.
I know BYU can do this and will do it again on November 28. So, why not against TCU?
to: you don't see utah... | 11:42 a.m. Oct. 27, 2009
ever, huh? Let's see BYU lost to TCU by 31 points, a pretty bad loss, but
wasn't it just a short while ago that utah lost to UNLV 27-0. That's
a shutout, to a 4 or 5 win team at best. I guess I wonder what your definition
of 'ever' is.
I'm not really sure though how your comment is even relevant to the story at hand.
In any case, we'll see in a few weeks how your anemic offense plays against TCU- with all of your outstanding atheletes.
Just remember, those superior athletes have split the series with BYU's slow fat boys over the current coach's tenures. Now that's embarrasing (losing to those unathletic slow boys with all the SPEED and TALENT you have).
I'm not really sure though how your comment is even relevant to the story at hand.
In any case, we'll see in a few weeks how your anemic offense plays against TCU- with all of your outstanding atheletes.
Just remember, those superior athletes have split the series with BYU's slow fat boys over the current coach's tenures. Now that's embarrasing (losing to those unathletic slow boys with all the SPEED and TALENT you have).
The real truth | 11:43 a.m. Oct. 27, 2009
I break down and read these things every once in a while, and then I am forced
to wonder why. I cannot believe there is this many ignorant, clueless, people
in the world; let alone on one chat board. Most of you guys must be loser,
wannabe's, who have never succeeded or done anything in your own miserable
pathetic lives; so you focus on tearing down those people who actually do. Get
a life, go do something useful.
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